Project #7 - Static Echoes: Yield Live

TheRealDanPatch

tremors wrote:

Cameron4President wrote:

So...
There's still Maryland Heights, 07/02, with the talk at the end we could possibly keep a part of. Really like this one.
Mansfield, 09/16, seems to have the 'clearest' sound.
Inglewood, 07/13 is sweet.
Inglewood, 07/14 is ok too. SQ slightly better than night 1. But night 1 has a nice 'spin' to it.

All four apparently have a better SQ than Minneapolis.

And my vote goes to ........ Maryland Heights!

Let's try...

Wishlist:
Park City, Utah 6/21/98
Englewood, Colorado 6/23/98

DTE:
Englewood, Colorado 6/23/98
Melbourne 3/5/98

myra

Cameron4President wrote:

tremors wrote:

Cameron4President wrote:

So...
There's still Maryland Heights, 07/02, with the talk at the end we could possibly keep a part of. Really like this one.
Mansfield, 09/16, seems to have the 'clearest' sound.
Inglewood, 07/13 is sweet.
Inglewood, 07/14 is ok too. SQ slightly better than night 1. But night 1 has a nice 'spin' to it.

All four apparently have a better SQ than Minneapolis.

And my vote goes to ........ Maryland Heights!

Let's try...

Wishlist:
Park City, Utah 6/21/98
Englewood, Colorado 6/23/98

DTE:
Englewood, Colorado 6/23/98
Melbourne 3/5/98

Wishlist :
Englewood over Park City ---> sound is not the best, and there's a slip up midway through it.
Englewood is nice. Louder crowd and song builds up nicely. I'm not so sure about the guitar on-purpose distortion towards the end. That's fun now, but it could end up being a bit annoying after a few listens. I don't know.

DTE :
both sound good too. I still like Mansfield better, but that's probably just me, considering that I don't like that song that much anyway ... Any of those two would suit me equally.

myra

tremors wrote:

And my vote goes to ........ Maryland Heights!

:thumbup:

tremors

myra wrote:

tremors wrote:

And my vote goes to ........ Maryland Heights!

:thumbup:

I liked that one, had a good effect on me.

Fancied a bit of Leatherman this morning and put on our version. One of the problems I think is that they improved this song a lot by making it more agressive and faster, but I think they may have done this for the 2000 tour - which makes the original sound pretty pedestrian by comparison. The version we have got seems a little in between - but I couldn't help wishing for the later arrangement on this song - much more punchy. I'm not sure if they brought in the faster arrangement in 98 or not though

myra

tremors wrote:

myra wrote:

tremors wrote:

And my vote goes to ........ Maryland Heights!

:thumbup:

I liked that one, had a good effect on me.

Fancied a bit of Leatherman this morning and put on our version. One of the problems I think is that they improved this song a lot by making it more agressive and faster, but I think they may have done this for the 2000 tour - which makes the original sound pretty pedestrian by comparison. The version we have got seems a little in between - but I couldn't help wishing for the later arrangement on this song - much more punchy. I'm not sure if they brought in the faster arrangement in 98 or not though

Am at work right now and I don't have my notes with me. I don't recall hearing a very different arrangement for this song when listening to the different versions off the '98 tour. But I could be wrong. Worth checking it out.

tremors

myra wrote:

tremors wrote:

Fancied a bit of Leatherman this morning and put on our version. One of the problems I think is that they improved this song a lot by making it more agressive and faster, but I think they may have done this for the 2000 tour - which makes the original sound pretty pedestrian by comparison. The version we have got seems a little in between - but I couldn't help wishing for the later arrangement on this song - much more punchy. I'm not sure if they brought in the faster arrangement in 98 or not though

Am at work right now and I don't have my notes with me. I don't recall hearing a very different arrangement for this song when listening to the different versions off the '98 tour. But I could be wrong. Worth checking it out.

Notes! You're far better than I am at this!

No, my hunch is they jazzed it for the 2000 tour, which is when I started digging the song. I was thinking about your earlier comments that you didn't get it. I think the later live versions are a much better rendition of this song - but the one we have is good, for the earlier arrangment

myra

tremors wrote:

Notes! You're far better than I am at this!

No, my hunch is they jazzed it for the 2000 tour, which is when I started digging the song. I was thinking about your earlier comments that you didn't get it. I think the later live versions are a much better rendition of this song - but the one we have is good, for the earlier arrangment

I'm organized

I'll have to check it out on its 2000 arrangement then. I reckon it's not the song in itself, rather the lyrics I'm uneasy with. It'll grow on me eventually, I guess.

tremors

myra wrote:

tremors wrote:

Notes! You're far better than I am at this!

No, my hunch is they jazzed it for the 2000 tour, which is when I started digging the song. I was thinking about your earlier comments that you didn't get it. I think the later live versions are a much better rendition of this song - but the one we have is good, for the earlier arrangment

I'm organized

I'll have to check it out on its 2000 arrangement then. I reckon it's not the song in itself, rather the lyrics I'm uneasy with. It'll grow on me eventually, I guess.

Yeah check out 2000 era live versions. I don't remember thinking anything much at all of Leatherman when I heard it on the b-side - thought it was a bit of a non event. I think the lyrics work better when there is more 'wildness' in the performance - and then I can relate to this wild weird character that is the Leatherman

myra

tremors wrote:

Yeah check out 2000 era live versions. I don't remember thinking anything much at all of Leatherman when I heard it on the b-side - thought it was a bit of a non event. I think the lyrics work better when there is more 'wildness' in the performance - and then I can relate to this wild weird character that is the Leatherman

Just did.





Nope, still not getting it.

locked

locked wrote:

Do the evolution
7/14/98
Forum
Great version!


FOLKS..
Has this version been ruled out?

Keep up the great work!

Scott in Boston..

locked

just my opinion but :

Faithfull - Mansfield, Ma (September 16,1998) is better vocal performance
than the Seattle, Washington (July 22, 1998) track..

Ed's voice is a little dicey mid-way thru Seattle..

http://www.pearljambootlegs.org/modules ... D&ext.html

myra

locked wrote:

Do the evolution
7/14/98
Forum
Great version!


FOLKS..
Has this version been ruled out?

I don't think so :?

I've been blasting DTE for the last hour or so. I start to really really -finally- enjoy this song....
But that's irrelevant.

I actually like this version better than Melbourne and Englewood.
Melbourne has the best SQ I reckon, but the vocals seem to be 'lower' than the music somehow.
This version IMO has a better overall sound than Englewood and it's more 'balanced' too.
It's probably more 'balanced' than Mansfield too, even though the latter is definitely wilder. Maybe too much so though vocally-wise.

tremors

locked wrote:

just my opinion but :

Faithfull - Mansfield, Ma (September 16,1998) is better vocal performance
than the Seattle, Washington (July 22, 1998) track..

Ed's voice is a little dicey mid-way thru Seattle..

http://www.pearljambootlegs.org/modules ... D&ext.html

We've been getting quite a lot of love for the Seattle Faithfull - people rating it very highly, so I doubt that one will change. DTE and Wishlist however, are another matter....!

tremors

myra wrote:

tremors wrote:

Yeah check out 2000 era live versions. I don't remember thinking anything much at all of Leatherman when I heard it on the b-side - thought it was a bit of a non event. I think the lyrics work better when there is more 'wildness' in the performance - and then I can relate to this wild weird character that is the Leatherman

Just did.





Nope, still not getting it.

You obviously haven't spent as much time roaming wild outside society as I have

myra

locked wrote:

just my opinion but :

Faithfull - Mansfield, Ma (September 16,1998) is better vocal performance
than the Seattle, Washington (July 22, 1998) track..

Ed's voice is a little dicey mid-way thru Seattle..

http://www.pearljambootlegs.org/modules ... D&ext.html

I wouldn't want to change Faithfull. Seattle is definitely 'special'. And all other versions seem a bit 'flat' after this one. Even Mansfield, however great, doesn't convey the same intensity IMO.

myra

tremors wrote:

You obviously haven't spent as much time roaming wild outside society as I have

Probably very true. :oops:

TheRealDanPatch

locked wrote:

locked wrote:

Do the evolution
7/14/98
Forum
Great version!


FOLKS..
Has this version been ruled out?

Keep up the great work!

Scott in Boston..

Yes, because it was the version that they used on LO2L.

PilateOfTheStorm

myra wrote:

locked wrote:

just my opinion but :

Faithfull - Mansfield, Ma (September 16,1998) is better vocal performance
than the Seattle, Washington (July 22, 1998) track..

Ed's voice is a little dicey mid-way thru Seattle..

http://www.pearljambootlegs.org/modules ... D&ext.html

I wouldn't want to change Faithfull. Seattle is definitely 'special'. And all other versions seem a bit 'flat' after this one. Even Mansfield, however great, doesn't convey the same intensity IMO.

i agree. we have to keep it, i love it. this version is one of, if not the, best IMO
okay, i've got to go listen to it again

TheRealDanPatch

I have been very busy at work today, and haven't had a chance to check in. What's the verdict on "Wishlist" and "DTE". What versions would you guys like me to put on Version 1 tonight?

TheRealDanPatch

electricxlovex wrote:

myra wrote:

locked wrote:

just my opinion but :

Faithfull - Mansfield, Ma (September 16,1998) is better vocal performance
than the Seattle, Washington (July 22, 1998) track..

Ed's voice is a little dicey mid-way thru Seattle..

http://www.pearljambootlegs.org/modules ... D&ext.html

I wouldn't want to change Faithfull. Seattle is definitely 'special'. And all other versions seem a bit 'flat' after this one. Even Mansfield, however great, doesn't convey the same intensity IMO.

i agree. we have to keep it, i love it. this version is one of, if not the, best IMO
okay, i've got to go listen to it again

Faithfull must stay, it is too good not to be on it and we all love it.