Recently on Howard Stern, they referenced something about keeping ticket prices low for some event, and referred to Pearl Jam as doing that. They still have that reputation in the media. So, there's where the argument comes from, band who used to keep ticket prices low and was fan friendly seems to be cashing in.
I didn't go to the last Eddie tour, may or may not go to this one, but surely not spending tons of cash on box sets, socks, trapper keepers or whatever's next.
What would a young Eddie think of high prices or a uke album? No idea, I don't know him personally. But I would take an educated guess that neither of those Ed's would say "If you can't afford the prices, stop bitching and don't buy tickets." If he did, you can be sure not to see me at any shows.
so are these people that are complaining about the prices actually going to see ed play? or are they abstaining owing to price and/or moral grounds?
that'd be an interesting poll..
Did you read the posts?
Many people have said that they dont mind paying to see Ed at this price, including myself. Just that it is expensive to do so. There are a few that cant afford it and at least one that is giving it a second thought given the prices.
Exactly. I honestly was looking forward to going until I saw this thread, I didn't know the price. And I defended the band about ticket prices a year ago. I agreed that $100+ was easily worth a PJ concert. But at the same time, I think $95 for Eddie Vedder solo for one ticket is shocking and although I love PJ, I have every right to say that.
On some other thread somewhere, somebody said "what would 28 year old Eddie say to the one who's putting out a uke album?" and someone responded he'd punch him in the face. How would he feel about $95 tickets? I think he'd throw up and I'm starting to agree. I get inflation, things change and all that stuff, but this is shocking to me.
Yep, pretty much. It's not really about "bitching," either. I'm so tired of hearing that word. And it doesn't matter in the end if we're going to buy tickets or not. It doesn't erase the fact that some of us (and yes, it's only a matter of opinion) believe them to be overpriced.
Same here. I'm actually taking my nephew to see American Idiot on Broadway when Billie Joe performs as St. Jimmy. I think it is April 16th. He is 11 and has never seen Green Day or NYC. He has no idea and is going to be so surprised!!!!
That's awesome, man! I actually contemplated going myself but musicals really aren't my thing. Your nephew should have fun though!
so are these people that are complaining about the prices actually going to see ed play? or are they abstaining owing to price and/or moral grounds?
that'd be an interesting poll..
Did you read the posts?
Many people have said that they dont mind paying to see Ed at this price, including myself. Just that it is expensive to do so. There are a few that cant afford it and at least one that is giving it a second thought given the prices.
so really all you guys are doing is whining for the sake of it?
seriously. grow up.
are you earning the same money as you were when Pj made that stand about ticket prices? more?
Are your gas and travel expenses the same as they are back then? no? really??
So what if the tix were 65 bucks? Wow, you'd save 30$. Even at 4 shows, that's only 120$ savings. 120$ doesn't even buy a half a cart of groceries.
Get over it you cheap bastards.
Oh and I am far from wealthy. But I have my priorities. And since I realize that I will be spending lots on PJ later this summer, I have not been going out at all. Just work and March Madness.
It's $109 Australian dollars a ticket for his current tour and I would've paid more.
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For me, $100 a ticket is well worth it and I'm happy to pay it. Seriously, I get a chance to go to maybe 1 show a year to see my absolute 100% favorite band, and $100 is not a lot of money. We're talking once a year.
I look at the rising prices like this. Costs are just going up. They don't sell a bunch of physical CD's. Monkeywrench records is their own right? As in they are responsible for the overhead? They're not just getting studio time leased by Sony.
Also, It costs a lot of money to travel with that full crew and pay all those expenses. I also firmly believe that PJ takes really good care of their crew. Those guys have been with PJ for a long time and have families at home - there is no doubt in my mind PJ is taking care of them.
But really, it is a result of higher commodity prices, supply/demand, higher venue fees, higher ticketing fees, less income generated from other arms of their business (CD's). PJ tickets are inelastic when talking about demand, i.e. an increase in price does not cause a larger decrease in demand. If prices go up, they will continue to sell out pretty much every venue. You can bet they have people involved with revenue management who are looking for that supply/demand equilibrium.
Long winded, but I just look at the rising prices as a sign of the times. Everything is more expensive. Touring is how they really earn their living. And it is how they make sure all their employees make a good living. Those employees deserve steady pay grade increases just as we do. Couple that with the fact that they play less shows with fixed costs remaining the same, it is important to maintain higher margins.
I would pay $100+ for tickets...the added expense won't break me....but to look at this objectively...
....if my salary increases outpaced inflation or CPI by like 35-45% over the last 7 years, I'd be a pretty f'n happy camper. There's no way the cost of touring has gone up even close to that much, relative to those measures. Takin a bigger cut, and pricing himself/themselves to the market for sure....But, but....I thought you guys were DIFFERENT! lol
What would a young Eddie think of high prices or a uke album? No idea, I don't know him personally. But I would take an educated guess that neither of those Ed's would say "If you can't afford the prices, stop bitching and don't buy tickets." If he did, you can be sure not to see me at any shows.
What would a young Eddie think of high prices or a uke album? No idea, I don't know him personally. But I would take an educated guess that neither of those Ed's would say "If you can't afford the prices, stop bitching and don't buy tickets." If he did, you can be sure not to see me at any shows.
Now that is a good point!
Well since he was a huge clash fan and that Joe Strummer wrote most of his songs on a uke, I'd say he'd be in favor of a uke album. If I felt the same way about things as I did when I was 16, I'd be pretty disappointed with myself.
i saw gavin rossdale for $40 a few years ago. i know he's no eddie vedder but gesh.
He only had to pay you 40 bucks?
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What would a young Eddie think of high prices or a uke album? No idea, I don't know him personally. But I would take an educated guess that neither of those Ed's would say "If you can't afford the prices, stop bitching and don't buy tickets." If he did, you can be sure not to see me at any shows.
Now that is a good point!
Young Eddie was so concerned with what Kurt and Fugazi thought that he would have probably scoffed at the idea of high ticket prices and a uke album. And if he did say something about stop bitching about not being able to afford the prices back in 1994, I probably would have stopped my Pearl Jam cassette tape purchasing at Vs. which would have sucked because I listened to Vitalogy on the bus daily
What would a young Eddie think of high prices or a uke album? No idea, I don't know him personally. But I would take an educated guess that neither of those Ed's would say "If you can't afford the prices, stop bitching and don't buy tickets." If he did, you can be sure not to see me at any shows.
Now that is a good point!
Young Eddie was so concerned with what Kurt and Fugazi thought that he would have probably scoffed at the idea of high ticket prices and a uke album. And if he did say something about stop bitching about not being able to afford the prices back in 1994, I probably would have stopped my Pearl Jam cassette tape purchasing at Vs. which would have sucked because I listened to Vitalogy on the bus daily
He loved Joe Strummer as well and he wrote almost everything on a uke. I'm sure he never frowned upon a ukulele.
Pearl Jam have middle of the road ticket prices for big acts. not high to extreme ticket prices.
The thing is while i can find some good reason that Pearl Jam would charge twice more than other well known bands for the same venue (more security, more gear, more engineers (and maybe paid more than other bands would), more techs...), there is absolutely nothing to explain 100 buck for eddie and his uke man! Such a tour doesn't cost much and well yeah is awesome yeah he's a star yeah i would pay 150 to see him but well J. Casablancas played in my town for 30 bucks! Of course i don't compare him to Eddie but he's as least as popular as Edd. right now. This feels f.. disappointing!
The thing is while i can find some good reason that Pearl Jam would charge twice more than other well known bands for the same venue (more security, more gear, more engineers (and maybe paid more than other bands would), more techs...), there is absolutely nothing to explain 100 buck for eddie and his uke man! Such a tour doesn't cost much and well yeah is awesome yeah he's a star yeah i would pay 150 to see him but well J. Casablancas played in my town for 30 bucks! Of course i don't compare him to Eddie but he's as least as popular as Edd. right now. This feels f.. disappointing!
To be fair, tm/ln nation fees are 21% of the cost of the base price of the ticket. That shouldn't be ignored.
He loved Joe Strummer as well and he wrote almost everything on a uke. I'm sure he never frowned upon a ukulele.
Pearl Jam have middle of the road ticket prices for big acts. not high to extreme ticket prices.
This Strummer fact is news to me. Not denying it, not does it even matter, but I have never read about him writing all of the Clash songs on a uke but you do have the definitive answer to every question in the universe so I won't doubt it.
Based on the fact presented in this thread and many others, $94 for Ed solo is extreme. I work with 2 huge fans of Pearl Jam. One in the Ten Club who never posts here and the other who works at a local radio station part time but not in the 10 Club. Both went to multiple Spectrum shows and almost all area shows whenever the band tours. When I told them Ed tickets were $94....one said "Are you kidding me? Fuck that" and the other said, after seeing the Ausie setlists, "For the same show as 2 years ago? I'm out". My girlfriend, who is a fan but not to my level...she O-faced in astonishment.
3 fans outside of this board lacking the emotional attachment all agree it is a bit out of hand. No equipment to lug, no band to pay, an amplifier, and a small crew. It's too much.
The thing is while i can find some good reason that Pearl Jam would charge twice more than other well known bands for the same venue (more security, more gear, more engineers (and maybe paid more than other bands would), more techs...), there is absolutely nothing to explain 100 buck for eddie and his uke man! Such a tour doesn't cost much and well yeah is awesome yeah he's a star yeah i would pay 150 to see him but well J. Casablancas played in my town for 30 bucks! Of course i don't compare him to Eddie but he's as least as popular as Edd. right now. This feels f.. disappointing!
He is also playing in front of only 3,500 people and not close to 30,000+. A lot less money made as well.
They are fast approaching a time when they won't be selling out East and West coast shows if prices continue to rise. I don't really care that Ed is still charing what he did 2 years ago. It was too expensive IMO 2 years ago as well.
This is it - it's supply and demand. There is a fine line in ticket pricing - finding the actual value of a ticket is tough. Price far too low, scalpers have a field day. Too high, you don't sell enough. The New Yorker had a great piece on Bruce keeping prices really low a few years ago. The end result: scalpers got a hold of a lot and fans ended up paying a lot more than face (or the actual value of the ticket) and, this excess went to the scum rather than the artist.
I'd much rather pay knowing my money is going to the artist and their crew than some ass scalping.
If you want to eliminate scalpers, just use the system NIN and Thom Yorke use with paperless. It's nice to hide behind that excuse but they really can't anymore. And if that were the case, the Ten Club tickets would be cheaper since they can't be scalped.
While I understand that Ed has to pay his crew/the venue/other fees, and some of it goes to LiveNation/TM, $94 does seem a bit high. Guess I'm nostalgic for the old days.
I recently saw Flogging Molly and was astonished at the prices - only $35 to get in (with fees) and only $15-20 for T-shirts at the show. Granted, they're not as huge a band as PJ, but it really made me wake up to how high PJ's concert prices have gotten.
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This Strummer fact is news to me. Not denying it, not does it even matter, but I have never read about him writing all of the Clash songs on a uke but you do have the definitive answer to every question in the universe so I won't doubt it.
Based on the fact presented in this thread and many others, $94 for Ed solo is extreme. I work with 2 huge fans of Pearl Jam. One in the Ten Club who never posts here and the other who works at a local radio station part time but not in the 10 Club. Both went to multiple Spectrum shows and almost all area shows whenever the band tours. When I told them Ed tickets were $94....one said "Are you kidding me? Fuck that" and the other said, after seeing the Ausie setlists, "For the same show as 2 years ago? I'm out". My girlfriend, who is a fan but not to my level...she O-faced in astonishment.
3 fans outside of this board lacking the emotional attachment all agree it is a bit out of hand. No equipment to lug, no band to pay, an amplifier, and a small crew. It's too much.
The New Yorker had a great piece on Bruce keeping prices really low a few years ago. The end result: scalpers got a hold of a lot and fans ended up paying a lot more than face (or the actual value of the ticket) and, this excess went to the scum rather than the artist.
I'd much rather pay knowing my money is going to the artist and their crew than some ass scalping.
That is an interesting and probably very valid point not yet considered. It was in the August 10, 2009 edition, but its a pay to play site. I would have to agree with you, and it changes my perspective a bit. Although it sucks that the existence of a pervasive secondary market is in part, making my EV/PJ habit more expensive, and it sucks that this strategy puts more money in LN's pocket as well.
I dont have excess money, but I have no problem paying 95 bucks for a few hours of Eddie solo.
Come on seriously.. break this down:
-One of the best lyricists and front man of our time, for about 45 bucks an hour.
Its been said before.. if Eddie solo tix were like 50 bucks, it would be damn near impossible to get tix, especially because of the smaller venues. Then you'd just be bitching you couldnt get tickets.
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i saw gavin rossdale for $40 a few years ago. i know he's no eddie vedder but gesh.
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I didn't go to the last Eddie tour, may or may not go to this one, but surely not spending tons of cash on box sets, socks, trapper keepers or whatever's next.
What would a young Eddie think of high prices or a uke album? No idea, I don't know him personally. But I would take an educated guess that neither of those Ed's would say "If you can't afford the prices, stop bitching and don't buy tickets." If he did, you can be sure not to see me at any shows.
that'd be an interesting poll..
Many people have said that they dont mind paying to see Ed at this price, including myself. Just that it is expensive to do so. There are a few that cant afford it and at least one that is giving it a second thought given the prices.
Yep, pretty much. It's not really about "bitching," either. I'm so tired of hearing that word. And it doesn't matter in the end if we're going to buy tickets or not. It doesn't erase the fact that some of us (and yes, it's only a matter of opinion) believe them to be overpriced.
That's awesome, man! I actually contemplated going myself but musicals really aren't my thing. Your nephew should have fun though!
so really all you guys are doing is whining for the sake of it?
seriously. grow up.
are you earning the same money as you were when Pj made that stand about ticket prices? more?
Are your gas and travel expenses the same as they are back then? no? really??
in that case...
Well put
Spend less on junk food, cigarettes, booze etc and you'll be fine.
I look at the rising prices like this. Costs are just going up. They don't sell a bunch of physical CD's. Monkeywrench records is their own right? As in they are responsible for the overhead? They're not just getting studio time leased by Sony.
Also, It costs a lot of money to travel with that full crew and pay all those expenses. I also firmly believe that PJ takes really good care of their crew. Those guys have been with PJ for a long time and have families at home - there is no doubt in my mind PJ is taking care of them.
But really, it is a result of higher commodity prices, supply/demand, higher venue fees, higher ticketing fees, less income generated from other arms of their business (CD's). PJ tickets are inelastic when talking about demand, i.e. an increase in price does not cause a larger decrease in demand. If prices go up, they will continue to sell out pretty much every venue. You can bet they have people involved with revenue management who are looking for that supply/demand equilibrium.
Long winded, but I just look at the rising prices as a sign of the times. Everything is more expensive. Touring is how they really earn their living. And it is how they make sure all their employees make a good living. Those employees deserve steady pay grade increases just as we do. Couple that with the fact that they play less shows with fixed costs remaining the same, it is important to maintain higher margins.
....if my salary increases outpaced inflation or CPI by like 35-45% over the last 7 years, I'd be a pretty f'n happy camper. There's no way the cost of touring has gone up even close to that much, relative to those measures. Takin a bigger cut, and pricing himself/themselves to the market for sure....But, but....I thought you guys were DIFFERENT!
Led Zeppelin charged 4 bucks back in 1970! How dare you jerome turner? That´s it! Forget it, I am quitting the TC!
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What I would do to make eddie come to Guatemala to put on a show for that price.........94.50, that is.
Well since he was a huge clash fan and that Joe Strummer wrote most of his songs on a uke, I'd say he'd be in favor of a uke album. If I felt the same way about things as I did when I was 16, I'd be pretty disappointed with myself.
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He only had to pay you 40 bucks?
Young Eddie was so concerned with what Kurt and Fugazi thought that he would have probably scoffed at the idea of high ticket prices and a uke album. And if he did say something about stop bitching about not being able to afford the prices back in 1994, I probably would have stopped my Pearl Jam cassette tape purchasing at Vs. which would have sucked because I listened to Vitalogy on the bus daily
He loved Joe Strummer as well and he wrote almost everything on a uke. I'm sure he never frowned upon a ukulele.
Pearl Jam have middle of the road ticket prices for big acts. not high to extreme ticket prices.
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Charlie Sheen is charging $45, and he has a drug habit to support, and over 100k a month in child support, Ed has gone insane
To be fair, tm/ln nation fees are 21% of the cost of the base price of the ticket. That shouldn't be ignored.
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This Strummer fact is news to me. Not denying it, not does it even matter, but I have never read about him writing all of the Clash songs on a uke but you do have the definitive answer to every question in the universe so I won't doubt it.
Based on the fact presented in this thread and many others, $94 for Ed solo is extreme. I work with 2 huge fans of Pearl Jam. One in the Ten Club who never posts here and the other who works at a local radio station part time but not in the 10 Club. Both went to multiple Spectrum shows and almost all area shows whenever the band tours. When I told them Ed tickets were $94....one said "Are you kidding me? Fuck that" and the other said, after seeing the Ausie setlists, "For the same show as 2 years ago? I'm out". My girlfriend, who is a fan but not to my level...she O-faced in astonishment.
3 fans outside of this board lacking the emotional attachment all agree it is a bit out of hand. No equipment to lug, no band to pay, an amplifier, and a small crew. It's too much.
He is also playing in front of only 3,500 people and not close to 30,000+. A lot less money made as well.
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This is it - it's supply and demand. There is a fine line in ticket pricing - finding the actual value of a ticket is tough. Price far too low, scalpers have a field day. Too high, you don't sell enough. The New Yorker had a great piece on Bruce keeping prices really low a few years ago. The end result: scalpers got a hold of a lot and fans ended up paying a lot more than face (or the actual value of the ticket) and, this excess went to the scum rather than the artist.
I'd much rather pay knowing my money is going to the artist and their crew than some ass scalping.
I recently saw Flogging Molly and was astonished at the prices - only $35 to get in (with fees) and only $15-20 for T-shirts at the show. Granted, they're not as huge a band as PJ, but it really made me wake up to how high PJ's concert prices have gotten.
Here is an excellent pic of Joe:
http://angiepizza.tumblr.com/post/3591715421
I didn't say he wrote every Clash song on a uke. But from what I remember reading he wrote quite a bit.
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Come on seriously.. break this down:
-One of the best lyricists and front man of our time, for about 45 bucks an hour.
Its been said before.. if Eddie solo tix were like 50 bucks, it would be damn near impossible to get tix, especially because of the smaller venues. Then you'd just be bitching you couldnt get tickets.
you either think he's worth $95 with fees included or you don't ... everyone has their own value scale ...