my opinion on rings is they mean less in the day of free agency.
The whole Lebron teaming up with 2 superstars is going only to lessen the value of a ring.
Again Jeter is the true Yankee and without him Arod would not have a ring. He is a cheater and will always be rembered this way.
Ken Griffey is Hall bound and his legacy will be greater than Arod's ring.
Ring mean nothing these days. It's all a business.
love jeter. love the yankees. but come on... a-rod practically single handedly won that WS for NY. you don't have to like the guy, but give credit where credit is due.
if rings mean nothing, and it's all about business and money, why did lebron, the biggest sports superstar in the world, ditch cleveland, take a pay cut, & team up with two superstars to win one?
I mentioned this but here is Buster Olneys full quote from a while back
I think most of the elite players were using performance-enhancing drugs, and within the context of that time — when baseball wasn’t doing anything to stop the growth of drug use — this was what the sport was. And we don’t know exactly who did what. There are a lot of superstar players who were broadly suspected within the sport of having used steroids, but they avoided the crossfire; the only difference between those guys and McGwire was that McGwire had Jose Canseco as a teammate. And here’s the other thing — we don’t know exactly who did what, and when they did it. So I think in order to have a consistent standard when considering the steroid-era players, you either have to vote for no one at all, or set aside the steroid issue and just vote for the best players of the era
I mentioned this but here is Buster Olneys full quote from a while back
I think most of the elite players were using performance-enhancing drugs, and within the context of that time — when baseball wasn’t doing anything to stop the growth of drug use — this was what the sport was. And we don’t know exactly who did what. There are a lot of superstar players who were broadly suspected within the sport of having used steroids, but they avoided the crossfire; the only difference between those guys and McGwire was that McGwire had Jose Canseco as a teammate. And here’s the other thing — we don’t know exactly who did what, and when they did it. So I think in order to have a consistent standard when considering the steroid-era players, you either have to vote for no one at all, or set aside the steroid issue and just vote for the best players of the era
the thing is tho ... ok - so, it was prevalent at the time and there were no rules against it ... but when given the opportunity to own up to it ... most of these guys didn't ... not A-Rod nor McGwire at the time ... because ultimately, they weren't man enuf to do so ... in a moment when they could have said they made a mistake and be role models for the kids out there - they chose to lie ... why the cuss would i want to cheer for people like that?
I mentioned this but here is Buster Olneys full quote from a while back
I think most of the elite players were using performance-enhancing drugs, and within the context of that time — when baseball wasn’t doing anything to stop the growth of drug use — this was what the sport was. And we don’t know exactly who did what. There are a lot of superstar players who were broadly suspected within the sport of having used steroids, but they avoided the crossfire; the only difference between those guys and McGwire was that McGwire had Jose Canseco as a teammate. And here’s the other thing — we don’t know exactly who did what, and when they did it. So I think in order to have a consistent standard when considering the steroid-era players, you either have to vote for no one at all, or set aside the steroid issue and just vote for the best players of the era
the thing is tho ... ok - so, it was prevalent at the time and there were no rules against it ... but when given the opportunity to own up to it ... most of these guys didn't ... not A-Rod nor McGwire at the time ... because ultimately, they weren't man enuf to do so ... in a moment when they could have said they made a mistake and be role models for the kids out there - they chose to lie ... why the cuss would i want to cheer for people like that?
I mentioned this but here is Buster Olneys full quote from a while back
I think most of the elite players were using performance-enhancing drugs, and within the context of that time — when baseball wasn’t doing anything to stop the growth of drug use — this was what the sport was. And we don’t know exactly who did what. There are a lot of superstar players who were broadly suspected within the sport of having used steroids, but they avoided the crossfire; the only difference between those guys and McGwire was that McGwire had Jose Canseco as a teammate. And here’s the other thing — we don’t know exactly who did what, and when they did it. So I think in order to have a consistent standard when considering the steroid-era players, you either have to vote for no one at all, or set aside the steroid issue and just vote for the best players of the era
Buster Olney, are you serious?
Spoken like the true Yankee homer he is.
I agree with Mr. Boswell, whom is in a league Buster will never touch,
Tom Boswell: Junior is the perfect example of why we shouldn't throw open the doors of Cooperstown to all the cheaters. "Oh, everybody did it, so I don't want to keep anybody out, so I'll vote like there was no Steroid Age." What kind of Amoral Dumber-Than-A-Rock logic is that. The world is complicated. Deal with it. If you have a HOF vote, do your best to figure out who cheated -- beyond a reasonable doubt -- and don't vote for 'em. But vote for the others. It's not perfect. But it's better than "I give up."
crazy thing about this is attendance figures for 600 home run games
Hank Aaron 1971 - 13,000 people
Willie Mays 1969 - about 5,000 people in San Diego.
Alex Rodriguez 2010 - 47,000 people
Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016 Fenway 2, 2018 MSG 2022 St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023 MSG 2024, MSG 2024 Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
HE HAS WON A CHAMPIONSHIP HERE AND WILL GO DOWN IN YANKEES HISTORY
HE HAS BANGED THE LIKES OF KATE HUDSON AND CAMERON DIAZ
HE MAKES 30 MILLION A YEAR ...
HATE ALL YOU WANT ...BUT WE ALL WISH WE WERE HIM
thanks for the caps. do you own the cavs?
"we're number 1! you're number 2! Suck on my balls! "
arrogant much? attitudes like this drove me west. celebrity "romances" speak to a level of insecurity i cannot .
you know he's a lakers fan too right? :roll:
kinda makes the whole "best city ever" talk a mooooo point.
yankees and lakers??? what the fuck? neily are you jack nicholson?
you know he's a lakers fan too right? :roll:
kinda makes the whole "best city ever" talk a mooooo point.
yankees and lakers??? what the fuck? neily are you jack nicholson?
And in college bastketball? That's right. U-N-C. I'm honestly shocked he's a Jets fan. It's the only team in NY he roots for that has not won a championship in his formative years of choosing who he would plead allegiance to.
I mentioned this but here is Buster Olneys full quote from a while back
I think most of the elite players were using performance-enhancing drugs, and within the context of that time — when baseball wasn’t doing anything to stop the growth of drug use — this was what the sport was. And we don’t know exactly who did what. There are a lot of superstar players who were broadly suspected within the sport of having used steroids, but they avoided the crossfire; the only difference between those guys and McGwire was that McGwire had Jose Canseco as a teammate. And here’s the other thing — we don’t know exactly who did what, and when they did it. So I think in order to have a consistent standard when considering the steroid-era players, you either have to vote for no one at all, or set aside the steroid issue and just vote for the best players of the era
Buster Olney, are you serious?
Spoken like the true Yankee homer he is.
I agree with Mr. Boswell, whom is in a league Buster will never touch,
Tom Boswell: Junior is the perfect example of why we shouldn't throw open the doors of Cooperstown to all the cheaters. "Oh, everybody did it, so I don't want to keep anybody out, so I'll vote like there was no Steroid Age." What kind of Amoral Dumber-Than-A-Rock logic is that. The world is complicated. Deal with it. If you have a HOF vote, do your best to figure out who cheated -- beyond a reasonable doubt -- and don't vote for 'em. But vote for the others. It's not perfect. But it's better than "I give up."
I think the people that get on their moral high horses about cheating in baseball are funny. get a clue. cheating in baseball has been going on since the game's inception.
clemens, arod, bonds are no doubt about it hall of famers
you know he's a lakers fan too right? :roll:
kinda makes the whole "best city ever" talk a mooooo point.
yankees and lakers??? what the fuck? neily are you jack nicholson?
And in college bastketball? That's right. U-N-C. I'm honestly shocked he's a Jets fan. It's the only team in NY he roots for that has not won a championship in his formative years of choosing who he would plead allegiance to.
that's terrible. a while back we argued about rooting for colleges that you didn't attend. I think anyone that pretends to be a superfan of a school that they didn't attend (or directly work for) looks foolish
Lenny Dykstra was/is my favorite Phillie of all time - homeless, sleeping in his car and all.
And Barry Bonds - steroids or not - is the greatest offensive player of our lifetime. Well, until Pujols passes him.
rickey henderson never gets mentioned in this discussion. he should get consideration.
bonds
griffey
pujols
arod
rickey
Definitely.
And Griffey to me is probably the best overall CF to play the game behind Mays.
Mickey Mantle has gotta be in the best CF ever play talk too. Those would be my top 3
Miguel Cabrera is another guy that doesn't get enough credit. Dude is still only 27. If he stays sober he could really put his mark on the record books
rickey henderson never gets mentioned in this discussion. he should get consideration.
bonds
griffey
pujols
arod
rickey
Definitely.
And Griffey to me is probably the best overall CF to play the game behind Mays.
Mickey Mantle has gotta be in the best CF ever play talk too. Those would be my top 3
Miguel Cabrera is another guy that doesn't get enough credit. Dude is still only 27. If he stays sober he could really put his mark on the record books
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Almost everyone took steroids, Arod just got caught.
love jeter. love the yankees. but come on... a-rod practically single handedly won that WS for NY. you don't have to like the guy, but give credit where credit is due.
if rings mean nothing, and it's all about business and money, why did lebron, the biggest sports superstar in the world, ditch cleveland, take a pay cut, & team up with two superstars to win one?
I think most of the elite players were using performance-enhancing drugs, and within the context of that time — when baseball wasn’t doing anything to stop the growth of drug use — this was what the sport was. And we don’t know exactly who did what. There are a lot of superstar players who were broadly suspected within the sport of having used steroids, but they avoided the crossfire; the only difference between those guys and McGwire was that McGwire had Jose Canseco as a teammate. And here’s the other thing — we don’t know exactly who did what, and when they did it. So I think in order to have a consistent standard when considering the steroid-era players, you either have to vote for no one at all, or set aside the steroid issue and just vote for the best players of the era
4,000 in 8 months dude. i am pulling for you.
the thing is tho ... ok - so, it was prevalent at the time and there were no rules against it ... but when given the opportunity to own up to it ... most of these guys didn't ... not A-Rod nor McGwire at the time ... because ultimately, they weren't man enuf to do so ... in a moment when they could have said they made a mistake and be role models for the kids out there - they chose to lie ... why the cuss would i want to cheer for people like that?
god bless ken griffey jr. that's all i gotta say.
he just never admitted ..don't be stupid and believe any differntly
...nor was he ever accused. what are you talking about dude?
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
arod for slapping the glove? arroyo for having corn rolls?
arroyo by a country mile.
the shittiest part of that play was jeter was called back to first base. how did that make sense?
And he should have been called out on the play for behaving like an eight year old if for no other reason.
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
they're gonna live off that for t he rest of their lives.. its actually quite funny what a sad sack of losers they are
create some new moments nation
"Everyone else was doing steroids too" line of bullshit ........I dont give a fuck if everyone was doing them....It was WRONG!!!!!!!
A-Rod is just another steroid freak, who used performance enhancing drugs.
Fuck him...
He should never even be considered for The Hall Of Fame.....
Just my humble opinion....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
like sosa
Buster Olney, are you serious?
Spoken like the true Yankee homer he is.
I agree with Mr. Boswell, whom is in a league Buster will never touch,
Tom Boswell: Junior is the perfect example of why we shouldn't throw open the doors of Cooperstown to all the cheaters. "Oh, everybody did it, so I don't want to keep anybody out, so I'll vote like there was no Steroid Age." What kind of Amoral Dumber-Than-A-Rock logic is that. The world is complicated. Deal with it. If you have a HOF vote, do your best to figure out who cheated -- beyond a reasonable doubt -- and don't vote for 'em. But vote for the others. It's not perfect. But it's better than "I give up."
All three signed with the same creative managment company.
Lebron went to Miami because he would have never won by himself.
He isn't losing much money either. What he gave up in the contract he'll make back in greater endorsements.
Magic, Larry, and Michael would have never done this chicken shit move.
Lebron=Pussy.
Mcguire
Bonds
A-ROD
Clemens
FUCK EM ALL!!!!!!!!
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Hank Aaron 1971 - 13,000 people
Willie Mays 1969 - about 5,000 people in San Diego.
Alex Rodriguez 2010 - 47,000 people
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
interesting article. what do you all think.
yankees and lakers??? what the fuck? neily are you jack nicholson?
rickey henderson never gets mentioned in this discussion. he should get consideration.
bonds
griffey
pujols
arod
rickey
And in college bastketball? That's right. U-N-C. I'm honestly shocked he's a Jets fan. It's the only team in NY he roots for that has not won a championship in his formative years of choosing who he would plead allegiance to.
nick swisher for just being himself. kevin millar is a close second. and arroyo is definitely a huge douche
I think the people that get on their moral high horses about cheating in baseball are funny. get a clue. cheating in baseball has been going on since the game's inception.
clemens, arod, bonds are no doubt about it hall of famers
that's terrible. a while back we argued about rooting for colleges that you didn't attend. I think anyone that pretends to be a superfan of a school that they didn't attend (or directly work for) looks foolish
Definitely.
And Griffey to me is probably the best overall CF to play the game behind Mays.
Mickey Mantle has gotta be in the best CF ever play talk too. Those would be my top 3
Miguel Cabrera is another guy that doesn't get enough credit. Dude is still only 27. If he stays sober he could really put his mark on the record books
Yeah, I'd go Mays, Junior, Seven.
But I'm talking those who have already done it.