very good stuff...nucky's bro has lost his mind...dude is gonna get it Fredo style...
one complaint...too much harrow in thie episode...wouldve liked to see him wiped off the show...just pull the trigger man...who cares about your mask when your brain are about to be splattered?
i kind of enjoyed it. he's an interesting character.
I think Harrow is going to be in full on kill mode now after his time in the woods.
...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
very good stuff...nucky's bro has lost his mind...dude is gonna get it Fredo style...
one complaint...too much harrow in thie episode...wouldve liked to see him wiped off the show...just pull the trigger man...who cares about your mask when your brain are about to be splattered?
i kind of enjoyed it. he's an interesting character.
I think Harrow is going to be in full on kill mode now after his time in the woods.
i agree that harrow's an interesting character...
when he asked jimmy "would you fight for me?" and jimmy replied "of course, right down to the last bullet" then they went and scapled the old geezer who had earlier dissed & hit jimmy...pretty much implied he's already in full-on kill mode.
another good scene was when nucky & eli were going at it, then margaret broke it up it by putting a rifle to eli's head. it may not of been loaded ...still margaret's becoming quite a tough cookie.
very good stuff...nucky's bro has lost his mind...dude is gonna get it Fredo style...
one complaint...too much harrow in thie episode...wouldve liked to see him wiped off the show...just pull the trigger man...who cares about your mask when your brain are about to be splattered?
Yeah, Eli is out of control. That was great when Nucky pretty much told him to fuck off when he was begging for Nucky to forgive him.
I agree w/ too much Harrow....I mean, it seemed like half of this episode was dedicated to him.
And what's with these entire episodes with nothing from the guys in NY/Philly and Van Alden?? Seems kinda weird to leave those guys out for the whole episode...
very good stuff...nucky's bro has lost his mind...dude is gonna get it Fredo style...
one complaint...too much harrow in thie episode...wouldve liked to see him wiped off the show...just pull the trigger man...who cares about your mask when your brain are about to be splattered?
Yeah, Eli is out of control. That was great when Nucky pretty much told him to fuck off when he was begging for Nucky to forgive him.
I agree w/ too much Harrow....I mean, it seemed like half of this episode was dedicated to him.
And what's with these entire episodes with nothing from the guys in NY/Philly and Van Alden?? Seems kinda weird to leave those guys out for the whole episode...
the show is much better when we see the ny dudes...i also wanna see more Capone- what a cocky bastard he is! makes for a likable villian...then again, aren't they all villains?
very good stuff...nucky's bro has lost his mind...dude is gonna get it Fredo style...
one complaint...too much harrow in thie episode...wouldve liked to see him wiped off the show...just pull the trigger man...who cares about your mask when your brain are about to be splattered?
Yeah, Eli is out of control. That was great when Nucky pretty much told him to fuck off when he was begging for Nucky to forgive him.
I agree w/ too much Harrow....I mean, it seemed like half of this episode was dedicated to him.
And what's with these entire episodes with nothing from the guys in NY/Philly and Van Alden?? Seems kinda weird to leave those guys out for the whole episode...
I disagree. While it would be great to see every character in every episode, I love how they are building up and showing the complexity of each character. The character development in this show is phenomenal. This is probably why this season is so good. They don't have to keep introducing characters and the story, they are just expanding on the complexity of each...which makes the overall story much more powerful.
Harrow is a great character. So much mystery to him, so much anger and resentment...all of which is going to play out in future episodes. By showing more of who he is, it's going to make the story stronger and further allow for more powerful dialog. I also think by giving Harrow more time in the spotlight, it allows the viewer to sympathize and almost care for his tortured mind/thoughts. Last week when he was being drawn by Jimmy's wife, him telling the messed up story of his love for his sister...then him starting at the scrapbook of people in love, holding eachother with children...knowing full well, with his current "look" that he'll never have that...as we are living in a material, unjust world...him heading off to the woods to kill himself. I thought it was an awesome and powerful development.
Also, had they been showing the folks from NY, Chicago, or Philly, it wouldn't have allowed Harrow's story to be told, and they wouldn't have been able to show Eli's downward spiral as well...which I think is very important.
I disagree. While it would be great to see every character in every episode, I love how they are building up and showing the complexity of each character. The character development in this show is phenomenal. This is probably why this season is so good. They don't have to keep introducing characters and the story, they are just expanding on the complexity of each...which makes the overall story much more powerful.
Harrow is a great character. So much mystery to him, so much anger and resentment...all of which is going to play out in future episodes. By showing more of who he is, it's going to make the story stronger and further allow for more powerful dialog. I also think by giving Harrow more time in the spotlight, it allows the viewer to sympathize and almost care for his tortured mind/thoughts. Last week when he was being drawn by Jimmy's wife, him telling the messed up story of his love for his sister...then him starting at the scrapbook of people in love, holding eachother with children...knowing full well, with his current "look" that he'll never have that...as we are living in a material, unjust world...him heading off to the woods to kill himself. I thought it was an awesome and powerful development.
Also, had they been showing the folks from NY, Chicago, or Philly, it wouldn't have allowed Harrow's story to be told, and they wouldn't have been able to show Eli's downward spiral as well...which I think is very important.
I get the character development, but I guess it just seems like the guys from NY are becoming main characters in everything that is going on. Van Alden too. This is the 2nd episode already this season where he has not made an appearance at all. I thought I read that they were cutting the budget for this show....I just hope that isn't the cause for these characters to be mysteriously missing from entire episodes.
Don't get me wrong, this season has been outstanding so far. It just seems like certain storylines are being halted for an entire episode and I don't understand why. Also, they wouldnt have had to cut much out of this past week's episode....I think it was only like 47-48 mins long.
I get the character development, but I guess it just seems like the guys from NY are becoming main characters in everything that is going on. Van Alden too. This is the 2nd episode already this season where he has not made an appearance at all. I thought I read that they were cutting the budget for this show....I just hope that isn't the cause for these characters to be mysteriously missing from entire episodes.
Don't get me wrong, this season has been outstanding so far. It just seems like certain storylines are being halted for an entire episode and I don't understand why. Also, they wouldnt have had to cut much out of this past week's episode....I think it was only like 47-48 mins long.
I haven't heard that they were cutting the budget. In fact, I heard that season 3 was already approved.
Seems crazy to think they'd cut the budget of one of their most popular and successful shows...
I get the character development, but I guess it just seems like the guys from NY are becoming main characters in everything that is going on. Van Alden too. This is the 2nd episode already this season where he has not made an appearance at all. I thought I read that they were cutting the budget for this show....I just hope that isn't the cause for these characters to be mysteriously missing from entire episodes.
Don't get me wrong, this season has been outstanding so far. It just seems like certain storylines are being halted for an entire episode and I don't understand why. Also, they wouldnt have had to cut much out of this past week's episode....I think it was only like 47-48 mins long.
I haven't heard that they were cutting the budget. In fact, I heard that season 3 was already approved.
Seems crazy to think they'd cut the budget of one of their most popular and successful shows...
i missed the preview at the end of the last episode...i think i was so disturbed by it, i had to turn it off as soon as credits rolled...
anyone catch anything interesting in the preview?
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that would suck if they cut the budget but it is not affecting the writing of the show this season. these are a lot of the same people who wrote for the sopranos. that show was notorious for character development episodes like this week's.
I have a feeling that Irish guy working for Nucky (sorry--I am so bad with remember names) worries Margaret--like he might know her background she is trying to hide.
So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
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I have a feeling that Irish guy working for Nucky (sorry--I am so bad with remember names) worries Margaret--like he might know her background she is trying to hide.
ooooooooooooooooooooh interesting. never thought about there.
definitely something going on there.
i think those 2 end up partaking in sexual intercourse before the end of the season..
I have a feeling that Irish guy working for Nucky (sorry--I am so bad with remember names) worries Margaret--like he might know her background she is trying to hide.
ooooooooooooooooooooh interesting. never thought about there.
definitely something going on there.
i think those 2 end up partaking in sexual intercourse before the end of the season..
oooohhh yeaaaaaaahhhh....partaking has taken place.
so now we know why margaret left ireland and was estranged from her family. since they introduced them into the show could be interesting to see where it goes...will she'll try to bring the youngest sister to AC to live with her?
whoa...never saw jimmy having nucky shot coming, & eli was the one to suggest it :shock: though jimmy's conscience wouldn't let him pull the trigger himself...hmmm...
Was it me, or did anyone else have a hard time figuring out what the hell they were saying in this episode!?? Damn Irish accents! They should have put up sub-titles!
Anyways, the shit is really gonna hit the fan in the weeks to come! Seeing Nucky's reaction to Jimmy's planned hit is going to be GREAT!!
Was it me, or did anyone else have a hard time figuring out what the hell they were saying in this episode!?? Damn Irish accents! They should have put up sub-titles!
Yes!!! I had to rewind and put it on mute so subtitles popped up!!! worked like a charm!
So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
Jimmy should just bone his mom and get over it...in all seriousness, I think its great seeing jimmy already cracking over the pressure of trying to fill nucky's shoes... Its not as easy as he thought eh ? love the idea of nucky getting into the arms business... cant wait for next week.
Was it me, or did anyone else have a hard time figuring out what the hell they were saying in this episode!?? Damn Irish accents! They should have put up sub-titles!
I was wondering this when I was watching it - do you guys in the States understand not only what they were saying, but what was being spoken about e.g. Margarets escape of the Magdalene laundries and the Black and Tans? Ireland was in a jocker back then! It is very refreshing to hear actual Irish people instead of Americans doing really really bad diddley-eye Oirish ta-be-shure accents. One of the characters in S2 ep2 (the Irish friends that came to visit, the man with the glasses who accepted another drink after everyone was ready to leave- McGarrigle) was based on Eamon DeValera - a man who fought for Irish independance and became head of the 'freestate' after the Irish Civil War not long after that episode was based.
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I think Harrow is going to be in full on kill mode now after his time in the woods.
i agree that harrow's an interesting character...
when he asked jimmy "would you fight for me?" and jimmy replied "of course, right down to the last bullet" then they went and scapled the old geezer who had earlier dissed & hit jimmy...pretty much implied he's already in full-on kill mode.
another good scene was when nucky & eli were going at it, then margaret broke it up it by putting a rifle to eli's head. it may not of been loaded ...still margaret's becoming quite a tough cookie.
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
that was difficult...it was also difficult seeing that ward boss get his brains beat in
Yeah, Eli is out of control. That was great when Nucky pretty much told him to fuck off when he was begging for Nucky to forgive him.
I agree w/ too much Harrow....I mean, it seemed like half of this episode was dedicated to him.
And what's with these entire episodes with nothing from the guys in NY/Philly and Van Alden?? Seems kinda weird to leave those guys out for the whole episode...
the show is much better when we see the ny dudes...i also wanna see more Capone- what a cocky bastard he is! makes for a likable villian...then again, aren't they all villains?
I disagree. While it would be great to see every character in every episode, I love how they are building up and showing the complexity of each character. The character development in this show is phenomenal. This is probably why this season is so good. They don't have to keep introducing characters and the story, they are just expanding on the complexity of each...which makes the overall story much more powerful.
Harrow is a great character. So much mystery to him, so much anger and resentment...all of which is going to play out in future episodes. By showing more of who he is, it's going to make the story stronger and further allow for more powerful dialog. I also think by giving Harrow more time in the spotlight, it allows the viewer to sympathize and almost care for his tortured mind/thoughts. Last week when he was being drawn by Jimmy's wife, him telling the messed up story of his love for his sister...then him starting at the scrapbook of people in love, holding eachother with children...knowing full well, with his current "look" that he'll never have that...as we are living in a material, unjust world...him heading off to the woods to kill himself. I thought it was an awesome and powerful development.
Also, had they been showing the folks from NY, Chicago, or Philly, it wouldn't have allowed Harrow's story to be told, and they wouldn't have been able to show Eli's downward spiral as well...which I think is very important.
I get the character development, but I guess it just seems like the guys from NY are becoming main characters in everything that is going on. Van Alden too. This is the 2nd episode already this season where he has not made an appearance at all. I thought I read that they were cutting the budget for this show....I just hope that isn't the cause for these characters to be mysteriously missing from entire episodes.
Don't get me wrong, this season has been outstanding so far. It just seems like certain storylines are being halted for an entire episode and I don't understand why. Also, they wouldnt have had to cut much out of this past week's episode....I think it was only like 47-48 mins long.
I haven't heard that they were cutting the budget. In fact, I heard that season 3 was already approved.
Seems crazy to think they'd cut the budget of one of their most popular and successful shows...
This is where I read it....
http://www.craveonline.com/tv/articles/ ... udget-cuts
anyone catch anything interesting in the preview?
i really enjoyed harrow's storyline this week.
I have a feeling that Irish guy working for Nucky (sorry--I am so bad with remember names) worries Margaret--like he might know her background she is trying to hide.
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
ooooooooooooooooooooh interesting. never thought about there.
definitely something going on there.
i think those 2 end up partaking in sexual intercourse before the end of the season..
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
i thought jimmy's wife liked women?
Actually....I picture Harrow killing Jimmy and forcing his wife to play house with him. Maybe out in those woods!!!
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
I can see that...Harrow is so goddamn creepy!!
I could see that. I could see her being attracted to his dark, tortured self...
Then they bang away, she gets knocked up, the kid comes out all weird, and Harrow puts a creepy mask on the baby Michael Jackson style!
Anyways, who is it that plays Jimmy's wife? I'm pretty sure I could stare at her all day! She's purdy!
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2505803776/nm1658935
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
oooohhh yeaaaaaaahhhh....partaking has taken place.
so now we know why margaret left ireland and was estranged from her family. since they introduced them into the show could be interesting to see where it goes...will she'll try to bring the youngest sister to AC to live with her?
whoa...never saw jimmy having nucky shot coming, & eli was the one to suggest it :shock: though jimmy's conscience wouldn't let him pull the trigger himself...hmmm...
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as far as jimmy's revitalized gang, they're pretty tough now but i think arnold rothstein and nuck will find a way to put them down.
hey now, what about all the men on the show being adulterers...are they cheating whores too? or just a matter of boys will be boys....
what's with the double standard...is this 1921 or something?
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Was it me, or did anyone else have a hard time figuring out what the hell they were saying in this episode!??
Anyways, the shit is really gonna hit the fan in the weeks to come! Seeing Nucky's reaction to Jimmy's planned hit is going to be GREAT!!
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
always nice to see some lesbian action in this show...
jimmy's wife found a new girl!
I was wondering this when I was watching it - do you guys in the States understand not only what they were saying, but what was being spoken about e.g. Margarets escape of the Magdalene laundries and the Black and Tans? Ireland was in a jocker back then! It is very refreshing to hear actual Irish people instead of Americans doing really really bad diddley-eye Oirish ta-be-shure accents. One of the characters in S2 ep2 (the Irish friends that came to visit, the man with the glasses who accepted another drink after everyone was ready to leave- McGarrigle) was based on Eamon DeValera - a man who fought for Irish independance and became head of the 'freestate' after the Irish Civil War not long after that episode was based.
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