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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    satansbed wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
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    No, just wondering, are you an American or do you live in another country?
    why does this matter? can he have no opinion if he lives somewhere else??? it pisses me off when americans dismiss everyone else's opinion if they do not live here. ever wonder why so many people think we americans are arrogant pricks?

    i was going to write the exact same thing
    it is the truth isn't it?

    it is as if some of these posters on here feel that the rest of the world can have no opinion on what we do, simply because they live outside of our borders. most times the rest of the world is directly affected by the choices our government makes. maybe if americans would shut up and listen for once the entire world could benefit...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    Maybe he just wanted to see how people see things from some place else. Don't jump to conclusions and make assumptions so quickly.
  • Wait a second...aren't Americans always criticized for expressing opinions about the affairs of other contries? Why the double standard? Why are Americans (and patriots) always ostracized?
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • KatKat Posts: 4,908
    Woah, woah, woah....too many blanket statements.

    "Americans" have lots of opinions about everything...and so does the rest of the world. Do not paint a culture or race or nationality with a single brush. Please be careful of the language being used in the debates here...no matter the topic.

    We want opinions from everywhere on all kinds of things. Maybe the intelligent discussions can help with making our planet a better place. We're all in this together. Thank you.

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  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    OnTheEdge wrote:
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    No, just wondering, are you an American or do you live in another country?
    why does this matter? can he have no opinion if he lives somewhere else??? it pisses me off when americans dismiss everyone else's opinion if they do not live here. ever wonder why so many people think we americans are arrogant pricks?


    Settle down cowboy. I just thought it was a matter of respect, that's all. I think it would be safe to say that probably 90% of the people on the train are Americans. Not saying we own it by any means, but I wouldn't go to a Canadian bands web site and call them all a bunch of dipshit canadians. Never said if your not from another country you can't have an opinion. But you can make a point without calling an entire country dipshits. Please stop putting words in my mouth. :|
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
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    No, just wondering, are you an American or do you live in another country?
    why does this matter? can he have no opinion if he lives somewhere else??? it pisses me off when americans dismiss everyone else's opinion if they do not live here. ever wonder why so many people think we americans are arrogant pricks?


    Settle down cowboy. I just thought it was a matter of respect, that's all. I think it would be safe to say that probably 90% of the people on the train are Americans. Not saying we own it by any means, but I wouldn't go to a Canadian bands web site and call them all a bunch of dipshit canadians. Never said if your not from another country you can't have an opinion. But you can make a point without calling an entire country dipshits. Please stop putting words in my mouth. :|
    i would say less than 90% are americans. so don't go on a canadien band's board and critize canadiens ok? whether you like it or not, what america does affects nearly every country in the world, so be that as it may, america opens itself up to criticism from people affected by it's actions. you need to stop looking at it like people are making fun of you for criticizing your country and stop taking everything so personally. the same way you and others criticize obama because his decisions affect you, is because he is the leader of the free world and as such is open for criticism..

    it is just that people on here with politics similar to yours are blindly loyal and either can't see or refuse to understand why such criticisms occur. i seek understanding, because without understanding there can be no resolving anything at all...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Good post GST. But i'm a very proud american and if somebody from another country stepped in front of my face and said " you americans are all a bunch of dipshits" he would find himself laying flat on his back.
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    edited July 2010
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Good post GST. But i'm a very proud american and if somebody from another country stepped in front of my face and said " you americans are all a bunch of dipshits" he would find himself laying flat on his back.



    :lol::lol::lol:

    yeah right .... take a chill pill cowboy...... There are a lot of dipshit American's ...I can't see anyone thinking that all American's are dipshits, but maybe you need to jump back on your horse and ride along cowboy.... ;)

    By the way what is a dipshit? Maybe that word can't be communicated in another language....

    From one proud American to another! :)

    - the sun rises in the east and sets in the west!
    Post edited by Boxes&Books on
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    tonifig8 wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Good post GST. But i'm a very proud american and if somebody from another country stepped in front of my face and said " you americans are all a bunch of dipshits" he would find himself laying flat on his back.



    :lol::lol::lol:

    yeah right .... take a chill pill cowboy...... There are a lot of dipshit American's ...I can't see anyone thinking that all American's are dipshits, but maybe you need to jump back on your hourse and ride along cowboy.... ;)

    By the way what is a dipshit? Maybe that word can't be communicated in another language....

    From one proud American to another! :)

    - the sun rises in the east and sets in the west!


    I'm confused.......should I jump back on my horse or my house? :D


    Whatever....I started drinking early today so I should probably jump off the train for tonight. Have a good night PJ friends. I know i'm gonna. :thumbup:
  • breath123breath123 Posts: 397
    edited July 2010
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
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    No, just wondering, are you an American or do you live in another country?
    why does this matter? can he have no opinion if he lives somewhere else??? it pisses me off when americans dismiss everyone else's opinion if they do not live here. ever wonder why so many people think we americans are arrogant pricks?


    Settle down cowboy. I just thought it was a matter of respect, that's all. I think it would be safe to say that probably 90% of the people on the train are Americans. Not saying we own it by any means, but I wouldn't go to a Canadian bands web site and call them all a bunch of dipshit canadians. Never said if your not from another country you can't have an opinion. But you can make a point without calling an entire country dipshits. Please stop putting words in my mouth. :|

    I'm an American. I have my papers here to prove it if you like to see em.

    I think If you re-read my post, you will find I called the 18% of the Americans who believe BP are owed an an apology are dipshits. And they are, without a doubt.

    I have lots of friends in Arizona and not one of them agrees with the law. I could, then, by that logic state that in my poll 100% of Arizonans oppose the law.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Good post GST. But i'm a very proud american and if somebody from another country stepped in front of my face and said " you americans are all a bunch of dipshits" he would find himself laying flat on his back.

    with ya all the way on that.

    Godfather.
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    Godfather. wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Good post GST. But i'm a very proud american and if somebody from another country stepped in front of my face and said " you americans are all a bunch of dipshits" he would find himself laying flat on his back.

    with ya all the way on that.

    Godfather.

    Some men really make me laugh. Why the need to bring violence into it and act so tough? Just makes y'all sound immature. Plus, if you really behaved this way, you'd likely get your asses kicked.

    :lol::lol::lol:

    scb
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    scb wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Good post GST. But i'm a very proud american and if somebody from another country stepped in front of my face and said " you americans are all a bunch of dipshits" he would find himself laying flat on his back.

    with ya all the way on that.

    Godfather.

    Some men really make me laugh. Why the need to bring violence into it and act so tough? Just makes y'all sound immature. Plus, if you really behaved this way, you'd likely get your asses kicked.

    :lol::lol::lol:

    scb


    I am what I am
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    scb wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Good post GST. But i'm a very proud american and if somebody from another country stepped in front of my face and said " you americans are all a bunch of dipshits" he would find himself laying flat on his back.

    with ya all the way on that.

    Godfather.

    Some men really make me laugh. Why the need to bring violence into it and act so tough? Just makes y'all sound immature. Plus, if you really behaved this way, you'd likely get your asses kicked.

    :lol::lol::lol:

    scb

    me ? :lol::lol::lol: ohhh honey take a close look at your self sometime, everything has to be your way wrong or right and nobody understands right ??? poor baby it'll be alright. :D



    Godfather.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Good post GST. But i'm a very proud american and if somebody from another country stepped in front of my face and said " you americans are all a bunch of dipshits" he would find himself laying flat on his back.
    have you ever fought anyone for money? it is one thing to say you would put someone on their back and quite another thing to walk down an aisle and get into a cage and actually do it in front of people....i had 14 fights but i never hit anyone because of what they said to me, only because if i didnt hit them they were gonna knock me out or make me tap....which is different from what you are saying you would do...violence never settles anything.....

    it is like what carlin said..."if the champion is undisputed, then what is all of the fighting about????"
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Good post GST. But i'm a very proud american and if somebody from another country stepped in front of my face and said " you americans are all a bunch of dipshits" he would find himself laying flat on his back.
    have you ever fought anyone for money? it is one thing to say you would put someone on their back and quite another thing to walk down an aisle and get into a cage and actually do it in front of people....i had 14 fights but i never hit anyone because of what they said to me, only because if i didnt hit them they were gonna knock me out or make me tap....which is different from what you are saying you would do...violence never settles anything.....

    it is like what carlin said..."if the champion is undisputed, then what is all of the fighting about????"

    vert cool ,did you fight UFC ?

    Godfather.
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    OnTheEdge wrote:
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    No, just wondering, are you an American or do you live in another country?
    why does this matter? can he have no opinion if he lives somewhere else??? it pisses me off when americans dismiss everyone else's opinion if they do not live here. ever wonder why so many people think we americans are arrogant pricks?


    and especially so considering we tell the world what it should do and how it should behave. we've never had a problem sticking our noses into the affair's of another country or having an opinion on them.
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    how can anyone support this law? it legalizes racial profiling which is unconstitutional.
  • breath123breath123 Posts: 397
    OnTheEdge wrote:
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    No, just wondering, are you an American or do you live in another country?
    why does this matter? can he have no opinion if he lives somewhere else??? it pisses me off when americans dismiss everyone else's opinion if they do not live here. ever wonder why so many people think we americans are arrogant pricks?


    and especially so considering we tell the world what it should do and how it should behave. we've never had a problem sticking our noses into the affair's of another country or having an opinion on them.

    pepe huh? you sound kinda mexican....papers please?

    (yes, I'm being sarcastic)
  • Nothingman54Nothingman54 Posts: 2,251
    _outlaw wrote:
    how can anyone support this law? it legalizes racial profiling which is unconstitutional.

    I support it! It needs to be done. For our safety and to protect jobs. My wife and her co workers almost lost their jobs because illegals go to the hospital and don't have insurance, they give false info. Get free care and don't pay a fucking cent. When 50%+ do this it's gonna have an affect on a hospital. I wish my state had a law like AZ. I'm voting for a repub. For the first time. if you go through the process and come legally, great you have nothing to worry about, show your papers or whatever and be on your way. But if your not legit then you should go back to you came from and go through the correct process. Also, don't they already do this in airports. I have a brotherinlaw who's parents are from Pakistan and he gets fucked with everytime he goes to the airport. I don't hear anybody bitching about racial profiling at airports.
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    _outlaw wrote:
    how can anyone support this law? it legalizes racial profiling which is unconstitutional.

    I support it! It needs to be done. For our safety and to protect jobs. My wife and her co workers almost lost their jobs because illegals go to the hospital and don't have insurance, they give false info. Get free care and don't pay a fucking cent. When 50%+ do this it's gonna have an affect on a hospital. I wish my state had a law like AZ. I'm voting for a repub. For the first time. if you go through the process and come legally, great you have nothing to worry about, show your papers or whatever and be on your way. But if your not legit then you should go back to you came from and go through the correct process. Also, don't they already do this in airports. I have a brotherinlaw who's parents are from Pakistan and he gets fucked with everytime he goes to the airport. I don't hear anybody bitching about racial profiling at airports.
    I don't think the federal government itself should have the authority to do something that is very explicitly unconstitutional, let alone a fucking state. regardless of the reasons. but that's just me. i mean if, for example, a state that had a large percentage of gun violence wanted to outlaw guns tomorrow, everyone would be screaming that it's unconstitutional. but the constitution only matters when we want it to, right? so who gives a fuck about rights and all that nonsense. fuck mexicans and kill the illegals!

    and yes they do this in airports, just because you don't hear anyone bitching about it doesn't mean there wasn't a thread about that a few days ago. still unconstitutional. still wrong.
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    _outlaw wrote:
    how can anyone support this law? it legalizes racial profiling which is unconstitutional.

    I support it! It needs to be done. For our safety and to protect jobs. My wife and her co workers almost lost their jobs because illegals go to the hospital and don't have insurance, they give false info. Get free care and don't pay a fucking cent. When 50%+ do this it's gonna have an affect on a hospital. I wish my state had a law like AZ. I'm voting for a repub. For the first time. if you go through the process and come legally, great you have nothing to worry about, show your papers or whatever and be on your way. But if your not legit then you should go back to you came from and go through the correct process. Also, don't they already do this in airports. I have a brotherinlaw who's parents are from Pakistan and he gets fucked with everytime he goes to the airport. I don't hear anybody bitching about racial profiling at airports.

    U.S. citizens do this all the time too. You don't have to give false info, whether you have papers or not.
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    _outlaw wrote:
    how can anyone support this law? it legalizes racial profiling which is unconstitutional.

    I support it! It needs to be done. For our safety and to protect jobs. My wife and her co workers almost lost their jobs because illegals go to the hospital and don't have insurance, they give false info. Get free care and don't pay a fucking cent. When 50%+ do this it's gonna have an affect on a hospital. I wish my state had a law like AZ. I'm voting for a repub. For the first time. if you go through the process and come legally, great you have nothing to worry about, show your papers or whatever and be on your way. But if your not legit then you should go back to you came from and go through the correct process. Also, don't they already do this in airports. I have a brotherinlaw who's parents are from Pakistan and he gets fucked with everytime he goes to the airport. I don't hear anybody bitching about racial profiling at airports.


    Why do you always need to state that you aren't a republican or that you never voted for republican?.... In most of your post related to this subject you just about always state that, why? Why would voting for a republican change anything? Some republicans want to give amnesty.
    You should vote for a racist or a bigot -

    Everyone at airports coming in from another country needs to provide a passport, "EVERYONE"=

    You obviously don't understand how complicated this law is and how this law doesn't fix anything, however it does hurt AZ's pockets. It really is simply creating financial problems, equality problems, DIVISION amongst AZ citizens, DIVISION nationwide, and much more.....but why discuss it here...you obviously don't care and you obviously don't understand........
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    tonifig8 wrote:


    DIVISION amongst AZ citizens, DIVISION nationwide,.

    Right, it sure has. I'm guessing:

    AZ Citizens 80% for, 20% against
    US Citizens 70% for, 30% against
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    racial profiling ......just another whinnie ass excuse, please quit with that crap you guys use the constution when it works for you but bitch about it when it dose not and using the race card to protest the AZ law is chicken shit.

    Godfather.
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    Godfather. wrote:
    racial profiling ......just another whinnie ass excuse, please quit with that crap you guys use the constution when it works for you but bitch about it when it dose not and using the race card to protest the AZ law is chicken shit.

    Godfather.
    1. i dare you to name one time i bitched about the constitution when it didn't "work for me". seriously. try to name one time.
    2. the only one using the constitution only when it works for them is you. i mean shit, i'm sure if this were the mid-1800s, you'd be pissed about that whole slavery being abolished thing.
    3. your logic is wrong. you basically admit that racial profiling is unconstitutional (when you say "you guys use the constitution when it works for you" you're basically agreeing that it works for us in this case). even if we bitched about the constitution when it didn't work for us, which you're absolutely being a complete liar about, that's still wrong. what would be correct is for you to argue that the constitution should be applied in every single case. including this one. anything else is you just being a hypocrite, a liar, and in most cases, a dumb ass.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    _outlaw wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    racial profiling ......just another whinnie ass excuse, please quit with that crap you guys use the constution when it works for you but bitch about it when it dose not and using the race card to protest the AZ law is chicken shit.

    Godfather.
    1. i dare you to name one time i bitched about the constitution when it didn't "work for me". seriously. try to name one time.
    2. the only one using the constitution only when it works for them is you. i mean shit, i'm sure if this were the mid-1800s, you'd be pissed about that whole slavery being abolished thing.
    3. your logic is wrong. you basically admit that racial profiling is unconstitutional (when you say "you guys use the constitution when it works for you" you're basically agreeing that it works for us in this case). even if we bitched about the constitution when it didn't work for us, which you're absolutely being a complete liar about, that's still wrong. what would be correct is for you to argue that the constitution should be applied in every single case. including this one. anything else is you just being a hypocrite, a liar, and in most cases, a dumb ass.

    no ..I not a whinnie ass bitch, some of you seem to think this AZ law is just to discreminate against the Mexican people as a whole and it's not, there have been huge crimes commited by people crossing illegally
    like grug running murder stealing etc. not to mention the millions of dollars it cost the US tax payer every year to deal with this shit and it just keeps happening and as soon has sombody has the balls to try and do something about it some of you start crying and whinning then using the constution and the race card to back up your bullshit claims so if you want to see a real dumb ass look no futher than your self.some of you are all about rights as long as you aprove of who they help and don't help so save your bs for someone else I'm tired of reading your crap.

    Godfather.
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    _outlaw wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    racial profiling ......just another whinnie ass excuse, please quit with that crap you guys use the constution when it works for you but bitch about it when it dose not and using the race card to protest the AZ law is chicken shit.

    Godfather.
    1. i dare you to name one time i bitched about the constitution when it didn't "work for me". seriously. try to name one time.
    2. the only one using the constitution only when it works for them is you. i mean shit, i'm sure if this were the mid-1800s, you'd be pissed about that whole slavery being abolished thing.
    3. your logic is wrong. you basically admit that racial profiling is unconstitutional (when you say "you guys use the constitution when it works for you" you're basically agreeing that it works for us in this case). even if we bitched about the constitution when it didn't work for us, which you're absolutely being a complete liar about, that's still wrong. what would be correct is for you to argue that the constitution should be applied in every single case. including this one. anything else is you just being a hypocrite, a liar, and in most cases, a dumb ass.



    I may be wrong here because I do not know the constitution word for word, but why should someone living in the United Staes ILLEGALY have constitutional rights? They are not a citizen so therefore the constitution wouldn't apply to them.
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