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  • Slap upside the head
    Slap upside the head Posts: 904
    The laws were changed for the better after the Dunblane tragedy.
    Unfortunately, the U.S. loves violence too much to even consider changing.
  • MotoDC
    MotoDC Posts: 947
    Slap upside the head wrote:
    The laws were changed for the better after the Dunblane tragedy.
    Unfortunately, the U.S. loves violence too much to even consider changing.
    What a complete and utter misunderstanding of the reasons some folks support the 2nd amendment. There are too many threads with this kind of nonsensical, unfounded rhetoric going on for me to attempt another reply here.
  • Slap upside the head
    Slap upside the head Posts: 904
    MotoDC wrote:
    Slap upside the head wrote:
    The laws were changed for the better after the Dunblane tragedy.
    Unfortunately, the U.S. loves violence too much to even consider changing.
    What a complete and utter misunderstanding of the reasons some folks support the 2nd amendment. There are too many threads with this kind of nonsensical, unfounded rhetoric going on for me to attempt another reply here.

    I suspect you own a gun or 2?
    Your 2nd amendment is old and archaic and really needs a major overhaul.
    If you find that to be unsensical and unfounded rhetoric then that's your problem.
  • MotoDC
    MotoDC Posts: 947
    Slap upside the head wrote:
    MotoDC wrote:
    Slap upside the head wrote:
    The laws were changed for the better after the Dunblane tragedy.
    Unfortunately, the U.S. loves violence too much to even consider changing.
    What a complete and utter misunderstanding of the reasons some folks support the 2nd amendment. There are too many threads with this kind of nonsensical, unfounded rhetoric going on for me to attempt another reply here.

    I suspect you own a gun or 2?
    Your 2nd amendment is old and archaic and really needs a major overhaul.
    If you find that to be unsensical and unfounded rhetoric then that's your problem.
    Ah, one of my favorite interweb argumentating devices:

    person 1: <gross exaggeration of the situation or a complete fabrication of the reasoning for something>
    person 2: <calls out person 1>
    person 1: <completely restates their initial perspective and then attempts to apply person 2's response to their new statement instead of the initial one>

    Classic.
  • Slap upside the head
    Slap upside the head Posts: 904
    MotoDC wrote:
    Ah, one of my favorite interweb argumentating devices:

    person 1: <gross exaggeration of the situation or a complete fabrication of the reasoning for something>
    person 2: <calls out person 1>
    person 1: <completely restates their initial perspective and then attempts to apply person 2's response to their new statement instead of the initial one>

    Classic.

    you lost me with your non-sensical and unfounded rhetoric there.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    long thread indeed
  • magga1976
    magga1976 Albury NSW Australia Posts: 522
    MotoDC wrote:
    Slap upside the head wrote:
    The laws were changed for the better after the Dunblane tragedy.
    Unfortunately, the U.S. loves violence too much to even consider changing.
    What a complete and utter misunderstanding of the reasons some folks support the 2nd amendment. There are too many threads with this kind of nonsensical, unfounded rhetoric going on for me to attempt another reply here.

    What are the reasons people support the 2nd Amendment?
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    edited December 2012
    ztasty69 wrote:
    how many people are killed in stabbings? with a kitchen knife? should they take away all kitchen knives? Guns don't kill people, people kill people...
    ...
    You run in a mall... trying to stab people... and i'm going after you. I will treat you as hostile and dangerous and do what I can to get that knife away from you, take your sorry, knife-wielding ass to the ground and pound the holy shit out of you. And i will have about 50 other American men on my side who are not afraid of you.
    Come into the mall with an AR-15... trying to shoot people... and i'm ducking for cover and runing away, screaming like a little school girl because a gun wins... every time.
    ...
    THAT... is the motherfucking difference.
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  • pjradio
    pjradio Posts: 6,704
    Cosmo wrote:
    ztasty69 wrote:
    how many people are killed in stabbings? with a kitchen knife? should they take away all kitchen knives? Guns don't kill people, people kill people...
    ...
    You run in a mall... trying to stab people... and i'm going after you. I will trreat you as hostile and do what I can to get that knife away from you, take you sorry, knife wielding ass to the ground and pound the holy shit out of you. And i will have about 50 other American men on my side who are not afraid of you.
    Come into the mall with an AR-15... trying to shoot people... and i'm ducking for cover and runing awy, screaming like a little school girl because a gun wins... every time.
    ...
    THAT... is the motherfucking difference.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,229
    I liked Chris Rock"s idea on gun control and

    http://youtu.be/OuX-nFmL0II

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,302
    just ban ALL Ammo, prob solved. Nothing in the 2nd that states a right to ammo!!
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,229
    mickeyrat wrote:
    just ban ALL Ammo, prob solved. Nothing in the 2nd that states a right to ammo!!

    EXACTLY! I mean America apparently is in love with its guns ability to collect guns emthuistically. Well collect all the guns you want but ban the ammo. I can see why Chris Rock said just charge 5k for each bullet we may think twice about shooting a gun.

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,302
    g under p wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    just ban ALL Ammo, prob solved. Nothing in the 2nd that states a right to ammo!!

    EXACTLY! I mean America apparently is in love with its guns ability to collect guns emthuistically. Well collect all the guns you want but ban the ammo. I can see why Chris Rock said just charge 5k for each bullet we may think twice about shooting a gun.

    Peace
    and for the ammo that IS out there, it'll become like gold or something. Think anyone is gonna let there percious bullets escape?
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    magga1976 wrote:
    MotoDC wrote:
    Slap upside the head wrote:
    The laws were changed for the better after the Dunblane tragedy.
    Unfortunately, the U.S. loves violence too much to even consider changing.
    What a complete and utter misunderstanding of the reasons some folks support the 2nd amendment. There are too many threads with this kind of nonsensical, unfounded rhetoric going on for me to attempt another reply here.

    What are the reasons people support the 2nd Amendment?

    I think I am on everyone's ignore list. I have posted the three major reasons I have heard for the 2nd ammendment remaining as is:

    1. The government is going to go tyrannical the moment the citizens give up their guns.

    2. Other people with guns are going to get you so you need guns to get them before they get you.

    3. Guns are fun.

    And have heard this one as well which might stand as a 4th reason:

    4. Quit telling me what to do.

    * Seriously... what am I missing here? Are these really the reasons?
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,302
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:
    magga1976 wrote:
    MotoDC wrote:
    What a complete and utter misunderstanding of the reasons some folks support the 2nd amendment. There are too many threads with this kind of nonsensical, unfounded rhetoric going on for me to attempt another reply here.

    What are the reasons people support the 2nd Amendment?

    I think I am on everyone's ignore list. I have posted the three major reasons I have heard for the 2nd ammendment remaining as is:

    1. The government is going to go tyrannical the moment the citizens give up their guns.

    2. Other people with guns are going to get you so you need guns to get them before they get you.

    3. Guns are fun.

    And have heard this one as well which might stand as a 4th reason:

    4. Quit telling me what to do.

    * Seriously... what am I missing here? Are these really the reasons?
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    :mrgreen: sorry , couldnt resist.

    I havent heard them quite THAT way, but I could see how they could be construed that way.

    I think the only best reason I dont have one is I dont trust myself with that type of power.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    I guess I frame the 'reasons' in tongue-in-cheek fashion: warranting no response.

    But, if you think about it... they aren't far from the exact truth. Fear and paranoia have people abandon common sense and ignore logic and facts. The overwhelming statistics demand action... yet some don't see that.
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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    mickeyrat wrote:
    just ban ALL Ammo, prob solved. Nothing in the 2nd that states a right to ammo!!

    :lol::lol:
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    MotoDC wrote:
    Slap upside the head wrote:
    The laws were changed for the better after the Dunblane tragedy.
    Unfortunately, the U.S. loves violence too much to even consider changing.
    What a complete and utter misunderstanding of the reasons some folks support the 2nd amendment. There are too many threads with this kind of nonsensical, unfounded rhetoric going on for me to attempt another reply here.


    i support the right to own a slave. that was 250 odd years ago as well ...
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    Drugs are illegal, hows that working out?
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    aerial wrote:
    Drugs are illegal, hows that working out?

    Who's talking about making guns illegal?

    Nobody is.


    Carry on.

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