For the person thinking about a Ten Club membership, $20 is not much at all. Someone who is that hard up for money is not going to join the Pearl Jam fan club for $20 to make sure they get their holiday single. People join the fan club for the option to buy $80 concert tickets. The membership allows you to buy more stuff, not get a ton of value back.
CD's are $12. Vinyl records are $20. Dinner for two is $25 at the cheapest sit down restaurants. $20 is not a lot of money! Think about how many times a year you spend $20 on something? It would be a long list.
That's presuming people BUY CD's, vinyls or dinner for two!
For many people, the only time they spend $20 in a year is on the PJ fan club!
Oh for god's sake Helen, we're talking about a luxury item. This is not health care or the price of milk and rice. It a rock and roll fan club. If it is worth it to you, so be it. If it is not, oh well. It is not a life changing decision.
If someone's only luxury item all year is spending $20 on the Ten Club membership, then i would say those people have their morals and values a little out of whack.
For the person thinking about a Ten Club membership, $20 is not much at all. Someone who is that hard up for money is not going to join the Pearl Jam fan club for $20 to make sure they get their holiday single. People join the fan club for the option to buy $80 concert tickets. The membership allows you to buy more stuff, not get a ton of value back.
CD's are $12. Vinyl records are $20. Dinner for two is $25 at the cheapest sit down restaurants. $20 is not a lot of money! Think about how many times a year you spend $20 on something? It would be a long list.
That's presuming people BUY CD's, vinyls or dinner for two!
For many people, the only time they spend $20 in a year is on the PJ fan club!
Oh for god's sake Helen, we're talking about a luxury item. This is not health care or the price of milk and rice. It a rock and roll fan club. If it is worth it to you, so be it. If it is not, oh well. It is not a life changing decision.
If someone's only luxury item all year is spending $20 on the Ten Club membership, then i would say those people have their morals and values a little out of whack.
I did actually say it's a luxury item... and it may be their only luxury item... and, if it is, what the hell is it to you? And what other LUXURY items should they buy? Since when did luxury items become necessities? :roll:
Why does it bother you so much that some people might actually SPLASH OUT on a stupid little fan club membership? What do they do now when they don't actually get anything physical for it?
Just cos $20 is nothing to you, no need to rub that in everyones faces ... pathetic!
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It's funny that ten club members create free giveaways. Can't Ten Club do this?
I find it pathetic that in a fan club, it's the members that give away free swag.
The Ten Club doesn't need friends as bad as people on here do.
For the person thinking about a Ten Club membership, $20 is not much at all. Someone who is that hard up for money is not going to join the Pearl Jam fan club for $20 to make sure they get their holiday single. People join the fan club for the option to buy $80 concert tickets. The membership allows you to buy more stuff, not get a ton of value back.
CD's are $12. Vinyl records are $20. Dinner for two is $25 at the cheapest sit down restaurants. $20 is not a lot of money! Think about how many times a year you spend $20 on something? It would be a long list.
That's presuming people BUY CD's, vinyls or dinner for two!
For many people, the only time they spend $20 in a year is on the PJ fan club!
Oh for god's sake Helen, we're talking about a luxury item. This is not health care or the price of milk and rice. It a rock and roll fan club. If it is worth it to you, so be it. If it is not, oh well. It is not a life changing decision.
If someone's only luxury item all year is spending $20 on the Ten Club membership, then i would say those people have their morals and values a little out of whack.
You insensitive people drive me nuts and it's the reason why PJ fans seem to be nothing but rich, rich, rich. I could afford the $20/ year, but I can NOT afford rising membership prices on top of $90 tickets. I seem to remember the band being about affordability towards their fans. Not anymore! Now it's all about being elite.
I love this band and I will renew with a smile for $40. I don't understand those saying they cant afford 10 cents a day or will not renew because they are not getting enough for the extra money. I shut off my cable and Internet at home to save money for the chance to see the band this year. I could not imagine life without Pearl Jam and I will continue to enjoy everything they have to offer.
That's presuming people BUY CD's, vinyls or dinner for two!
For many people, the only time they spend $20 in a year is on the PJ fan club!
Oh for god's sake Helen, we're talking about a luxury item. This is not health care or the price of milk and rice. It a rock and roll fan club. If it is worth it to you, so be it. If it is not, oh well. It is not a life changing decision.
If someone's only luxury item all year is spending $20 on the Ten Club membership, then i would say those people have their morals and values a little out of whack.
You insensitive people drive me nuts and it's the reason why PJ fans seem to be nothing but rich, rich, rich. I could afford the $20/ year, but I can NOT afford rising membership prices on top of $90 tickets. I seem to remember the band being about affordability towards their fans. Not anymore! Now it's all about being elite.
I can afford it too... I can even afford the elitist analog thing... BUT in the past couple of years I have seen people lose houses, I know of people who killed themselves cos they've lost everything... I've seen people lose their families and I've seen countless people lose their jobs (that doesn't even seem to matter anymore)... so a stupid fan club membership? Really? They can double their prices with all this going on? Well good for them! I'll be putting away every penny I have and not looking down at money and saying it's worthless!
It's only worthless when you have it! :oops:
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
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Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I am all for people sharing their opinions respectfully but the people saying "it's just $20 and pennies a day!" make me sick. You are so pretentious. It's not about the dollar amount, it's the principal. They have jacked the price up to twice what it was. Now you are paying $20 extra for a a "free" tshirt that costs a few bucks to manufacture and a bootleg download that costs them nothing to provide you. The digital membership has transitioned into nothing but a $20 service/connivence charge to buy tickets and exclusive merchandise that isn't even discounted. You are crazy if you don't think it is nothing more than a service charge for buying tickets and we are FORCED to be a member if we want a shot at any decent seats. I know they play it off as doing us a favor providing tickets but they are charging for the privilege of buying tickets, just like Ticketmaster does. On top of that, a $3 Ten Club ticket processing fee was added last year to "cover credit card costs". Our $20 a year couldn't cover those?
Can I afford an extra $20? Yeah I can. Does $20 mean a lot more to me and everyone here than the band? Absolutely. This is all about greed, not inflation as some are claiming. What can the overhead of a fan club possibly be? It's a warehouse with merchandise and occasional ticket sales. They don't manufacture anything. They take orders for what, less that 75 items on their website?? and they ship them out. They don't even ship the bootlegs.
Very well said!
I already forgot about the $3 Tenclub ticket fee. The club is really creative when it comes to milking the cow.
I love this band and I will renew with a smile for $40. I don't understand those saying they cant afford 10 cents a day or will not renew because they are not getting enough for the extra money. I shut off my cable and Internet at home to save money for the chance to see the band this year. I could not imagine life without Pearl Jam and I will continue to enjoy everything they have to offer.
this post makes me sad
i can honestly say that cable and facebook/porn bring me more enjoyment than the 10C ever could
speaking of which... "full access to the website" could be made a little more enticing :twisted:
I can afford it too... I can even afford the elitist analog thing... BUT in the past couple of years I have seen people lose houses, I know of people who killed themselves cos they've lost everything... I've seen people lose their families and I've seen countless people lose their jobs (that doesn't even seem to matter anymore)... so a stupid fan club membership? Really? They can double their prices with all this going on? Well good for them! I'll be putting away every penny I have and not looking down at money and saying it's worthless!
It's only worthless when you have it!
It is not a matter of anyone saying the money is worthless. It has EVERYTHING to do with if it is worth it TO YOU.
It is worth it to me, maybe it is not to some others, and that is, okay.
What I am hearing from you is just because there is poor people in the world, and people down on hard times, means there shouldn't be any increase on any luxury item anywhere in the world out of concern for the downtrodden.
Save it. People are where they are at, and they have to make decisions based upon those facts. Make the decision and move on with life. Enough with the dramatics already.
You insensitive people drive me nuts and it's the reason why PJ fans seem to be nothing but rich, rich, rich. I could afford the $20/ year, but I can NOT afford rising membership prices on top of $90 tickets. I seem to remember the band being about affordability towards their fans. Not anymore! Now it's all about being elite.
I can afford it too... I can even afford the elitist analog thing... BUT in the past couple of years I have seen people lose houses, I know of people who killed themselves cos they've lost everything... I've seen people lose their families and I've seen countless people lose their jobs (that doesn't even seem to matter anymore)... so a stupid fan club membership? Really? They can double their prices with all this going on? Well good for them! I'll be putting away every penny I have and not looking down at money and saying it's worthless!
It's only worthless when you have it! :oops:
Thanks Helen, my post was directed at Animal though. He's being extremely righteous here. :roll:
You insensitive people drive me nuts and it's the reason why PJ fans seem to be nothing but rich, rich, rich. I could afford the $20/ year, but I can NOT afford rising membership prices on top of $90 tickets. I seem to remember the band being about affordability towards their fans. Not anymore! Now it's all about being elite.
I can afford it too... I can even afford the elitist analog thing... BUT in the past couple of years I have seen people lose houses, I know of people who killed themselves cos they've lost everything... I've seen people lose their families and I've seen countless people lose their jobs (that doesn't even seem to matter anymore)... so a stupid fan club membership? Really? They can double their prices with all this going on? Well good for them! I'll be putting away every penny I have and not looking down at money and saying it's worthless!
It's only worthless when you have it! :oops:
Thanks Helen, my post was directed at Animal though. He's being extremely righteous here. :roll:
It is not a matter of anyone saying the money is worthless. It has EVERYTHING to do with if it is worth it TO YOU.
It is worth it to me, maybe it is not to some others, and that is, okay.
What I am hearing from you is just because there is poor people in the world, and people down on hard times, means there shouldn't be any increase on any luxury item anywhere in the world out of concern for the downtrodden.
Save it. People are where they are at, and they have to make decisions based upon those facts. Make the decision and move on with life. Enough with the dramatics already.
Yes I WILL save it thanks! I will make the decision and move on with life but if there is a price increase that is not justified I will fucking complain about it thank you very much... or would you rather we all just shut up and pretend it didn't happen? :? Cos THAT ain't gonna happen!
There are NO dramatics... you HAVE the money... you don't CARE about money... you will SPEND the money... that's fine... I get it... enough with the drama and move on with life and let us complain about the things that WE'RE not happy about... k? :roll:
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I can afford it too... I can even afford the elitist analog thing... BUT in the past couple of years I have seen people lose houses, I know of people who killed themselves cos they've lost everything... I've seen people lose their families and I've seen countless people lose their jobs (that doesn't even seem to matter anymore)... so a stupid fan club membership? Really? They can double their prices with all this going on? Well good for them! I'll be putting away every penny I have and not looking down at money and saying it's worthless!
It's only worthless when you have it! :oops:
Thanks Helen, my post was directed at Animal though. He's being extremely righteous here. :roll:
No more than a lot of the martyrs here.
are people complaining about you spending 20 dollars here? no, people are crying because some people are asking why they should pay and why the band feels the need to double the price and add less value. and calling those people cheap whiners because the fee is only "a few cents a day", which is a ridiculous statement.
Yes I WILL save it thanks! I will make the decision and move on with life but if there is a price increase that is not justified I will fucking complain about it thank you very much... or would you rather we all just shut up and pretend it didn't happen? :? Cos THAT ain't gonna happen!
There are NO dramatics... you HAVE the money... you don't CARE about money... you will SPEND the money... that's fine... I get it... enough with the drama and move on with life and let us complain about the things that WE'RE not happy about... k? :roll:
BUT in the past couple of years I have seen people lose houses, I know of people who killed themselves cos they've lost everything... I've seen people lose their families and I've seen countless people lose their jobs (that doesn't even seem to matter anymore)
What did that have to do with any of this except to dramatize the situation?
Ok, for those not understanding why people are upset let's take a look - This is also directed at people who say the 10C does so much for us.
Digital Membership - $20.00
Full Website Access - We have to pay to post on the band's official forums. Doesn't seem like 10C is really giving us so much here.
PJ Radio Access (Streaming only) - Ok, this costs them and not sure if "rob" is a 10C employee or not, but they may need more income for his salary
Holiday Single MP3 - Available for free every year at a number of PJ fan sites and youtube. Without a physical copy, this is what any non member can already get for free.
Deep Magazine PDF - Magazines only come once a year and rarely have relevant info. PDF files will also be available for free for any non member that wants it - so again nothing really special.
Members-only Merch Discount Events - Again, nothing exciting to me, discounts on the merch that's already available. Its also not really a discount if we have to pay to be able to take a discount.
Access to Members-only Merch - Usually limited to posters. The shipping costs on all items in the goods are also a rip off, and many times we can't combine products and end up having to pay extra shipping.
Access to Fan Club only Ticket pre-sales - This is the only real benefit, IMO - and it is a very good one. If you have a good 10C number, than the 20 dollars is more than worth it for this alone. My number isn't very good and even I've been very very very happy with the tickets I have been distributed. However, as the band doesn't tour frequently or in many places anymore, fans in certain regions of the USA and world would be paying $20 for what exactly? I'm fortunate in that I can and will travel to see the band so paying $20 or $40 for my fan club number and a few other goodies is worth it to me, but not everyone can travel.
I have some hardcore Pearl Jam friends in Texas who can't travel to see the band - so if they want to continue paying $20 dollars, and the band continues to skip us, they are literally getting nothing for their money.
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Ok, for those not understanding why people are upset let's take a look - This is also directed at people who say the 10C does so much for us.
Digital Membership - $20.00
Full Website Access - We have to pay to post on the band's official forums. Doesn't seem like 10C is really giving us so much here.
PJ Radio Access (Streaming only) - Ok, this costs them and not sure if "rob" is a 10C employee or not, but they may need more income for his salary
Holiday Single MP3 - Available for free every year at a number of PJ fan sites and youtube. Without a physical copy, this is what any non member can already get for free.
Deep Magazine PDF - Magazines only come once a year and rarely have relevant info. PDF files will also be available for free for any non member that wants it - so again nothing really special.
Members-only Merch Discount Events - Again, nothing exciting to me, discounts on the merch that's already available. Its also not really a discount if we have to pay to be able to take a discount.
Access to Members-only Merch - Usually limited to posters. The shipping costs on all items in the goods are also a rip off, and many times we can't combine products and end up having to pay extra shipping.
Access to Fan Club only Ticket pre-sales - This is the only real benefit, IMO - and it is a very good one. If you have a good 10C number, than the 20 dollars is more than worth it for this alone. My number isn't very good and even I've been very very very happy with the tickets I have been distributed. However, as the band doesn't tour frequently or in many places anymore, fans in certain regions of the USA and world would be paying $20 for what exactly? I'm fortunate in that I can and will travel to see the band so paying $20 or $40 for my fan club number and a few other goodies is worth it to me, but not everyone can travel.
I have some hardcore Pearl Jam friends in Texas who can't travel to see the band - so if they want to continue paying $20 dollars, and the band continues to skip us, they are literally getting nothing for their money.
All good points but just a further point about your comments re: the holiday single. People from outside the fan club downloading it for free are stealing and the person/s from within this club who are putting it out there are also breaking copyright laws. This is meant as a gift to fan club members only, its one of the reasons its not for resale. Letting us download the single is still them giving us a gift.
based on that alone i shouldn't be bitching about 10C dues
they were great to deal with when it came to the contest and i have a beautiful guitar hanging on my wall thanks to it
this is just a separate poor business move that i think needs to be questioned
Ok, for those not understanding why people are upset let's take a look - This is also directed at people who say the 10C does so much for us.
Digital Membership - $20.00
Full Website Access - We have to pay to post on the band's official forums. Doesn't seem like 10C is really giving us so much here.
PJ Radio Access (Streaming only) - Ok, this costs them and not sure if "rob" is a 10C employee or not, but they may need more income for his salary
Holiday Single MP3 - Available for free every year at a number of PJ fan sites and youtube. Without a physical copy, this is what any non member can already get for free.
Deep Magazine PDF - Magazines only come once a year and rarely have relevant info. PDF files will also be available for free for any non member that wants it - so again nothing really special.
Members-only Merch Discount Events - Again, nothing exciting to me, discounts on the merch that's already available. Its also not really a discount if we have to pay to be able to take a discount.
Access to Members-only Merch - Usually limited to posters. The shipping costs on all items in the goods are also a rip off, and many times we can't combine products and end up having to pay extra shipping.
Access to Fan Club only Ticket pre-sales - This is the only real benefit, IMO - and it is a very good one. If you have a good 10C number, than the 20 dollars is more than worth it for this alone. My number isn't very good and even I've been very very very happy with the tickets I have been distributed. However, as the band doesn't tour frequently or in many places anymore, fans in certain regions of the USA and world would be paying $20 for what exactly? I'm fortunate in that I can and will travel to see the band so paying $20 or $40 for my fan club number and a few other goodies is worth it to me, but not everyone can travel.
I have some hardcore Pearl Jam friends in Texas who can't travel to see the band - so if they want to continue paying $20 dollars, and the band continues to skip us, they are literally getting nothing for their money.
All good points but just a further point about your comments re: the holiday single. People from outside the fan club downloading it for free are stealing and the person/s from within this club who are putting it out there are also breaking copyright laws. This is meant as a gift to fan club members only, its one of the reasons its not for resale. Letting us download the single is still them giving us a gift.
i always thought they didnt care about this and considered it like a bootleg? plus, lets face it, many of these arent about quality, hehe. more like a goofy thank you for christmas.
Been a constent member since 1996, and I completely understand the increase. Look forward tp my shirt and bootleg! It will also hold 10C account to being a little more timely with the holiday single, etc. 10C do a great job! Check out other fanclubs around... Metallica is $60, for example. Like it or lump it.
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really no need to continue on with this thread ..... people that are upset will not be convinced otherwise and continue to tell us why they are displeased, people that are pleasantly upbeat about the new system will also continue to post how pleased they are with it and why, so really we're getting nowhere in this thread.......it's just creating hard feelings and generating hostility; really when all is said and done it's just a fan club! There's a lot of people on this board dealing with a lot larger issues in life (serious illness, financial, marital, and all life's other hardships).
For the benefit of all we should move on.
to each their own; the way life should be, do what you wish with your fan club status and a BIG happy new year to all!
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I love this band and I will renew with a smile for $40. I don't understand those saying they cant afford 10 cents a day or will not renew because they are not getting enough for the extra money. I shut off my cable and Internet at home to save money for the chance to see the band this year. I could not imagine life without Pearl Jam and I will continue to enjoy everything they have to offer.
this post makes me sad
i can honestly say that cable and facebook/porn bring me more enjoyment than the 10C ever could
speaking of which... "full access to the website" could be made a little more enticing :twisted:
I am all for people sharing their opinions respectfully but the people saying "it's just $20 and pennies a day!" make me sick. You are so pretentious. It's not about the dollar amount, it's the principal. They have jacked the price up to twice what it was. Now you are paying $20 extra for a a "free" tshirt that costs a few bucks to manufacture and a bootleg download that costs them nothing to provide you. The digital membership has transitioned into nothing but a $20 service/connivence charge to buy tickets and exclusive merchandise that isn't even discounted. You are crazy if you don't think it is nothing more than a service charge for buying tickets and we are FORCED to be a member if we want a shot at any decent seats. I know they play it off as doing us a favor providing tickets but they are charging for the privilege of buying tickets, just like Ticketmaster does. On top of that, a $3 Ten Club ticket processing fee was added last year to "cover credit card costs". Our $20 a year couldn't cover those?
Can I afford an extra $20? Yeah I can. Does $20 mean a lot more to me and everyone here than the band? Absolutely. This is all about greed, not inflation as some are claiming. What can the overhead of a fan club possibly be? It's a warehouse with merchandise and occasional ticket sales. They don't manufacture anything. They take orders for what, less that 75 items on their website?? and they ship them out. They don't even ship the bootlegs.
Great points. I have a "relatively" low number, but over the past 5 years (since they quit doing real tours i.e. 2003=70+ shows), I have only gotten to see them once. This year... I hope I'll get to, but probably won't fit in with life this year. They stopped playing my state in 2000. If they keep doing east coast/west coast only US tours, but going to Europe every other year, etc... well I wanna keep my number active, but it's basically like paying $100 extra for my one show in 5 years to get tickets. (well that was 5 x $20, ha ha)
Personally, I think one of the shittiest things about this deal is that EVERYONE should get the next single on vinyl, PERIOD. The singles are always "late" by a month, 2, 6, whatever... The last single we got was supposed to be the 2009 single, we got it in 2010. 2010's single, which we should be getting soon, should fall under our 2010 "membership benefits," thus everyone should get the vinyl copy. I hope they are honest about that fact and send the 45 to all members who were current through 12/31/10. Then the NEXT single next year should be the MP3 option for the Digitalers.
Not to mention, I'm pretty sure they still owe everyone one more copy of Deep in 2010...
My last bitching point will be that most of the other times in the past, when membership dues increased, they increased in $5 increments, not double the price. It went from $5 to 10, $10 to $15, and $15 to 20. I was expecting it would go up pretty soon, but from $20 to $25. Doubling the price is just a cheese move.
I hope the t-shirt is the greatest fucking shirt design of the last 10 years!!!
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I don't know if it's been mentioned before but there should be a 3rd option:
Tier 3 Membership $5 US/INTERNATIONAL
- Fan Club only Ticket pre-sales
That is all.
And FULL website access during the ticket sales
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really no need to continue on with this thread ..... people that are upset will not be convinced otherwise and continue to tell us why they are displeased, people that are pleasantly upbeat about the new system will also continue to post how pleased they are with it and why, so really we're getting nowhere in this thread.......it's just creating hard feelings and generating hostility; really when all is said and done it's just a fan club! There's a lot of people on this board dealing with a lot larger issues in life (serious illness, financial, marital, and all life's other hardships).
For the benefit of all we should move on.
to each their own; the way life should be, do what you wish with your fan club status and a BIG happy new year to all!
AMEN BRUTHA!!!! We just need to all hug it out!!!
There are two sides to this that no matter how much each side pleads its case the other side gets offended!
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If someone's only luxury item all year is spending $20 on the Ten Club membership, then i would say those people have their morals and values a little out of whack.
Why does it bother you so much that some people might actually SPLASH OUT on a stupid little fan club membership? What do they do now when they don't actually get anything physical for it?
Just cos $20 is nothing to you, no need to rub that in everyones faces ... pathetic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
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Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
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You insensitive people drive me nuts and it's the reason why PJ fans seem to be nothing but rich, rich, rich. I could afford the $20/ year, but I can NOT afford rising membership prices on top of $90 tickets. I seem to remember the band being about affordability towards their fans. Not anymore! Now it's all about being elite.
You DO realise you're basically paying 25 dollars for a t-shirt you dont even want, right?
It's only worthless when you have it! :oops:
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I already forgot about the $3 Tenclub ticket fee. The club is really creative when it comes to milking the cow.
speaking of which... "full access to the website" could be made a little more enticing :twisted:
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It is worth it to me, maybe it is not to some others, and that is, okay.
What I am hearing from you is just because there is poor people in the world, and people down on hard times, means there shouldn't be any increase on any luxury item anywhere in the world out of concern for the downtrodden.
Save it. People are where they are at, and they have to make decisions based upon those facts. Make the decision and move on with life. Enough with the dramatics already.
Thanks Helen, my post was directed at Animal though. He's being extremely righteous here. :roll:
There are NO dramatics... you HAVE the money... you don't CARE about money... you will SPEND the money... that's fine... I get it... enough with the drama and move on with life and let us complain about the things that WE'RE not happy about...
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
What did that have to do with any of this except to dramatize the situation?
Digital Membership - $20.00
Full Website Access - We have to pay to post on the band's official forums. Doesn't seem like 10C is really giving us so much here.
PJ Radio Access (Streaming only) - Ok, this costs them and not sure if "rob" is a 10C employee or not, but they may need more income for his salary
Holiday Single MP3 - Available for free every year at a number of PJ fan sites and youtube. Without a physical copy, this is what any non member can already get for free.
Deep Magazine PDF - Magazines only come once a year and rarely have relevant info. PDF files will also be available for free for any non member that wants it - so again nothing really special.
Members-only Contest Eligibility - Eh, nothing really exciting here.
Members-only Merch Discount Events - Again, nothing exciting to me, discounts on the merch that's already available. Its also not really a discount if we have to pay to be able to take a discount.
Access to Members-only Merch - Usually limited to posters. The shipping costs on all items in the goods are also a rip off, and many times we can't combine products and end up having to pay extra shipping.
Access to Fan Club only Ticket pre-sales - This is the only real benefit, IMO - and it is a very good one. If you have a good 10C number, than the 20 dollars is more than worth it for this alone. My number isn't very good and even I've been very very very happy with the tickets I have been distributed. However, as the band doesn't tour frequently or in many places anymore, fans in certain regions of the USA and world would be paying $20 for what exactly? I'm fortunate in that I can and will travel to see the band so paying $20 or $40 for my fan club number and a few other goodies is worth it to me, but not everyone can travel.
I have some hardcore Pearl Jam friends in Texas who can't travel to see the band - so if they want to continue paying $20 dollars, and the band continues to skip us, they are literally getting nothing for their money.
All good points but just a further point about your comments re: the holiday single. People from outside the fan club downloading it for free are stealing and the person/s from within this club who are putting it out there are also breaking copyright laws. This is meant as a gift to fan club members only, its one of the reasons its not for resale. Letting us download the single is still them giving us a gift.
based on that alone i shouldn't be bitching about 10C dues
they were great to deal with when it came to the contest and i have a beautiful guitar hanging on my wall thanks to it
this is just a separate poor business move that i think needs to be questioned
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For the benefit of all we should move on.
to each their own; the way life should be, do what you wish with your fan club status and a BIG happy new year to all!
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Great points. I have a "relatively" low number, but over the past 5 years (since they quit doing real tours i.e. 2003=70+ shows), I have only gotten to see them once. This year... I hope I'll get to, but probably won't fit in with life this year. They stopped playing my state in 2000. If they keep doing east coast/west coast only US tours, but going to Europe every other year, etc... well I wanna keep my number active, but it's basically like paying $100 extra for my one show in 5 years to get tickets. (well that was 5 x $20, ha ha)
Personally, I think one of the shittiest things about this deal is that EVERYONE should get the next single on vinyl, PERIOD. The singles are always "late" by a month, 2, 6, whatever... The last single we got was supposed to be the 2009 single, we got it in 2010. 2010's single, which we should be getting soon, should fall under our 2010 "membership benefits," thus everyone should get the vinyl copy. I hope they are honest about that fact and send the 45 to all members who were current through 12/31/10. Then the NEXT single next year should be the MP3 option for the Digitalers.
Not to mention, I'm pretty sure they still owe everyone one more copy of Deep in 2010...
My last bitching point will be that most of the other times in the past, when membership dues increased, they increased in $5 increments, not double the price. It went from $5 to 10, $10 to $15, and $15 to 20. I was expecting it would go up pretty soon, but from $20 to $25. Doubling the price is just a cheese move.
I hope the t-shirt is the greatest fucking shirt design of the last 10 years!!!
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Tier 3 Membership $5 US/INTERNATIONAL
- Fan Club only Ticket pre-sales
That is all.
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AMEN BRUTHA!!!! We just need to all hug it out!!!
There are two sides to this that no matter how much each side pleads its case the other side gets offended!
let just move on to something better!!