** TEN CLUB ANALOG AND DIGITAL MEMBERSHIPS **

William Wallace

Jeanwah wrote:

After reading so many pages, I think the final consensus is:

10C Members are rich, rich, RICH!!!

Except me. I cannot afford the $90 ticket prices, and I can't afford $40 memberships. Fans like me are thrown to the curb. Thanks a lot Pearl Jam. From the band who cared so much about being affordable for all their fans, they are now in the elitist group.

Have fun everyone, I won't be renewing this year. Perspectives change, people change (especially Edddie Vedder), and I won't succumb or contribute to the green disease.

I totally agree with you!

A lot of Pearl Jam fans here are selfish people.
Selfish, and forgetful.
Don't you remember what Pearl Jam was about during the first decade of their existence?
They were about having an own opinion, about question decision. About music and concerts being affordable for everyone, also for the 'smal' worker. About great music.
What is left of this? In my eyes and ears, it is only the great music.
They threw a lot of principles over board.

I myself fortunately have no financial problem buying tickets for $85, or spending $50 for a yearly membership.
I have a moral problem with this.
This is the band I loved for their principles, for not backing down.

So everyone who follows the band and their decisions blindly should not forget where this band came from.
Questioning a $50 membership fee, or $85 ticket prices is absolutely understandable concidering the history of Pearl Jam.

P.S.:
The (international) fee for the official R.E.M. Fanclub is $12.

BizzzyBozzzy

William Wallace wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

After reading so many pages, I think the final consensus is:

10C Members are rich, rich, RICH!!!

Except me. I cannot afford the $90 ticket prices, and I can't afford $40 memberships. Fans like me are thrown to the curb. Thanks a lot Pearl Jam. From the band who cared so much about being affordable for all their fans, they are now in the elitist group.

Have fun everyone, I won't be renewing this year. Perspectives change, people change (especially Edddie Vedder), and I won't succumb or contribute to the green disease.

I totally agree with you!

A lot of Pearl Jam fans here are selfish people.
Selfish, and forgetful.
Don't you remember what Pearl Jam was about during the first decade of their existence?
They were about having an own opinion, about question decision. About music and concerts being affordable for everyone, also for the 'smal' worker. About great music.
What is left of this? In my eyes and ears, it is only the great music.
They threw a lot of principles over board.

I myself fortunately have no financial problem buying tickets for $85, or spending $50 for a yearly membership.
I have a moral problem with this.
This is the band I loved for their principles, for not backing down.

So everyone who follows the band and their decisions blindly should not forget where this band came from.
Questioning a $50 membership fee, or $85 ticket prices is absolutely understandable concidering the history of Pearl Jam.

Yet PJ is not raising the price of membership and everyone is going off that they are. They're changing the package you receive for your $20. If not getting a vinyl once a year from PJ is such an affront then in my opinion people need to question why they care about this band.

William Wallace

BizzzyBozzzy wrote:

Yet PJ is not raising the price of membership and everyone is going off that they are. They're changing the package you receive for your $20.

Great changes!
Here is my situation (and the situation of many fans outside the US):
I am a fan from Europe.
Like many others, I'm in the club mostly for the X-mas single.
I don't care abot 10-C tickets since shows in Europe are general admission and getting tix is no problem here.
I couldn't care less for the Deep magazine since it has nothing to say most of the time.
Adding a shirt isn't that great either since I can't chose the artwork and the chances I don't like it are big given the shirt artwork from recent years (of course, some fans will love it regardless if it looks good or crappy, since it's from PJ).
So the package I would receive for my $50 isn't that good in my eyes.

As for the 'basic' new membership deal for $20, I think this is a joke.
You don't get anything physical from that, so the 10-C nearly has no expenses.
For $10, this would be OK. But charging $20 is a joke.

shortstack

QuarterToTen wrote:

shortstack wrote:

QuarterToTen wrote:

The ticketing portion of the membership hasn't changed one bit, or as far as I can tell.

I truly don't see what the big deal is.

Has this been confirmed yet?

Losing seniority would be a big deal.

* Access to Fan Club only Ticket pre-sales

Straight from the email. There is no way the Ten Club would change the ticketing policy and penalize long time members with this upgrade, or failure to do so, no way.

i hope you're right.
they've just worded it differently in the past.

Abe Froman

I have no problem with the increase. C'mon people it's $20!! :roll: Think of all the shit you've wasted 20 bucks on. People are really upset about this? :roll: I've read through almost this entire thread and I just don't get it. Well, whatever. Hopefully some members with a higher number quit so I can move up.

BizzzyBozzzy

William Wallace wrote:

BizzzyBozzzy wrote:

Yet PJ is not raising the price of membership and everyone is going off that they are. They're changing the package you receive for your $20.

Great changes!
Here is my situation (and the situation of many fans outside the US):
I am a fan from Europe.
Like many others, I'm in the club mostly for the X-mas single.
I don't care abot 10-C tickets since shows in Europe are general admission and getting tix is no problem here.
I couldn't care less for the Deep magazine since it has nothing to say most of the time.
Adding a shirt isn't that great either since I can't chose the artwork and the chances I don't like it are big given the shirt artwork from recent years (of course, some fans will love it regardless if it looks good or crappy, since it's from PJ).
So the package I would receive for my $50 isn't that good in my eyes.

As for the 'basic' new membership deal for $20, I think this is a joke.
You don't get anything physical from that, so the 10-C nearly has no expenses.
For $10, this would be OK. But charging $20 is a joke.

That's understandable and I don't want to dismiss your situation and stance but I'd have to think you're in the minority. It'd be great if PJ could make changes that didn't isolate or alienate anyone, but I trust that they're making these changes for a reason: whether it be overhead or otherwise and I won't pretend to know why.

I will however disagree with you that 10c nearly has no expenses if they're not shipping physical items. I'm not going to pretend to know what their expenses are.

You cannot select the artwork for the shirt but you also cannot choose the single you receive. And this is my main problem, selective criticism.

never too old

Memberships: $20/$40/$50

Loving Pearl Jam: PRICELESS

haffajappa

Yaaaay, double my membership fee so i can have another t-shirt i really don't need.
Never been one to complain about PJ and stuff but seriously...

BrainofBGA

I suppose what I'm trying to say is that over a few short years the fee keeps going up for unexplained reasons. I understand I have to be registered but if the fee us going up why!!? The comparison I'm trying to make here is that at least for your extra money they're giving you a tee and boot.

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

BrainofBGA wrote:

As a teacher in Australia I have to pay a yearly fee of $75. That's to be part of the teaching institute. You have to be part of this there is no choice if you want to be registered. A few years ago when it started, and it was ONLY a few years ago it cost $50. What do I get from the
institute? Sweet fuck all!!!! Being a ten club member is a choice. Don't like it? Don't join. At least you get something for it!

Kinda scary that a teacher is going to make such a flawed comparison. Will the 10C membership allow you to earn a living? Regardless of there being a choice or not, your institute fee is an investment that enables you to remain employed. Without that, you wouldn't have the money to piss away on a 45 and a t-shirt.

PilateOfTheStorm

aNiMaL wrote:

All the crying and carrying on is really bringing out the worst in some members.

If not getting a vinyl once a year from PJ is such an affront then in my opinion people need to question why they care about this band.

+1

cippociappo

BizzzyBozzzy wrote:

Yet PJ is not raising the price of membership and everyone is going off that they are. They're changing the package you receive for your $20.

It's the same thing.

TD-2243

I have to agree with the very vocal majority that this isn't cool. I'll be staying analog and just buying a single when/if the tenclub offers them for sale.

The big advantage to the 10C was buying tickets, but the bummer for people like myself who live in the south is that PJ never plays here anymore, so now I'm basically paying $20 for nothing, since they've taken my single away. I love this band, but can't justify $40 a year.

electronblue

i may go anal from all this reading

William Wallace

Abe Froman wrote:

I have no problem with the increase. C'mon people it's $20!! :roll:

It's not about not having another $20 for most people here.
It's about a general thing.
How would you like it if Pearl Jam sold their new CD through 10-C for $40?
You would be able to pay this, sure. But wouldn't you at least question it?

youngster

Don't be surprised if you spend $40 for the analog membership and a few months after the single is mailed it is in the goods section for free plus $4 shipping to all members. I can see this happening like they do now.

Get_Right

cippociappo wrote:

BizzzyBozzzy wrote:

Yet PJ is not raising the price of membership and everyone is going off that they are. They're changing the package you receive for your $20.

It's the same thing.

nope, you no longer get a holiday vinyl single or deep mailed to you-if you want that to continue, you must upgrade-and they will throw in a shirt and a download.

theserialthrilla

when we all get the first t-shirt and new hard back deep magazine and we all go "wow...this stuff is great.."

then you might see its worth the extra.

Heineken Helen

Abe Froman wrote:

I have no problem with the increase. C'mon people it's $20!! :roll: Think of all the shit you've wasted 20 bucks on. People are really upset about this? :roll: I've read through almost this entire thread and I just don't get it. Well, whatever. Hopefully some members with a higher number quit so I can move up.

It's nice that you think that... but... consider all the people who've lost their jobs recently. Consider people losing their houses and taking a pay drop. Consider the minimum wage in Ireland being cut by a euro an hour... thereby leaving the worst off in society even worse off by 2000euro a year :shock: .

Yeh, you're right, what's that $20 then? :roll: I used to think like that... then I moved to England where you actually earn pretty much nothing... and quickly learned what money's really worth! :? I think some people need to realise that they're LUCKY that $20 is nothing... and stop looking down on those who think it's something!

Heineken Helen

theserialthrilla wrote:

when we all get the first t-shirt and new hard back deep magazine and we all go "wow...this stuff is great.."

then you might see its worth the extra.

And then fingers crossed you get another I'm sure the first will be fine to try and tempt people into paying more money and then it'll just be downhill.

hopethatuchoke

theserialthrilla wrote:

when we all get the first t-shirt and new hard back deep magazine and we all go "wow...this stuff is great.."

then you might see its worth the extra.

Yeah I will be thrilled for more recipes and interviews with Josh Homme.