Beck to rally on anniversary of King's 'Dream' speech

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  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    also, a flock of geese flew over my head walking across the parking lot into work the other day. is that a sign from god as well?
    no its just Canada invading...
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  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    haffajappa wrote:
    also, a flock of geese flew over my head walking across the parking lot into work the other day. is that a sign from god as well?
    no its just Canada invading...


    Maybe, did they shit on you as they passed over? :D
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    OnTheEdge wrote:

    Maybe, did they shit on you as they passed over? :D
    no, if they did i would have immediately played the lottery. my next and final post ever would have been

    "I"M RICH, BITCH!!"

    lol... :lol:
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    So... instead of making such a big deal about how many people were there...
    What was said?
    I heard about the getting back to God thing... but, what else? What is 'The Plan' that was hyped up? Or is that the big plan... get back to God?
    If so... How? What are those 87,000 to 1,600,000 million people going to do?
    What is the big plan?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Cosmo wrote:
    So... instead of making such a big deal about how many people were there...
    What was said?
    I heard about the getting back to God thing... but, what else? What is 'The Plan' that was hyped up? Or is that the big plan... get back to God?
    If so... How? What are those 87,000 to 1,600,000 million people going to do?
    What is the big plan?
    apparently a geese flyover was part of the plan or something...

    i looked kind of halfheartedly for transcripts of the speeches, but if i found them i would have had to read them all, and frankly i do not care enough about what beck and palin have to say....i can't stand them on tv, so i can not bring myself to waste time reading their words....
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    apparently a geese flyover was part of the plan or something...

    i looked kind of halfheartedly for transcripts of the speeches, but if i found them i would have had to read them all, and frankly i do not care enough about what beck and palin have to say....i can't stand them on tv, so i can not bring myself to waste time reading their words....
    ...
    I did a search for the speech transcript and could not find them... you would think that Glenn Beck's own website would have a copy... nope. Or an international news agency, such as FOX News... nope.
    I just want to read the full text of his plan for America and try to see how it plans to Restore Honor in America. I want to try to look at it objectively, instead of hearing the pros and cons of web bloggers, pundits or ANALysts.
    Maybe the Beck Fans know... What did they get out of his speech?
    (Other than 'Getting back to God', 'Support The Troops', 'U!S!A! - U!S!A! - U!S!A!', yadda-yadda-yadda...)
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Cosmo wrote:
    So... instead of making such a big deal about how many people were there...
    What was said?
    I heard about the getting back to God thing... but, what else? What is 'The Plan' that was hyped up? Or is that the big plan... get back to God?
    If so... How? What are those 87,000 to 1,600,000 million people going to do?
    What is the big plan?

    stern played some clips and it sounded like a AA meeting...sounds like beck has co-opted the big book for his personal gain :roll:
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    beck told a whopper for dramatic effect in his speech at the rally...interesting read here....he is a damn liar...

    http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/08 ... ring-honor

    Glenn Beck's George Washington Whopper
    The Fox host says he held the inaugural address of the famously truthful founding father. Yeah right, says the National Archives.

    Wed Sep. 1, 2010 3:00 AM PDT
    During his much-ballyhooed "Restoring Honor" rally on Saturday, Glenn Beck told a whopper involving the founding father who was supposedly unable to tell a lie: George Washington.

    Speechifying at the foot of the Lincoln Memorial, the controversial Fox News host highlighted the legacy of the nation's first president to drive home his claim that encouraging honesty and integrity was a main aim of the event. Beck even told attendees that "the next George Washington" was "in this crowd. He may be 8 years old, but this is the moment. This is the moment that he dedicates his life, that he sees giants around him. And 25 years from now, he will come not to this stair, but to those stairs. And he can proclaim, 'I have a new dream.'"

    Beck also invoked Washington while describing the inspiring experience of visiting famous tourist destinations around the nation's capital. "I have been going to Mt. Vernon," he explained. Holding out his hands for emphasis, he declared with emotion, "I went to the National Archives, and I held the first inaugural address written in his own hand by George Washington."

    It was an eyebrow-raising revelation and certainly an original image: Beck cradling the actual words of the first president. But would the persnickety gatekeepers of the nation's historical legacy at the National Archives allow some talk show bombthrower to put his mitts on a rare (and fragile) artifact? The answer, it turns out, is no way. Beck was not telling the truth.

    Beck did receive a special VIP tour of the archives, arranged by an as-yet unidentified member of Congress. During that tour, he did get a peek inside the "legislative vault," which isn't open to ordinary visitors. But Archives spokeswoman Susan Cooper insists that Beck didn't lay a finger on any precious documents, much less George Washington’s inaugural address. That would be a major violation of policy. "Those kinds of treasures are only handled by specially trained archival staff," she explains. Cooper acknowledges that someone at the archives did show the document to Beck, but that was the extent of it. Regarding Beck's claim that he held the document, Cooper says that seeing such documents for the first time can be a very emotional experience. "I'm certain it was a figure of speech," she says.

    Cooper is being charitable. Beck's whopper gave his speech more heft and rhetorical flourish. It was high patriotic drama. But his fib stands in stark contrast to the point of the rally, which was all about restoring the principles of courage and honor that the nation was founded upon. In fact, one of Beck’s only prescriptions for fixing the country was to "tell the truth."

    Moreover, Beck has a history of chiding others for lying and stretching the truth to bolster his own incendiary rhetoric. In April, for instance, the Rev. Jim Wallis wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post criticizing Beck for suggesting that the term "social justice" was "code" for communism and for encouraging his radio show listeners to flee churches that promote social justice. Beck retorted by quoting the Bible to Wallis: "Thou shalt not lie." Groups like Media Matters soon found clips from Beck's show where he said precisely what Wallis had claimed he did.

    Yet getting caught in lies hasn't ever stopped Beck from holding himself up as someone with the honesty of, well, George Washington. He even has his own version of a cherry-tree-chopping tale, which he recounted during a February show in a segment dedicated to the "Lies Politicians Tell."

    He told viewers:

    When I was a kid, growing up you could get away with just about anything in my house except for lying. You did not want to lie in my house. I'll never forget the day my sister decided to play hooky. My dad worked in the bakery all day, so we never saw him in the light of day. My other sister and I were a little surprised when my dad picked us up and the sun was still out. He said, "Where's your sister? Be careful what you say. Remember, we tell the truth in this family."

    He made us both sit in the backseat. At this point, we knew bad things were about to go down. When we finally found my other sister, dad pulled up next to her: "So, how was school?" He kept asking and asking, letting her dig the hole deeper. I think I got only like three spankings in my life. My sisters never got any—until that day. The belt made an appearance.

    Just imagine what Papa Beck would have done if she said she had skipped school to hold the Declaration of Independence.

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  • sorry if it's already been posted but here's some interviews with people at the rally....man, what nuts and misinformed people!

    no one owns george washington as an occasion
    :lol:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht8PmEjxUfg
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  • haffajappa wrote:
    also, a flock of geese flew over my head walking across the parking lot into work the other day. is that a sign from god as well?
    no its just Canada invading...

    I hope the geese brought their papers, or else they'll be asked to go home again.
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    cajunkiwi wrote:
    haffajappa wrote:
    also, a flock of geese flew over my head walking across the parking lot into work the other day. is that a sign from god as well?
    no its just Canada invading...

    I hope the geese brought their papers, or else they'll be asked to go home again.
    i think that might only apply to mexican geese ;)
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  • The Beck Rally was a bible-thumping, back-to-God rally. Plain & Simple. It was not political. Beck is a Mormon. He believes, first & foremost, that God is the answer to all of the nation's problems.
    I really screwed that up. I really Schruted it.
  • And now comes word that he's holding an event in Anchorage on 9/11 where both he and Palin will speak. I'm sure he didn't realize the significance of that date either...
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • cajunkiwi wrote:
    And now comes word that he's holding an event in Anchorage on 9/11 where both he and Palin will speak. I'm sure he didn't realize the significance of that date either...

    Similar to Earth Day being held on Lenin's birthday... but they're environmentalists not communists, right?
    I really screwed that up. I really Schruted it.
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    cajunkiwi wrote:
    And now comes word that he's holding an event in Anchorage on 9/11 where both he and Palin will speak. I'm sure he didn't realize the significance of that date either...

    Similar to Earth Day being held on Lenin's birthday... but they're environmentalists not communists, right?

    Surely you're joking.
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    scb wrote:
    cajunkiwi wrote:
    And now comes word that he's holding an event in Anchorage on 9/11 where both he and Palin will speak. I'm sure he didn't realize the significance of that date either...

    Similar to Earth Day being held on Lenin's birthday... but they're environmentalists not communists, right?

    Surely you're joking.

    Well, I laughed... at the absurdity of the statement.
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  • scb wrote:
    cajunkiwi wrote:
    And now comes word that he's holding an event in Anchorage on 9/11 where both he and Palin will speak. I'm sure he didn't realize the significance of that date either...

    Similar to Earth Day being held on Lenin's birthday... but they're environmentalists not communists, right?

    Surely you're joking.

    Earth Day is April 22 for a reason. To celebrate the great Lenin's birthday. Yay Earth!
    I really screwed that up. I really Schruted it.
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    scb wrote:
    Similar to Earth Day being held on Lenin's birthday... but they're environmentalists not communists, right?

    Surely you're joking.

    Earth Day is April 22 for a reason. To celebrate the great Lenin's birthday. Yay Earth!

    Can you provide documentation of that reason, please?
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Earth Day is April 22 for a reason. To celebrate the great Lenin's birthday. Yay Earth!

    Do you do stand-up for a living, because this is funny shit.
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  • cajunkiwi wrote:
    And now comes word that he's holding an event in Anchorage on 9/11 where both he and Palin will speak. I'm sure he didn't realize the significance of that date either...

    Similar to Earth Day being held on Lenin's birthday... but they're environmentalists not communists, right?

    It also happens to be the birthday of one of the Earth Day founders. And Jack Nicholson (maybe they just liked On The Waterfront). Or 90210, since it's also Aaron Spelling's birthday. It's also Peter Frampton's birthday.

    OH MY GOD! THEY'RE NOT ENVIRONMENTALISTS, THEY'RE GUITARISTS! RUN FOR THE HILLS!
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    The Beck Rally was a bible-thumping, back-to-God rally. Plain & Simple. It was not political. Beck is a Mormon. He believes, first & foremost, that God is the answer to all of the nation's problems.
    how is telling everyone that "today america turns back to god" and professing that god is the answer to all of the nation's problems NOT political????? i mean, after all, we were founded on maintaining a separation between church and state, hence god should have no bearing on our laws or policies...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • cajunkiwi wrote:
    cajunkiwi wrote:
    And now comes word that he's holding an event in Anchorage on 9/11 where both he and Palin will speak. I'm sure he didn't realize the significance of that date either...

    Similar to Earth Day being held on Lenin's birthday... but they're environmentalists not communists, right?

    It also happens to be the birthday of one of the Earth Day founders. And Jack Nicholson (maybe they just liked On The Waterfront). Or 90210, since it's also Aaron Spelling's birthday. It's also Peter Frampton's birthday.

    OH MY GOD! THEY'RE NOT ENVIRONMENTALISTS, THEY'RE GUITARISTS! RUN FOR THE HILLS!


    You're the one who tried to say Beck doesn't realize the importance of 9/11.
    I really screwed that up. I really Schruted it.
  • The Beck Rally was a bible-thumping, back-to-God rally. Plain & Simple. It was not political. Beck is a Mormon. He believes, first & foremost, that God is the answer to all of the nation's problems.
    how is telling everyone that "today america turns back to god" and professing that god is the answer to all of the nation's problems NOT political????? i mean, after all, we were founded on maintaining a separation between church and state, hence god should have no bearing on our laws or policies...

    I don't think he was talking about laws & policies, but about God. It was a religious rally, not political. That's why he didn't want signs.
    I really screwed that up. I really Schruted it.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    The Beck Rally was a bible-thumping, back-to-God rally. Plain & Simple. It was not political. Beck is a Mormon. He believes, first & foremost, that God is the answer to all of the nation's problems.
    how is telling everyone that "today america turns back to god" and professing that god is the answer to all of the nation's problems NOT political????? i mean, after all, we were founded on maintaining a separation between church and state, hence god should have no bearing on our laws or policies...

    I don't think he was talking about laws & policies, but about God. It was a religious rally, not political. That's why he didn't want signs.
    he said we are taking the country back to god. how is that not political? he had sarah palin speak, how is that not political? it was in the national mall in the capital of this country, how is that not political? he made up a story that he held a significant historical document from george washington, so how was that not political? he had a religious revival on the steps of the lincoln memorial, how is that not political? he held a rally for the troops and their children, and these wars are very unpopular, so how is taking a side on that situation not political? it was sponsored by fox news, and again, how is that not political? i can do this all day if you like...
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    i can do this all day if you like...

    :lol::lol:

    (Sorry... that made me laugh.)
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    scb wrote:
    i can do this all day if you like...

    :lol::lol:

    (Sorry... that made me laugh.)
    yeah me too... 8-)
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  • I already said it, but "he wasn't talking about politics." That's how it wasn't political. He was talking about God & probably the Bible. He's a religious person so I'm sure that God has a lot to do with his every day life. He probably fears for the people of this country, just like most church-going people. That doesn't make it political. I'm sure you know that most churchy-type people worry about other peoples souls or those of their family & friends. Billy Graham probably talks about his country, too, when he has his religious events.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
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    cajunkiwi wrote:
    And now comes word that he's holding an event in Anchorage on 9/11 where both he and Palin will speak. I'm sure he didn't realize the significance of that date either...

    Similar to Earth Day being held on Lenin's birthday... but they're environmentalists not communists, right?
    ...
    Instead of the Glenn Beckesque connection between Earth Day and Communist take over of the children... let's put some facts in the mix:
    "[Advertisment Executive, Julian] Koenig was on Senator Gaylord Nelson's 1969 committee that established Earth Day on April 22. The date was Koenig's own birthday and "Earth Day" rhymed with "birthday." "
    ref. http://finance.kosmix.com/topic/Julian_Koenig
    ...
    There is more of a link to 'Mad Men' than Communism... wait... if there is a link between Earth Day and 'Mad Men'... there is also a link between 'Mad Men' and Communism... that would mean there is a link between Advertisment and Communism... or Consumerism and Communism... or Capitalism and Communism.
    Oh my gosh... Capitalists are really COMMUNISTS!!!
    Post edited by Cosmo on
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    I already said it, but "he wasn't talking about politics." That's how it wasn't political. He was talking about God & probably the Bible. He's a religious person so I'm sure that God has a lot to do with his every day life. He probably fears for the people of this country, just like most church-going people. That doesn't make it political. I'm sure you know that most churchy-type people worry about other peoples souls or those of their family & friends. Billy Graham probably talks about his country, too, when he has his religious events.
    newsflash...glenn beck does not care about you...he is a shameless self promoter who's schtick is to act like he does as he laughs (or cries) all the way to the bank...and it is inexcusable that he is using religion to earn his millions while his sheep fall for it....
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    I already said it, but "he wasn't talking about politics." That's how it wasn't political. He was talking about God & probably the Bible. He's a religious person so I'm sure that God has a lot to do with his every day life. He probably fears for the people of this country, just like most church-going people. That doesn't make it political. I'm sure you know that most churchy-type people worry about other peoples souls or those of their family & friends. Billy Graham probably talks about his country, too, when he has his religious events.
    ...
    How about churchy-type people get their own lives in order... before going around trying to fix everybody else's? When their lives are in perfect order... they can come save my wretched soul.
    I'm just sayin'.
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