Beck to rally on anniversary of King's 'Dream' speech

Gary Carter

FiveB247x wrote:

This reminds me of the time Shooter McGavin wanted to dedicate his tour to Chubbs. Very disingenuous.

gimmesometruth27

OnTheEdge wrote:

Beck is rallying against corupt united states government. Democrat or Republican. So why the fuck would anyone have a problem with that? Unless of course you're a left wing nut who believes that there is no corruption in our government now that it is run by democrats. Get real!! I support Beck 100%. And I believe when republicans take over and we still got the same old bullshit going round and round Beck will still be speaking up while people like most of you keep playing your bi-partisan bullshit games. :roll:

i doubt that seriously. you paint beck to be such a patriot. fact is he is just a money and fame whore same as palin. who who are they taking back civil rights from???????? last i checked the government can not take anybody's civil rights, and that is definitely not going on in our country today, other than the patriot act and gays not being allowed to marry...is beck fighting against those 2 laws?

gimmesometruth27

norm wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

and what the fuck does beck mean when he says "This is a moment, quite honestly, that I think we reclaim the civil rights movement." ???????? anyone have any ideas what he means? as if he has ever had to overcome his civil rights being denied or something...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100826/ap_ ... glenn_beck

so our resident beckians can't explain who they're reclaiming civil rights from?

of course they can't answer that. why do we keep asking? it is the same as when the tea party could never give solid answers on why they were angry other than "obama is taking away my medicare and he is a socialist"... :roll:

pjfan021

i think it's a huge fucking slap to the face to MLK's legacy and message. It's a bullshit move when the guy who's taking the same spot and date as MLK is also the same guy to call our first black president racist. This PR stunt is not about regaining our freedoms...it's about white america reclaiming the status quo of idiocracy, ignorance, and simple minded "solutions" that won't do anything for this country. For a guy who has "the plan for america" it seems to include a lot of religuous references which I strongly oppose..that makes me angry..i'm gonna hold a rally to get my country back!

OnTheEdge

Watching Olbermann before I head off to work. It's hilarious. He's talking about Beck.....again :roll: and it is so obvious how strong his jealousy and hatred is for him. Hey Olbermann....if you can't beat em....JOIN EM!.....

Open

What a disgrace. This is what has gotten us here and will lead to the downfall of this nation down the line:

http://www.livevideo.com/video/1EFA0174 ... intro.aspx

Jason P

FiveB247x wrote:

This reminds me of the time Shooter McGavin wanted to dedicate his tour to Chubbs. Very disingenuous.

Well played, sir.

gimmesometruth27

Glenn Beck's 8/28 rally: An instant guide

http://news.yahoo.com/s/theweek/2010082 ... eek/206445

New York – Is the Fox News host's event a bold attempt to restore honor to America, a Tea Party-inspired anti-tax event, or merely an orgy of self-promotion?

Fox News' reliably provocative Glenn Beck is mounting what many consider his boldest move yet: This Saturday's "Restoring Honor" rally in Washington, D.C., which is expected to draw up to 300,000 conservatives. Not only has Beck courted controversy by scheduling this ostensibly "non-political" rally on the anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s 1963 "I Have A Dream" speech, he's booked the same location: The Lincoln Memorial. Here's a concise guide to the goings-on:

Why is Beck holding a rally?
According to Beck's website, Restoring Honor is a "non-political event" conceived to pay tribute to our nation's "heroes, our heritage and our future." Attendees will be invited to "pledge to restore honor" to America at the steps of the memorial. Critics have labeled the event "Beckapalooza" and accused the Fox host of trying to pass off a mere self-promotional stunt as a headier endeavor.

Who is speaking?
Sarah Palin is the keynote speaker. Other orators include Beck himself and executives from the Special Operations Warrior Foundation, a charity that provides funds for the surviving children of Special Ops personnel killed in battle. Also featured: Choir performances and "literature distribution."

Wait, Sarah Palin is speaking? I thought this was non-political.
Palin's attendance, and the involvement of Tea Party groups, has prompted suspicions that the event is a conservative anti-tax rally in disguise. Beck insists, however, that the former vice presidential candidate will not be addressing political issues: "Sarah's Palin's role is introducing the heroes of the military, as a mother, not as a candidate." Attendees have been asked not to bring political signs or slogans.

How many people will be there?
Authorities in the capital say they're prepared for up to 300,000 people. Fellow Fox News host Bill O'Reilly has scoffed at such estimates, promising Beck he'll give up his own show if more than 100,000 people attend. (Some Tea Party groups have distributed a conservative-friendly guide to Washington D.C, warning people to avoid the Green and Yellow subway lines, which cover what the guide's authors suggest are sketchy parts of the city. Alas, says Mike Madden at the Washington City Paper, activists who follow this tip would miss the chance to visit the National Archives, where their "beloved Constitution now resides.")

Are people angry about Beck's choice of date and place?
Civil rights groups have expressed outrage. Marc Morial, president of the National Urban League, told CBS News it was "insulting" to King's legacy. Rev. Al Sharpton has also organized a Saturday march through Washington, D.C., to commemorate King's speech, an event supported by the NAACP, the National Urban League, and Martin Luther King III. Sharpton says he began planning his event in April, and that it is "not a countermarch to Beck."

How does Beck explain the choice of date?
He's shrugged it off as a coincidence, telling Bill O'Reilly that civil-rights critics have nothing to complain about: "Do white people own the legacy of Abraham Lincoln? I don't think they do, and I don't think black people own the legacy of Martin Luther King." Beck has said "divine providence" led him to select the date.

What do pundits make of it?
If this is "divine providence," says Alexander Zaitchik at AlterNet, then clearly God has a "very dark sense of humor." Beck is "the media's boldest manipulator of white racial anxieties, fears and prejudice." Were King alive today, Beck would likely excoriate him for being a "progressive cockroach." But the Fox News firebrand is right that black people don't own MLK's legacy, says Cynthia Tucker at the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Dr. King "belongs to America" — and the Bill of Rights he so passionately believed in guarantees Beck the right to his rally, no matter how "odious" civil rights groups think it is.

norm

at this point, all i can do is laugh...thanks jon!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-a ... e-a-scheme

Shawshank

Cosmo wrote:

The problem is he is typical of ALL pundits... they point out problems but NEVER OFFER SOLUTIONS. Any idiot can see the problems and point fingers... but, it takes someone greater than an idiot to come up with a viable, workable and reliable solution to the problem.
Glenn Beck simply points out problems and dumbs down his methods to reach the dumbest in the group. He will tell you who you need to hate, but has no real solutions that can be applied. Just a lot of lip service and soundbites.

I actually agree with this.

cajunkiwi

I think the question here is this:

We all know he has the RIGHT to hold his "reclaiming Civil Rights" speech on the anniversary and location of MLK's speech... but SHOULD he?

(that line of arguing sounds strangely familiar... I worry I may be stealing it from somewhere...)

inmytree

norm wrote:

at this point, all i can do is laugh...thanks jon!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-a ... e-a-scheme

thanks for posting that...

Jason P

I think Al Sharpton is angry ... actually, now that I think about it he is probably estatic ... that Beck has planned this event because it gets his giant head and name in the media.

gimmesometruth27

cajunkiwi wrote:

I think the question here is this:

We all know he has the RIGHT to hold his "reclaiming Civil Rights" speech on the anniversary and location of MLK's speech... but SHOULD he?

(that line of arguing sounds strangely familiar... I worry I may be stealing it from somewhere...)

lol, i agree...

beck is nuts if he thinks people are going to remember his little pow wow over the history that happened there 47 years ago. does he think he will match what king said in terms of relevence or history?? i can not wait to read a transcript of the drivel that is sure to be said.

why could he not do it at the washington monument or something?

so let me get this straight....he is holding a rally for freedom, civil rights, and honoring the special forces war dead...how do these things even go together? why not hold it at one of the war memorials??

gimmesometruth27

Jason P wrote:

I think Al Sharpton is angry ... actually, now that I think about it he is probably estatic ... that Beck has planned this event because it gets his giant head and name in the media.

why the hate on sharpton?

aerial

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

cajunkiwi wrote:

I think the question here is this:

We all know he has the RIGHT to hold his "reclaiming Civil Rights" speech on the anniversary and location of MLK's speech... but SHOULD he?

(that line of arguing sounds strangely familiar... I worry I may be stealing it from somewhere...)

lol, i agree...

beck is nuts if he thinks people are going to remember his little pow wow over the history that happened there 47 years ago. does he think he will match what king said in terms of relevence or history?? i can not wait to read a transcript of the drivel that is sure to be said.

why could he not do it at the washington monument or something?

so let me get this straight....he is holding a rally for freedom, civil rights, and honoring the special forces war dead...how do these things even go together? why not hold it at one of the war memorials??

Mandating health insurance, taking private property by eminent domain when it is not need for public use and selling it to a developer is just two examples of losing our civil rights…
.....why is it okay with you people to build a mosque at one of the buildings damaged on 9/11, but you find fault with Beck trying to get people together on this great day?

haffajappa

aerial wrote:

Mandating health insurance, taking private property by eminent domain when it is not need for public use and selling it to a developer is just two examples of losing our civil rights…
.....why is it okay with you people to build a mosque at one of the buildings damaged on 9/11, but you find fault with Beck trying to get people together on this great day?

this being your example of communism, right?

gimmesometruth27

aerial wrote:

Mandating health insurance, taking private property by eminent domain when it is not need for public use and selling it to a developer is just two examples of losing our civil rights…
.....why is it okay with you people to build a mosque at one of the buildings damaged on 9/11, but you find fault with Beck trying to get people together on this great day?

did you lose your civil rights? what about the gays? i have replied to your question 100 times in the mosque threads. it is ok with me that they build it there because they have a constitutional right to build it wherever they want to...you and beck use the constitution when it suits you, not in all cases...and then advocate changing it when it does not.

it was a great day until beck tried to commandeer its history.

MotoDC

cajunkiwi wrote:

I think the question here is this:

We all know he has the RIGHT to hold his "reclaiming Civil Rights" speech on the anniversary and location of MLK's speech... but SHOULD he?

(that line of arguing sounds strangely familiar... I worry I may be stealing it from somewhere...)

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic here. Just in case you're not, that line of thinking has been hashed out in numerous Ground Zero Mosque threads.

Separately, it's idiotic to believe that this timing is truely the coincidence that Beck is apparently claiming it is. Frankly, I think he would be better off calling it a tribute to the civil-rights themes that Dr. King worked so hard to further. Peronally, I'd rather run the risk of being accused of trying to compare myself to MLK and falling short than I would being accused of trying to "one-up" him.

That said, this argument is all so much fluff until we hear what is actually said at the rally.

puremagic

aerial wrote:

Mandating health insurance, taking private property by eminent domain when it is not need for public use and selling it to a developer is just two examples of losing our civil rights…
.....why is it okay with you people to build a mosque at one of the buildings damaged on 9/11, but you find fault with Beck trying to get people together on this great day?

1. Health Reform has already been debated and it has been passed.

2. Taking private property by eminent domain, this Supreme Court ruling in 2005 gave LOCAL and CITY government officials the right to seize private property. This occurs repeatly in urban city areas and in rural areas. Take a look at the Gulf Coast and you’ll see it happening now and not just in Louisiana.

3. Why do you think it’s a great day? (If you believe it’s a great day due to its historical reference to civil rights), why would you be opposed to the construction of the Islamic Cultural Center to replace a ‘damaged 9/11 building’ when there were so many buildings damaged on 9/11?

Seems like you’re contradicting your argument and would rather see it fall under eminent domain due to blight, then to have Muslims build on the property?