~ You should respect each other and refrain from disputes; you should not, like water and oil, repel each other, but should, like milk and water, mingle together. ~
Buddha
~ You should respect each other and refrain from disputes; you should not, like water and oil, repel each other, but should, like milk and water, mingle together. ~
Buddha
I was just out driving this lovely spring day.
The wind whipping the pollen into yellow sheets mingled with pink white
and red blossoms, sending the clouds through the sky on fast forward.
Whipping my hair around making me feel free,
glad to be alive.
Everyone was busying out and about doing their thing.
My thoughts returned to this thread and the people of all religions
and no religions enjoying the day as I.
It was a wonderful thought bringing everyone together in the beauty that we have here,
just one day, one day in a lifetime.
I guess I may be idealistic but I hope to see the day where kindness rules
and we all accept each other everyday.
Unfortunately, this brought a counter thought...
I have noticed here how sometimes people are ridiculed for following a religion.
As my quote friend a few posts back seemed to jump on me if he thought I was a Christian.
If I misunderstood that I very much apologize....
I felt the intent to challenge may have been there.
I have received some emails and pms from those of faith ...
different faiths, expressing their fear and apprehension about discussing their religion.
Fear of being challenged in the most basic of their beliefs and sometimes not in a kind way.
I have also heard people here call religion a crutch.
This is a very negative way of looking at a need.
Everyone has needs .... they are not crutches,
we all need love, hope, happiness, etc.... they are not crutches.
When a person has Faith it is the highest degree of trust.... absolutely nothing of a crutch.
They have given their hearts to what they believe in.
I trust my husband and have immense faith in him. He is tangible.
I see him, know him, he has been here 32 years.
To believe in something you can not see.... only know in your heart
that is Faith.
Faith is beautiful... people of all faiths are beautiful and should never be thought of as less
because they trust in a God.
Religions of the world are blamed for things they shouldn't be.
It is the people of the religion, not the religion that goes awry ....responsible for hate,
prejudice, war and ridicule. There are misguided people in all religions and those with no religion.
So maybe there are others that would like to come and share from different religions
and no religion
those who may want to represent without fear of judgment or abashment.
The OP was interested in sharing this as many are.
I know I love hearing the history, the joys, the moments behind ones faith
It is a wonderful way to bring people together to just mingle a bit
yup. i know people that need religion. i'm glad they have it. i don't think religion is all bad. some wonderful things about it: hope, love and fellowship.
*~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*
yup. i know people that need religion. i'm glad they have it. i don't think religion is all bad. some wonderful things about it: hope, love and fellowship.
yea so true ... and those three things you mention what would life be without them?
You don't need religion to find them but for some that reinforces the faith they have found.
Fellowship that is not a word I hear often... I like it
lovely blondieblue ....wonderfully positive you are
So happy to find such a cool group of peeps with the same sense of humor as myself. Hoping to meet you at the next organized worship: PJ20!
Eddie had a really cool take on religion during Columbus 2010 show. He said the band was going to petition to make Pearl Jam an organized religion. One rule: don't be an asshole! He also said, "No fucking twittering!"
I think we have to be flexible. Any belief system that is inflexible, closed off to other belief systems, is profoundly unhealthy. I also think that if you look at life as a long line of evolutionary changes that started billions of years ago, from little things crawling in the mud, and the you realize where we’ve got to now, that is a remarkable set of circumstances. There is more magic in that, for me, than someone creating the planet in six days and taking a day off. When you realize how long humanity has taken to get to this point, it makes you respect another person’s life in a deeper and broader sense. I wouldn’t think of killing anybody because their lineage goes back to the primordial seas, not because there’s some eye in the sky, looking out for how many commandments you’re going to break. --- Eddie Vedder
*~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*
I think we have to be flexible. Any belief system that is inflexible, closed off to other belief systems, is profoundly unhealthy. I also think that if you look at life as a long line of evolutionary changes that started billions of years ago, from little things crawling in the mud, and the you realize where we’ve got to now, that is a remarkable set of circumstances. There is more magic in that, for me, than someone creating the planet in six days and taking a day off. When you realize how long humanity has taken to get to this point, it makes you respect another person’s life in a deeper and broader sense. I wouldn’t think of killing anybody because their lineage goes back to the primordial seas, not because there’s some eye in the sky, looking out for how many commandments you’re going to break. --- Eddie Vedder
I think we have to be flexible. Any belief system that is inflexible, closed off to other belief systems, is profoundly unhealthy. I also think that if you look at life as a long line of evolutionary changes that started billions of years ago, from little things crawling in the mud, and the you realize where we’ve got to now, that is a remarkable set of circumstances. There is more magic in that, for me, than someone creating the planet in six days and taking a day off. When you realize how long humanity has taken to get to this point, it makes you respect another person’s life in a deeper and broader sense. I wouldn’t think of killing anybody because their lineage goes back to the primordial seas, not because there’s some eye in the sky, looking out for how many commandments you’re going to break. --- Eddie Vedder
I don't swallow everything Ed says, but man, I had never heard/read this before, and it's exactly my line of thinking.
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St. Paul 2014
I think we have to be flexible. Any belief system that is inflexible, closed off to other belief systems, is profoundly unhealthy. I also think that if you look at life as a long line of evolutionary changes that started billions of years ago, from little things crawling in the mud, and the you realize where we’ve got to now, that is a remarkable set of circumstances. There is more magic in that, for me, than someone creating the planet in six days and taking a day off. When you realize how long humanity has taken to get to this point, it makes you respect another person’s life in a deeper and broader sense. I wouldn’t think of killing anybody because their lineage goes back to the primordial seas, not because there’s some eye in the sky, looking out for how many commandments you’re going to break. --- Eddie Vedder
blondieblue... awesome quote. I love this man's mind and heart!
that quote is a keeper for sure
Great!
I think we have to be flexible. Any belief system that is inflexible, closed off to other belief systems, is profoundly unhealthy. I also think that if you look at life as a long line of evolutionary changes that started billions of years ago, from little things crawling in the mud, and the you realize where we’ve got to now, that is a remarkable set of circumstances. There is more magic in that, for me, than someone creating the planet in six days and taking a day off. When you realize how long humanity has taken to get to this point, it makes you respect another person’s life in a deeper and broader sense. I wouldn’t think of killing anybody because their lineage goes back to the primordial seas, not because there’s some eye in the sky, looking out for how many commandments you’re going to break. --- Eddie Vedder
what's the source of this?
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8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
I think we have to be flexible. Any belief system that is inflexible, closed off to other belief systems, is profoundly unhealthy. I also think that if you look at life as a long line of evolutionary changes that started billions of years ago, from little things crawling in the mud, and the you realize where we’ve got to now, that is a remarkable set of circumstances. There is more magic in that, for me, than someone creating the planet in six days and taking a day off. When you realize how long humanity has taken to get to this point, it makes you respect another person’s life in a deeper and broader sense. I wouldn’t think of killing anybody because their lineage goes back to the primordial seas, not because there’s some eye in the sky, looking out for how many commandments you’re going to break. --- Eddie Vedder
I think we have to be flexible. Any belief system that is inflexible, closed off to other belief systems, is profoundly unhealthy. I also think that if you look at life as a long line of evolutionary changes that started billions of years ago, from little things crawling in the mud, and the you realize where we’ve got to now, that is a remarkable set of circumstances. There is more magic in that, for me, than someone creating the planet in six days and taking a day off. When you realize how long humanity has taken to get to this point, it makes you respect another person’s life in a deeper and broader sense. I wouldn’t think of killing anybody because their lineage goes back to the primordial seas, not because there’s some eye in the sky, looking out for how many commandments you’re going to break. --- Eddie Vedder
oh yeah. i remember this interview now. ed mentions putting up a firepole and i really connected with that because it sounded something my dad would do. we had a zipline growing up.
*~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*
~ You should respect each other and refrain from disputes; you should not, like water and oil, repel each other, but should, like milk and water, mingle together. ~
Buddha
I'd like it better if it were more like warm milk and honey, loving each other with yummy warm sweetness
~ You should respect each other and refrain from disputes; you should not, like water and oil, repel each other, but should, like milk and water, mingle together. ~
Buddha
I'd like it better if it were more like warm milk and honey, loving each other with yummy warm sweetness
I like that better too ...you improved on Buddha! very nice
Not to be Gypsy-this and Gypsy-that on this forum (can't help it, my whole fam runs different organisations that help our kind so my life is kinda immersed in it), but I must say, I'm quite proud Elvis was Gypsy himself..Happy to be of the same breed LoL
Not to be Gypsy-this and Gypsy-that on this forum (can't help it, my whole fam runs different organisations that help our kind so my life is kinda immersed in it), but I must say, I'm quite proud Elvis was Gypsy himself..Happy to be of the same breed LoL
Proud is the only way to be
I read your other thread.....I mean to say my heart got tangled up in it...
I started my words and stopped them
a few times
then just cried a little...lots of heartbreak that shouldn't be.
Sometimes there is no words for the injustice and I can not understand why people
don't feel each other in their hearts.
I just don't get all the hate.
Happy note...I read Elvis' bio years ago...he has a special place in my heart
He was a good man we lost way too soon.
I read your other thread.....I mean to say my heart got tangled up in it...
I started my words and stopped them
a few times
then just cried a little...lots of heartbreak that shouldn't be.
Sometimes there is no words for the injustice and I can not understand why people
don't feel each other in their hearts.
I just don't get all the hate.
Happy note...I read Elvis' bio years ago...he has a special place in my heart
He was a good man we lost way too soon.
I've grown a level of immunity to it all, after so many years of hearing the details, and seeing the results of the worst..I now just get more angry than anything..I mean my fam has had activits, as far as I know of, dating back to before the first world war (including one great uncle who worked with Yul Brynner, another fellow Gypsy, on a couple of projects)..so I've heard quite a bit..like how many of us were killed in the Holocaust (real esitimates vary between 80-95% of our population..) or just that the very first victims of the Holocaust were 250 young Gypsy children..to test and make sure the Zyklon B gas would, indeed, kill them. Or how there is a modern day concentration camp in Italy, righ ouside Rome right now.
On a bright note, we have finally, after a decade of fighting, seen the closure of the "Death Camps for Children" in Kosovo last month. Too late to save the children tho. Those that are surviving all have severe disabilities, including irreversable brain damage, due to the lead that drifted into the camps every day from the mountains of lead piled right next to the camps..But at least it won't hurt any more children.
I should post some old phots I have of Elvis wearing a sequined Gypsy costume..leave it to him to bedazzle even that
I read your other thread.....I mean to say my heart got tangled up in it...
I started my words and stopped them
a few times
then just cried a little...lots of heartbreak that shouldn't be.
Sometimes there is no words for the injustice and I can not understand why people
don't feel each other in their hearts.
I just don't get all the hate.
Happy note...I read Elvis' bio years ago...he has a special place in my heart
He was a good man we lost way too soon.
I've grown a level of immunity to it all, after so many years of hearing the details, and seeing the results of the worst..I now just get more angry than anything..I mean my fam has had activits, as far as I know of, dating back to before the first world war (including one great uncle who worked with Yul Brynner, another fellow Gypsy, on a couple of projects)..so I've heard quite a bit..like how many of us were killed in the Holocaust (real esitimates vary between 80-95% of our population..) or just that the very first victims of the Holocaust were 250 young Gypsy children..to test and make sure the Zyklon B gas would, indeed, kill them. Or how there is a modern day concentration camp in Italy, righ ouside Rome right now.
On a bright note, we have finally, after a decade of fighting, seen the closure of the "Death Camps for Children" in Kosovo last month. Too late to save the children tho. Those that are surviving all have severe disabilities, including irreversable brain damage, due to the lead that drifted into the camps every day from the mountains of lead piled right next to the camps..But at least it won't hurt any more children.
I should post some old phots I have of Elvis wearing a sequined Gypsy costume..leave it to him to bedazzle even that
Bringing the harsh realities to people, as your family has done ...spreading the word
this will hopefully bring change. Your passion is to be admired.
We can hope that love will spread throughout the world and mend the wrongs.
Yes Elvis was bedazzling great word to describe him!
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Buddha
word.
I was just out driving this lovely spring day.
The wind whipping the pollen into yellow sheets mingled with pink white
and red blossoms, sending the clouds through the sky on fast forward.
Whipping my hair around making me feel free,
glad to be alive.
Everyone was busying out and about doing their thing.
My thoughts returned to this thread and the people of all religions
and no religions enjoying the day as I.
It was a wonderful thought bringing everyone together in the beauty that we have here,
just one day, one day in a lifetime.
I guess I may be idealistic but I hope to see the day where kindness rules
and we all accept each other everyday.
Unfortunately, this brought a counter thought...
I have noticed here how sometimes people are ridiculed for following a religion.
As my quote friend a few posts back seemed to jump on me if he thought I was a Christian.
If I misunderstood that I very much apologize....
I felt the intent to challenge may have been there.
I have received some emails and pms from those of faith ...
different faiths, expressing their fear and apprehension about discussing their religion.
Fear of being challenged in the most basic of their beliefs and sometimes not in a kind way.
I have also heard people here call religion a crutch.
This is a very negative way of looking at a need.
Everyone has needs .... they are not crutches,
we all need love, hope, happiness, etc.... they are not crutches.
When a person has Faith it is the highest degree of trust.... absolutely nothing of a crutch.
They have given their hearts to what they believe in.
I trust my husband and have immense faith in him. He is tangible.
I see him, know him, he has been here 32 years.
To believe in something you can not see.... only know in your heart
that is Faith.
Faith is beautiful... people of all faiths are beautiful and should never be thought of as less
because they trust in a God.
Religions of the world are blamed for things they shouldn't be.
It is the people of the religion, not the religion that goes awry ....responsible for hate,
prejudice, war and ridicule. There are misguided people in all religions and those with no religion.
So maybe there are others that would like to come and share from different religions
and no religion
those who may want to represent without fear of judgment or abashment.
The OP was interested in sharing this as many are.
I know I love hearing the history, the joys, the moments behind ones faith
It is a wonderful way to bring people together to just mingle a bit
You don't need religion to find them but for some that reinforces the faith they have found.
Fellowship that is not a word I hear often... I like it
lovely blondieblue ....wonderfully positive you are
maybe to embrace the person not their religion
some people make it hard to do that. some people ARE their religion. but we've talked about that before and i don't want to repeat.
Can I pray for you?
:evil:
Eddie had a really cool take on religion during Columbus 2010 show. He said the band was going to petition to make Pearl Jam an organized religion. One rule: don't be an asshole! He also said, "No fucking twittering!"
Amen!
I think we have to be flexible. Any belief system that is inflexible, closed off to other belief systems, is profoundly unhealthy. I also think that if you look at life as a long line of evolutionary changes that started billions of years ago, from little things crawling in the mud, and the you realize where we’ve got to now, that is a remarkable set of circumstances. There is more magic in that, for me, than someone creating the planet in six days and taking a day off. When you realize how long humanity has taken to get to this point, it makes you respect another person’s life in a deeper and broader sense. I wouldn’t think of killing anybody because their lineage goes back to the primordial seas, not because there’s some eye in the sky, looking out for how many commandments you’re going to break. --- Eddie Vedder
agreed
I don't swallow everything Ed says, but man, I had never heard/read this before, and it's exactly my line of thinking.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
that quote is a keeper for sure
Great!
what's the source of this?
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
http://www.twofeetthick.com/2009/07/ed- ... questions/
Hey! I used to know that guy online for a few years, that asked the question. He disappeared. His name here was Psycosmic.
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
oh yeah. i remember this interview now. ed mentions putting up a firepole and i really connected with that because it sounded something my dad would do.
beautifully descriptive
:thumbup:
*takes a bow and says in best Elvis voice* thank you, thank you very much
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZBUb0El ... re=related
Not to be Gypsy-this and Gypsy-that on this forum (can't help it, my whole fam runs different organisations that help our kind so my life is kinda immersed in it), but I must say, I'm quite proud Elvis was Gypsy himself..Happy to be of the same breed LoL
I read your other thread.....I mean to say my heart got tangled up in it...
I started my words and stopped them
a few times
then just cried a little...lots of heartbreak that shouldn't be.
Sometimes there is no words for the injustice and I can not understand why people
don't feel each other in their hearts.
I just don't get all the hate.
Happy note...I read Elvis' bio years ago...he has a special place in my heart
He was a good man we lost way too soon.
I've grown a level of immunity to it all, after so many years of hearing the details, and seeing the results of the worst..I now just get more angry than anything..I mean my fam has had activits, as far as I know of, dating back to before the first world war (including one great uncle who worked with Yul Brynner, another fellow Gypsy, on a couple of projects)..so I've heard quite a bit..like how many of us were killed in the Holocaust (real esitimates vary between 80-95% of our population..) or just that the very first victims of the Holocaust were 250 young Gypsy children..to test and make sure the Zyklon B gas would, indeed, kill them. Or how there is a modern day concentration camp in Italy, righ ouside Rome right now.
On a bright note, we have finally, after a decade of fighting, seen the closure of the "Death Camps for Children" in Kosovo last month. Too late to save the children tho. Those that are surviving all have severe disabilities, including irreversable brain damage, due to the lead that drifted into the camps every day from the mountains of lead piled right next to the camps..But at least it won't hurt any more children.
I should post some old phots I have of Elvis wearing a sequined Gypsy costume..leave it to him to bedazzle even that
this will hopefully bring change. Your passion is to be admired.
We can hope that love will spread throughout the world and mend the wrongs.
Yes Elvis was bedazzling great word to describe him!
but merely to seek and find all of the barriers within yourself
that you have built against it.