hell no they don't, and if they are Americans why are they raising the mexican flag ? on OUR Independence day ? ...total lack of respect of our country.
hell no they don't, and if they are Americans why are they raising the mexican flag ? on OUR Independence day ? ...total lack of respect of our country.
Godfather.
Geography lesson of the day:
Mexico IS America. Mexicans ARE Americans.
scb.
yeah sure......have you seen Elvis lately ?.....ohhh wait we stole california from em diden't we or was it the indians, btw have you given your home to the local casino yet ?
hell no they don't, and if they are Americans why are they raising the mexican flag ? on OUR Independence day ? ...total lack of respect of our country.
Godfather.
Geography lesson of the day:
Mexico IS America. Mexicans ARE Americans.
scb.
yeah sure......have you seen Elvis lately ?.....ohhh wait we stole california from em diden't we or was it the indians, btw have you given your home to the local casino yet ?
Godfather.
Godfather.
Okay, I can see that today's lesson is going to require a visual aid and some required reading.
There are 36 countries in the Americas with the United States having the largest population (280 million) followed by Brazil (180 million) and then Mexico (100 million). Eighteen countries have Spanish as at least on their official languages. For more information on this region you can visit the website of the Organization of American States http://www.oas.org/ which was founded in 1948 and has representation from 35 of the 36 countries in the region. (Cuba is not a member).
hell no they don't, and if they are Americans why are they raising the mexican flag ? on OUR Independence day ? ...total lack of respect of our country.
Godfather.
Geography lesson of the day:
Mexico IS America. Mexicans ARE Americans.
scb.
This geography lesson gets real old. Of course they are part of the continent. America is just a short way to say USA, but for some reasons, some people just can't grasp that....why is that?
It's not a USA-centric thing, it's just an abbreviation. Usually it's very easy to tell when someone is referring to USA as America versus the continent.
This geography lesson gets real old. Of course they are part of the continent. America is just a short way to say USA, but for some reasons, some people just can't grasp that....why is that?
It's not a USA-centric thing, it's just an abbreviation. Usually it's very easy to tell when someone is referring to USA as America versus the continent.
I think it IS USA-centric and that's what gets old - especially when people are straight up saying Mexicans are NOT Americans.
Godfather wrote:
“Everyone's right and no one is sorry. that's the start and the end of the story…”
Then gimmesometruth27 responded about the Emma Goldman quote: “neither heaven nor space”
Both of those were driving me nuts of where I had heard them. So I googled of course and realized that I knew them both from the band Nada Surf. Sadly, I don’t know a lot about Emma Goldman, but got interested so I read up on her a bit too.
But, did I miss something. Are these two quotes related somehow, or is it just a weird coincidence? Where is yours from Brando? ( I just can’t ask you a question as Godfather! Ha! unless i'm asking for money or to whack someone )
This geography lesson gets real old. Of course they are part of the continent. America is just a short way to say USA, but for some reasons, some people just can't grasp that....why is that?
It's not a USA-centric thing, it's just an abbreviation. Usually it's very easy to tell when someone is referring to USA as America versus the continent.
I think it IS USA-centric and that's what gets old - especially when people are straight up saying Mexicans are NOT Americans.
You really think people don't know that Mexico, Brazil...et all are in the Americas? It's just because the silly long name United States of America is annoying to say so people shorten it to America. I'll never understand why this is a big deal.
This geography lesson gets real old. Of course they are part of the continent. America is just a short way to say USA, but for some reasons, some people just can't grasp that....why is that?
It's not a USA-centric thing, it's just an abbreviation. Usually it's very easy to tell when someone is referring to USA as America versus the continent.
I think it IS USA-centric and that's what gets old - especially when people are straight up saying Mexicans are NOT Americans.
Godfather wrote:
“Everyone's right and no one is sorry. that's the start and the end of the story…”
Then gimmesometruth27 responded about the Emma Goldman quote: “neither heaven nor space”
Both of those were driving me nuts of where I had heard them. So I googled of course and realized that I knew them both from the band Nada Surf. Sadly, I don’t know a lot about Emma Goldman, but got interested so I read up on her a bit too.
But, did I miss something. Are these two quotes related somehow, or is it just a weird coincidence? Where is yours from Brando? ( I just can’t ask you a question as Godfather! Ha! unless i'm asking for money or to whack someone )
off topic as well...that nada surf line is from "see these bones". that song has a lot of meaning to me, and it applies to the general observations i have about the board, "everyone is right" in their own mind and "no one is sorry" for how they feel or what they believe. i think it fits beautifully.
the emma goldman quote was from show i saw on the history channel show that howard zinn helped produce, where the celebrities read in front of a crowd...i can not for the life of me remember the name, but it inspired me to read up on emma goldman.after reading some of her writings i realized i agreed with a lot of what she said.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Godfather wrote:
“Everyone's right and no one is sorry. that's the start and the end of the story…”
Then gimmesometruth27 responded about the Emma Goldman quote: “neither heaven nor space”
Both of those were driving me nuts of where I had heard them. So I googled of course and realized that I knew them both from the band Nada Surf. Sadly, I don’t know a lot about Emma Goldman, but got interested so I read up on her a bit too.
But, did I miss something. Are these two quotes related somehow, or is it just a weird coincidence? Where is yours from Brando? ( I just can’t ask you a question as Godfather! Ha! unless i'm asking for money or to whack someone )
you fuckin people
worshipping a flag
over humans
cause of a border
worshipping money
cause they told you to
you wanna die for that rag?
go right ahead
and if you don't die
and only get limbs amputated
or you're head fucked up
and end up in walter reed
with rats
and a government who does not give a fuck about you
have fun
worshipping war
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
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some people will spend pages of posts fighting over a flag. these are the same people who criticize Obama at every available opportunity, mostly for the wrong reasons. these are the same people who don't want government involvement in their lives at all when it comes to things like affordable and timely health care for everyone, yet in the same breath these people are silent when their own government spends trillions of dollars fighting wars in two countries and aiding and supporting the oppresson in another. money that could be put to better use. money we can never get back. they are ok with trillions being spent there while their own fellow countrymen die waiting for health care. these are the same people that have no compassion at all for illegal immigrants and speak about them like they are scum which they are not. these are the people who advocate for the death penalty and talk with glee about murdering the murderer, but they like fetuses and telling women what to do with their bodies and are against abortion. these are the people who pretend to live their lives strictly within the principals of the constitution, but have no problems with detainees at Guantanamo being held indefinitely without sufficient charges against them and with no right to a fair trial. these are the same people who hide behind religion to make themselves feel better. these are some of the most hypocrital and selfish people you will ever find.
seems to me they are ok with the government having involvement when it suits them. rather hypocritical don't you think.
anyone who thinks that a piece of cloth is worth fighting harder for than advocating peace and speaking out about the governments awful foreign policies, is just proof of how well indoctrination works, uhm oops patriotism.
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some people will spend pages of posts fighting over a flag. these are the same people who criticize Obama at every available opportunity, mostly for the wrong reasons. these are the same people who don't want government involvement in their lives at all when it comes to things like affordable and timely health care for everyone, yet in the same breath these people are silent when their own government spends trillions of dollars fighting wars in two countries and aiding and supporting the oppresson in another. money that could be put to better use. money we can never get back. they are ok with trillions being spent there while their own fellow countrymen die waiting for health care. these are the same people that have no compassion at all for illegal immigrants and speak about them like they are scum which they are not. these are the people who advocate for the death penalty and talk with glee about murdering the murderer, but they like fetuses and telling women what to do with their bodies and are against abortion. these are the people who pretend to live their lives strictly within the principals of the constitution, but have no problems with detainees at Guantanamo being held indefinitely without sufficient charges against them and with no right to a fair trial. these are the same people who hide behind religion to make themselves feel better. these are some of the most hypocrital and selfish people you will ever find.
seems to me they are ok with the government having involvement when it suits them. rather hypocritical don't you think.
anyone who thinks that a piece of cloth is worth fighting harder for than advocating peace and speaking out about the governments awful foreign policies, is just proof of how well indoctrination works, uhm oops patriotism.
excellent post. i agree 1000%...i can not add to it at all...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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some people will spend pages of posts fighting over a flag. these are the same people who criticize Obama at every available opportunity, mostly for the wrong reasons. these are the same people who don't want government involvement in their lives at all when it comes to things like affordable and timely health care for everyone, yet in the same breath these people are silent when their own government spends trillions of dollars fighting wars in two countries and aiding and supporting the oppresson in another. money that could be put to better use. money we can never get back. they are ok with trillions being spent there while their own fellow countrymen die waiting for health care. these are the same people that have no compassion at all for illegal immigrants and speak about them like they are scum which they are not. these are the people who advocate for the death penalty and talk with glee about murdering the murderer, but they like fetuses and telling women what to do with their bodies and are against abortion. these are the people who pretend to live their lives strictly within the principals of the constitution, but have no problems with detainees at Guantanamo being held indefinitely without sufficient charges against them and with no right to a fair trial. these are the same people who hide behind religion to make themselves feel better. these are some of the most hypocrital and selfish people you will ever find.
seems to me they are ok with the government having involvement when it suits them. rather hypocritical don't you think.
anyone who thinks that a piece of cloth is worth fighting harder for than advocating peace and speaking out about the governments awful foreign policies, is just proof of how well indoctrination works, uhm oops patriotism.
Thanks for taking the time and energy to write that! It's a very thoughtful post. Touches on many important points.... It's obviously much more complicated then that, but ultimately that's the truth.....
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g.
i think you got it all mixed up, again
who do you care more about
a soldier who offers to give his life for this
flag
country
government
war
and ends up being treated like shit in an army hospital
or, your god forbid, dies in action
and then has their family lied to in front of millions of viewers
just to sell their fuckin war
or do you care more about the corrupt
flag
country
government
war
that would do such a thing
and you say you worship a god
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
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g.
i think you got it all mixed up, again
who do you care more about
a soldier who offers to give his life for this
flag
country
government
war
and ends up being treated like shit in an army hospital
or, your god forbid, dies in action
and then has their family lied to in front of millions of viewers
just to sell their fuckin war
or do you care more about the corrupt
flag
country
government
war
that would do such a thing
and you say you worship a god
ii appears that godfather told you to find another country... i have NEVER heard that one before! :roll: don't feel bad ed. i agree with you and have been told to find a new country a few times...but i stay here just to spite those that would tell me to leave lol....
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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So is it God and our Saviour Jesus Christ who said we should travel across the world and kill people? Are we doing this for them? If not, perhaps those of us who do worship God should not support war. Perhaps war is not the Godly thing to do. I'd even venture to say that perhaps God agrees with ed.
You say he just spit in the faces of every man & woman who fought or died for the flag and the freedom it represents, and yet many of those very same men & women would agree with ed's post and frequently say similar things. (For all I know, ed may be one of them.) Do they - the people you are trying to defend - not deserve to live in this country either?
Well my friend as weird as it sounds those groups are a possibility, that kind of statistical "abnormalities" exist in any group. Can you believe that Anti-Semitic Jews existed?... Who Would Have Thought? But they exist, so a Republican Hispanic group in favor of the 1070 doesn't mean that a huge % of Hispanics approve the 1070 law.
"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
Neil deGrasse Tyson
Well my friend as weird as it sounds those groups are a possibility, that kind of statistical "abnormalities" exist in any group. Can you believe that Anti-Semitic Jews existed?... Who Would Have Thought? But they exist, so a Republican Hispanic group in favor of the 1070 doesn't mean that a huge % of Hispanics approve the 1070 law.
actuallt I have a friend and he and his wife support the new bill, as he said "it's not my responsibality to take care of them my family comes first". and your right that stuff has been happening for years there was even black slave traders, kinda funny what a person will do for money.
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Those undecided,........ Needn't have faith to be free
And those misguided, There was a plan for them to be
Now you got both sides Claiming killing in Gods name
But God is nowhere,..... To be found, conveniently
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
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Those undecided,........ Needn't have faith to be free
And those misguided, There was a plan for them to be
Now you got both sides Claiming killing in Gods name
But God is nowhere,..... To be found, conveniently
o.k Ed so I flipped a little..I am a very patriotic American but what dose this mean what you just posted ?
Those undecided,........ Needn't have faith to be free
And those misguided, There was a plan for them to be
Now you got both sides Claiming killing in Gods name
But God is nowhere,..... To be found, conveniently
o.k Ed so I flipped a little..I am a very patriotic American but what dose this mean what you just posted ?
Godfather.
it's just a part of a song
marker in the sand
has to do with
a god
a war
both sides selling a war, in the name of a god, to the innocent
a patriotic american, to me, is someone in support of
the current govenrment
every past u.s. government
a line drawn on a map
the corruption of money
the corruption of power
a military that murders peaceful civilians and children
a government that lets its' people
die from lack of healthcare
starve from lack of money
be homeless so wall st. can stay in the penthouse
anyone who values that flag more than any other human being
is a patriotic american
but that is just my opinion
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
Comments
Geography lesson of the day:
Mexico IS America. Mexicans ARE Americans.
scb.
yeah sure......have you seen Elvis lately ?.....ohhh wait we stole california from em diden't we or was it the indians, btw have you given your home to the local casino yet ?
Godfather.
Godfather.
which one is that ?
Godfather.
Okay, I can see that today's lesson is going to require a visual aid and some required reading.
Americas
There are 36 countries in the Americas with the United States having the largest population (280 million) followed by Brazil (180 million) and then Mexico (100 million). Eighteen countries have Spanish as at least on their official languages. For more information on this region you can visit the website of the Organization of American States http://www.oas.org/ which was founded in 1948 and has representation from 35 of the 36 countries in the region. (Cuba is not a member).
The one in his signature.
This geography lesson gets real old. Of course they are part of the continent. America is just a short way to say USA, but for some reasons, some people just can't grasp that....why is that?
It's not a USA-centric thing, it's just an abbreviation. Usually it's very easy to tell when someone is referring to USA as America versus the continent.
I mean, if it was just some people partying, who cares? Now, if it was at the State Capital....bigger deal.
I think it IS USA-centric and that's what gets old - especially when people are straight up saying Mexicans are NOT Americans.
Godfather wrote:
“Everyone's right and no one is sorry. that's the start and the end of the story…”
Then gimmesometruth27 responded about the Emma Goldman quote: “neither heaven nor space”
Both of those were driving me nuts of where I had heard them. So I googled of course and realized that I knew them both from the band Nada Surf. Sadly, I don’t know a lot about Emma Goldman, but got interested so I read up on her a bit too.
But, did I miss something. Are these two quotes related somehow, or is it just a weird coincidence? Where is yours from Brando? ( I just can’t ask you a question as Godfather! Ha!
You really think people don't know that Mexico, Brazil...et all are in the Americas? It's just because the silly long name United States of America is annoying to say so people shorten it to America. I'll never understand why this is a big deal.
the emma goldman quote was from show i saw on the history channel show that howard zinn helped produce, where the celebrities read in front of a crowd...i can not for the life of me remember the name, but it inspired me to read up on emma goldman.after reading some of her writings i realized i agreed with a lot of what she said.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Godfather.
worshipping a flag
over humans
cause of a border
worshipping money
cause they told you to
you wanna die for that rag?
go right ahead
and if you don't die
and only get limbs amputated
or you're head fucked up
and end up in walter reed
with rats
and a government who does not give a fuck about you
have fun
worshipping war
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
some people will spend pages of posts fighting over a flag. these are the same people who criticize Obama at every available opportunity, mostly for the wrong reasons. these are the same people who don't want government involvement in their lives at all when it comes to things like affordable and timely health care for everyone, yet in the same breath these people are silent when their own government spends trillions of dollars fighting wars in two countries and aiding and supporting the oppresson in another. money that could be put to better use. money we can never get back. they are ok with trillions being spent there while their own fellow countrymen die waiting for health care. these are the same people that have no compassion at all for illegal immigrants and speak about them like they are scum which they are not. these are the people who advocate for the death penalty and talk with glee about murdering the murderer, but they like fetuses and telling women what to do with their bodies and are against abortion. these are the people who pretend to live their lives strictly within the principals of the constitution, but have no problems with detainees at Guantanamo being held indefinitely without sufficient charges against them and with no right to a fair trial. these are the same people who hide behind religion to make themselves feel better. these are some of the most hypocrital and selfish people you will ever find.
seems to me they are ok with the government having involvement when it suits them. rather hypocritical don't you think.
anyone who thinks that a piece of cloth is worth fighting harder for than advocating peace and speaking out about the governments awful foreign policies, is just proof of how well indoctrination works, uhm oops patriotism.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Thanks for taking the time and energy to write that! It's a very thoughtful post. Touches on many important points.... It's obviously much more complicated then that, but ultimately that's the truth.....
g.
i think you got it all mixed up, again
who do you care more about
a soldier who offers to give his life for this
flag
country
government
war
and ends up being treated like shit in an army hospital
or, your god forbid, dies in action
and then has their family lied to in front of millions of viewers
just to sell their fuckin war
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og_m48LWkR8
or do you care more about the corrupt
flag
country
government
war
that would do such a thing
and you say you worship a god
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
So is it God and our Saviour Jesus Christ who said we should travel across the world and kill people? Are we doing this for them? If not, perhaps those of us who do worship God should not support war. Perhaps war is not the Godly thing to do. I'd even venture to say that perhaps God agrees with ed.
You say he just spit in the faces of every man & woman who fought or died for the flag and the freedom it represents, and yet many of those very same men & women would agree with ed's post and frequently say similar things. (For all I know, ed may be one of them.) Do they - the people you are trying to defend - not deserve to live in this country either?
Godfather.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07 ... ation-law/
Neil deGrasse Tyson
Why not (V) (°,,,,°) (V) ?
actuallt I have a friend and he and his wife support the new bill, as he said "it's not my responsibality to take care of them my family comes first". and your right that stuff has been happening for years there was even black slave traders, kinda funny what a person will do for money.
Godfather.
Those undecided,........ Needn't have faith to be free
And those misguided, There was a plan for them to be
Now you got both sides Claiming killing in Gods name
But God is nowhere,..... To be found, conveniently
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
o.k Ed so I flipped a little..I am a very patriotic American but what dose this mean what you just posted ?
Godfather.
This is why it's hard for me to really dislike you. You admitted that you overreacted and you asked a legitimate clarifying question. :thumbup:
scb.
maybe we were neighbors in another life and I survived it.
Godfather.
it's just a part of a song
marker in the sand
has to do with
a god
a war
both sides selling a war, in the name of a god, to the innocent
a patriotic american, to me, is someone in support of
the current govenrment
every past u.s. government
a line drawn on a map
the corruption of money
the corruption of power
a military that murders peaceful civilians and children
a government that lets its' people
die from lack of healthcare
starve from lack of money
be homeless so wall st. can stay in the penthouse
anyone who values that flag more than any other human being
is a patriotic american
but that is just my opinion
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... 49,00.html
Godfather.