the death penalty

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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    ed243421 wrote:
    johnny p

    please check out the first post in this thread

    Whats your point? Nobody in here is taking the side of a murderer. thats ludicrous. I cant see where you deduced that from.

    I think he's pointing out that he's the original poster, and that therefore that means he's up to speed. Clearly, he's not as he keeps making this tired and utterly baseless point, no matter how many times what we post proves that it's ludicrous. Some people have just decided they're right, and no facts, evidence or stronger argument will convince them otherwise.



    "I will never apologise... I don't care what the facts are." GHWB
    hey championship
    same goes for you, Sir

    you have decided you are right
    have you not?

    im pretty sure we all have
    i know i am right... fact

    :mrgreen:

    you are right are you not?
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  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    speaking of primates killing for "no reasons".......when you get time, look into the process of male lions eliminating the blood line of the previous pride leader.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    ed243421 wrote:
    ...
    one cannot murder a murderer
    one can only execute a murderer

    by law murder is killing with intent to cause death. therefore, execution which is killling with intent to cause the death of an individual is murder. state sanctioned murder is still murder. pretending otherwise is just semantic folly.
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    ajedigecko wrote:
    speaking of primates killing for "no reasons".......when you get time, look into the process of male lions eliminating the blood line of the previous pride leader.
    that too
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    chadwick wrote:
    hey championship
    same goes for you, Sir

    you have decided you are right
    have you not?

    im pretty sure we all have
    i know i am right... fact

    :mrgreen:

    you are right are you not?

    can something subjective be fact?
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    ed243421 wrote:
    ...
    one cannot murder a murderer
    one can only execute a murderer

    by law murder is killing with intent to cause death. therefore, execution which is killling with intent to cause the death of an individual is murder. state sanctioned murder is still murder. pretending otherwise is just semantic folly.
    i agree with you both
    it is a unique situation
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    I am tired; my heart is
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    no more forever."

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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    chadwick wrote:
    hey championship
    same goes for you, Sir

    you have decided you are right
    have you not?

    im pretty sure we all have
    i know i am right... fact

    :mrgreen:

    you are right are you not?

    can something subjective be fact?
    i suppose so
    in this thread anyway
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    chadwick wrote:
    ed243421 wrote:
    ...
    one cannot murder a murderer
    one can only execute a murderer

    by law murder is killing with intent to cause death. therefore, execution which is killling with intent to cause the death of an individual is murder. state sanctioned murder is still murder. pretending otherwise is just semantic folly.
    i agree with you both
    it is a unique situation

    you cant agree with both of us chad. we are diametrically opposed. unless of course you agree execution is murder but justified murder. is that the case here?
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    chimpanzees murder young that is not their own. and they kill when an 'alien' chimp wanders into their turf. is that killing for no reason i wonder? :think:
    nasty little shit those chimps
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
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    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    chadwick wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    hey championship
    same goes for you, Sir

    you have decided you are right
    have you not?

    im pretty sure we all have
    i know i am right... fact

    :mrgreen:

    you are right are you not?

    can something subjective be fact?
    i suppose so
    in this thread anyway

    well my father always told me a fact is a lie and a half so... ;)8-)
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    you cant agree with both of us chad. we are diametrically opposed. unless of course you agree execution is murder but justified murder. is that the case here?
    i would say yes
    sure its murder
    but who cares?
    i dont

    seriously

    it's the same as defending your family from a home intruder @ 2am.
    intruder inflicts harm... intruder gets shot

    its like that but drug through the courts and prison time
    it should be simple
    when found guilty... (in some cases it is immediate)
    pretty much within 24 hrs of the guilty judge's hammer knocking home
    last supper, fucker...
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    chadwick wrote:
    you cant agree with both of us chad. we are diametrically opposed. unless of course you agree execution is murder but justified murder. is that the case here?
    i would say yes
    sure its murder
    but who cares?
    i dont

    seriously

    it's the same as defending your family from a home intruder @ 2am.
    intruder inflicts harm... intruder gets shot

    its like that but drug through the courts and prison time
    it should be simple
    when found guilty... (in some cases it is immediate)
    pretty much within 24 hrs of the guilty judge's hammer knocking home
    last supper, fucker...


    but not all home invaders mean to do your family harm. they come for your stuff and then leave. what if you kill someone who had no intention of causing injury to your family? and no im not saying you should wait until the intruder has a knife at the throat of your child. im just curious how one makes that decision to end a life solely because someone has intruded on their property.
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  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    I do. How about:

    *No punishment for anything!
    *Enjoy life! Live without consequences!
    Or maybe...
    *Anarchy is the best way!

    :lol:

    haha, very funny. :lol: :roll:

    Actually, The other side of this discussion that gets kinda lost (maybe it was discussed back on page 37b...)
    is whether or not you think the death Pnalty is worse that living in maximum security prison forever for someone like this kid who just axed that girl and her daughter.

    Personally, I'd take the DP if I had to chose. I feel its the easy way out.



    No way!! Do you ever watch TLC or the Discovery Channel. They have shows on Death Row where these selfish cowards fight for the rest of their lives trying to get off death row. They can dish it out but they can't take it. They have no remorse for these victims while they are carrying out these crimes, then once they're on death row they expect sympathy for themselves....fuck-em.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    chadwick wrote:
    you cant agree with both of us chad. we are diametrically opposed. unless of course you agree execution is murder but justified murder. is that the case here?
    i would say yes
    sure its murder
    but who cares?
    i dont

    seriously

    it's the same as defending your family from a home intruder @ 2am.
    intruder inflicts harm... intruder gets shot

    its like that but drug through the courts and prison time
    it should be simple
    when found guilty... (in some cases it is immediate)
    pretty much within 24 hrs of the guilty judge's hammer knocking home
    last supper, fucker...


    but not all home invaders mean to do your family harm. they come for your stuff and then leave. what if you kill someone who had no intention of causing injury to your family? and no im not saying you should wait until the intruder has a knife at the throat of your child. im just curious how one makes that decision to end a life solely because someone has intruded on their property.
    i did say intruder inflicts harm, yes?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    chadwick wrote:
    chimpanzees murder young that is not their own. and they kill when an 'alien' chimp wanders into their turf. is that killing for no reason i wonder? :think:
    nasty little shit those chimps


    so much like humans.. or should that be the other way round?? :think:
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    chadwick wrote:

    but not all home invaders mean to do your family harm. they come for your stuff and then leave. what if you kill someone who had no intention of causing injury to your family? and no im not saying you should wait until the intruder has a knife at the throat of your child. im just curious how one makes that decision to end a life solely because someone has intruded on their property.
    i did say intruder inflicts harm, yes?

    some consider stealing and B&E as inflicting harm. so im just making sure. same page and all that. ;)
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    chadwick wrote:
    chimpanzees murder young that is not their own. and they kill when an 'alien' chimp wanders into their turf. is that killing for no reason i wonder? :think:
    nasty little shit those chimps


    so much like humans.. or should that be the other way round?? :think:
    that one chimp mangled some lady and was attacking ppl
    ripped some lady's face off
    attacked a cop
    cop shot the chimp

    chimps or humans
    humans or chimps
    what was that one movie
    planet of the apes? :think:
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    chadwick wrote:
    you cant agree with both of us chad. we are diametrically opposed. unless of course you agree execution is murder but justified murder. is that the case here?
    i would say yes
    sure its murder
    but who cares?
    i dont

    seriously

    it's the same as defending your family from a home intruder @ 2am.
    intruder inflicts harm... intruder gets shot

    its like that but drug through the courts and prison time
    it should be simple
    when found guilty... (in some cases it is immediate)
    pretty much within 24 hrs of the guilty judge's hammer knocking home
    last supper, fucker...


    but not all home invaders mean to do your family harm. they come for your stuff and then leave. what if you kill someone who had no intention of causing injury to your family? and no im not saying you should wait until the intruder has a knife at the throat of your child. im just curious how one makes that decision to end a life solely because someone has intruded on their property.



    You see the little girl in my pic? She is my world, my life. I would give my life away in a heartbeat to save hers. If a pedophile murdering rapist ever entered my house in the middle of the night, I would put a 9mm in his back while he's trying to run away. Will I be sentenced? In this politicaly correct country....probably. But he would never come back to my house..........or anyone elses for that matter. He would never have the opportunity to harm anyone ever again. And if he's just there to rob me? Sucks to be him....how was I to know. You break into someones home in the middle of the night, you have the right to be shot.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    chadwick wrote:

    but not all home invaders mean to do your family harm. they come for your stuff and then leave. what if you kill someone who had no intention of causing injury to your family? and no im not saying you should wait until the intruder has a knife at the throat of your child. im just curious how one makes that decision to end a life solely because someone has intruded on their property.
    i did say intruder inflicts harm, yes?

    some consider stealing and B&E as inflicting harm. so im just making sure. same page and all that. ;)
    inflicting harm
    injurying someone
    force them into some situation they do not agree with
    a home invasion
    hostage in your own home

    happens a lot
    domestic violence
    breaking & entering
    holy shit

    more cops are injured during household calls than any other
    pretty bad stuff inside some homes
    dungeons in some cases

    this is when the death sentence comes into play, yes/no?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    chadwick wrote:
    that one chimp mangled some lady and was attacking ppl
    ripped some lady's face off
    attacked a cop
    cop shot the chimp

    chimps or humans
    humans or chimps
    what was that one movie
    planet of the apes? :think:

    and interestingly in planet of the apes it was the gorillas as the muscle when of the three primates depicted in that film, the chimpanzee is the most vicious. but of course gorillas look the part and so theyre given the part. damn hollywood. anyhoo...
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