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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,881
    would have preferred gus johnson but mayock and nessler could be decent together:

    NFL Network teams Mike Mayock with Brad Nessler
    Posted by Michael David Smith

    Getty ImagesNFL Network has a new announcing team for its prime time regular-season games, with Brad Nessler handling the play-by-play and Mike Mayock as the color commentator.

    Although NFL Network hasn’t formally announced the pairing, Richard Deitsch of SI.com reports that the decision has been made.

    The promotion of Mayock was expected and, frankly, overdue: He’s been the best analyst on NFL Network for years, and his presence in the booth represents a major improvement over last year’s commentators, Joe Theismann and Matt Millen.

    The decision to put Nessler, who also calls college football for ESPN, in the play-by-play chair is something of a surprise. He replaces Bob Papa, who had been with NFL Network the last two years. Prior to that NFL Network had Bryant Gumbel in the play-by-play role.

    Gus Johnson had also been considered for the play-by-play role. After the decision to go to Mayock was made, Papa was told to re-audition for his old job, and apparently NFL Network thought Nessler was a better fit with Mayock.

    Mayock and Nessler will debut on Thursday, November 10, when the Raiders play the Chargers in San Diego.

    UPDATE: NFL Network has now announced the move.

    “My favorite aspect of this industry is to do live games,” Mayock said in NFL Network’s statement. “You are able to get up close to the coaches and players and the environment is electric. To have the opportunity to call NFL games in primetime on NFL Network is like a dream come true.”

    Added Nessler, “The NFL has always been a big part of my life and my career. To join NFL Network and the great team they’ve assembled is an honor. Primetime football on Thursday nights is an event. It’s an exciting new challenge and I can’t wait to be part of it all.”
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    edited May 2011
    go team!
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,881
    that was from 10 days ago norm. :lol:
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    that was from 10 days ago norm. :lol:

    damn twitter! :twisted:
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,485
    that was from 10 days ago norm. :lol:
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,881
    good news...

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... th-owners/

    Reports: De Smith attended not-so-secret meeting with owners
    Posted by Mike Florio on June 2, 2011, 9:13 AM EDT
    Initial reports of the clandestine Chicago-area meeting involving multiple owners and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell omitted reference to one key attendee.

    Per multiple reports (including one from Adam Schefter of ESPN and one from Albert Breer of NFL Network), NFLPA* executive director DeMaurice Smith attended, too.

    Per Schefter, the two sides met into the evening in an effort to bridge some of their various and sharp differences. The meeting was so secretive that some owners didn’t even know it was happening.

    Though a potential agreement continues to be a long way away, there’s some hope that the foundation could be in place for a deal to be reached later this month.

    The key, in our view, will be for the two sides to use the uncertainty hovering over the Eighth Circuit’s consideration of whether the lockout will be lifted as motivation to control their destiny. Helping that effort could be questions or statements from one of the two judges believed to be leaning toward allowing the lockout to remain in place indicating that one or both of them quite possibly could go the other way.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,881
    prediction: lockout will come to an end by middle of july, possibly earlier.

    no games will be missed.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,881
    as good a replacement for gus johnson as there could be:

    Marv Albert lands with CBS
    Posted by Mike Florio on June 6, 2011, 2:57 PM EDT
    Getty ImagesWith Gus Johnson leaving for FOX, the folks at CBS needed a new play-by-play presence for its NFL coverage.

    Enter Marv Albert.

    Albert, who performed play-by-play duties for NFL games on NBC for 19 years, has been handling the play-by-play for Monday Night Football on Westwood One radio, with Boomer Esiason. Albert also handles NBA basketball for TNT, and college basketball for CBS.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,881
    possible timeline of events after an agreement (assuming lock out ends by end of month) is reached:


    How will things work post-lockout?An agreement by the end of June would preserve season but require some scrambling

    By John Clayton

    Could training camp be the coaches' first access to their players? That's one possibility once a labor agreement is reached. The owners and players met in two different cities over the past two weeks and made progress toward settling the current labor dispute.

    Both sides will meet again this week, and there is some cautious optimism that something could get done before the end of June. The good news is that a June settlement would mean no games would be lost.

    What's interesting, though, according to sources, is what might transpire in July. Let's say, for example, a deal is reached in late June. The league would have to figure out the start of free agency.


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    While it may be optimistic to think free agency could start the first week of July, it's a possibility. The more likely scenario is for free agency to start around July 15.

    One of the next decisions would be getting players back to work. Coaches would like to have a brief minicamp for players to make sure that everyone has playbooks and that players are in shape. They could have a mid-July minicamp and then have the players report to training camp after a brief vacation.

    That timing might not work out, and it's possible that the first time coaches could get together with players would be at camp.

    It's also not out of the question for the owners to shorten camps a little. Under the previous deal, veterans had to report to camp 15 days before the first preseason game. A new labor agreement could shorten that time for safety reasons -- concussion studies have suggested that fewer padded practices would be better. A shorter training camp could be implemented this year.

    All of this is meaningless until an agreement is reached, but at least there is some hope now.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,881
    for anyone interested ( :lol: ) it looks like the owners will only meet for one day this week. good sign. not as much push back as some feared.

    i think a deal gets done by the end of the month....
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    sounded like the framework was mostly done, it was just how they divy up the cash....


    i think we have a season on time
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    I haven't followed the lock out at all. Can someone explain to me what the two sides are arguing about?
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,828
    Newch91 wrote:
    I haven't followed the lock out at all. Can someone explain to me what the two sides are arguing about?

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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Newch91 wrote:
    I haven't followed the lock out at all. Can someone explain to me what the two sides are arguing about?

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    Thanks. Owners and Goodell want more?
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,881
    The 81 wrote:
    sounded like the framework was mostly done, it was just how they divy up the cash....


    i think we have a season on time

    i've heard 6/30 is when a deal will likely get done by. followed by a week off so everyone understands the new rules. then a week or two of free agency leading into camp.

    that will be a wild ride my friend.

    and YOUR philadelphia eagles are gonna be big spenders apparently. :mrgreen:
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,881
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6687485

    Sources: 48 percent share for players
    By Chris Mortensen

    Among the details NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is revealing to owners Tuesday at the owners' meeting in Rosemont, Ill., is that in the next proposed agreement players will receive a 48 percent share of "all revenue," without the $1-billion-plus credit off the top that had been a point of contention in earlier negotiations, according to sources familiar with the presentation.


    Under the new formula being negotiated, players will receive 48 percent of all revenue and will never dip below a 46.5 percent take of the money, sources said.


    In the previous collective bargaining agreement, players received approximately 60 percent of "total revenue" but that did not include $1 billion that was designated as an expense credit off the top of the $9 billion revenue model. Owners initially were seeking another $1 billion in credit only to reduce that amount substantially before exercising the lockout on March 13.


    Ultimately, the two sides have decided to simplify the formula, which will eliminate some tedious accounting audits of the credit the players have allowed in the previous deal. NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith has stated that players were actually receiving around 53 percent of all revenues instead of the much advertised 60 percent.


    Owners still will get some expense credits that will allow funding for new stadium construction, sources said.


    A rookie wage scale will be part of the new deal but is still being "tweaked," and the much-discussed 18-game regular season will be designated only as a negotiable item with the players and at no point is mandated in a potential agreement. A new 16-game Thursday night TV package beginning in 2012 will be the source of new revenue.


    As revenues are projected to possibly double by 2016 to $18 billion annually, retired players will benefit from improved health and pension funding that is expected to increase significantly.


    Players believe they can justify a 48 percent take because of the projected revenue growth, as well as built-in mechanism that require teams to spend a minimum of 90-93 percent of the salary cap, sources said. The mandatory minimum spending increase is an element that concerns lower-revenue clubs, sources say.


    The negotiating teams for the owners and players, led by Goodell and Smith, are expected to return to the table either Wednesday and Thursday, hoping to build off the momentum of three strong weeks of talks under the supervision of a court-appointed mediator, U.S. Magistrate Judge Arthur Boylan.


    Cautious expectations on the two sides reaching an agreement in principle are varied, ranging from one-to-three weeks with the hopes of beginning a new league year (free agency, etc) by mid-July.


    Any breakdown in talks could result in the loss of preseason games and threaten the opening of the regular season.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,881
    this would be awesome:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... v-package/

    Report: New CBA would include 16-game Thursday night TV package
    Posted by Mike Florio on June 21, 2011, 1:44 PM EDT
    With the NFL trying to get the players to take less per dollar in the hopes of getting more total dollars and with the players reluctant to grow the pie by growing the regular season, we’ve been mentioning two primary commitments that the players should be requesting: (1) a certain date for the NFL to return to Los Angeles; and (2) discontinuation of the late-season Thursday night regular-season games on NFL Network, with the games instead being sold to the highest bidder.
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    i've heard 6/30 is when a deal will likely get done by. followed by a week off so everyone understands the new rules. then a week or two of free agency leading into camp.

    that will be a wild ride my friend.

    i heard a late june/early july time frame tossed around a week or so back. sounds like they are on track....
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    this would be awesome:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... v-package/

    Report: New CBA would include 16-game Thursday night TV package
    Posted by Mike Florio on June 21, 2011, 1:44 PM EDT
    With the NFL trying to get the players to take less per dollar in the hopes of getting more total dollars and with the players reluctant to grow the pie by growing the regular season, we’ve been mentioning two primary commitments that the players should be requesting: (1) a certain date for the NFL to return to Los Angeles; and (2) discontinuation of the late-season Thursday night regular-season games on NFL Network, with the games instead being sold to the highest bidder.

    IMO, the thursday night matchup should pit teams that had a bye week to elimiate the short lead time

    obviously, the early season/late season matchups wouldn't work unless they had season long byes, which i would be ok with.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,881
    The 81 wrote:
    this would be awesome:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... v-package/

    Report: New CBA would include 16-game Thursday night TV package
    Posted by Mike Florio on June 21, 2011, 1:44 PM EDT
    With the NFL trying to get the players to take less per dollar in the hopes of getting more total dollars and with the players reluctant to grow the pie by growing the regular season, we’ve been mentioning two primary commitments that the players should be requesting: (1) a certain date for the NFL to return to Los Angeles; and (2) discontinuation of the late-season Thursday night regular-season games on NFL Network, with the games instead being sold to the highest bidder.

    IMO, the thursday night matchup should pit teams that had a bye week to elimiate the short lead time

    obviously, the early season/late season matchups wouldn't work unless they had season long byes, which i would be ok with.

    i would agree with that.

    i didn't like the thursday game at first...but it means you get an early start to the weekend. that is okay in the juggler's book.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,881
    so jerry jones is expecting camp to begin on 7/29 eh?

    :clap:
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Saw this picture on Yahoo's homepage. Even the cop is pissed at Goodell.

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,881
    Newch91 wrote:
    Saw this picture on Yahoo's homepage. Even the cop is pissed at Goodell.

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    ...that's demaurice smith, head of the player's union. he's no cop. :lol:

    and honestly, if they come to an agreement by some point next week and don't miss any regular season games, goodell should be applauded for this. they've gone 24 years without missing any games. no other league can say that.
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Newch91 wrote:
    Saw this picture on Yahoo's homepage. Even the cop is pissed at Goodell.

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    ...that's demaurice smith, head of the player's union. he's no cop. :lol:

    and honestly, if they come to an agreement by some point next week and don't miss any regular season games, goodell should be applauded for this. they've gone 24 years without missing any games. no other league can say that.
    :lol: :oops: He looks and is dressed like a cop.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,881
    :lol::lol::lol:

    he looks like, and is, a douche bag.
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    :lol::lol::lol:

    he looks like, and is, a douche bag.
    :lol::lol::lol: They're both douche bags.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,881
    Newch91 wrote:
    :lol::lol::lol:

    he looks like, and is, a douche bag.
    :lol::lol::lol: They're both douche bags.


    you thought he was a cop :lol::lol:
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Newch91 wrote:
    :lol::lol::lol:

    he looks like, and is, a douche bag.
    :lol::lol::lol: They're both douche bags.


    you thought he was a cop :lol::lol:
    :lol::lol::lol: He looked like he was dressed as one. :lol:
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837

    and honestly, if they come to an agreement by some point next week and don't miss any regular season games, goodell should be applauded for this. they've gone 24 years without missing any games. no other league can say that.

    he's already done enough damage with his horrendous rule changes. he's the worst
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