But its a big bold and free world. people really dont have to go. I bet these dates sell out quickly....so its probably on the concept of market demand setting prices way too cheap. as i know for one, I would pay a lot to see Eddie solo. That would be one of the finest nights out i could wish for. $94? a bargain
I do understand what you are saying here, but when I hear people say things like "If you don't like the price then don't buy it", I just stop and think - when has PJ ever supported this mentality?
Maybe they have lost some of their fire to fight against rising prices, but as an artist I would fight to make sure that remains a top priority throughout my career.
But its a big bold and free world. people really dont have to go. I bet these dates sell out quickly....so its probably on the concept of market demand setting prices way too cheap. as i know for one, I would pay a lot to see Eddie solo. That would be one of the finest nights out i could wish for. $94? a bargain
I do understand what you are saying here, but when I hear people say things like "If you don't like the price then don't buy it", I just stop and think - when has PJ ever supported this mentality?
Maybe they have lost some of their fire to fight against rising prices, but as an artist I would fight to make sure that remains a top priority throughout my career.
they don't pimp themselves out like Green Day and the Foo Fighters. They make their money on touring.
Are you mad at PJ for raising the cost of their shows from $45 to almost $90 over a 7 year span? Why would I care if Ticketmasters fees went up $5?
They are fast approaching a time when they won't be selling out East and West coast shows if prices continue to rise. I don't really care that Ed is still charing what he did 2 years ago. It was too expensive IMO 2 years ago as well.
You could argue they are already at that point. Seems to me tickets could be had pretty easily on the last couple of PJ mini-tours, except NY and Boston maybe.
With the high prices, the band is leaving out the fans who can't afford to see them, which is in complete contradiction of "caring about the fans", which PJ is known for. I know I can't afford those prices, and they're only getting higher...
Wait until you see the PJ20 festival prices. Hahahahahahaha
I'm scared....bets?
$225(after charges) per pair, per night for 3 nights($675) for the seated area(10 Club seats). Cheaper for a lawn package.
I don't think it will be that expensive. I thought the same when DMB announced they were having a festival and it only came out to 227.00 total for all 3 days and DMB is headlining all 3 nights. I think it will be closer to 270 for all 3 nights if it is 3 nights or 175 for a 2 night show
I do understand what you are saying here, but when I hear people say things like "If you don't like the price then don't buy it", I just stop and think - when has PJ ever supported this mentality?
Maybe they have lost some of their fire to fight against rising prices, but as an artist I would fight to make sure that remains a top priority throughout my career.
Piracy changed all that......IMHO, which why I am sympathetic to popular artists like PJ. They make millions less every year because of piracy. That and TM/LN's control over 90% of the music venues in the country.
But even so, there are artists that manage to play the same rooms and charge less. Its a fact.
I do understand what you are saying here, but when I hear people say things like "If you don't like the price then don't buy it", I just stop and think - when has PJ ever supported this mentality?
Maybe they have lost some of their fire to fight against rising prices, but as an artist I would fight to make sure that remains a top priority throughout my career.
Piracy changed all that......IMHO, which why I am sympathetic to popular artists like PJ. They make millions less every year because of piracy. That and TM/LN's control over 90% of the music venues in the country. But even so, there are artists that manage to play the same rooms and charge less. Its a fact.[/quote]
And there are artists who charge 3-10x more then what EV or PJ charges. I'm not just talking about older bands. How much do you think parents have to shell out to take there kids to see Miley Cyrus or Katy Perry, etc?
Are you mad at PJ for raising the cost of their shows from $45 to almost $90 over a 7 year span? Why would I care if Ticketmasters fees went up $5?
Yes I am. They have raised their prices at a much higher and faster than their contemporaries. They won't play the south because they can't fill arenas charging their high asking price. As others have said...Green day, Foo Fighters,Muse, Radiohead....all PJ's contemporaries....have kept their prices affordable. Tom Petty, Neil Young, the Stones are not contemporaries.
They are fast approaching a time when they won't be selling out East and West coast shows if prices continue to rise. I don't really care that Ed is still charing what he did 2 years ago. It was too expensive IMO 2 years ago as well.
Oh come on, $94 these days to see a rock legend in an intimate venue? how much is a lap dance these days? and how much is a broadway shows? both existing comparable of entertainment.
As for those bands, Neil Young is definitely a contemporary. Or are you saying because Neil has been around longer he can charge more? or because he has a bigger fanbase that means his tickets should be more (id argue the fanbase thing too), or that its ok for U2 to charge $150 or £130 for front section standing...because they are huge? I dont understand that logic.
with increased fame you get the right to charge more?
Pj are not affordable? really? you dont feel they give value for money? dont go. Simple. yes it really is.
Whats more, People will go and see Pj every night and see a totally different show, i dont think that is true of one of the so called contemparies you list above.
i cant help but think you are one of those people who whinge and whine about every little detail here, and then are first in line for tickets on their announcement. maybe im wrong, but these people do exist.
Lets not forget PJ are a band who will go that extra mile to make their concerts that little bit more friendly on the environment, that little bit more eco friendly, they look after their crew extremely well, they give a shit, and im afraid all that costs money.
Its very easy to wander on here and say 'pj are overcharging'..
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I don't think it will be that expensive. I thought the same when DMB announced they were having a festival and it only came out to 227.00 total for all 3 days and DMB is headlining all 3 nights. I think it will be closer to 270 for all 3 nights if it is 3 nights or 175 for a 2 night show
You are aware that one night of Pearl Jam was $173(per pair) last year right? So you think they are going to lower their ticket prices by $11 per night for this event. Get real buddy. You may be able to get lawn seats for that price though.
Piracy changed all that......IMHO, which why I am sympathetic to popular artists like PJ. They make millions less every year because of piracy. That and TM/LN's control over 90% of the music venues in the country.
But even so, there are artists that manage to play the same rooms and charge less. Its a fact.
I think for some artists it did, and to an extent Pearl Jam, but they haven't had a commercially successful album in years. Their radio singles usually get play here in Philly for 3-4 weeks then fall off the map....World Wide Suicide, Save You, Fixer, Nothing as it Seems, Amongst the Waves, etc. Just Breathe hung around for a little longer but I haven't heard Fixer in months. If they were putting out smash singles and sales were down then I would admit piracy has hurt them but what hurt their album sales the most was when they more or less sabotaged/pulled back their popularity with No Code. Many people have no idea they even still put out albums and tour. In order to compensate for that, they have been putting their music in movies and tv shows. That is where the money is at these days.
Even if it was piracy, their peers have managed to keep prices down. It all comes down to how rich the band feels they need to be. Obviously that is totally up to them and none of my business but they are probably making more a year through touring and merch than most of us will see in our lifetime. Hell they probably make more in merch per show than some people here make in a year.
And there are artists who charge 3-10x more then what EV or PJ charges. I'm not just talking about older bands. How much do you think parents have to shell out to take there kids to see Miley Cyrus or Katy Perry, etc?
or lady gaga?
Which just goes back to what I said in the first place about finding that precise price point. PJ and EV could charge $65 a ticket and still make a LOT of money.
And one more time for the record, I personally have no problem paying what EV and PJ charge. I have had more expensive meals that didnt last as long were nowhere near as satisfying.
They are fast approaching a time when they won't be selling out East and West coast shows if prices continue to rise. I don't really care that Ed is still charing what he did 2 years ago. It was too expensive IMO 2 years ago as well.
And if that happens, prices will come down or they'll play smaller rooms. That's how that works.
I'd pay up to $250AU per single ticket without thinking twice to see Ed and/or PJ live.
Ed is a f@#$ing STAR.. and so are the rest of the boys for that matter!!
I think the tix for the current ED in Aus tour were about $240AU+ for a pair after conversion. I bought tix to three shows, would have got more if my credit card had a bigger limit, by the time i recharged all the 10C tix were gone
If you want something bad enough you will pay the asking price, if you can not afford it, thats a shame .. tis why i always have money saved and credit card charged, never know when you are going to want/need it most. I consider a tour announcement as one of those "need" it most moments, LOL!!!
I saw tix for Snoop and Nelly on sale lastnight, was thinking of getting tix for my brothers b'day present.. $240 a ticket!!!! Hmmm, I luv ya guts bro, but its your 17th birthday not your 18th or 21st and im just not that much of a fan... Justin Bieber is only $135.. you wanna go see him instead?? LOL!!!!!
They are fast approaching a time when they won't be selling out East and West coast shows if prices continue to rise. I don't really care that Ed is still charing what he did 2 years ago. It was too expensive IMO 2 years ago as well.
And if that happens, prices will come down or they'll play smaller rooms. That's how that works.
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
But its a big bold and free world. people really dont have to go. I bet these dates sell out quickly....so its probably on the concept of market demand setting prices way too cheap. as i know for one, I would pay a lot to see Eddie solo. That would be one of the finest nights out i could wish for. $94? a bargain
I do understand what you are saying here, but when I hear people say things like "If you don't like the price then don't buy it", I just stop and think - when has PJ ever supported this mentality?
Maybe they have lost some of their fire to fight against rising prices, but as an artist I would fight to make sure that remains a top priority throughout my career.
they don't pimp themselves out like Green Day and the Foo Fighters. They make their money on touring.
I don't think it will be that expensive. I thought the same when DMB announced they were having a festival and it only came out to 227.00 total for all 3 days and DMB is headlining all 3 nights. I think it will be closer to 270 for all 3 nights if it is 3 nights or 175 for a 2 night show
You are aware that one night of Pearl Jam was $173(per pair) last year right? So you think they are going to lower their ticket prices by $11 per night for this event. Get real buddy. You may be able to get lawn seats for that price though.
Yup I am well aware. Like I said, DMB charges basically the same price but yet found a way to lower ticket prices for the festival so it can happen. Will it for sure happen? Nobody knows as of right now.
I think for some artists it did, and to an extent Pearl Jam, but they haven't had a commercially successful album in years.
Even if it was piracy, their peers have managed to keep prices down. It all comes down to how rich the band feels they need to be. Obviously that is totally up to them and none of my business but they are probably making more a year through touring and merch than most of us will see in our lifetime. Hell they probably make more in merch per show than some people here make in a year.
Unfortunately, it is impossible to gauge how many records they might have sold without piracy. And they dont really have any peers that survived from the 90s. Sure less than ten and vs., but maybe more than yield and binaural. Same with the bootlegs there is simply no measuring stick for that stuff. And the band has enjoyed a bit of a resurgence in popularity during the past four years. Millions of dollars lost-no doubt in my mind. And I am agreeing with you, they could charge $65 a ticket and still make a LOT of money. But charging a bit more allows them to tour less, which clearly seem to be their preference these days. It is what it is.
Oh come on, $94 these days to see a rock legend in an intimate venue? how much is a lap dance these days? and how much is a broadway shows? both existing comparable of entertainment.
As for those bands, Neil Young is definitely a contemporary. Or are you saying because Neil has been around longer he can charge more? or because he has a bigger fanbase that means his tickets should be more (id argue the fanbase thing too), or that its ok for U2 to charge $150 or £130 for front section standing...because they are huge? I dont understand that logic. Neil has been around much much longer and a majority of his fans are probably in their 50's with money to burn. I personally don't put him in the same genre as PJ but it's just my opinion. U2 charge $50 for GA standing right in front of the stage. Their best tickets are $50. People think it's awesome PJ charge the same for front row that they do for nose bleeds but they are making just as much money with a flat price. It evens out when you overcharge for shit seats and undercharge for front row.
with increased fame you get the right to charge more? Absolutely. And they certainly do take advantage of that right
Pj are not affordable? really? you dont feel they give value for money? dont go. Simple. yes it really is. They were affordable. I could still afford them but at the current pricing, I will be thinking long and hard about going next time they come around. I am skipping the solo shows this time around. I can also safely say that the casual fans who go to their arena shows will not be spending $100 for tickets. They won't sell out shows at that price. And I respect you as a poster and your opinions so please don't stoop to the don't like it, don't go mentality.
Whats more, People will go and see Pj every night and see a totally different show, i dont think that is true of one of the so called contemparies you list above. Some play different setlists. Some play the same thing but what does it matter if you only see one show like most people outside of this board do? I don't think they sit around and set their prices based on varying setlists but what do I know
i cant help but think you are one of those people who whinge and whine about every little detail here, and then are first in line for tickets on their announcement. maybe im wrong, but these people do exist. Incorrect. As I said above I am to the point where I am fed up with them and their prices and will think long and hard before seeing them next time they come to Philly
Lets not forget PJ are a band who will go that extra mile to make their concerts that little bit more friendly on the environment, that little bit more eco friendly, they look after their crew extremely well, they give a shit, and im afraid all that costs money. And you know other bands don't do this? Radiohead comes to mind
Its very easy to wander on here and say 'pj are overcharging'.. Which is what people are doing because it's a discussion board
My U2 tixs for this July in Pitt in the club seats at Heinz Field are $250 a peice. The main thing is these bands are not getting any younger and we are going to have to pay to see them. What bands are out now that we are going to want to watch in 20 years. Or will be around. Concerts ARE where they make their money in this era.
Ed plays smaller venues but the cost of employees is not smaller.
I don't think it will be that expensive. I thought the same when DMB announced they were having a festival and it only came out to 227.00 total for all 3 days and DMB is headlining all 3 nights. I think it will be closer to 270 for all 3 nights if it is 3 nights or 175 for a 2 night show
You are aware that one night of Pearl Jam was $173(per pair) last year right? So you think they are going to lower their ticket prices by $11 per night for this event. Get real buddy. You may be able to get lawn seats for that price though.
Yup I am well aware. Like I said, DMB charges basically the same price but yet found a way to lower ticket prices for the festival so it can happen. Will it for sure happen? Nobody knows as of right now.
There will be at least twice as many people(minimum) at the DMB show because of the venue. That's why ticket prices can be kept lower.
Compared to people like Lady Gaga, Madonna, Kenny Chesney, Taylor swift, etc. Pearl Jam charges very very reasonable prices. I definitely see both sides of the argument though. I only paid $50 for a fantastic seat to see Them Crooked Vultures at Caesars Casino in Windsor. That was a hell of the deal, especially considering that I got to see John Paul Fucking Jones play bass live. Muse is usually pretty reasonable, and they have an enormous following. I paid $42 to see them a few years back.
EDIT: I do try to buy concert tickets straight from the venue whenever possible. It usually saves me about $15 a ticket in stupid fees.
I have ZERO problem paying that kind of money for Ed. I will gladly pay it multiple times over if he's coming to Canada (or at least Toronto and Montreal).
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I have ZERO problem paying that kind of money for Ed. I will gladly pay it multiple times over if he's coming to Canada (or at least Toronto and Montreal).
god bless your comfy lifestyle
i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
I have ZERO problem paying that kind of money for Ed. I will gladly pay it multiple times over if he's coming to Canada (or at least Toronto and Montreal).
god bless your comfy lifestyle
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Yeah, I'm 22. Shelling out a few hundred bucks for a concert would be highly irresponsible. I have to put gas in my car and make my student loan payments.
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I do understand what you are saying here, but when I hear people say things like "If you don't like the price then don't buy it", I just stop and think - when has PJ ever supported this mentality?
Maybe they have lost some of their fire to fight against rising prices, but as an artist I would fight to make sure that remains a top priority throughout my career.
Shit.
they don't pimp themselves out like Green Day and the Foo Fighters. They make their money on touring.
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I don't think it will be that expensive. I thought the same when DMB announced they were having a festival and it only came out to 227.00 total for all 3 days and DMB is headlining all 3 nights. I think it will be closer to 270 for all 3 nights if it is 3 nights or 175 for a 2 night show
But even so, there are artists that manage to play the same rooms and charge less. Its a fact.
Eddie and PJ are my fuel 365 days a year.
If the price of Eddie/PJ tickets have doubled during the same period, then it makes 100% sense to me.
Will be happy to see PJ in Montreal in September and in any other places my wife, kids and boss allow me to go.
Montreal 98, 00, 03, 05, 11
Toronto 03, 06, 11
Ottawa 05, 11
Quebec 05; Saratoga 00; Boston 04; Toledo 04
Albany 06; Honolulu 06; Hartford 08
Costa Rica 11
London (Ont.), Hartford 13
Quebec, Fenway 1 + 2 16; London 18
EV Montreal (2), Berkeley II, Albany, Boston, London (UK)
But even so, there are artists that manage to play the same rooms and charge less. Its a fact.[/quote]
And there are artists who charge 3-10x more then what EV or PJ charges. I'm not just talking about older bands. How much do you think parents have to shell out to take there kids to see Miley Cyrus or Katy Perry, etc?
Oh come on, $94 these days to see a rock legend in an intimate venue? how much is a lap dance these days? and how much is a broadway shows? both existing comparable of entertainment.
As for those bands, Neil Young is definitely a contemporary. Or are you saying because Neil has been around longer he can charge more? or because he has a bigger fanbase that means his tickets should be more (id argue the fanbase thing too), or that its ok for U2 to charge $150 or £130 for front section standing...because they are huge? I dont understand that logic.
with increased fame you get the right to charge more?
Pj are not affordable? really? you dont feel they give value for money? dont go. Simple. yes it really is.
Whats more, People will go and see Pj every night and see a totally different show, i dont think that is true of one of the so called contemparies you list above.
i cant help but think you are one of those people who whinge and whine about every little detail here, and then are first in line for tickets on their announcement. maybe im wrong, but these people do exist.
Lets not forget PJ are a band who will go that extra mile to make their concerts that little bit more friendly on the environment, that little bit more eco friendly, they look after their crew extremely well, they give a shit, and im afraid all that costs money.
Its very easy to wander on here and say 'pj are overcharging'..
Fortunately I can, but I do feel for those who can’t.
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You are aware that one night of Pearl Jam was $173(per pair) last year right? So you think they are going to lower their ticket prices by $11 per night for this event. Get real buddy. You may be able to get lawn seats for that price though.
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I think for some artists it did, and to an extent Pearl Jam, but they haven't had a commercially successful album in years. Their radio singles usually get play here in Philly for 3-4 weeks then fall off the map....World Wide Suicide, Save You, Fixer, Nothing as it Seems, Amongst the Waves, etc. Just Breathe hung around for a little longer but I haven't heard Fixer in months. If they were putting out smash singles and sales were down then I would admit piracy has hurt them but what hurt their album sales the most was when they more or less sabotaged/pulled back their popularity with No Code. Many people have no idea they even still put out albums and tour. In order to compensate for that, they have been putting their music in movies and tv shows. That is where the money is at these days.
Even if it was piracy, their peers have managed to keep prices down. It all comes down to how rich the band feels they need to be. Obviously that is totally up to them and none of my business but they are probably making more a year through touring and merch than most of us will see in our lifetime. Hell they probably make more in merch per show than some people here make in a year.
Which just goes back to what I said in the first place about finding that precise price point. PJ and EV could charge $65 a ticket and still make a LOT of money.
And one more time for the record, I personally have no problem paying what EV and PJ charge. I have had more expensive meals that didnt last as long were nowhere near as satisfying.
And if that happens, prices will come down or they'll play smaller rooms. That's how that works.
Ed is a f@#$ing STAR.. and so are the rest of the boys for that matter!!
I think the tix for the current ED in Aus tour were about $240AU+ for a pair after conversion. I bought tix to three shows, would have got more if my credit card had a bigger limit, by the time i recharged all the 10C tix were gone
If you want something bad enough you will pay the asking price, if you can not afford it, thats a shame
I saw tix for Snoop and Nelly on sale lastnight, was thinking of getting tix for my brothers b'day present.. $240 a ticket!!!! Hmmm, I luv ya guts bro, but its your 17th birthday not your 18th or 21st and im just not that much of a fan... Justin Bieber is only $135.. you wanna go see him instead?? LOL!!!!!
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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Yup I am well aware. Like I said, DMB charges basically the same price but yet found a way to lower ticket prices for the festival so it can happen. Will it for sure happen? Nobody knows as of right now.
Ed plays smaller venues but the cost of employees is not smaller.
There will be at least twice as many people(minimum) at the DMB show because of the venue. That's why ticket prices can be kept lower.
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EDIT: I do try to buy concert tickets straight from the venue whenever possible. It usually saves me about $15 a ticket in stupid fees.
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Yeah, I'm 22. Shelling out a few hundred bucks for a concert would be highly irresponsible. I have to put gas in my car and make my student loan payments.