** TEN CLUB ANALOG AND DIGITAL MEMBERSHIPS **

pjl44

Bentleyspop wrote:

hrd2imgn wrote:

get over it people, they acted on several suggestions that the membership give more, and have more options. so Now you got em stop complaining!

You can do exactly what you did before and nothing changes, or pay 20 more and get more cool free stuff and opportunities. It is a paid club, not a free entitlement. This is not The US government where they give you everything for free for doing nothing, or even being a member

Really? You had to go there??

Are you Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity? or maybe even Glenn Beck or Ann Coulter?

wait wait I know.....

You're Bill O'Reilly

Just when things couldn't get snippier, out of nowhere it's...

...Politics!

Better Dan

ontheroad wrote:

You guys certainly have the right to bitch and moan about a band and fan club that for 20 years has done more for their fans than any other band in history.

I think this is the funniest thing I've read on this board. Done more for their fans than any other band in history? WOW! They are a great band and have written amazing music but I don't get it..you act as if they were your friends. I want whatever kool-aid this guy is drinking!

Better Dan

hopethatuchoke wrote:

ontheroad wrote:

You guys certainly have the right to bitch and moan about a band and fan club that for 20 years has done more for their fans than any other band in history. you are just wrong for doing so.

What have they done for us exactly? Why do some people around here seem to think that Pearl Jam are the most righteous and amazing thing that has ever existed?

I love the band's music and enjoy being a member of the 10Club, but also can't understand that. They put on great shows for the fans and I think they care about the fans, I think the band/and the 10C tries to do whats best for both their business and the fans when making decisions, but I still don't understand this "all they have done for us" attitude towards the band or the 10 club. They do have the PJ Radio stations which are cool..but we'll have to pay for the website version in the future so it won't really be given to us. Hell, we even have to pay to post on the band's official fan community!

Yes, they've given us great music but so have countless other bands.

CrookedLittleVein

Pls check this week's Top 10 in the GOODS Section.

Hmmmm.... what does that say?

BLAKEALIVE

VoidOfMan wrote:

Ahh shoot, I renewed my membership before it expired on the 5th of January. Will I be able to pay the extra $20 to upgrade to analog?

have payed memebrship fee mid dec, can i upgrade now. dont want to miss out on goods......

haffajappa

i_lov_it wrote:

I'm STILL waiting on my "DEEP" magazine from Last Year!... :roll:

Same here!

dimitrispearljam

i like the idea..seems cool..im going analog,but im waiting for 10c to answer my mail..i dont understand how this works,cos my membership is current till November 2022,so wait to let me know what need to do,,im analog,digital,?need to pay the difference for those years .etc..

Spags

I'm confused, I paid up a year in advance (so I wouldn't miss renewing) so am I on digital or Analog? Not sure putting up the price is the best way to celebrate 20 years of the band... I do like the Holiday singles and Deep hardcopy though...but then a pdf/mp3 version would be available way in advance of the physical copies right? So maybe we wouldn't see the Holiday single late summer in the future? Never see the benefits of pre-ticket sales as they are snapped up before I get a look in, same with the official giveaways too...doesn't look like they are gonna be touring for a while yet anyways? Hmmm, I guess I'll have to think about this a bit more, shame though.

In short - I FEAR CHANGE!!!!

Heineken Helen

Umbertotamba wrote:

Come on, now one of you disgruntled people need to contact me about that Benaroya Vinyl you need to get rid of in disgust!!

I'll sell ya mine for $500... after all, what's another $460 to ya? Besides, everything goes up, right? And if you want it that bad you'll just pay it and shut up otherwise stop begging... it's pathetic

Heineken Helen

AmherstJammer wrote:

People are still worked up over two membership options that cost pennies a day..

Those pennies a day could save a kids life in Africa. People like you, laughing at money in times of recession and people killing themselves over losing everything, are making me even more disgusted about the whole thing. I'm not sure my 'seniority' on a 405xxx membership is worth it anymore... I renew in February and there's a good chance I might be out.

Chrisilein

Paulina87 wrote:

SpinTheBlackCircle74 wrote:

Analog all the way, and I think its time to give us some 2011 tour dates.

+1 hope 2011 will bring us another Euro tour

+2! Perfect timing to take the analog membership as mine expires at the end of January!

LBC

You pay your money, you take the choice.

Chill!

dimitrispearljam

Leeze wrote:

I read all those posts and try to understand the different opinions. Yes, changes can be hard to take but I am here because I love the band and their music. I got to know lots of really nice people on these boards and I really enjoy talking to people from all over the world who share my love for PJ. You can decide which membership fits you best, so what's the deal? I don't have decided yet which option I'll choose. I am happily looking forward to anything that'll come our way from PJ this year and I am thankful for anything I'll get. I think even 50 dollars is still okay, it's annual, not monthly. Considering all the money I spend on things that I don't care that much about it's okay for me to pay this amount. And even if it weren't for that, I am not forced to pay it. It's up to me to decide. But maybe it would have been better if they just raised the membership cost for 5-10 dollars and just kept one version of memberships
A happy new year for everyone!

exactly this....only for the friends i made for life via 10c im ok with the this changing..you cant put a price on that..

boyo79

I don't for a second believe all the folk complaining about this saying they won't renew their memberships or they won't like Pearl Jam no more. Course you will. Time to renew comes and you'll go for the analog, get your vinyl single through and your new t-shirt and you'll be happy.

Everyone on here loves to complain and wants everything for free. I tell you, the band could announce that the next album would be given away for free and you'd still complain

boyo79

CrookedLittleVein wrote:

Pls check this week's Top 10 in the GOODS Section.

Hmmmm.... what does that say?

US Analog membership 1st and Int'l Analog membership 3rd. Guess folk aren't THAT unhappy then are they!!?!?

Heineken Helen

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Leeze wrote:

I read all those posts and try to understand the different opinions. Yes, changes can be hard to take but I am here because I love the band and their music. I got to know lots of really nice people on these boards and I really enjoy talking to people from all over the world who share my love for PJ. You can decide which membership fits you best, so what's the deal? I don't have decided yet which option I'll choose. I am happily looking forward to anything that'll come our way from PJ this year and I am thankful for anything I'll get. I think even 50 dollars is still okay, it's annual, not monthly. Considering all the money I spend on things that I don't care that much about it's okay for me to pay this amount. And even if it weren't for that, I am not forced to pay it. It's up to me to decide. But maybe it would have been better if they just raised the membership cost for 5-10 dollars and just kept one version of memberships
A happy new year for everyone!

exactly this....only for the friends i made for life via 10c im ok with the this changing..you cant put a price on that..

Good point... although I made my friends when the board was free and I wasn't a member of the 10C I probably wouldn't have made those friends had there been a price on the board.

Heineken Helen

boyo79 wrote:

I don't for a second believe all the folk complaining about this saying they won't renew their memberships or they won't like Pearl Jam no more. Course you will. Time to renew comes and you'll go for the analog, get your vinyl single through and your new t-shirt and you'll be happy.

Everyone on here loves to complain and wants everything for free. I tell you, the band could announce that the next album would be given away for free and you'd still complain

I can assure you I will NOT be going for the analog... no WAY could I justify that money. As for the digital, well we'll see if I can be bothered but right now I'm siding towards no. This is one more thing I can probably do without!

BryanWeb

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SoonForgotten2

There are people on here that really make me sick. Heaven forbid there be a discussion about value and whether or not something is fair without those engaging in it being called names or looked down upon. It also goes to show why the economy is so fucked in the first place, as so many people clearly do not understand the concept of value. Yes, this may "just" be $40, but imagine if everything you bought went up 100% overnight. Everything is creeping up, except most salaries and job opportunities. Sure, I can afford $40 for a mostly pointless package of shit I don't need. I can also afford a lot of things for $100 or $1000, but after awhile I stop being able to afford everything if I take that approach. But better to do it that way than to be labeled a whiner here by the d-bag elitist fans.

For those who renewed in advance, there's no way 10C can take away your vinyl and hardcopy Deeps so long as they're still being produced. You paid for memberships that included them. They cannot say "Well, now you have to pay us even more if you want those". They have to honour their end of the deal, otherwise they should have never allowed for multiple years renewal. And I really hope people who are years ahead really don't pay extra for a t-shirt they cannot select and a download they can get elsewhere for free. Because I do fear many would do so just to be able to call themselves analog, which is sad.

And please, can we all stop pretending that Pearl Jam and Ten Club are some sort of religious charity? If you're not stealing their music, you owe them nothing. Pearl Jam Inc is a business and as the customers we have a right to discuss their business model. I'm tired of this word "fan" because, quite frankly, when was the last time Pearl Jam Inc treated us like fans instead of customers?

BLACK35

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

There are people on here that really make me sick. Heaven forbid there be a discussion about value and whether or not something is fair without those engaging in it being called names or looked down upon. It also goes to show why the economy is so fucked in the first place, as so many people clearly do not understand the concept of value. Yes, this may "just" be $40, but imagine if everything you bought went up 100% overnight. Everything is creeping up, except most salaries and job opportunities. Sure, I can afford $40 for a mostly pointless package of shit I don't need. I can also afford a lot of things for $100 or $1000, but after awhile I stop being able to afford everything if I take that approach. But better to do it that way than to be labeled a whiner here by the d-bag elitist fans.

For those who renewed in advance, there's no way 10C can take away your vinyl and hardcopy Deeps so long as they're still being produced. You paid for memberships that included them. They cannot say "Well, now you have to pay us even more if you want those". They have to honour their end of the deal, otherwise they should have never allowed for multiple years renewal. And I really hope people who are years ahead really don't pay extra for a t-shirt they cannot select and a download they can get elsewhere for free. Because I do fear many would do so just to be able to call themselves analog, which is sad.

And please, can we all stop pretending that Pearl Jam and Ten Club are some sort of religious charity? If you're not stealing their music, you owe them nothing. Pearl Jam Inc is a business and as the customers we have a right to discuss their business model. I'm tired of this word "fan" because, quite frankly, when was the last time Pearl Jam Inc treated us like fans instead of customers?

Well said

William Wallace

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

There are people on here that really make me sick.
.......

Well said, I agree 100% with you.

William Wallace

boyo79 wrote:

I don't for a second believe all the folk complaining about this saying they won't renew their memberships or they won't like Pearl Jam no more. Course you will. Time to renew comes and you'll go for the analog, get your vinyl single through and your new t-shirt and you'll be happy.

Everyone on here loves to complain and wants everything for free. I tell you, the band could announce that the next album would be given away for free and you'd still complain

I definitely won't renew, you can count on it.
Since the x-mas single is the only thing I really care about in the package, there is no way I'll pay $50 for it.
No one said they won't like Pearl Jam anymore because of this.

I, like most of the others here, don't want everything for free (except what was promised, but what we never got...). I'm glad to pay for stuff the band releases, because most of the time, it's great stuff.
But in my eyes, the new membership deals are pretty shitty. They were created to maximize profit, not to please the fans. There is nothing innovative about these deals, what is really sad. They could have taken a look at other fanclubs for ideas. Missed opportunity.

William Wallace

double post

youngster

How much you wanna bet the "limited edition" shirts are the stickman, Black, or 2008 tour T-shirts?

Yeah, they are limited. Limited to 6 million. :roll:

False_Belief

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

There are people on here that really make me sick. Heaven forbid there be a discussion about value and whether or not something is fair without those engaging in it being called names or looked down upon. It also goes to show why the economy is so fucked in the first place, as so many people clearly do not understand the concept of value. Yes, this may "just" be $40, but imagine if everything you bought went up 100% overnight. Everything is creeping up, except most salaries and job opportunities. Sure, I can afford $40 for a mostly pointless package of shit I don't need. I can also afford a lot of things for $100 or $1000, but after awhile I stop being able to afford everything if I take that approach. But better to do it that way than to be labeled a whiner here by the d-bag elitist fans.

For those who renewed in advance, there's no way 10C can take away your vinyl and hardcopy Deeps so long as they're still being produced. You paid for memberships that included them. They cannot say "Well, now you have to pay us even more if you want those". They have to honour their end of the deal, otherwise they should have never allowed for multiple years renewal. And I really hope people who are years ahead really don't pay extra for a t-shirt they cannot select and a download they can get elsewhere for free. Because I do fear many would do so just to be able to call themselves analog, which is sad.

And please, can we all stop pretending that Pearl Jam and Ten Club are some sort of religious charity? If you're not stealing their music, you owe them nothing. Pearl Jam Inc is a business and as the customers we have a right to discuss their business model. I'm tired of this word "fan" because, quite frankly, when was the last time Pearl Jam Inc treated us like fans instead of customers?

^^^ Sense well and truly spoken.

theoceansmademe

After reading many of the post, I agree with those who feel the prices are getting out of hand.

For me, like many, it not an issue of affordability, I have worked hard and now I am able to afford most items I want.

For me it's the principle. PJ has always sounded out against greed. Some of their lyrics no longer have meaning.

The defense that they have worked hard and can do as they please doesn't hold. That is greed.

There are many other bands out there with free memberships. Cake for one. I will attend a show this spring at the 9:30 Club in DC. A great small venue, that Pearl Jam will never play because of greed.

It sucks when something you believed in changes so much.

But like EV said, "Cause friends they come and go
People change as does everything"

Umbertotamba

Heineken Helen wrote:

Umbertotamba wrote:

Come on, now one of you disgruntled people need to contact me about that Benaroya Vinyl you need to get rid of in disgust!!

I'll sell ya mine for $500... after all, what's another $460 to ya? Besides, everything goes up, right? And if you want it that bad you'll just pay it and shut up otherwise stop begging... it's pathetic

Hahahaha $460 is alot more than $20 but I will be will to give someone an extra $20 so they can upgrade to analog!

Jammalambo

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

There are people on here that really make me sick. Heaven forbid there be a discussion about value and whether or not something is fair without those engaging in it being called names or looked down upon. It also goes to show why the economy is so fucked in the first place, as so many people clearly do not understand the concept of value. Yes, this may "just" be $40, but imagine if everything you bought went up 100% overnight. Everything is creeping up, except most salaries and job opportunities. Sure, I can afford $40 for a mostly pointless package of shit I don't need. I can also afford a lot of things for $100 or $1000, but after awhile I stop being able to afford everything if I take that approach. But better to do it that way than to be labeled a whiner here by the d-bag elitist fans.

For those who renewed in advance, there's no way 10C can take away your vinyl and hardcopy Deeps so long as they're still being produced. You paid for memberships that included them. They cannot say "Well, now you have to pay us even more if you want those". They have to honour their end of the deal, otherwise they should have never allowed for multiple years renewal. And I really hope people who are years ahead really don't pay extra for a t-shirt they cannot select and a download they can get elsewhere for free. Because I do fear many would do so just to be able to call themselves analog, which is sad.

And please, can we all stop pretending that Pearl Jam and Ten Club are some sort of religious charity? If you're not stealing their music, you owe them nothing. Pearl Jam Inc is a business and as the customers we have a right to discuss their business model. I'm tired of this word "fan" because, quite frankly, when was the last time Pearl Jam Inc treated us like fans instead of customers?

I agree 100% with this, these are my same thoughts..
For the blind so called fans that always say "stop whining, you're a bunch of crybabies, if you don't like it don't buy it, ecc.." , well ask yourself why Ten Club, particularly in the recent years, gets a load of complaints.. maybe because the service provided isn't the best, lack of information, promises said and never honored?
My intl membership from 25 dollars is going up to 50 dollars (the double) and I'm not getting ANYTHING more, because I already have all the boots and don't care about shirts (expecially if I can't choose them).. ah yes, there's the digital option, which gives you absolutely NOTHING (and don't tell me otherwise, you know it's the truth) except ticket privileges that for an intl member are not so simple to get.. look at the number of negative responses on here, it's not like I'm saying that the majority is always right, but if you get a shitloads of complaints like the ones in this thread, you should seriously reconsider the way you're doing things.. I'm not surprised that anyone from Ten Club has come here to give more explanations or just say "shut the fuck up", that's another of the great services they provide: COMMUNICATION

Jo

I just got back from Chrissy holidays thinking Santa didn't exist, only to come here and read THIS!

- no more whinging on the Forums about not getting anything for thier money.
They can just get "Goodies" membership and fuck off
I'm STOKED!! :P

jm257212

Why is it so wrong to question value on here? if your cable bill doubled overnight and all you got in return was a channel you might not ever watch, would you just except it??? i know we only talking 20$ difference and no, it is not huge sum of money.. But why is it so wrong to expect some kind of service or offer for double my cost?? That being said, i think the ball is 10C's court now !! lets see what we are offered for doubling our cost! I'm going to give it a try and see what offers are sent our way in the upcoming year..

i am cautiously optimistic :roll:
happy new year