Religious Beliefs

pandora

~ You should respect each other and refrain from disputes; you should not, like water and oil, repel each other, but should, like milk and water, mingle together. ~
Buddha

EmBleve

pandora wrote:

~ You should respect each other and refrain from disputes; you should not, like water and oil, repel each other, but should, like milk and water, mingle together. ~
Buddha

word.

pandora

^ ^ ^ ^ ^

I was just out driving this lovely spring day.
The wind whipping the pollen into yellow sheets mingled with pink white
and red blossoms, sending the clouds through the sky on fast forward.
Whipping my hair around making me feel free,
glad to be alive.

Everyone was busying out and about doing their thing.

My thoughts returned to this thread and the people of all religions
and no religions enjoying the day as I.

It was a wonderful thought bringing everyone together in the beauty that we have here,
just one day, one day in a lifetime.

I guess I may be idealistic but I hope to see the day where kindness rules
and we all accept each other everyday.

Unfortunately, this brought a counter thought...
I have noticed here how sometimes people are ridiculed for following a religion.
As my quote friend a few posts back seemed to jump on me if he thought I was a Christian.
If I misunderstood that I very much apologize....
I felt the intent to challenge may have been there.

I have received some emails and pms from those of faith ...
different faiths, expressing their fear and apprehension about discussing their religion.
Fear of being challenged in the most basic of their beliefs and sometimes not in a kind way.

I have also heard people here call religion a crutch.
This is a very negative way of looking at a need.
Everyone has needs .... they are not crutches,
we all need love, hope, happiness, etc.... they are not crutches.

When a person has Faith it is the highest degree of trust.... absolutely nothing of a crutch.
They have given their hearts to what they believe in.

I trust my husband and have immense faith in him. He is tangible.
I see him, know him, he has been here 32 years.

To believe in something you can not see.... only know in your heart
that is Faith.
Faith is beautiful... people of all faiths are beautiful and should never be thought of as less
because they trust in a God.

Religions of the world are blamed for things they shouldn't be.
It is the people of the religion, not the religion that goes awry ....responsible for hate,
prejudice, war and ridicule. There are misguided people in all religions and those with no religion.

So maybe there are others that would like to come and share from different religions
and no religion
those who may want to represent without fear of judgment or abashment.

The OP was interested in sharing this as many are.
I know I love hearing the history, the joys, the moments behind ones faith
It is a wonderful way to bring people together to just mingle a bit

blondieblue227

yup. i know people that need religion. i'm glad they have it. i don't think religion is all bad. some wonderful things about it: hope, love and fellowship.

pandora

blondieblue227 wrote:

yup. i know people that need religion. i'm glad they have it. i don't think religion is all bad. some wonderful things about it: hope, love and fellowship.

yea so true ... and those three things you mention what would life be without them?

You don't need religion to find them but for some that reinforces the faith they have found.

Fellowship that is not a word I hear often... I like it

lovely blondieblue ....wonderfully positive you are

blondieblue227

i try to be. but when i see something i don't like either i'm damn sure going to tell you too. and on i whole i don't like religion.

pandora

blondieblue227 wrote:

i try to be. but when i see something i don't like either i'm damn sure going to tell you too. and on i whole i don't like religion.

that is a very good thing to know your mind and heart and speak them both

maybe to embrace the person not their religion

blondieblue227

pandora wrote:

maybe to embrace the person not their religion

some people make it hard to do that. some people ARE their religion. but we've talked about that before and i don't want to repeat.

pandora

blondieblue227 wrote:

pandora wrote:

maybe to embrace the person not their religion

some people make it hard to do that. some people ARE their religion. but we've talked about that before and i don't want to repeat.

I agree we won't repeat the negatives

Black73

blondieblue227 wrote:

pandora wrote:

maybe to embrace the person not their religion

some people make it hard to do that. some people ARE their religion. but we've talked about that before and i don't want to repeat.

Can I pray for you?
:evil:

blondieblue227

i'll pray for pandora to let this go.

Black73

So happy to find such a cool group of peeps with the same sense of humor as myself. Hoping to meet you at the next organized worship: PJ20!

Eddie had a really cool take on religion during Columbus 2010 show. He said the band was going to petition to make Pearl Jam an organized religion. One rule: don't be an asshole! He also said, "No fucking twittering!"

Amen!

blondieblue227

yup. my favorite Ed quote on religion is:

I think we have to be flexible. Any belief system that is inflexible, closed off to other belief systems, is profoundly unhealthy. I also think that if you look at life as a long line of evolutionary changes that started billions of years ago, from little things crawling in the mud, and the you realize where we’ve got to now, that is a remarkable set of circumstances. There is more magic in that, for me, than someone creating the planet in six days and taking a day off. When you realize how long humanity has taken to get to this point, it makes you respect another person’s life in a deeper and broader sense. I wouldn’t think of killing anybody because their lineage goes back to the primordial seas, not because there’s some eye in the sky, looking out for how many commandments you’re going to break. --- Eddie Vedder

ShimmyMommy

blondieblue227 wrote:

yup. my favorite Ed quote on religion is:

I think we have to be flexible. Any belief system that is inflexible, closed off to other belief systems, is profoundly unhealthy. I also think that if you look at life as a long line of evolutionary changes that started billions of years ago, from little things crawling in the mud, and the you realize where we’ve got to now, that is a remarkable set of circumstances. There is more magic in that, for me, than someone creating the planet in six days and taking a day off. When you realize how long humanity has taken to get to this point, it makes you respect another person’s life in a deeper and broader sense. I wouldn’t think of killing anybody because their lineage goes back to the primordial seas, not because there’s some eye in the sky, looking out for how many commandments you’re going to break. --- Eddie Vedder

agreed

Hugh Freaking Dillon

blondieblue227 wrote:

yup. my favorite Ed quote on religion is:

I think we have to be flexible. Any belief system that is inflexible, closed off to other belief systems, is profoundly unhealthy. I also think that if you look at life as a long line of evolutionary changes that started billions of years ago, from little things crawling in the mud, and the you realize where we’ve got to now, that is a remarkable set of circumstances. There is more magic in that, for me, than someone creating the planet in six days and taking a day off. When you realize how long humanity has taken to get to this point, it makes you respect another person’s life in a deeper and broader sense. I wouldn’t think of killing anybody because their lineage goes back to the primordial seas, not because there’s some eye in the sky, looking out for how many commandments you’re going to break. --- Eddie Vedder

I don't swallow everything Ed says, but man, I had never heard/read this before, and it's exactly my line of thinking.

pandora

blondieblue227 wrote:

yup. my favorite Ed quote on religion is:

I think we have to be flexible. Any belief system that is inflexible, closed off to other belief systems, is profoundly unhealthy. I also think that if you look at life as a long line of evolutionary changes that started billions of years ago, from little things crawling in the mud, and the you realize where we’ve got to now, that is a remarkable set of circumstances. There is more magic in that, for me, than someone creating the planet in six days and taking a day off. When you realize how long humanity has taken to get to this point, it makes you respect another person’s life in a deeper and broader sense. I wouldn’t think of killing anybody because their lineage goes back to the primordial seas, not because there’s some eye in the sky, looking out for how many commandments you’re going to break. --- Eddie Vedder

blondieblue... awesome quote. I love this man's mind and heart!
that quote is a keeper for sure
Great!

blondieblue227

it definitely an eddie vedder quote i just wish i'd got the year and what magazine it was.

iluvcats

blondieblue227 wrote:

yup. my favorite Ed quote on religion is:

I think we have to be flexible. Any belief system that is inflexible, closed off to other belief systems, is profoundly unhealthy. I also think that if you look at life as a long line of evolutionary changes that started billions of years ago, from little things crawling in the mud, and the you realize where we’ve got to now, that is a remarkable set of circumstances. There is more magic in that, for me, than someone creating the planet in six days and taking a day off. When you realize how long humanity has taken to get to this point, it makes you respect another person’s life in a deeper and broader sense. I wouldn’t think of killing anybody because their lineage goes back to the primordial seas, not because there’s some eye in the sky, looking out for how many commandments you’re going to break. --- Eddie Vedder

what's the source of this?

redrock

iluvcats wrote:

blondieblue227 wrote:

yup. my favorite Ed quote on religion is:

I think we have to be flexible. Any belief system that is inflexible, closed off to other belief systems, is profoundly unhealthy. I also think that if you look at life as a long line of evolutionary changes that started billions of years ago, from little things crawling in the mud, and the you realize where we’ve got to now, that is a remarkable set of circumstances. There is more magic in that, for me, than someone creating the planet in six days and taking a day off. When you realize how long humanity has taken to get to this point, it makes you respect another person’s life in a deeper and broader sense. I wouldn’t think of killing anybody because their lineage goes back to the primordial seas, not because there’s some eye in the sky, looking out for how many commandments you’re going to break. --- Eddie Vedder

what's the source of this?

http://www.twofeetthick.com/2009/07/ed- ... questions/

iluvcats

redrock wrote:

iluvcats wrote:

blondieblue227 wrote:

yup. my favorite Ed quote on religion is:

I think we have to be flexible. Any belief system that is inflexible, closed off to other belief systems, is profoundly unhealthy. I also think that if you look at life as a long line of evolutionary changes that started billions of years ago, from little things crawling in the mud, and the you realize where we’ve got to now, that is a remarkable set of circumstances. There is more magic in that, for me, than someone creating the planet in six days and taking a day off. When you realize how long humanity has taken to get to this point, it makes you respect another person’s life in a deeper and broader sense. I wouldn’t think of killing anybody because their lineage goes back to the primordial seas, not because there’s some eye in the sky, looking out for how many commandments you’re going to break. --- Eddie Vedder

what's the source of this?

http://www.twofeetthick.com/2009/07/ed- ... questions/

Hey! I used to know that guy online for a few years, that asked the question. He disappeared. His name here was Psycosmic.