Beck to rally on anniversary of King's 'Dream' speech

gimmesometruth27
gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,470
edited September 2010 in A Moving Train
i have a crazy feeling this is going to be a trainwreck. when have palin and beck ever done anything apolitical ever? with this rally IMO they are reduced to attention whores. it is telling that they are advising their followers to leave their signs at home....

Beck to rally on anniversary of King's 'Dream' speech

By PHILIP ELLIOTT

updated 8/26/2010 3:07:02 AM ET

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38860630/ns/politics/

WASHINGTON — Glenn Beck's rally on the anniversary and at the site of Martin Luther King Jr.'s famous "I Have a Dream" speech is drawing criticism, protests and questions about his intentions.

Beck insists the event Saturday at the Lincoln Memorial is not about politics, even though Beck and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin will attend. But the rally is drawing a strong reaction — and several counter-rallies — as the nation looks toward November's elections.

Beck, a popular figure among tea party activists and a polarizing Fox News Channel personality, has said it is merely a coincidence that the event is taking place on the 47th anniversary of King's plea for racial equality. Beck has called President Barack Obama a racist.

The event's website says the "Restoring Honor" rally is to pay tribute to America's military personnel and others "who embody our nation's founding principles of integrity, truth and honor." It urges citizens to attend and "help us restore the values that founded this great nation."

"This is going to be an iconic event," Beck says. "This is going to be a moment that you'll never be able to paint people as haters, racists, none of it. This is a moment, quite honestly, that I think we reclaim the civil rights movement. It has been so distorted and so turned upside down. It is an abomination."

The rally also is to promote the Special Operations Warrior Foundation, which provides scholarships and services to family members of military members.

Beck's critics dismissed his claims that the event will not be political.

"When we heard about Glenn Beck, it was puzzling," the Rev. Al Sharpton said. "Because if you read Dr. King's speech, it just doesn't gel with what Mr. Beck or Mrs. Palin are representing."

Beck has called Obama "a guy who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture."

"I'm not saying he doesn't like white people. I'm saying he has a problem," Beck said. "This guy is, I believe, a racist."

Palin has defended radio personality Laura Schlessinger, who announced this month she was ending her "Dr. Laura" program after using a racial epithet repeatedly on the air during a discussion with a caller about racism. Schlessinger later apologized but said her free speech rights were being violated by those urging station affiliates and sponsors to drop her program.

"Dr.Laura:don't retreat...reload!" Palin tweeted. She called Dr. Laura "even more powerful & effective w/out the shackles, so watch out Constitutional obstructionists. And b thankful 4 her voice,America!"

"The 8-28 rally is supposedly is about 'reclaiming the civil rights movement,' but it is being led by someone whose idea of a racist is the president of the United States," said Jess Levin, a spokesman for the liberal Media Matters for America, an organization that has targeted Beck, Fox News Channel and Schlessinger. "This rally is about one thing and one thing only. And that's promoting Beck's political agenda."

Elsewhere in Washington, civil rights activists planned to mark Saturday's anniversary of the landmark 1963 speech with rallies and demonstrations, some ending on the National Mall. One group planned a four-story sculpture in honor of King near the Washington Monument. Others planned to meet at a Washington school.

Sharpton's National Action Network plans a "Reclaim the Dream" rally that will feature Education Secretary Arne Duncan, National Urban League president Marc Morial and Martin Luther King III.

In an opinion piece for The Washington Post, King said of Beck's event that it's "commendable that this rally will honor the brave men and women of our armed forces who serve our country with phenomenal dedication." But he also said it was clear the organizers were invoking his father's work.

"My father championed free speech. He would be the first to say that those participating in Beck's rally have the right to express their views," King wrote Wednesday. "But his dream rejected hateful rhetoric and all forms of bigotry or discrimination, whether directed at race, faith, nationality, sexual orientation or political beliefs."

Organizers of Saturday's rally advise attendees not to bring signs, "as they may deter from the peaceful message we are bringing to Washington."

Signs at some tea party events have included pictures of Obama embellished with a Hitler-style mustache, racial epithets and threats to Democratic officials. They gave tea party critics grounds to claim the loose organization of activists was motivated by racism against the nation's first black president.

"Dr. King never had to ask anyone to leave their signs and guns at home," said Benjamin Todd Jealous, president of the NAACP. "To say to your followers, don't bring your signs — it's like saying don't open your mouth."

In the 47 years since King's speech, it has become a staple of civil rights history.

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character," he said on Aug. 28, 1963.

On Wednesday, Beck again sought to play down comparisons to the slain civil rights leader.

"I know that people are going to hammer because they're going to say, 'It's no Martin Luther King speech,'" Beck told his radio listeners on Wednesday. "Of course it's not Martin Luther King. You think I'm Martin Luther King?"

Civil rights leaders, too, hoped Beck wouldn't exploit the King legacy at the spot. But the imagery — a packed lawn listening to a speaker standing in the shadow of Lincoln — was certain to draw comparisons.

"I hope that's not what he's trying to do. I hope that this is a coincidence," Jealous said. "But more than anything, I hope that he, having chosen this day and this locations, pushes himself to really honor the unifying legacy of Dr. King."
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,470
    and what the fuck does beck mean when he says "This is a moment, quite honestly, that I think we reclaim the civil rights movement." ???????? anyone have any ideas what he means? as if he has ever had to overcome his civil rights being denied or something...

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100826/ap_ ... glenn_beck
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    and what the fuck does beck mean when he says "This is a moment, quite honestly, that I think we reclaim the civil rights movement." ???????? anyone have any ideas what he means? as if he has ever had to overcome his civil rights being denied or something...

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100826/ap_ ... glenn_beck
    Very puzzling.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    and what the fuck does beck mean when he says "This is a moment, quite honestly, that I think we reclaim the civil rights movement." ???????? anyone have any ideas what he means? as if he has ever had to overcome his civil rights being denied or something...

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100826/ap_ ... glenn_beck
    ...

    Glenn Beck's autobiography should begin with the words, "I was born a poor black child...".
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  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    and what the fuck does beck mean when he says "This is a moment, quite honestly, that I think we reclaim the civil rights movement." ???????? anyone have any ideas what he means? as if he has ever had to overcome his civil rights being denied or something...
    yahoo.com/s/ap/20100826/ap_on_en_tv/us_dc_rally_glenn_beck

    This rally is to remind people like you that civil rights, protect the rights of every individual including life, liberty and property. Has nothing to do with race......
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,470
    aerial wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    and what the fuck does beck mean when he says "This is a moment, quite honestly, that I think we reclaim the civil rights movement." ???????? anyone have any ideas what he means? as if he has ever had to overcome his civil rights being denied or something...
    yahoo.com/s/ap/20100826/ap_on_en_tv/us_dc_rally_glenn_beck

    This rally is to remind people like you that civil rights, protect the rights of every individual including life, liberty and property. Has nothing to do with race......
    are you confused with the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and property? all of these already are guaranteed to everyone....

    so answer me this...he said he is going to "reclaim the civil rights movement". civil rights are for everyone. so who is reclaiming them, and who is he reclaiming them from and for what reason???? as if beck's civil rights are being threatened.... :roll:
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    edited August 2010
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    and what the fuck does beck mean when he says "This is a moment, quite honestly, that I think we reclaim the civil rights movement." ???????? anyone have any ideas what he means? as if he has ever had to overcome his civil rights being denied or something...
    yahoo.com/s/ap/20100826/ap_on_en_tv/us_dc_rally_glenn_beck

    This rally is to remind people like you that civil rights, protect the rights of every individual including life, liberty and property. Has nothing to do with race......
    are you confused with the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and property? all of these already are guaranteed to everyone....

    so answer me this...he said he is going to "reclaim the civil rights movement". civil rights are for everyone. so who is reclaiming them, and who is he reclaiming them from and for what reason???? as if beck's civil rights are being threatened.... :roll:

    When has his civil rights ever been threatened?....it's like the saying "we are going to take our country back" I never knew we lost this country and IF we did to whom was it lost???

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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    and what the fuck does beck mean when he says "This is a moment, quite honestly, that I think we reclaim the civil rights movement." ???????? anyone have any ideas what he means? as if he has ever had to overcome his civil rights being denied or something...
    yahoo.com/s/ap/20100826/ap_on_en_tv/us_dc_rally_glenn_beck

    This rally is to remind people like you that civil rights, protect the rights of every individual including life, liberty and property. Has nothing to do with race......
    ...
    I hope Glenn and Sarah remind us ALL that we need to protect the rights of the people looking to build a Community Center in Manhattan from mob rule and that America protects everyone's rights, regardless of race or religion, huh?
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  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Beck is rallying against corupt united states government. Democrat or Republican. So why the fuck would anyone have a problem with that? Unless of course you're a left wing nut who believes that there is no corruption in our government now that it is run by democrats. Get real!! I support Beck 100%. And I believe when republicans take over and we still got the same old bullshit going round and round Beck will still be speaking up while people like most of you keep playing your bi-partisan bullshit games. :roll:
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    He has the right to free speech and to do as he please. However, he's setting himself up for failure for comparing himself to one of the great speeches in American history. It'd be like doing it at Gettysburg on the anniversary. You have every right to, but it just seems moronic.

    Plus, Glen is just sort of an idiot. However, The Daily Show will have a field day with this, and therefore, it'll make great TV. So, do it up Mr. Beck!
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    My best guess... based upon dangerously wreckless and completely unfounded speculation... is that Beck will pretty much say the following:
    The only reliable basis for sound government and just human relations is natural law.
    A free people cannot survive under a republican constitution unless they remain virtuous and morally strong.
    The most promising method of securing a virtuous and a morally stable people is to elect virtuous leaders.
    Without religion the government of a free people cannot be maintained.
    All things were created by God, therefore upon him all mankind are equally dependent and to him they are equally responsible.
    All men are created equal.
    The proper role of government is to provide equal rights, not equal things.
    Men are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights.
    To protect man's rights, God has revealed certain principles of divine law.
    The God-given right to govern is vested in the sovereign authority of the whole people.
    The majority of the people may alter or abolish a government which has become tyrannical.
    The United States of America shall be a republic.
    A constitution should be structured to permanently protect the people from the human frailties of their rulers.
    Life and liberty is secure so long as the right to property is secure.
    The highest level of prosperity occurs when there is a free market economy and minimum of government regulations.
    The government should be separated into three branches--legislative, executive and judicial.
    A system of checks and balances should be adopted to prevent the abuse of power.
    The unalienable rights of the people are most likely to be preserved if the principles of government are set forth in a written constitution.
    Only limited and carefully defined powers should be delegated to the government, all others being retained by the people.
    Efficiency and dispatch require government to operate according to the will of the majority, but constitutional provisions must be made to protect the rights of the minority.
    Strong local self-government is the keystone to preserving human freedom.
    A free people should be governed by law and not by the whims of man.
    A free society cannot survive as a republic without a broad program of general education.
    A free people will not survive unless they remain strong.
    Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations--entangling alliances with none.
    The core unit which determines the strength of any society is the family; therefore, the government should foster and protect its integrity.
    The burden of debt is as destructive to freedom as subjugation by conquest.
    The United States has a manifest destiny to be an example and a blessing to the entire human race.
    ...
    It's just a guess.
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  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    keeponrockin wrote:
    He has the right to free speech and to do as he please. However, he's setting himself up for failure for comparing himself to one of the great speeches in American history. It'd be like doing it at Gettysburg on the anniversary. You have every right to, but it just seems moronic.

    Plus, Glen is just sort of an idiot. However, The Daily Show will have a field day with this, and therefore, it'll make great TV. So, do it up Mr. Beck!
    He is not comparing himself to King, you and others are....but I do know he admires the man.
    I agree with OnTheEdge.....why would people have a problem with it?
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    He is not comparing himself to King, you and others are....but I do know he admires the man.
    I agree with OnTheEdge.....why would people have a problem with it?
    ...
    The problem is he is typical of ALL pundits... they point out problems but NEVER OFFER SOLUTIONS. Any idiot can see the problems and point fingers... but, it takes someone greater than an idiot to come up with a viable, workable and reliable solution to the problem.
    Glenn Beck simply points out problems and dumbs down his methods to reach the dumbest in the group. He will tell you who you need to hate, but has no real solutions that can be applied. Just a lot of lip service and soundbites.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    and what the fuck does beck mean when he says "This is a moment, quite honestly, that I think we reclaim the civil rights movement." ???????? anyone have any ideas what he means? as if he has ever had to overcome his civil rights being denied or something...

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100826/ap_ ... glenn_beck

    so our resident beckians can't explain who they're reclaiming civil rights from?
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    norm wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    and what the fuck does beck mean when he says "This is a moment, quite honestly, that I think we reclaim the civil rights movement." ???????? anyone have any ideas what he means? as if he has ever had to overcome his civil rights being denied or something...

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100826/ap_ ... glenn_beck

    so our resident beckians can't explain who they're reclaiming civil rights from?

    from them. you know those invisible people who are always trying to usurp the american peoples way of life ... them.
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    aerial wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    He has the right to free speech and to do as he please. However, he's setting himself up for failure for comparing himself to one of the great speeches in American history. It'd be like doing it at Gettysburg on the anniversary. You have every right to, but it just seems moronic.

    Plus, Glen is just sort of an idiot. However, The Daily Show will have a field day with this, and therefore, it'll make great TV. So, do it up Mr. Beck!
    He is not comparing himself to King, you and others are....but I do know he admires the man.
    I agree with OnTheEdge.....why would people have a problem with it?
    By putting his speech on the same day and place, he is setting himself up. Just like if a music festival was held at the same place as Woodstock, on the anniversary it would be compared to the original festival.
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  • haffajappa
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    Cosmo wrote:

    Glenn Beck's autobiography should begin with the words, "I was born a poor black child...".
    :lol:
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Beck is rallying against corupt united states government. Democrat or Republican. So why the fuck would anyone have a problem with that? Unless of course you're a left wing nut who believes that there is no corruption in our government now that it is run by democrats. Get real!! I support Beck 100%. And I believe when republicans take over and we still got the same old bullshit going round and round Beck will still be speaking up while people like most of you keep playing your bi-partisan bullshit games. :roll:
    Did he have rallies before Obama was president? If he didn't I don't really understand the legitimacy of what you are saying... Democrats have only been in a fraction of the last decade, so unless he's been crusading against the corrupt government when the Repubs were in too then what you're saying is just speculative...

    Its an honest question btw, I don't know much about Beck before the last couple months of hearing about him... sorry...
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    catefrances wrote:
    norm wrote:
    so our resident beckians can't explain who they're reclaiming civil rights from?

    from them. you know those invisible people who are always trying to usurp the american peoples way of life ... them.
    ...
    Oh... "THEM".
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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    This reminds me of the time Shooter McGavin wanted to dedicate his tour to Chubbs. Very disingenuous.
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    :lol::lol:

    I read the title of this thread and for just a second I thought it was about Beck the musician. :lol:

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