i meant pj..not eddie... i cant comment on vedder becasue i haven't used fanclub tickets for him
believe me....i will never never win the lottery....(p.s. their is no lottery )
i have seen the world of box offices up close.....and shit gets switched around so much it would blow your mind
i don't doubt there is fishy stuff going on ... but having won the lottery - i have to say that i believe it exists ... and that typically my seats are where i would suspect them to be based on touringfans and what not ...
oh it exists..but the eligible people doesn't include everyone..therefore is it really a "lottery" ?? hmnn
i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
Dude, I'm not an idiot and I know it ain't all going to Eddie so you could've saved the condescending "jeeez and crap" y,know?.
Anyway I was comparing Eddie Vedder with Robert Plant and his band and it just doesn't add up for me. I love the band as much as the next guy and Ed Ved is the face of the band, but he's got 2 albums of solo stuff and is going to play the ukelele on like half the songs, which gets pretty old, pretty fast. As I said in another post, $95 a ticket adds up pretty quickly if you're making a night of it in NYC or a comparative place. Maybe he should bring back the tiered ticketing.
My point is this - when I can take 4 people (including myself) to see Robert Plant and it only costs aprox $75 more that 2 people to see Eddie Vedder at the same place, there's a problem. Agree or don't, I don't care. And yes I can afford it, but its not worth it to me. I'll just try to go see PJ20.
Honestly, no one should tell someone what is "worth it" to someone else or what to do with your money. You are right, if it isn't worth it to you you probably shouldn't go. Especially if you aren't going to dig his new uke stuff.
If you think the Ed tickets are expensive, wait until you get a load of a 3 night PJ experience where there are only 9,000 seats and is one of only a handful of shows they do this year. hahahahahahaha
I'll pay that if he comes here. I am not traveling to do it. No more. Ticket price is bad enough, but then factor in hotels, airfare for two, food and drink for two, etc. You are looking at $1000+ to see a show.
So, I guess that means I won't be seeing this show.
Ugh, I just looked up what I paid to see ROBERT PLANT and his band in January at the Beacon Theater in NYC (where Ed is rumored) and it was $55 a ticket before fees. FOR ROBERT PLANT! And he played 5-6 Zeppelin songs. Sorry Ed, I think I'm sitting this out. (which sucks because I missed his first go-around because I was saving to get married). But I'm not really down with the ukelele.
PS. Remember when Pearl Jam took on Ticketmaster and no other bands really backed them? R.E.M. said they would then booked their tour through Ticketbastard like a week later. Yeah that sucked that they lost.
jeeezz..
what do you THINK you should pay?
what would be fair do you think?
it doesnt all go into Ed/Pj's pocket, y'know?
Your ticket price covers the following
-venue rental (which doesn't always include that listed below)
-venue insurance (usually compulsary)
-everyone in the entire venue who's working has to be paid,(guy taking tickets, guys selling beers, merch people, cleaners, riggers&tech staff)
-the promoters have top be paid for the advertising(radio/print/internet etc)
-the ticket agencies have to be paid/take their cut
THEN!
travel&accomodation costs for those listed below including and on top of having to pay
-the road crew
-the support act
-the bands manager
-and finally the act has to be paid.
So break it down, how much do you think would be a fair price for your ticket?
You raise a good point about the high costs of touring, however, for larger acts, the ticket price is driven by demand, and not cost.
oh it exists..but the eligible people doesn't include everyone..therefore is it really a "lottery" ?? hmnn
ok ... i guess you're refering to some consipiracy ... which i have no idea exists or not ... all i know is that i've won and i'm not connected ... haha ...
Miley/Lady Gaga do not have the same lifespan as Green Day. Green Day has a long term career, so they need to worry about sustaining their fan base.
Miley/Lady Gaga aren't as concerned about the long haul.
You're not making sense. And what makes you think that you know what's inside these artists' minds?
Younger demographics have nothing to do with prices.
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i guess i understand why some EV/PJ fans are put off. but the bottom line is ... EV/PJ tickets aren't as cheap or as expensive as they could be. overall, a pretty damn good value.
Given today's music industry and the precedent that is being set by other acts in the industry you can actually look at this as a bargain.
I think you get your money's worth with PJ and Ed. Can't say the same about others. (Ex. RHCP)
That said... still expensive.
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Miley/Lady Gaga do not have the same lifespan as Green Day. Green Day has a long term career, so they need to worry about sustaining their fan base.
Miley/Lady Gaga aren't as concerned about the long haul.
You're not making sense. And what makes you think that you know what's inside these artists' minds?
Younger demographics have nothing to do with prices.
I work with artists and agents, so I do have some direct access into "artists minds".
Bands like Green Day keep their ticket prices a little lower because they pimp themselves out in so many ways other than their shows.
Yeah, I agree. That is one thing I don't like about Green Day, and I'm about as diehard as you get (sometimes it's embarrassing to admit).
Same here. I'm actually taking my nephew to see American Idiot on Broadway when Billie Joe performs as St. Jimmy. I think it is April 16th. He is 11 and has never seen Green Day or NYC. He has no idea and is going to be so surprised!!!!
We can debate this all day long. The objective fact is that PJ and EV, with similar or lower overhead (EV), charge more to play the same room than other acts that sell out that same room. No matter what the type of music or age of the performer. They dont charge $200 like Neil, and they dont charge $50 like the foos-and I believe that to be deliberate.
Id like to think its because they prefer to tour less and that they are more generous paying their employees and road crew rather than a green disease. Maybe its to funnel money to their charitable causes. We will never know the real reason. Trying to determine why they charge what they charge is a fruitless exercise.
I really do not see the big deal in these prices at all. Some of you are crying like you have to take out a second mortgage. If that’s the case then it looks like your stuck listening to live boots.
I really do not see the big deal in these prices at all. Some of you are crying like you have to take out a second mortgage. If that’s the case then it looks like your stuck listening to live boots.
I really do not see the big deal in these prices at all. Some of you are crying like you have to take out a second mortgage. If that’s the case then it looks like your stuck listening to live boots.
It's hilarious.
You righteous people are a joke.
There is a serious lack of any empathy with PJ fans.
I'm so glad you can afford the increasing prices.
But there are still so many of us who either can't afford the rising prices, or simply question why they're getting so steep. And that's right, we have that right to question it.
Does belittling others make you feel better? That's called being insecure, or a lack of self-esteem. Good luck with that.
It is very simple...if you don't like the price...don't buy a ticket to the shows...end of bitching...
Apparently everyone must forfeit their 1st Amendment rights on this board.
I may not even be going to these shows, so it doesn't much affect me, but since when are people not allowed to voice their grievances over this type of thing?
This is a discussion board.
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I really do not see the big deal in these prices at all. Some of you are crying like you have to take out a second mortgage. If that’s the case then it looks like your stuck listening to live boots.
It's hilarious.
You righteous people are a joke.
There is a serious lack of any empathy with PJ fans.
I'm so glad you can afford the increasing prices.
But there are still so many of us who either can't afford the rising prices, or simply question why they're getting so steep. And that's right, we have that right to question it.
Does belittling others make you feel better? That's called being insecure, or a lack of self-esteem. Good luck with that.
So Ed should lower his ticket price by 7 dollars because tm/ln raised their fees 7 dollars since 2009? He's charging the same base amount as he did in 2009.
I think the price is a little high, but it's not like he raised prices since last time.
I really do not see the big deal in these prices at all. Some of you are crying like you have to take out a second mortgage. If that’s the case then it looks like your stuck listening to live boots.
It's hilarious.
You righteous people are a joke.
There is a serious lack of any empathy with PJ fans.
I'm so glad you can afford the increasing prices.
But there are still so many of us who either can't afford the rising prices, or simply question why they're getting so steep. And that's right, we have that right to question it.
Does belittling others make you feel better? That's called being insecure, or a lack of self-esteem. Good luck with that.
It's the way it is. They make their money on touring. They don't(at least not recently) do huge prolonged 75 show tours anymore and to make the same amount of money they are charging more. Honestly though as far as ticket prices go they are right in the middle. They aren't the lowest and are no where near the highest. I don't see where the complaining is necessary. The price of everything goes up. I agree that it sucks that some people are feeling the pinch of the economy. If you are that tight, a concert probably shouldn't be top priority for the time being and hopefully you rebound before the next tour.
It is very simple...if you don't like the price...don't buy a ticket to the shows...end of bitching...
Apparently everyone must forfeit their 1st Amendment rights on this board.
I may not even be going to these shows, so it doesn't much affect me, but since when are people not allowed to voice their grievances over this type of thing?
This is a discussion board.
+1
I don't see a lot of bitching. People are upset that they may not be able to afford it or questioning if the price is reasonable. And for the most part its just a debate over the price of the tickets. With a few tangents thrown in.
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oh it exists..but the eligible people doesn't include everyone..therefore is it really a "lottery" ?? hmnn
Honestly, no one should tell someone what is "worth it" to someone else or what to do with your money. You are right, if it isn't worth it to you you probably shouldn't go. Especially if you aren't going to dig his new uke stuff.
If you think the Ed tickets are expensive, wait until you get a load of a 3 night PJ experience where there are only 9,000 seats and is one of only a handful of shows they do this year. hahahahahahaha
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Their tickets are cheaper because their fans are a younger demographic with less ability to pay.
A band like PJ has a much older demographic possessing higher buying power on average.
So, I guess that means I won't be seeing this show.
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That's simply not true, or Lady Gaga and Miley Cirus would be cheap.
You raise a good point about the high costs of touring, however, for larger acts, the ticket price is driven by demand, and not cost.
Their tickets are lower because they go on REAL tours, not dinky little 12 show tours like PJ.[/quote]
Their tickets are cheaper because their fans are a younger demographic with less ability to pay.
A band like PJ has a much older demographic possessing higher buying power on average.[/quote]
That's simply not true, or Lady Gaga and Miley Cirus would be cheap.[/quote]
Miley Cirus and Lady Gaga are pop acts who always charge more money because their iron cools down much quicker then an established act.
Their tickets are lower because they go on REAL tours, not dinky little 12 show tours like PJ.[/quote]
Their tickets are cheaper because their fans are a younger demographic with less ability to pay.
A band like PJ has a much older demographic possessing higher buying power on average.[/quote]
That's simply not true, or Lady Gaga and Miley Cirus would be cheap.[/quote]
Miley Cirus and Lady Gaga are pop acts who always charge more money.[/quote]
Younger demographic... your words...
ok ... i guess you're refering to some consipiracy ... which i have no idea exists or not ... all i know is that i've won and i'm not connected ... haha ...
Miley/Lady Gaga aren't as concerned about the long haul.
Younger demographics have nothing to do with prices.
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Given today's music industry and the precedent that is being set by other acts in the industry you can actually look at this as a bargain.
I think you get your money's worth with PJ and Ed. Can't say the same about others. (Ex. RHCP)
That said... still expensive.
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Buffalo 2013
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I work with artists and agents, so I do have some direct access into "artists minds".
Yeah, I agree. That is one thing I don't like about Green Day, and I'm about as diehard as you get (sometimes it's embarrassing to admit).
Get back in your shed, or I'm gonna get Lahey after ya!
Same here. I'm actually taking my nephew to see American Idiot on Broadway when Billie Joe performs as St. Jimmy. I think it is April 16th. He is 11 and has never seen Green Day or NYC. He has no idea and is going to be so surprised!!!!
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Id like to think its because they prefer to tour less and that they are more generous paying their employees and road crew rather than a green disease. Maybe its to funnel money to their charitable causes. We will never know the real reason. Trying to determine why they charge what they charge is a fruitless exercise.
Although quite entertaining.
It's hilarious.
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Amen.
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There is a serious lack of any empathy with PJ fans.
I'm so glad you can afford the increasing prices.
But there are still so many of us who either can't afford the rising prices, or simply question why they're getting so steep. And that's right, we have that right to question it.
Does belittling others make you feel better? That's called being insecure, or a lack of self-esteem. Good luck with that.
Apparently everyone must forfeit their 1st Amendment rights on this board.
I may not even be going to these shows, so it doesn't much affect me, but since when are people not allowed to voice their grievances over this type of thing?
This is a discussion board.
So Ed should lower his ticket price by 7 dollars because tm/ln raised their fees 7 dollars since 2009? He's charging the same base amount as he did in 2009.
I think the price is a little high, but it's not like he raised prices since last time.
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
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- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
It's the way it is. They make their money on touring. They don't(at least not recently) do huge prolonged 75 show tours anymore and to make the same amount of money they are charging more. Honestly though as far as ticket prices go they are right in the middle. They aren't the lowest and are no where near the highest. I don't see where the complaining is necessary. The price of everything goes up. I agree that it sucks that some people are feeling the pinch of the economy. If you are that tight, a concert probably shouldn't be top priority for the time being and hopefully you rebound before the next tour.
I can't blame the band for the economy.
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I don't see a lot of bitching. People are upset that they may not be able to afford it or questioning if the price is reasonable. And for the most part its just a debate over the price of the tickets. With a few tangents thrown in.
Now, I am not comparing the two because Chris can't get $78 a ticket. But he manages to live and pay his people on $12 a ticket. Just sayin.
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HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14