I tried to read thru every pg of this thread but got tired of all the whinny responses , People you either pay to increase or you stay at the same level it's an option not a Demand i have Zero problem with this ....
Folks I've been paying up since 93 and will keep going till the End Of this when ever that may be , See you guys at the Anniversary shows ..
but you don't stay at the same level. things were taken away at the $20 level
Also fans from poorer areas of the world (lets say Indonesia for example) are going to have to go without food for 2 weeks instead of 1 or sell a kidney if they want the vinyl because of this bullshit money whoring trip PJ and TC is on.
Please put on your thinking hats.
Funny....
It is the 1st of the year....
And we now have 364 days, for somebody to come up with a more RIDICULOUS comment than this.....
I tried to read thru every pg of this thread but got tired of all the whinny responses , People you either pay to increase or you stay at the same level it's an option not a Demand i have Zero problem with this ....
Folks I've been paying up since 93 and will keep going till the End Of this when ever that may be , See you guys at the Anniversary shows ..
but you don't stay at the same level. things were taken away at the $20 level
But not the most important thing for me which is the chance at those precious lovely 3rd row seats
First, I don't think that most members are in the club for the Tix. Almost all the shows outside of the U.S. are general admission and there are plenty of members, myself included, who have never even had the band play their country. I am here pretty much for the community here on the boards with people who know what it is like to love a band for most of their lives (I am 30 years old) and the chance to feel like a kid again getting excited over rumors of new music and possible tours.
Second, I like the idea of getting a T-shirt every year. Shipping and handling costs pretty much double the price if ordered regularly.
As for the free bootleg download, I already used mine. It is for any of the bootlegs in the goods section. Just stick in the code you get in the conformation e-mail and proceed to check out. If you want to download the show as an MP3, than it is free. If you want it as a FLAC it will give you $10 off.
Even though my membership was good until Dec 15 2011, I added another year of analog any way.
Still can't believe I met Mike Mccready at the Guggenheim and got a pic with him!!!!!
2010: 9/7/10 - Bilbao
2012: 26-27/6/12 - Amsterdam ~~ 29/6/12 - Werchter ~~ 4-5/7/12 - Berlin
2014: 25/6/14 - Vienna ~~ 26/6/14 - Berlin
I really don't understand why this is such upsetting news.
Everything goes up in price. The Ten Club is now giving us a choice, based on personal preference
and if the increase is too much or you don't agree for whatever reason, then don't renew.
It's seems pretty simple.
Agree 100%. I don't get it... First of all, I've never been shut out of a show I wanted to go to. I've always had a sneaky suspicion that some people just aren't quite sure how to give themselves the best chance to get tickets. Some have been tougher than others and some have taken more than two hours clicking, but $20 for a very-decent pre-sale chance (and basically a 100% chance for all non-major shows) and static number/seat along with a few minor yearly perks sounds very reasonable to me. As people have posted, the Bon Jovi prices are quite high. You get a bit more, but I have a coworker that spends $3,000 a show on a VIP package that isn't all that amazing. Prices have gone up for PJ tickets to between $70-$80 each and as far as I'm concerned that's so much better than they could be. Other acts that have been around for 20 years charge 3-4 times that just to be in the building. With 10c not only am I in the building but I'm usually better off than the Ticketmaster purchasers.
Frankly, I'm thankful the price of 10c hasn't had a mandatory increase for all. I find it hardly to believe that some people would prefer that to this option, basically only because they won't get a free 45, which certainly is very nice to get as late as it usually is. But does that define your PJ membership and experience? If it does I think you better question your motives. How is an option bad? Yes, I agree that the $20 package is now slightly less valuable. Slightly being the key word there. Everyone has no trouble writing off what the ARE getting from the yearly fee and concentrating on what is lost. Frankly, this is a bit immature.
Concerning Eddie's and PJ's wealth, they're 100% entitled to it. Not only that, they could be spoon-feeding you money-making propositions for the rest of their lives with no touring, no new music, etc and live very comfortably. Those who claim that this is about money should take a step back and realize that they have no idea what this is about. Not only that, it's not their responsibility to tell us. We pay for a service and they tell us what we get for that money, not how much of it goes to save turtles or the WM3. It's their money. As one wise person said at some point in this ridiculous thread, "Vote with your dollar."
First, I don't think that most members are in the club for the Tix. Almost all the shows outside of the U.S. are general admission and there are plenty of members, myself included, who have never even had the band play their country. I am here pretty much for the community here on the boards with people who know what it is like to love a band for most of their lives (I am 30 years old) and the chance to feel like a kid again getting excited over rumors of new music and possible tours.
Second, I like the idea of getting a T-shirt every year. Shipping and handling costs pretty much double the price if ordered regularly.
As for the free bootleg download, I already used mine. It is for any of the bootlegs in the goods section. Just stick in the code you get in the conformation e-mail and proceed to check out. If you want to download the show as an MP3, than it is free. If you want it as a FLAC it will give you $10 off.
Even though my membership was good until Dec 15 2011, I added another year of analog any way.
I hear you but i Said For me the most important and only thing i look for is the chance at Tickets that is what got me into this Club way back in the begining the chance to get Tickets , and i do feel for you that the band hasn't played in your neck of the woods ...Maybe they will sometime
I've been a member too long, and membership is the only way I ever got tickets, so since I'm due to renew, I've taken the tier two and I'm not going to stress about it. I'll miss getting the mail ... I really liked the mail; but in the big scheme of things, I don't *really* need to acquire any more "things," so I'll just satisfy myself with access to the music. Ten Club really is a business, after all, and I'm sure that the people who decide on the analog option will ultimately be happy about it. It's nice to have choices.
+1
agree, only been a member for a month or so (since November 2010)
vinyl doesn't matter to me, things like tshirts and that stuff, i don't care about them. I don't need a tshirt or a key ring or a sticker to prove that I love this band's music. Sure it's nice, and I have bought a tshirt, but it isn't something I'd miss if I didn't have it.
Regardless of what membership you choose, You'll still have the
MUSIC
which is the mother to all of this, the most important thing of all.
Plus presale tickets to shows - I know some people are affected by it, but many people have been and by the looks and sounds of it have got amazing seats. Which is awesome. Better than a lot of the other bands out there.
Plus access to this community, to communicate and connect with fans all over the world - pretty cool.
I sympathize with people who like the vinyl and stuff, and who don't want to pay more. I really do and I'm all for people voicing their opinions, saying what they believe and standing up for something. We shouldn't just take things lying down, even if it is stuff from our favourite band. I get it.
But I just think people need to calm down, remember what it's all about. What Pearl Jam actually means to you.
'm a member because I enjoy PJ, I would love to get good seats but most importantly, I love this community!!! Everybody here is so nice and caring, I am proud to be a member! I
3) It is almost the New Year, so I just want to wish every single person on here a happy new year! Don't let this ruin your day, look on the bright side and get on with your day!
Rico
Happy New Year Rico!
agree with what you said there ^
Goodbye to all, your seats will not improve with my departure as I was in the 400xxx. The music this band has put out has steadily declined and now the respect for the fans is on the decline as well.
$20 is not the issue. I wonder if PJ realizes that they fan club they so dearly love and talk of, is the one and only reason that some fans are not listening to the the music anymore.
'm a member because I enjoy PJ, I would love to get good seats but most importantly, I love this community!!! Everybody here is so nice and caring, I am proud to be a member! I
3) It is almost the New Year, so I just want to wish every single person on here a happy new year! Don't let this ruin your day, look on the bright side and get on with your day!
Rico
Happy New Year Rico!
agree with what you said there ^
Thanks, happy new year!!!!
Tres Mts- 3/16/2011
Eddie Vedder- 7/16/11
Brad- 4/21/12 (RSD Performance), 4/27/12, 8/10/12
Flight To Mars- 5/23/12
RNDM- 11/27/12
PEARL JAM- 12/6/13 I have finally seen Pearl Jam live!
I'm too damn lazy to read 18 pages of posts, so maybe someone already said this...
At the VERY least, I hope 10c doesn't go & put the analog membership t-shirt up for sale on the website, or anywhere else for that matter. PLEASE give ppl who are paying for the upgrade the peace of mind that this is an exclusive t-shirt, each year. If I see my cousin walking around in the same shirt, that she bought at Target just cause she "liked all the pretty colors," I might just have a fucking meltdown. And for fuck's sake, please tell me they will ask our sizes when we renew. If this is the only "upgrade" I'm getting in the "upgrade," I sure as hell wanna be able to wear it (if it ain't shit-ass ugly).
Happy New Year everyone...don't let the great divide begin. Be you digital or analog, enjoy the music, hope for a good seat, and cherish the good people we get to know through 10c.
I joined last summer and have had nothing from 10c yet at all, but I have made some amazing friendships and learned more about my favorite band...so I'm a happy camper! Don't stand a chance with the tix, but that's my lot for joining so late....I've known about PJ since '92 :?
I've read everything on here and also thought about it a few times over the past 24 hours and I don't mind the price increase, everything goes up. I can't think of one single thing that costs now what it did in 1991. Shit, look at gas...
The one thing that bothers me is the lack of effort put into the new packages. If you want to up the renewal fee by $25 (international) that's fine. $50 is still lower than a lot of other fan clubs. But it would be nice to see them come up with something awesome. This is the 20th anniversary. You're telling me, no one in the 10c offices could come up with something more appealing that a t-shirt?
Happy New Year everyone...don't let the great divide begin. Be you digital or analog, enjoy the music, hope for a good seat, and cherish the good people we get to know through 10c.
I joined last summer and have had nothing from 10c yet at all, but I have made some amazing friendships and learned more about my favorite band...so I'm a happy camper! Don't stand a chance with the tix, but that's my lot for joining so late....I've known about PJ since '92 :?
I wonder if PJ realizes that they fan club they so dearly love and talk of, is the one and only reason that some fans are not listening to the the music anymore.
I'm not gonna argue with anyone which level is better and if those changes are good or bad, everyone has right to have opinion
I understand that people are quitting fan club if they don't like the rules anymore but why they don't listening to music anymore? Stop listening to music if you don't like the fan club is just.... weird.
Too bad you decided to quit, hope your love to music will stay strong
Anyway happy new year everyone, hope it will be even better than 2010 for you all!!!
Chorzów 2007 - Berlin 2009 - Berlin 2010 - Gdynia 2010 - Berlin 2012 - Berlin 2012 - Stockholm 2012 - EV Manchester 2012 - Milan 2014 - Trieste 2014 - Vienna 2014 - Berlin 2014 - Gdynia 2014 - Rio 2018 - Sao Paulo 2018
I've read everything on here and also thought about it a few times over the past 24 hours and I don't mind the price increase, everything goes up. I can't think of one single thing that costs now what it did in 1991. Shit, look at gas...
The one thing that bothers me is the lack of effort put into the new packages. If you want to up the renewal fee by $25 (international) that's fine. $50 is still lower than a lot of other fan clubs. But it would be nice to see them come up with something awesome. This is the 20th anniversary. You're telling me, no one in the 10c offices could come up with something more appealing that a t-shirt?
Who's to say something isn't planned? I think that's something that should be judged after the fact. At the end of the year if nothing is done I think your point is valid.
Analog all the way, and I think its time to give us some 2011 tour dates.
Rock Werchter 4 july - 2010, Arras 3 july - 2010, Berlin Wuhlheide - June 30, 2010, Odyssey arena Belfast - 23 june 2010, O2 arena Dublin - june 22 2010, O2 arena London - Aug 18, 2009, Manchester Evening News Arena - Aug 17, 2009, Berlin Wuhlheide - Aug 15, 2009, Copenhagen 2007-06-26 Forum, London 2007-06-18 Wembley Arena, Prague 2006-09-22 Sazka Arena, Denmark 2000-06-30 Roskilde Festival, Stockholm on August 12th Mirrorball tour with Neil Young, Oslo 1993-06-27 Isle of Calf Festival(Kalvoya), Oslo Secret Club Concert 1993-06-26 Sentrum Scene
I wonder if PJ realizes that they fan club they so dearly love and talk of, is the one and only reason that some fans are not listening to the the music anymore.
I'm not gonna argue with anyone which level is better and if those changes are good or bad, everyone has right to have opinion
I can understand that people are quitting fan club if they don't like the rules anymore but why they don't listening to music anymore? Stop listening to music if you don't like the fan club is just.... weird.
Too bad you decided to quit, hope your love to music will stay strong
Anyway happy new year everyone, hope it will be even better than 2010 for you all!!!
I agree but I'll take it one step further. It's not "weird", it's misguided. There's a sense here that PJ owes something to us, where I feel that we owe something to them.
Analog all the way, and I think its time to give us some 2011 tour dates.
+1 hope 2011 will bring us another Euro tour
Chorzów 2007 - Berlin 2009 - Berlin 2010 - Gdynia 2010 - Berlin 2012 - Berlin 2012 - Stockholm 2012 - EV Manchester 2012 - Milan 2014 - Trieste 2014 - Vienna 2014 - Berlin 2014 - Gdynia 2014 - Rio 2018 - Sao Paulo 2018
I wonder if PJ realizes that they fan club they so dearly love and talk of, is the one and only reason that some fans are not listening to the the music anymore.
I'm not gonna argue with anyone which level is better and if those changes are good or bad, everyone has right to have opinion
I can understand that people are quitting fan club if they don't like the rules anymore but why they don't listening to music anymore? Stop listening to music if you don't like the fan club is just.... weird.
Too bad you decided to quit, hope your love to music will stay strong
Anyway happy new year everyone, hope it will be even better than 2010 for you all!!!
I agree but I'll take it one step further. It's not "weird", it's misguided. There's a sense here that PJ owes something to us, where I feel that we owe something to them.
If this interesting...What do you feel that we owe to the band?....
I don't mind price increases if I feel I'm getting something for my money. In this instance I don't think there is enough to justify the increase. I couldn't care less about a t-shirt or a download of something that is available for purchase by anyone. Other than those two things nothing has changed from what we got with the old membership. Access to previously unreleased stuff or some signed or exclusive merchandise would make it more worthwhile. I just renewed in Dec so I still have 11 months to decide what to do. If it weren't for the fact that only premium members get the vinyl single then it would be a no brainer. However I might just buy the vinyl single off ebay for the less than $10 I usually see them being sold for.
Give me something substantial for my $40, and I'll gladly pay it. Until then, I might stick with the regular membership.
I don't mind price increases if I feel I'm getting something for my money. In this instance I don't think there is enough to justify the increase. I couldn't care less about a t-shirt or a download of something that is available for purchase by anyone. Other than those two things nothing has changed from what we got with the old membership. Access to previously unreleased stuff or some signed or exclusive merchandise would make it more worthwhile. I just renewed in Dec so I still have 11 months to decide what to do. If it weren't for the fact that only premium members get the vinyl single then it would be a no brainer. However I might just buy the vinyl single off ebay for the less than $10 I usually see them being sold for.
Give me something substantial for my $40, and I'll gladly pay it. Until then, I might stick with the regular membership.
I totally agree..Plus, now they want 40 bucks for shabby service at best..
I agree but I'll take it one step further. It's not "weird", it's misguided. There's a sense here that PJ owes something to us, where I feel that we owe something to them.
Huh? Last time I checked, they would have no careers or money without us. We don't owe them anything. We are the reason Ed is worth $80 million.
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but you don't stay at the same level. things were taken away at the $20 level
But not the most important thing for me which is the chance at those precious lovely 3rd row seats
Second, I like the idea of getting a T-shirt every year. Shipping and handling costs pretty much double the price if ordered regularly.
As for the free bootleg download, I already used mine. It is for any of the bootlegs in the goods section. Just stick in the code you get in the conformation e-mail and proceed to check out. If you want to download the show as an MP3, than it is free. If you want it as a FLAC it will give you $10 off.
Even though my membership was good until Dec 15 2011, I added another year of analog any way.
2010: 9/7/10 - Bilbao
2012: 26-27/6/12 - Amsterdam ~~ 29/6/12 - Werchter ~~ 4-5/7/12 - Berlin
2014: 25/6/14 - Vienna ~~ 26/6/14 - Berlin
$20 and people lose their fucking minds???
$20???
Good grief.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Agree 100%. I don't get it... First of all, I've never been shut out of a show I wanted to go to. I've always had a sneaky suspicion that some people just aren't quite sure how to give themselves the best chance to get tickets. Some have been tougher than others and some have taken more than two hours clicking, but $20 for a very-decent pre-sale chance (and basically a 100% chance for all non-major shows) and static number/seat along with a few minor yearly perks sounds very reasonable to me. As people have posted, the Bon Jovi prices are quite high. You get a bit more, but I have a coworker that spends $3,000 a show on a VIP package that isn't all that amazing. Prices have gone up for PJ tickets to between $70-$80 each and as far as I'm concerned that's so much better than they could be. Other acts that have been around for 20 years charge 3-4 times that just to be in the building. With 10c not only am I in the building but I'm usually better off than the Ticketmaster purchasers.
Frankly, I'm thankful the price of 10c hasn't had a mandatory increase for all. I find it hardly to believe that some people would prefer that to this option, basically only because they won't get a free 45, which certainly is very nice to get as late as it usually is. But does that define your PJ membership and experience? If it does I think you better question your motives. How is an option bad? Yes, I agree that the $20 package is now slightly less valuable. Slightly being the key word there. Everyone has no trouble writing off what the ARE getting from the yearly fee and concentrating on what is lost. Frankly, this is a bit immature.
Concerning Eddie's and PJ's wealth, they're 100% entitled to it. Not only that, they could be spoon-feeding you money-making propositions for the rest of their lives with no touring, no new music, etc and live very comfortably. Those who claim that this is about money should take a step back and realize that they have no idea what this is about. Not only that, it's not their responsibility to tell us. We pay for a service and they tell us what we get for that money, not how much of it goes to save turtles or the WM3. It's their money. As one wise person said at some point in this ridiculous thread, "Vote with your dollar."
To you & your Family Have a Great 2011 see you at shows i'm sure , 20$ really
I hear you but i Said For me the most important and only thing i look for is the chance at Tickets that is what got me into this Club way back in the begining the chance to get Tickets , and i do feel for you that the band hasn't played in your neck of the woods ...Maybe they will sometime
99% of the people here, are in this club, for the precious tickets........
PERIOD!!!!
Well that, and to flip posters on the website, even though that is supposedly not allowed....
hehehehehe
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
+1
agree, only been a member for a month or so (since November 2010)
vinyl doesn't matter to me, things like tshirts and that stuff, i don't care about them. I don't need a tshirt or a key ring or a sticker to prove that I love this band's music. Sure it's nice, and I have bought a tshirt, but it isn't something I'd miss if I didn't have it.
Regardless of what membership you choose, You'll still have the
MUSIC
which is the mother to all of this, the most important thing of all.
Plus presale tickets to shows - I know some people are affected by it, but many people have been and by the looks and sounds of it have got amazing seats. Which is awesome. Better than a lot of the other bands out there.
Plus access to this community, to communicate and connect with fans all over the world - pretty cool.
I sympathize with people who like the vinyl and stuff, and who don't want to pay more. I really do and I'm all for people voicing their opinions, saying what they believe and standing up for something. We shouldn't just take things lying down, even if it is stuff from our favourite band. I get it.
But I just think people need to calm down, remember what it's all about. What Pearl Jam actually means to you.
Music.
Happy New Year Rico!
agree with what you said there ^
3 Decibels Doubles the Volume
2006
$20 is not the issue. I wonder if PJ realizes that they fan club they so dearly love and talk of, is the one and only reason that some fans are not listening to the the music anymore.
It was fun for a while though.
are you?
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Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Thanks, happy new year!!!!
Eddie Vedder- 7/16/11
Brad- 4/21/12 (RSD Performance), 4/27/12, 8/10/12
Flight To Mars- 5/23/12
RNDM- 11/27/12
PEARL JAM- 12/6/13 I have finally seen Pearl Jam live!
At the VERY least, I hope 10c doesn't go & put the analog membership t-shirt up for sale on the website, or anywhere else for that matter. PLEASE give ppl who are paying for the upgrade the peace of mind that this is an exclusive t-shirt, each year. If I see my cousin walking around in the same shirt, that she bought at Target just cause she "liked all the pretty colors," I might just have a fucking meltdown. And for fuck's sake, please tell me they will ask our sizes when we renew. If this is the only "upgrade" I'm getting in the "upgrade," I sure as hell wanna be able to wear it (if it ain't shit-ass ugly).
OK, I've said my piece.
I joined last summer and have had nothing from 10c yet at all, but I have made some amazing friendships and learned more about my favorite band...so I'm a happy camper! Don't stand a chance with the tix, but that's my lot for joining so late....I've known about PJ since '92 :?
http://www.supermansammyz.blogspot.com
The one thing that bothers me is the lack of effort put into the new packages. If you want to up the renewal fee by $25 (international) that's fine. $50 is still lower than a lot of other fan clubs. But it would be nice to see them come up with something awesome. This is the 20th anniversary. You're telling me, no one in the 10c offices could come up with something more appealing that a t-shirt?
+1
I'm not gonna argue with anyone which level is better and if those changes are good or bad, everyone has right to have opinion
I understand that people are quitting fan club if they don't like the rules anymore but why they don't listening to music anymore? Stop listening to music if you don't like the fan club is just.... weird.
Too bad you decided to quit, hope your love to music will stay strong
Anyway happy new year everyone, hope it will be even better than 2010 for you all!!!
Who's to say something isn't planned? I think that's something that should be judged after the fact. At the end of the year if nothing is done I think your point is valid.
I agree but I'll take it one step further. It's not "weird", it's misguided. There's a sense here that PJ owes something to us, where I feel that we owe something to them.
+1 hope 2011 will bring us another Euro tour
If this interesting...What do you feel that we owe to the band?....
Give me something substantial for my $40, and I'll gladly pay it. Until then, I might stick with the regular membership.
I totally agree..Plus, now they want 40 bucks for shabby service at best..
Jeremy
Huh? Last time I checked, they would have no careers or money without us. We don't owe them anything. We are the reason Ed is worth $80 million.
Has this been confirmed yet?
Losing seniority would be a big deal.