Beck to rally on anniversary of King's 'Dream' speech

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  • whygohome
    whygohome Posts: 2,305
    "Take the country back"

    I don't know what that means. Maybe I am not intelligent enough, but that statement simply isn't clear to me. Take it back from whom? The government? Where was Beck from 2001-2009? What are his credentials?

    The bottom line is this: Beck is an entertainer making millions off of the stupidity of the American public. People cannot think for themselves anymore, so we look to things like religion and entertainers. It makes no sense.

    People are mad at Obama for not doing enough in his first 20 months in office. They are mad because he hasn't waved his magic wand and made everything better. On the other hand, they also blame him for ruining the country in his first 20 months. What the hell is going on?

    In case you missed it, there is a trend in what I am saying and it is this: nobody can think, say, or do for themselves. It is very sad.

    I have to go now, I have the finale of "America's Got Talent" on my TiVO. And then I am going to the mall. There is a sale at Nordstrom.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,440
    whygohome wrote:
    "Take the country back"

    I don't know what that means. Maybe I am not intelligent enough, but that statement simply isn't clear to me. Take it back from whom? The government? Where was Beck from 2001-2009? What are his credentials?

    The bottom line is this: Beck is an entertainer making millions off of the stupidity of the American public. People cannot think for themselves anymore, so we look to things like religion and entertainers. It makes no sense.

    People are mad at Obama for not doing enough in his first 20 months in office. They are mad because he hasn't waved his magic wand and made everything better. On the other hand, they also blame him for ruining the country in his first 20 months. What the hell is going on?

    In case you missed it, there is a trend in what I am saying and it is this: nobody can think, say, or do for themselves. It is very sad.

    I have to go now, I have the finale of "America's Got Talent" on my TiVO. And then I am going to the mall. There is a sale at Nordstrom.
    well i guess we can be proud that people are actually reading a book, even if it is one of beck's books... 8-)
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,440
    i just saw the cover of this book....why is beck dressed up like mussolini on the cover of his book???

    glenn-beck-cover.JPG glenn beck


    mussolini.jpg mussolini


    anyone want to try to connect the dots beck style??
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Back around when 9/11 happened, a private phone call really didn't mean much to me if it meant it was going to get some terorists off the streets. Just saying. Any idea how many suspects have been caught due to wiretapping? But I guess that doesn't mean shit when somebody might be listening in on your dinner plans.
    ...
    So... are you admitting that you are doing Al Qaeda's will?
    If terrorists hate us... and hate us because of our freedoms... and one of those freedoms is our rights from the government seizing our privacy without a warrant of probable cause... as guaranteed us in the Fourth Amendment of our Bill of Rights... and you support the degradation of our rights... as guaranteed us by our Bill of Rights... which is what Al Qaeda wants... because they hate our freedoms...
    Then, you are helping Al Qaeda.
    ...
    If you claim to be a Patriot... You need to turn yourself in to Homeland security for being a terrorist enabler.
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  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Cosmo wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Back around when 9/11 happened, a private phone call really didn't mean much to me if it meant it was going to get some terorists off the streets. Just saying. Any idea how many suspects have been caught due to wiretapping? But I guess that doesn't mean shit when somebody might be listening in on your dinner plans.
    ...
    So... are you admitting that you are doing Al Qaeda's will?
    If terrorists hate us... and hate us because of our freedoms... and one of those freedoms is our rights from the government seizing our privacy without a warrant of probable cause... as guaranteed us in the Fourth Amendment of our Bill of Rights... and you support the degradation of our rights... as guaranteed us by our Bill of Rights... which is what Al Qaeda wants... because they hate our freedoms...
    Then, you are helping Al Qaeda.
    ...
    If you claim to be a Patriot... You need to turn yourself in to Homeland security for being a terrorist enabler.


    :lol:
  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    People fight non stop for the right to bear arms but give away their privacy because they're scare? Isn't privacy more valuable than arms? The autocratic governments give people arms but the first thing to go is their privacy.
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
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  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    arq wrote:
    People fight non stop for the right to bear arms but give away their privacy because they're scare? Isn't privacy more valuable than arms? The autocratic governments give people arms but the first thing to go is their privacy.


    It's not about being scared, it's about doing whatever we have to do to catch the bad guys. I'm not saying I totaly suport wiretapping, I just don't give a shit either way. If they tap my phone....so be it. Doesn't really bother me if it's for a good cause.
  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    arq wrote:
    People fight non stop for the right to bear arms but give away their privacy because they're scare? Isn't privacy more valuable than arms? The autocratic governments give people arms but the first thing to go is their privacy.


    It's not about being scared, it's about doing whatever we have to do to catch the bad guys. I'm not saying I totaly suport wiretapping, I just don't give a shit either way. If they tap my phone....so be it. Doesn't really bother me if it's for a good cause.

    I kind of understand you but "whatever we have to do..." is the weird part, what does it mean? Are we giving a blank check to our politicians to do whatever they want to do to protect us? Who says how far can they go, what civil liberties are we willing to lose?
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  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08 ... salvation/


    Just wanted to share this article. Maybe it will answer some questions for some, maybe not.
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    yes lets all trust our benevolent loving good government. they would never frame someone for something they didn't do... :roll:


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    an institution that would do this is not one i want listening to my phone calls.
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    arq wrote:
    People fight non stop for the right to bear arms but give away their privacy because they're scare? Isn't privacy more valuable than arms? The autocratic governments give people arms but the first thing to go is their privacy.


    It's not about being scared, it's about doing whatever we have to do to catch the bad guys. I'm not saying I totaly suport wiretapping, I just don't give a shit either way. If they tap my phone....so be it. Doesn't really bother me if it's for a good cause.
    What if taking away guns was part of the 'whatever we have to do'?
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  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    edited August 2010
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/29/beck-amends-obama-racist-comment-questions-belief-collective-salvation/


    Just wanted to share this article. Maybe it will answer some questions for some, maybe not.
    "Let's take them as people who knew what they were talking about. Let's try the whole turning back to God thing and see what happens," he said.

    Really Beck, really? :sick:
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  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    keeponrockin wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    arq wrote:
    People fight non stop for the right to bear arms but give away their privacy because they're scare? Isn't privacy more valuable than arms? The autocratic governments give people arms but the first thing to go is their privacy.


    It's not about being scared, it's about doing whatever we have to do to catch the bad guys. I'm not saying I totaly suport wiretapping, I just don't give a shit either way. If they tap my phone....so be it. Doesn't really bother me if it's for a good cause.
    What if taking away guns was part of the 'whatever we have to do'?


    I don't really see how taking away my guns would help in capturing terorists. If people have a problem with wiretapping, I have no problem with that. I understand why. I'm just saying, it doesn't bother me.
  • ONCE DEVIDED
    ONCE DEVIDED Posts: 1,131
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    haffajappa wrote:
    What exactly makes 2010 the dark ages and 2005 some sort of shining light of utopia?
    well for one, the democrats have the white house and both houses of congress, and they are gasp....talking about building a mosque near ground zero...

    so now its the dems buliding a Islamic centre in New york
    or maybe they are talking about the RIGHT TO BUILD IT
    again im no American. so what would I know
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  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    keeponrockin wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    arq wrote:
    People fight non stop for the right to bear arms but give away their privacy because they're scare? Isn't privacy more valuable than arms? The autocratic governments give people arms but the first thing to go is their privacy.


    It's not about being scared, it's about doing whatever we have to do to catch the bad guys. I'm not saying I totaly suport wiretapping, I just don't give a shit either way. If they tap my phone....so be it. Doesn't really bother me if it's for a good cause.
    What if taking away guns was part of the 'whatever we have to do'?

    I was just making the point about what Rights we are willing to let go, just as an example, you can take out "the right to bear arms" and put "freedom of religion", just in the name of our own safety...
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Take away our right to bear arms? no no no, we have the right to protect our families and our homes this being basic even if you trust the government. If you don't trust the government you also need guns to protect your freedom. I think all the trusting folk on here should play devils advocate and pretend for 24 hours the government is not working on your personal behalf, that they are not who and what they pretend to be. I was red white and blue once so I have seen the other side, it would do well for everyone to see all sides. And I am not talking parties. "This ain't no party" :twisted:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsksSWOxq2Y
    he's awesome in concert btw :D
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    pandora wrote:
    Take away our right to bear arms? no no no, we have the right to protect our families and our homes this being basic even if you trust the government. If you don't trust the government you also need guns to protect your freedom. I think all the trusting folk on here should play devils advocate and pretend for 24 hours the government is not working on your personal behalf, that they are not who and what they pretend to be. I was red white and blue once so I have seen the other side, it would do well for everyone to see all sides. And I am not talking parties. "This ain't no party" :twisted:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsksSWOxq2Y
    he's awesome in concert btw :D
    i disagree Pandora.

    i don't trust the Government completely, far from it, but i don't need guns to protect my freedom. like Tyler Durden said, the "things you own end up owning you", and "sticking feathers up your butt doesn't make you a chicken".

    so to me, putting a gun in my hand doesn't make me free. quite the opposite in fact.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Take away our right to bear arms? no no no, we have the right to protect our families and our homes this being basic even if you trust the government. If you don't trust the government you also need guns to protect your freedom. I think all the trusting folk on here should play devils advocate and pretend for 24 hours the government is not working on your personal behalf, that they are not who and what they pretend to be. I was red white and blue once so I have seen the other side, it would do well for everyone to see all sides. And I am not talking parties. "This ain't no party" :twisted:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsksSWOxq2Y
    he's awesome in concert btw :D
    i disagree Pandora.

    i don't trust the Government completely, far from it, but i don't need guns to protect my freedom. like Tyler Durdin said, the "things you own end up owning you", and "sticking feathers up your butt doesn't make you a chicken".

    so to me, putting a gun in my hand doesn't make me free. quite the opposite in fact.
    you will not be able to fight with your words when the time comes, you may need a gun
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    pandora wrote:
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Take away our right to bear arms? no no no, we have the right to protect our families and our homes this being basic even if you trust the government. If you don't trust the government you also need guns to protect your freedom. I think all the trusting folk on here should play devils advocate and pretend for 24 hours the government is not working on your personal behalf, that they are not who and what they pretend to be. I was red white and blue once so I have seen the other side, it would do well for everyone to see all sides. And I am not talking parties. "This ain't no party" :twisted:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsksSWOxq2Y
    he's awesome in concert btw :D
    i disagree Pandora.

    i don't trust the Government completely, far from it, but i don't need guns to protect my freedom. like Tyler Durdin said, the "things you own end up owning you", and "sticking feathers up your butt doesn't make you a chicken".

    so to me, putting a gun in my hand doesn't make me free. quite the opposite in fact.
    you will not be able to fight with your words when the time comes, you may need a gun
    well i certainly respect for your thoughts and each to his own, but for me, if it was ever that bad that it came to that, and i needed to take a gun with me everywhere i went, i couldn't imagine it would be that much fun to be alive anyway.

    that's living in fear. that's not living.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    TriumphantAngel wrote:

    i don't trust the Government completely, far from it, but i don't need guns to protect my freedom. like Tyler Durdin said, the "things you own end up owning you", and "sticking feathers up your butt doesn't make you a chicken".

    so to me, putting a gun in my hand doesn't make me free. quite the opposite in fact.
    you will not be able to fight with your words when the time comes, you may need a gun
    well i certainly respect for your thoughts and each to his own, but for me, if it was ever that bad that it came to that, and i needed to take a gun with me everywhere i went, i couldn't imagine it would be that much fun to be alive anyway.

    that's living in fear. that's not living.
    Survival is a basic instinct. We live anyway we can, and we hold on to our freedom of choice whatever the cost.
    It is not living in fear it is living to be free and keep freedom for our children. We have no idea what the future may bring, it is best to remain prepared.

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