Religious Beliefs

BinauralJam

redrock wrote:

BinauralJam wrote:

.... but if i had to choose a middle man i would choose Carl Sagan,.

Sagan would be an unfortunate (or not really useful middle man) as he did not believe in a god!

Really? This explains alot!

I'll have to start Praying to:

The Waiting Trophy Man

pandora wrote:

The Waiting Trophy Man wrote:

Looks like the religious nuts are running the asylum!

your avatar looks like the mad scientist

That's D.S. Burton from the Vitalogy booklet. "An inveterate victim of the vice." Handsome fellow, isn't he? And yes, he looks a bit mad.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

BinauralJam wrote:

Which is why i'm Agnostic and why i pray to God. I don't need the Dogma and i dont need a middle man, but if i had to choose a middle man i would choose Carl Sagan, he's intelligent, articulate and has a hypnotic voice that would even catch God's attention.

Did i mention i'm a big fan of Star Trek

that's fantastic. I love it. However, you lost me at the part "I'm agnostic and I pray to God". How can you be agnostic and pray to a god? can you sit on the fence and have your feet on both lawns?

JR8805

Heaven is here. Hell is here. We tend to bounce between them. I am agnostic. Either everything I see points to a creator or none of it does. I can't decide what I'm looking at. However, I will say that the universe that we can see seems to be very much a conglomeration of replicating patterns. Mechanistic to me. It seems to be following a "program," and just does as instructed. I think we probably do, too, as we are not different from the universe, just a tiny, tiny part of it. Earth has rewards. Heaven is our conception of eternal reward. Earth has its punishments. Hell is just an extension of a one-time occurrence to an endless one. "Vengeance is mine, says the Lord." Well, not really. Vengeance, eternal vengeance is ours when we picture it. Kinda just too handy to me. Just because something is imaginable doesn't make it possible. Heaven and hell are acts of imagination--something people seem to have no shortage of. Thank goodness, a lot of the time. And, quite a pity a larger portion of the time than I'd like to see. No good without evil. No heaven without hell. Everything is part of the spectrum. "So if there were no angels would there be no sin?" Vedder

BinauralJam

Paul David wrote:

BinauralJam wrote:

Which is why i'm Agnostic and why i pray to God. I don't need the Dogma and i dont need a middle man, but if i had to choose a middle man i would choose Carl Sagan, he's intelligent, articulate and has a hypnotic voice that would even catch God's attention.

Did i mention i'm a big fan of Star Trek

that's fantastic. I love it. However, you lost me at the part "I'm agnostic and I pray to God". How can you be agnostic and pray to a god? can you sit on the fence and have your feet on both lawns?

i thought agnostic ment you beleive in God, but accept that you have no idea what God is? atleast thats the thought i've been going on. Am i wrong?

Random_Wookie

The only difference between religion and a cult is that religion has been around longer. I was bought up catholic I think, baptized and the other crap that comes with it.

Though I would say most people who believe in a religion do so, to make sense of the meaningless and pointlessness of our fragile existences. To me I don't care what people believe, as long as they play nice with others and leave me to my own existence.

redrock

BinauralJam wrote:

i thought agnostic ment you beleive in God, but accept that you have no idea what God is? atleast thats the thought i've been going on. Am i wrong?

Agnostic is when you don't know if there is a god or not - whatever it may be.

BinauralJam

redrock wrote:

BinauralJam wrote:

i thought agnostic ment you beleive in God, but accept that you have no idea what God is? atleast thats the thought i've been going on. Am i wrong?

Agnostic is when you don't know if there is a god or not - whatever it may be.

Shit, what the hell am i?

Random_Wookie

BinauralJam wrote:

Shit, what the hell am i?

what ever you want to be, currently I am sitting :roll:

BinauralJam

Random_Wookie wrote:

BinauralJam wrote:

Shit, what the hell am i?

what ever you want to be, currently I am sitting :roll:

i don't mind being labeled but i'd like to adopt the right one.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

I'd say you are a theist then. I think many people believe in God but don't truly understand what that means to them. Nothing wrong with that. I think it's refreshing, actually, for someone to say that.

BinauralJam wrote:

Shit, what the hell am i?

EmBleve

The Waiting Trophy Man wrote:

Looks like the religious nuts are running the asylum!

Nope, the fruit loops are--didn't you know they occupy asylums?. 'Religious nuts'?? Nice. You just can't help yourself, can you? :!: Must be nice to be able to stereotype so easily...makes for a real interesting life. Won't you just stop it already??

EmBleve

Paul David wrote:

I'd say you are a theist then. I think many people believe in God but don't truly understand what that means to them. Nothing wrong with that. I think it's refreshing, actually, for someone to say that.

I agree.

BinauralJam wrote:

Shit, what the hell am i?

EmBleve

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And proud of it! That's why my friends and family love me. Thanks.[/quote]

I was just thinking the same thing! Bravo for fruit loops.... the colorful, imaginative, endearing,
and way sweet one in the bunch! [/quote]

Yep, that's usually the case. lolol.

Random_Wookie

EmBleve wrote:

The Waiting Trophy Man wrote:

Looks like the religious nuts are running the asylum!

Nope, the fruit loops are--didn't you know they occupy asylums?. 'Religious nuts'?? Nice. You just can't help yourself, can you? :!: Must be nice to be able to stereotype so easily...makes for a real interesting life. Won't you just stop it already??

I would have to agree that they may not be religious nuts, but their self righteousness can push a person into the land of crazy.

BinauralJam

Good Day,

Random_Wookie

BinauralJam wrote:

Good Day,

every day is a good day , its just some a better

EmBleve

Random_Wookie wrote:

EmBleve wrote:

The Waiting Trophy Man wrote:

Looks like the religious nuts are running the asylum!

Nope, the fruit loops are--didn't you know they occupy asylums?. 'Religious nuts'?? Nice. You just can't help yourself, can you? :!: Must be nice to be able to stereotype so easily...makes for a real interesting life. Won't you just stop it already??

I would have to agree that they may not be religious nuts, but their self righteousness can push a person into the land of crazy.

Yes it can!!

pandora

EmBleve wrote:

Random_Wookie wrote:

EmBleve wrote:

Nope, the fruit loops are--didn't you know they occupy asylums?. 'Religious nuts'?? Nice. You just can't help yourself, can you? :!: Must be nice to be able to stereotype so easily...makes for a real interesting life. Won't you just stop it already??

I would have to agree that they may not be religious nuts, but their self righteousness can push a person into the land of crazy.

Yes it can!!

self righteousness .... having smug superiority
seems to me that is both sides not just the spiritual/ religious

....stereotyping is an easy way out of spending the time to know and understand another human being
and often used to feel superior over the other 'class' of person
It doesn't make for any advances.... any revelations....
it comes from a closed mind and heart that is without the love required to make human bonds except with those they feel are like themselves with like views.
Not a healthy tool when working toward unconditional love and acceptance.

Godfather.

usually people that use that word to describe someone else have a fear or uncertainty about then selfs.

Godfather.