I fucking love radiohead. This is the first time since I was a kid that I haven't been all that pumped about a new album from them. Upon first listen it sounds pretty much exactly as I thought it would. I think I've actually grown tired of them. I love Amnesiac and Kid A but his new record just isn't enjoyable to me. It's barely music at this point and the scales have tipped into the realm of just noise. I know it could grow on me and all that but honestly, if it was the same music but by another band, I wouldn't give it a second listen.
As far as "Other Music" is concerned, give me a new Mastodon record any day of the week over this stuff.
I fucking love radiohead. This is the first time since I was a kid that I haven't been all that pumped about a new album from them. Upon first listen it sounds pretty much exactly as I thought it would. I think I've actually grown tired of them. I love Amnesiac and Kid A but his new record just isn't enjoyable to me. It's barely music at this point and the scales have tipped into the realm of just noise. I know it could grow on me and all that but honestly, if it was the same music but by another band, I wouldn't give it a second listen.
As far as "Other Music" is concerned, give me a new Mastodon record any day of the week over this stuff.
Agree with all of this. Maybe this will grow on me, but it seems like it will take quite a lot of effort. Everything else by these guys, I at least enjoyed at first listen. This was just a grind to get through.
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Its amazing how dramatically my opnion changes about this album after only about 5 listens. As of now, the only song I dont really care for that much is Seperator. Bloom, Magpie and Little by LIttle are just damn great.
Its amazing how dramatically my opnion changes about this album after only about 5 listens. As of now, the only song I dont really care for that much is Seperator. Bloom, Magpie and Little by LIttle are just damn great.
The chord progression in Little by Little is so great. Definitely a lot of emotion in this album.
Imagine Pearl Jam releasing their next album and, after all the waiting, all the tension and excitement, you find that their main influences for the album were Justin Bieber and Vanilla Ice.
Imagine Pearl Jam releasing their next album and, after all the waiting, all the tension and excitement, you find that their main influences for the album were Justin Bieber and Vanilla Ice.
That's how I feel.
It's awful, I hate it.
Out of curiosity, do you like all the other Radiohead albums?
it succeeds in creating a cacophony? You realise that's not actually a good thing? :eh:
Well I think what it succeeds in doing is recreating the cacophony of stimulus which we are all living in these days, slicing it all up - and then working through it to find some harmony and resolution. Also, was listening this morning and I think it might have a 'narrative' - a kind of concept thing going lyrically - like an animal (the king of limbs) - maybe a tree? waking up to face the world. Although listening like this put me off a bit - because I haven't really enjoyed a concept album since I was about 18 (Pink Floyd the Wall - though I do still enjoy that!!)
i understand your conceptual theorem on the album, however it's only your opinion and its supposition at best... but to describe a piece of music you actually enjoy as a cacophony just ain't right... it's not a word that should be used to describe music you like... that was all i was saying.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Imagine Pearl Jam releasing their next album and, after all the waiting, all the tension and excitement, you find that their main influences for the album were Justin Bieber and Vanilla Ice.
That's how I feel.
It's awful, I hate it.
Out of curiosity, do you like all the other Radiohead albums?
Everything up to Hail To The Thief, yes. I thought it was a rushed, disjointed album that never worked either in the studio or live. In Rainbows was a massive disappointment for me as it sounded too safe and as if they were pandering to the masses.
Now it's as if they've released an album of entirely different material just to prove a point and it just doesn't sound like Radiohead anymore. In two albums, it's like listening to a different band entirely. One that doesn't work.
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Imagine Pearl Jam releasing their next album and, after all the waiting, all the tension and excitement, you find that their main influences for the album were Justin Bieber and Vanilla Ice.
That's how I feel.
It's awful, I hate it.
Out of curiosity, do you like all the other Radiohead albums?
Everything up to Hail To The Thief, yes. I thought it was a rushed, disjointed album that never worked either in the studio or live. In Rainbows was a massive disappointment for me as it sounded too safe and as if they were pandering to the masses.
Now it's as if they've released an album of entirely different material just to prove a point and it just doesn't sound like Radiohead anymore. In two albums, it's like listening to a different band entirely. One that doesn't work.
Just my opinion.
I have to chime in: OK Computer, Kid A, and Amnesiac destroy me....in the best possible way. Pure genius. I actually wrote a screenplay (a draft) on OK Computer and Kid A
it succeeds in creating a cacophony? You realise that's not actually a good thing? :eh:
Well I think what it succeeds in doing is recreating the cacophony of stimulus which we are all living in these days, slicing it all up - and then working through it to find some harmony and resolution. Also, was listening this morning and I think it might have a 'narrative' - a kind of concept thing going lyrically - like an animal (the king of limbs) - maybe a tree? waking up to face the world. Although listening like this put me off a bit - because I haven't really enjoyed a concept album since I was about 18 (Pink Floyd the Wall - though I do still enjoy that!!)
i understand your conceptual theorem on the album, however it's only your opinion and its supposition at best... but to describe a piece of music you actually enjoy as a cacophony just ain't right... it's not a word that should be used to describe music you like... that was all i was saying.
I was talking to my Dad about this album earlier, and trying to describe this point I meant about it starting with a lot of 'disquiet' (maybe better than cacophony then), but then finding more and more resolution as it progresses, and he immediately said that is common in a lot of jazz playing - to start with dissonance but seek harmony out of it (he listens to a lot more jazz than I do, but I hadn't mentioned me thinking of the album like a jazz piece). I think this is how this album works if you listen to the whole thing - it starts with discomfort and works its way through to peace. The turning point is the instrumental / vocalised song in the middle where the voice starts to echo the sounds etc I think....
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I was so stoked, hoping the gradual progression from In Rainbows to this would be astounding. This sounds like they've just thrown in some b-sides from Kid A and Amnesiac. They should have just called this one "Ambience". It sounds like a movie soundtrack.
I will say, however, I've only listened to it once, so my opinion on this could change. But I'm pretty sure the look on my face won't: :?
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I was so stoked, hoping the gradual progression from In Rainbows to this would be astounding. This sounds like they've just thrown in some b-sides from Kid A and Amnesiac. They should have just called this one "Ambience". It sounds like a movie soundtrack.
I will say, however, I've only listened to it once, so my opinion on this could change. But I'm pretty sure the look on my face won't: :?
Imagine Pearl Jam releasing their next album and, after all the waiting, all the tension and excitement, you find that their main influences for the album were Justin Bieber and Vanilla Ice.
I can't agree more. Listener's ears aren't quite ready for this yet. Radiohead always seem to be ten steps ahead of everyone else, and this is no exception.
seriously??? what listeners are you speaking of? this is the sort of comment that has people tagging radiohead fans as wankers.
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Haven't gotten to this one yet... except for Lotus Flower, which I do enjoy. It sounds even better if you don't watch the video so that you're not distracted by Thom's mime-on-ecstasy dancing and his vicious teeth.
Interesting debate tho. I have a feeling I'm not going to like the album so much. Maybe I should have listened to it first. Oh well.
In Rainbows is full of magic from start to finish... I just felt like that needed to be said. Carry on, troops. :thumbup:
Yeah, once you give the album more listens, you realize that the guitar is there in a bunch of the songs, it's just used rather subtly.
Love that pretty guitar line in "Separator." That song's becoming one of my favorites of theirs.
Absolutely. That lick is very reminiscent to me of Johnny Marr's that closes out The Queen is Dead. Very subtle, perfect fit to the song and freaking great way to close the album.
Imagine Pearl Jam releasing their next album and, after all the waiting, all the tension and excitement, you find that their main influences for the album were Justin Bieber and Vanilla Ice.
That's how I feel.
It's awful, I hate it.
is anyone else confused by this analogy?
Whatever influences they have used to create this album, be it Autechre or whoever, it has transformed one the of the greatest rock bands there was into a trippy, ambient dance act. I don't understand the continuing need to experiment to the point where they are a completely different band. They have drifted away from what was, musically, their strongest footing - they are a guitar based band. How is the album going to work live? It'd drive me crazy having to listen to this kind of stuff at high volume.
Imagine Pearl Jam releasing their next album and, after all the waiting, all the tension and excitement, you find that their main influences for the album were Justin Bieber and Vanilla Ice.
That's how I feel.
It's awful, I hate it.
is anyone else confused by this analogy?
Whatever influences they have used to create this album, be it Autechre or whoever, it has transformed one the of the greatest rock bands there was into a trippy, ambient dance act. I don't understand the continuing need to experiment to the point where they are a completely different band. They have drifted away from what was, musically, their strongest footing - they are a guitar based band. How is the album going to work live? It'd drive me crazy having to listen to this kind of stuff at high volume.
Just my opinion, as I said.
you have consicely put in a few posts my feelings on Radiohead.
I can't agree more. Listener's ears aren't quite ready for this yet. Radiohead always seem to be ten steps ahead of everyone else, and this is no exception.
seriously??? what listeners are you speaking of? this is the sort of comment that has people tagging radiohead fans as wankers.
I also want to say I listened to The Bends in the car today... it's 14 times greater than this new album.. reminded me of why the got the accolades they deserved in the 1st place.
'Just' came on and it it was just sublime... and Street Spirit to finish...
i'm beginning to think the new album was recorded in various nuclear places and that they just used the shitty geiger counter thing to save the drummer coming up with actual real drums...
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
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i've yet to find a single song on the album that makes me want to listen to it over and over.
I also want to say I listened to The Bends in the car today... it's 14 times greater than this new album.. reminded me of why the got the accolades they deserved in the 1st place.
'Just' came on and it it was just sublime... and Street Spirit to finish...
i'm beginning to think the new album was recorded in various nuclear places and that they just used the shitty geiger counter thing to save the drummer coming up with actual real drums...
Seriously. I played OKC yesterday - yeah, that's a real album. Sorry, this is crap. It's like something Kanye West would make with all the sampling & shit. Get in the studio and playing some fucking instruments.
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I fucking love radiohead. This is the first time since I was a kid that I haven't been all that pumped about a new album from them. Upon first listen it sounds pretty much exactly as I thought it would. I think I've actually grown tired of them. I love Amnesiac and Kid A but his new record just isn't enjoyable to me. It's barely music at this point and the scales have tipped into the realm of just noise. I know it could grow on me and all that but honestly, if it was the same music but by another band, I wouldn't give it a second listen.
As far as "Other Music" is concerned, give me a new Mastodon record any day of the week over this stuff.
Agree with all of this. Maybe this will grow on me, but it seems like it will take quite a lot of effort. Everything else by these guys, I at least enjoyed at first listen. This was just a grind to get through.
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The chord progression in Little by Little is so great. Definitely a lot of emotion in this album.
That's how I feel.
It's awful, I hate it.
Out of curiosity, do you like all the other Radiohead albums?
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i understand your conceptual theorem on the album, however it's only your opinion and its supposition at best... but to describe a piece of music you actually enjoy as a cacophony just ain't right... it's not a word that should be used to describe music you like... that was all i was saying.
Everything up to Hail To The Thief, yes. I thought it was a rushed, disjointed album that never worked either in the studio or live. In Rainbows was a massive disappointment for me as it sounded too safe and as if they were pandering to the masses.
Now it's as if they've released an album of entirely different material just to prove a point and it just doesn't sound like Radiohead anymore. In two albums, it's like listening to a different band entirely. One that doesn't work.
Just my opinion.
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I have to chime in: OK Computer, Kid A, and Amnesiac destroy me....in the best possible way. Pure genius. I actually wrote a screenplay (a draft) on OK Computer and Kid A
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I was talking to my Dad about this album earlier, and trying to describe this point I meant about it starting with a lot of 'disquiet' (maybe better than cacophony then), but then finding more and more resolution as it progresses, and he immediately said that is common in a lot of jazz playing - to start with dissonance but seek harmony out of it (he listens to a lot more jazz than I do, but I hadn't mentioned me thinking of the album like a jazz piece). I think this is how this album works if you listen to the whole thing - it starts with discomfort and works its way through to peace. The turning point is the instrumental / vocalised song in the middle where the voice starts to echo the sounds etc I think....
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I will say, however, I've only listened to it once, so my opinion on this could change. But I'm pretty sure the look on my face won't: :?
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can't judge this album off one listen
is anyone else confused by this analogy?
seriously??? what listeners are you speaking of? this is the sort of comment that has people tagging radiohead fans as wankers.
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Love that pretty guitar line in "Separator." That song's becoming one of my favorites of theirs.
Interesting debate tho. I have a feeling I'm not going to like the album so much. Maybe I should have listened to it first. Oh well.
In Rainbows is full of magic from start to finish... I just felt like that needed to be said. Carry on, troops. :thumbup:
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Absolutely. That lick is very reminiscent to me of Johnny Marr's that closes out The Queen is Dead. Very subtle, perfect fit to the song and freaking great way to close the album.
Whatever influences they have used to create this album, be it Autechre or whoever, it has transformed one the of the greatest rock bands there was into a trippy, ambient dance act. I don't understand the continuing need to experiment to the point where they are a completely different band. They have drifted away from what was, musically, their strongest footing - they are a guitar based band. How is the album going to work live? It'd drive me crazy having to listen to this kind of stuff at high volume.
Just my opinion, as I said.
you have consicely put in a few posts my feelings on Radiohead.
'Just' came on and it it was just sublime... and Street Spirit to finish...
i'm beginning to think the new album was recorded in various nuclear places and that they just used the shitty geiger counter thing to save the drummer coming up with actual real drums...
get back to the fucking guitars
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i'm less than impressed with it.
Seriously. I played OKC yesterday - yeah, that's a real album. Sorry, this is crap. It's like something Kanye West would make with all the sampling & shit. Get in the studio and playing some fucking instruments.
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