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  • comebackgirl
    comebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Oh, I must be getting my bullying/suicide stories mixed up. I saw on the news about a similar story but the boy shot himself. It's pretty bad that there are so many hate stories in the news that someone can get them mixed up...
    I think there was a 13 year old in Texas that shot himself after being teased for being gay. Apparently there have been 4 suicides connected to related issues in the past month that have been reported to the new outlets.

    I think now kids just can't ever get away from it. I'm sure it was always horrific to be bullied...and probably has always resulted in some suicides, but it used to be that kids were bullied at school or in certain classes or certain settings (the bus, gym class, etc). Now they can be bullied even when they're at home - online, through text...people they've never met or had contact with can join in, they can change schools and move but it's not necessarily going to stop. I think it's even harder for them to get some relief from it and it can really feel like the whole world is against them.
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    the bullying aspect is true... in fact i bought one of those anti-bullying wristbands to show support.

    well i say bought... i stole it from a wee fat geeky ginger kid.

    right on :thumbup:
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    metsfan wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    :lol:
    aren't you the guy who said the roommate should be tried for murder?

    go back to your spot at the kids table :mrgreen: ....only kidding metfan, only kidding
    yup i was and now that will get some wheels since the roommate is a homophobe


    ....HUH?

    the roommate could have been adolf hitler but he didn't push the dude off the bridge. you're just kidding right?
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  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    The Jeagler wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    :lol:
    aren't you the guy who said the roommate should be tried for murder?

    go back to your spot at the kids table :mrgreen: ....only kidding metfan, only kidding
    yup i was and now that will get some wheels since the roommate is a homophobe


    ....HUH?

    the roommate could have been adolf hitler but he didn't push the dude off the bridge. you're just kidding right?

    1. yes i was the guy who said the roommate should be tried for murder

    2. the case for trying the roommate for murder has some steam now that the world knows he posted anti gay like tweets on his twitter account
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    metsfan wrote:

    1. yes i was the guy who said the roommate should be tried for murder

    2. the case for trying the roommate for murder has some steam now that the world knows he posted anti gay like tweets on his twitter account
    You mean manslaughter, not murder...
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    The Jeagler wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    :lol:
    aren't you the guy who said the roommate should be tried for murder?

    go back to your spot at the kids table :mrgreen: ....only kidding metfan, only kidding
    yup i was and now that will get some wheels since the roommate is a homophobe


    ....HUH?

    the roommate could have been adolf hitler but he didn't push the dude off the bridge. you're just kidding right?


    speaking of Hitler... i got an email from Hans Fritspeiler, Adolfs cousin twice removed, earlier on saying that he was an alright bloke... kinda blows the whole insane jew killer argument out of the water doesnt it? ;)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    Jeanwah wrote:
    metsfan wrote:

    1. yes i was the guy who said the roommate should be tried for murder

    2. the case for trying the roommate for murder has some steam now that the world knows he posted anti gay like tweets on his twitter account
    You mean manslaughter, not murder...
    yes i mean that

    :oops:
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    metsfan wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    metsfan wrote:

    1. yes i was the guy who said the roommate should be tried for murder

    2. the case for trying the roommate for murder has some steam now that the world knows he posted anti gay like tweets on his twitter account
    You mean manslaughter, not murder...
    yes i mean that

    :oops:
    quick metsfan: google the difference between murder and manslaughter :lol::lol: :roll: :lol:

    i can see a case to be argued for involuntary manslaughter but i think it's a stretch.

    if a woman is raped....then commits suicide as a result of her mental and physical trauma, i don't think the rapist would then be tried for manslaughter.....or am i wrong? i can't recall any specific instances though...
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    They won't be charged with anything other than some invasion privacy charges but they should be. Tougher penalities need to be established for these situations, it is getting out of hand.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    They won't be charged with anything other than some invasion privacy charges but they should be. Tougher penalities need to be established for these situations, it is getting out of hand.


    i think we can all agree on this
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    The Jeagler wrote:
    quick metsfan: google the difference between murder and manslaughter :lol::lol: :roll: :lol:

    i can see a case to be argued for involuntary manslaughter but i think it's a stretch.

    if a woman is raped....then commits suicide as a result of her mental and physical trauma, i don't think the rapist would then be tried for manslaughter.....or am i wrong? i can't recall any specific instances though...

    based on my 20 years of law and order viewing, ;) there can be a case made for charging them with involuntary manslaughter but i only think that jack mccoy could get the conviction :D
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,824
    edited October 2010
    norm wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    quick metsfan: google the difference between murder and manslaughter :lol::lol: :roll: :lol:

    i can see a case to be argued for involuntary manslaughter but i think it's a stretch.

    if a woman is raped....then commits suicide as a result of her mental and physical trauma, i don't think the rapist would then be tried for manslaughter.....or am i wrong? i can't recall any specific instances though...

    based on my 20 years of law and order viewing, ;) there can be a case made for charging them with involuntary manslaughter but i only think that jack mccoy could get the conviction :D
    depraved indifference= murder2

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    norm wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    quick metsfan: google the difference between murder and manslaughter :lol::lol: :roll: :lol:

    i can see a case to be argued for involuntary manslaughter but i think it's a stretch.

    if a woman is raped....then commits suicide as a result of her mental and physical trauma, i don't think the rapist would then be tried for manslaughter.....or am i wrong? i can't recall any specific instances though...

    based on my 20 years of law and order viewing, ;) there can be a case made for charging them with involuntary manslaughter but i only think that jack mccoy could get the conviction :D

    dum dum...
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  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    The Jeagler wrote:
    quick metsfan: google the difference between murder and manslaughter :lol::lol: :roll: :lol:

    i can see a case to be argued for involuntary manslaughter but i think it's a stretch.

    if a woman is raped....then commits suicide as a result of her mental and physical trauma, i don't think the rapist would then be tried for manslaughter.....or am i wrong? i can't recall any specific instances though...

    yes i know the i difference i was in the middle of a poker hand

    :lol::lol:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Tougher penalities need to be established for these situations, it is getting out of hand.
    agreed


    btw- the LA L&O SUCKS
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    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Lizard wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    he jumped off the george washington bridge.

    That's what I thought.
    Oh, I must be getting my bullying/suicide stories mixed up. I saw on the news about a similar story but the boy shot himself. It's pretty bad that there are so many hate stories in the news that someone can get them mixed up...
    sorry jeanwah i had posted that one in this thread.
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    The Jeagler wrote:
    the poor kid could have grown up in the most liberal type of family environment known to man and still feel ashamed of himself for being that way though. even though his family may have accepted him, his peers in high school and college may not have. there's no way of knowing. and it's not the issue here, really.
    Yes he could have.
    Are you stating that he WAS ? 8-)

    It is sad, all around. Sadly too much of this happens... ugh.
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    dunkman wrote:
    haffajaffa your sig is great... but the last word is "sight" :thumbup:

    oh and your equation a couple of posts back was excellent :clap:
    I can't even see my sig!
    I know i made it something arcade fire.
    So fail on me. :(

    edit: oh piss. turned sigs on... HAHA well maybe Regine is in a construction site.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    metsfan wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    quick metsfan: google the difference between murder and manslaughter :lol::lol: :roll: :lol:

    i can see a case to be argued for involuntary manslaughter but i think it's a stretch.

    if a woman is raped....then commits suicide as a result of her mental and physical trauma, i don't think the rapist would then be tried for manslaughter.....or am i wrong? i can't recall any specific instances though...

    yes i know the i difference i was in the middle of a poker hand

    :lol::lol:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Tougher penalities need to be established for these situations, it is getting out of hand.
    agreed


    btw- the LA L&O SUCKS

    you were in the middle of a poker hand.

    well that explains it.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    Public Humiliation: It's Not The Web, It's Us

    Tyler Clementi was described as quiet and shy, perhaps lacking the mental toughness to deal with the humiliation of having his sex life put on display.

    This week, the Rutgers University freshman jumped off the George Washington Bridge after his roommate secretly taped him having sex and broadcast the footage over the Internet. Public humiliation is nothing new, but the prevalence of the Internet means that what happened to Clementi is going to keep happening, sociologist C. J. Pascoe says.

    "New media simply changes the audience for this," Pascoe says. "Instead of having to be present for this public humiliation, we can spread it to larger and larger audiences."

    But, he says, we shouldn't place all the blame for their actions on new technology. "I think the problem starts pre-technology, which is, what are the motivations we have in humiliating another person, and humiliating them sexually? That's the issue we need to deal with, and then follow up with concerns about new media."

    Some critics point to prime-time TV, to shows like Survivor, American Idol and Kitchen Nightmares that showcase hapless contestants getting harsh putdowns. Veteran journalist Linda Ellerbee calls it "vulture culture."

    "Who's going to be voted off the island? Who is our weakest link? Which of you, who can we be nastiest to in order to win? That's public humiliation for sport, and a lot of us love watching it," she says.

    NYU performance studies professor Tavia Nyong'o says there's one TV show that understands the way public humiliation is an everyday part of life for young people: Glee.

    "I think Glee is so important in this context because it's a show that's hysterically funny, and yet also about how to manage and maybe even transform experiences of public humiliation." He points to a particular scene in which one young man asks his bullies to let him take off his designer jacket before they stuff him in a dumpster.

    Nyong'o says that shortly after news of Clementi's suicide broke, his students began asking about whether coming out of the closet was relevant — Clementi was gay — and what it takes to withstand public humiliation.

    "We were talking about the misleading perception … that there's no cost to coming out anymore," he says. "There's a kind of equal opportunity for giving offense and for public hazing and for humiliating. We should all be able to deal with this now because we're all equally comfortable in our own skins. Tragically, what Rutgers reveals is that we're not all equally comfortable in our own skins."

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