So, with Chris wanting 75% and the drummer out of the band in 2013 instead of a 33/33/33 split... is the reason for not bringing back former members to get more of the loot themselves?
So now they get 50/50? Or is Chris still greedy, and got more than Rich?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Checked tickets for the Crowes show in St. Paul. They are using the “half house” setup for the arena, capacity 7,000. Using the select a seat option, I counted that somewhere around 600 tickets have been sold, with about a 1/3 of those tickets for sale via Ticketmaster resell.
Unless there’s some sort of marketing push, this show gets moved to a different venue , or canceled.
It’s sad. Such a great band but with the size of the venues and the ticket sales so far I have a bad feeling about this tour and most importantly my show that I have tickets for. I’m hoping the just change venues to the Greek Theatre or something more intimate. Maybe the announce a kick ass co headliner and tickets sell fast.
I was planning on going with a group of 12-14 people. We want to be on the lawn. Not upgraded to some shitty back of the house seats. Might have to rethink this, lol
The Armory is a Live Nation venue in MSP that holds over 8k. Surprised they went with what will be a 25% full Xcel. I imagine the brothers get paid a flat rate, so no difference to them. First Ave would have been ideal, but not LN.
I was planning on going with a group of 12-14 people. We want to be on the lawn. Not upgraded to some shitty back of the house seats. Might have to rethink this, lol
Lol I’m sure you can still be on the lawn if that’s what you desire. I just wouldn’t be surprised if they offer you closer seats
they simply can't expect a reunion after only 5 years apart to sell that well. it's not like it was 20 years. 5 years is a fairly normal break between tours these days, and especially when it's not the original band. maybe they thought that doing the whole record would do it, but the core base of BC fans doesn't even care about the first record, do they?
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
they simply can't expect a reunion after only 5 years apart to sell that well. it's not like it was 20 years. 5 years is a fairly normal break between tours these days, and especially when it's not the original band. maybe they thought that doing the whole record would do it, but the core base of BC fans doesn't even care about the first record, do they?
The "Core" are so far out there they and they don't even know it. They are stuck in 1996 or 2005. And that's it.
I consider myself a BIG Crowes fan. They are my favorite group. But I cant consider myself a hard core because I feel im not as mental as they are. So that's one element missing in sales. The Hardcore's are angry and not buying tickets.
So many bands now are touring in support of a BIG album they had in the past.
Lots of great Canadian bands are doing. They don't get bashed for doing it. We have welcomed it.
The Crowes are now doing it and the hardcores are up in arms.
I don't know how, realistically, they think Chris & Rich can get the old band back together. Because this is the biggest complaint by the BC Hardcore's. Lets look at it ...
Steve just released a book bashing the brothers to no end.
The "Core" are so far out there they and they don't even know it. They are stuck in 1996 or 2005. And that's it.
I consider myself a BIG Crowes fan. They are my favorite group. But I cant consider myself a hard core because I feel im not as mental as they are. So that's one element missing in sales. The Hardcore's are angry and not buying tickets.
So many bands now are touring in support of a BIG album they had in the past.
Lots of great Canadian bands are doing. They don't get bashed for doing it. We have welcomed it.
The Crowes are now doing it and the hardcores are up in arms.
I don't know how, realistically, they think Chris & Rich can get the old band back together. Because this is the biggest complaint by the BC Hardcore's. Lets look at it ...
Steve just released a book bashing the brothers to no end.
Marc Ford is not interested in big tours anymore
Ed Harsch is dead for Christ sakes.
Like how is this supposed to happen?
I think it's different when you have canadian bands doing it. you almost expect "lower tier" bands to do it as a way to generate revenue. I think people assume Chris and Rich don't need the money, and it seems to go against what they've always, or at least somewhat historically, been about.
I personally love it. Went to the Big Wreck ILMO show, the headstones POH shows (3 of them), and I would have gone to the Tea Party shows had I not been in mexico.
I know the Hip did it, and i will always regret not going to that show. I SO wanted to go see them when they played it at that 700 seater bar in Minneapolis, but I couldn't get anyone to go.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
The "Core" are so far out there they and they don't even know it. They are stuck in 1996 or 2005. And that's it.
I consider myself a BIG Crowes fan. They are my favorite group. But I cant consider myself a hard core because I feel im not as mental as they are. So that's one element missing in sales. The Hardcore's are angry and not buying tickets.
So many bands now are touring in support of a BIG album they had in the past.
Lots of great Canadian bands are doing. They don't get bashed for doing it. We have welcomed it.
The Crowes are now doing it and the hardcores are up in arms.
I don't know how, realistically, they think Chris & Rich can get the old band back together. Because this is the biggest complaint by the BC Hardcore's. Lets look at it ...
Steve just released a book bashing the brothers to no end.
Marc Ford is not interested in big tours anymore
Ed Harsch is dead for Christ sakes.
Like how is this supposed to happen?
Is Steve's book that much worse than what the brothers have said about each other in public? I don't think it's totally out of the question that he'll play with them again. Plus Sven on bass.
Second guitar has been a revolving door so totally cool with the dude from Earthless. And the situation on keys is certainly understandable.
Frankly I think even with that lineup, the sheds, ticket prices, and SYMM are variables that will put people off. If you took the current lineup and booked 2k capacity rooms with $60ish tickets, I'm all over it. Even better if they're playing material from their whole catalogue.
The "Core" are so far out there they and they don't even know it. They are stuck in 1996 or 2005. And that's it.
I consider myself a BIG Crowes fan. They are my favorite group. But I cant consider myself a hard core because I feel im not as mental as they are. So that's one element missing in sales. The Hardcore's are angry and not buying tickets.
So many bands now are touring in support of a BIG album they had in the past.
Lots of great Canadian bands are doing. They don't get bashed for doing it. We have welcomed it.
The Crowes are now doing it and the hardcores are up in arms.
I don't know how, realistically, they think Chris & Rich can get the old band back together. Because this is the biggest complaint by the BC Hardcore's. Lets look at it ...
Steve just released a book bashing the brothers to no end.
Marc Ford is not interested in big tours anymore
Ed Harsch is dead for Christ sakes.
Like how is this supposed to happen?
I think it's different when you have canadian bands doing it. you almost expect "lower tier" bands to do it as a way to generate revenue. I think people assume Chris and Rich don't need the money, and it seems to go against what they've always, or at least somewhat historically, been about.
I personally love it. Went to the Big Wreck ILMO show, the headstones POH shows (3 of them), and I would have gone to the Tea Party shows had I not been in mexico.
I know the Hip did it, and i will always regret not going to that show. I SO wanted to go see them when they played it at that 700 seater bar in Minneapolis, but I couldn't get anyone to go.
I would've killed to see one of those ILMO shows down here in the States
johnny colt’s stage presence suggested to me he was a “douche.” steve’s book makes it clear he was anything but. my apologies.
I disagree, will. I think steve is probably glad to be away from the madness. only steve knows how he feels.
If I had known then what I know now...
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So now they get 50/50? Or is Chris still greedy, and got more than Rich?
Tom O.
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now that would be going to far
Unless there’s some sort of marketing push, this show gets moved to a different venue , or canceled.
Somebody at Live Nation is going to get demoted or worse for scheduling this tour in amphitheaters.
SHOULD
HAVE
SEEN
THEM
IN
2013.
AAAARGHHHHH
-EV 8/14/93
Ya some markets are selling better than others. I looked at a few and Atlanta is doing pretty good. Nashville night 1 is also on track.
Some are also scary low tho.
-EV 8/14/93
The "Core" are so far out there they and they don't even know it. They are stuck in 1996 or 2005. And that's it.
I consider myself a BIG Crowes fan. They are my favorite group. But I cant consider myself a hard core because I feel im not as mental as they are. So that's one element missing in sales. The Hardcore's are angry and not buying tickets.
So many bands now are touring in support of a BIG album they had in the past.
Lots of great Canadian bands are doing. They don't get bashed for doing it. We have welcomed it.
The Crowes are now doing it and the hardcores are up in arms.
I don't know how, realistically, they think Chris & Rich can get the old band back together. Because this is the biggest complaint by the BC Hardcore's. Lets look at it ...
Steve just released a book bashing the brothers to no end.
Marc Ford is not interested in big tours anymore
Ed Harsch is dead for Christ sakes.
Like how is this supposed to happen?
You seen Ronnie James Dio lately? Fucker can still wail from beyond the grave!
I personally love it. Went to the Big Wreck ILMO show, the headstones POH shows (3 of them), and I would have gone to the Tea Party shows had I not been in mexico.
I know the Hip did it, and i will always regret not going to that show. I SO wanted to go see them when they played it at that 700 seater bar in Minneapolis, but I couldn't get anyone to go.
-EV 8/14/93
Second guitar has been a revolving door so totally cool with the dude from Earthless. And the situation on keys is certainly understandable.
Frankly I think even with that lineup, the sheds, ticket prices, and SYMM are variables that will put people off. If you took the current lineup and booked 2k capacity rooms with $60ish tickets, I'm all over it. Even better if they're playing material from their whole catalogue.
I Mother Earth - Scenery & Fish
the Tea Party - Transmission
Big Wreck - In loving memory
enjoyed them all and I will enjoy the Crowes next summer too.
-EV 8/14/93
I disagree, will. I think steve is probably glad to be away from the madness. only steve knows how he feels.
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
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