if a family member of mine becomes a thing.......i will only have sympathy for the innocent victim.
I don't believe you. And I don't think you would consider someone you truly know & love to be a thing. And if others considered someone you love to be a thing, it would break your heart. And breaking the hearts of an innocent family is not right or productive, whether it's the family of the victim or the family of the "thing".
Of course I don't know you, and maybe you've had all kinds of experience with this kind if thing that I don't know about. But this is my theory anyway.
My Uncle, always an upstanding, close member of the family, was just convicted and sentenced for being a pedophile. Me = wash hands of that rat bastard for the rest of my life. My mom, on the other hand, still communicates with her brother. I guess it all depends. Probably easier to let go of an uncle than a brother.
poke out his eyes and cut off his balls(he can keep his ears and limbs for now)...........i would expect the same for any member of my family.
as eyed stated......i would wash myself clean, i never truly knew the person anyway.
live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
As a family we had plans, dreams and a lot of things coming, like everybody's family, in a second all that could change and you have to live a new reality, the death penalty is not going to solve that new reality but keeping the person in prison forever is like killing it in a way.
a little bit more than 6 years ago.
"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
Neil deGrasse Tyson
I would agree with that to a point, but there are many major human rights and racial issues that I disagree on with my parents, so there comes a point where you choose to agree with how you were brought up or not.
poke out his eyes and cut off his balls(he can keep his ears and limbs for now)...........i would expect the same for any member of my family.
as eyed stated......i would wash myself clean, i never truly knew the person anyway.
ok, but washing your hands clean of the person is quite a bit different from sending them to their death. what if this was your child that was convicted of this crime? would you want them sentenced to death? if so, I'd have a hard time distinguishing one monster from the other.
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poke out his eyes and cut off his balls(he can keep his ears and limbs for now)...........i would expect the same for any member of my family.
as eyed stated......i would wash myself clean, i never truly knew the person anyway.
ok, but washing your hands clean of the person is quite a bit different from sending them to their death. what if this was your child that was convicted of this crime? would you want them sentenced to death? if so, I'd have a hard time distinguishing one monster from the other.
i would accept the punishment for the behavior that warrants such punsihment........then as a parent, i would ask myself, what could i have done to help?
then the answer would reveal itself......my child became an adult and made a decision that is totally unacceptable.
there you go......now you can label me however you would like.
live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
i would accept the punishment for the behavior that warrants such punsihment........then as a parent, i would ask myself, what could i have done to help?
then the answer would reveal itself......my child became an adult and made a decision that is totally unacceptable.
there you go......now you can label me however you would like.
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St. Paul 2014
because I personally can't believe a person who knows what it's like to be a parent would EVER actually accept a death sentence for their child in the name of justice, that's why.
why is the life of the person that killed someone I love, considered an equal trade for my loved one? how can some total stranger assume that by sentencing the offender to death, things will automatically be squared up?
It's not and it never will be.
and please don't forget that the offender has a family too. brothers, sisters, parents, grandparents. why should they have to see their loved one murdered? they are innocent victims too.
it never squares it up, never will.
what it does do is stop the maniac thing from destroying other people's lives.
simple shit.
at this point it isn't even about revenge.
it's about stopping a twisted piece of shit from destroying more lives.
So if there was another way to stop them, would you support that method instead?
if a family member of mine becomes a thing.......i will only have sympathy for the innocent victim.
I don't believe you. And I don't think you would consider someone you truly know & love to be a thing. And if others considered someone you love to be a thing, it would break your heart. And breaking the hearts of an innocent family is not right or productive, whether it's the family of the victim or the family of the "thing".
Of course I don't know you, and maybe you've had all kinds of experience with this kind if thing that I don't know about. But this is my theory anyway.
poke out his eyes and cut off his balls(he can keep his ears and limbs for now)...........i would expect the same for any member of my family.
as eyed stated......i would wash myself clean, i never truly knew the person anyway.
What if it was someone you really did know to be a good person - like your mom or child or something - and they just had a psychotic break?
because I personally can't believe a person who knows what it's like to be a parent would EVER actually accept a death sentence for their child in the name of justice, that's why.
Plus, it's not even about just accepting it. Would he actually feel the same way, where he supported and encouraged it and wanted it, if it were his child? That's my question.
What if it was someone you really did know to be a good person - like your mom or child or something - and they just had a psychotic break?
psychotic breaks are fucked.
"get a grip on yourself" is what i would say.
rape, torture, murder...
mega prison terms.
keep fuckin around when free and the next maniac offense will bring on a swift bullet.
i am all for imprisonment but when they keep destroying lives... wham kaboom crack goes the .357 behind the ear.
simplistic and understandable.
very easy.
very much needed.
we have always needed this and we always will.
some "things" can never be helped and cured.
why keep the revolving door open?
serial child molesters, serial rapists, serial killers... they swing swiftly when their necks are strung tightly in a noose.
believe it or not, its a true story.
btw, i love my sanctuary and meditation garden with the enlightened Buddha.
it's butterflies, wild horses, cool mountain streams and fresh air.
hummingbirds landing in my hair
a flower?
no.
just a warm feeling of peace.
because I personally can't believe a person who knows what it's like to be a parent would EVER actually accept a death sentence for their child in the name of justice, that's why.
What if it was someone you really did know to be a good person - like your mom or child or something - and they just had a psychotic break?
psychotic breaks are fucked.
"get a grip on yourself" is what i would say.
rape, torture, murder...
mega prison terms.
keep fuckin around when free and the next maniac offense will bring on a swift bullet.
i am all for imprisonment but when they keep destroying lives... wham kaboom crack goes the .357 behind the ear.
simplistic and understandable.
very easy.
very much needed.
we have always needed this and we always will.
some "things" can never be helped and cured.
why keep the revolving door open?
serial child molesters, serial rapists, serial killers... they swing swiftly when their necks are strung tightly in a noose.
believe it or not, its a true story.
btw, i love my sanctuary and meditation garden with the enlightened Buddha.
it's butterflies, wild horses, cool mountain streams and fresh air.
hummingbirds landing in my hair
a flower?
no.
just a warm feeling of peace.
do not make me spank you.
:twisted:
oh and btw,
depending on how heinous the crime, "the thing" will be executed after first offense against humanity.
one thing i've noticed in certain peoples comments here, is that there seems to be an awful lot of talk about child molesters and rapists and all the things that should happen to them. this thread is about the death penalty in general. i'd just like to take a moment to remind you that it's not just child molesters and rapists that murder and face the death penalty.
it's like you have tunnel vision on those crimes only? do you still advocate the death penalty for people who murder in other ways?
what about someone who drink drives and kills someone? death penalty? or someone that is talking on their phone while driving, not paying attention and kills someone? death penalty?
because I personally can't believe a person who knows what it's like to be a parent would EVER actually accept a death sentence for their child in the name of justice, that's why.
one thing i've noticed in certain peoples comments here, is that there seems to be an awful lot of talk about child molesters and rapists and all the things that should happen to them. this thread is about the death penalty in general. i'd just like to take a moment to remind you that it's not just child molesters and rapists that murder and face the death penalty.
it's like you have tunnel vision on those crimes only? do you still advocate the death penalty for people who murder in other ways?
what about someone who drink drives and kills someone? death penalty? or someone that is talking on their phone while driving, not paying attention and kills someone? death penalty?
again, like i've said a few other times to different folks in here.
are you out of your skull?
some of the comments in here are very much out of control and struggling.
This thread is so all over the place. I'd really like to get some straight, honest answers from all of you who are pro-death penalty.
1. My understanding of the positions I've heard is that anyone who murders, rapes, or molests should be sentenced to death. Murder by drunk driving should warrant a death sentence if the person has ever driven drunk before. In all cases, it doesn't matter whether the person is mentally ill (even if just for a moment) or whether he is likely to do it again. Do I have all that right? Is that how you all feel?
2. What about minors?
3. Only one of you has answered the question about whether or not you have experienced the murder of a loved one. Have you or not?
one thing i've noticed in certain peoples comments here, is that there seems to be an awful lot of talk about child molesters and rapists and all the things that should happen to them. this thread is about the death penalty in general. i'd just like to take a moment to remind you that it's not just child molesters and rapists that murder and face the death penalty.
it's like you have tunnel vision on those crimes only? do you still advocate the death penalty for people who murder in other ways?
what about someone who drink drives and kills someone? death penalty? or someone that is talking on their phone while driving, not paying attention and kills someone? death penalty?
again, like i've said a few other times to different folks in here.
are you out of your skull?
some of the comments in here are very much out of control and struggling.
unreal.
Maybe I'm just blind, but I didn't see where you answered her question.
This thread is so all over the place. I'd really like to get some straight, honest answers from all of you who are pro-death penalty.
1. My understanding of the positions I've heard is that anyone who murders, rapes, or molests should be sentenced to death. Murder by drunk driving should warrant a death sentence if the person has ever driven drunk before. In all cases, it doesn't matter whether the person is mentally ill (even if just for a moment) or whether he is likely to do it again. Do I have all that right? Is that how you all feel?
2. What about minors?
3. Only one of you has answered the question about whether or not you have experienced the murder of a loved one. Have you or not?
like i have stated 1300 times already.
bepending on how heinous the crime.
serial killers, serial rapists, serial child molesters... these kinds of beasts are done in my book.
drunk driving is an all together different ball game.
drunk driving and harming ppl is not breaking into their home and torturing the innocent for 3 or 4 days then skinning them alive then eating them.
btw, some of you slay me...
minors are minors.
they are generally stupid as hell.
my loved ones have never been murdered.
have my loved ones murdered? yes... WWII & vietnam.
one thing i've noticed in certain peoples comments here, is that there seems to be an awful lot of talk about child molesters and rapists and all the things that should happen to them. this thread is about the death penalty in general. i'd just like to take a moment to remind you that it's not just child molesters and rapists that murder and face the death penalty.
it's like you have tunnel vision on those crimes only? do you still advocate the death penalty for people who murder in other ways?
what about someone who drink drives and kills someone? death penalty? or someone that is talking on their phone while driving, not paying attention and kills someone? death penalty?
again, like i've said a few other times to different folks in here.
are you out of your skull?
some of the comments in here are very much out of control and struggling.
unreal.
out of my skull? it's a pretty damn straight forward question. why don't you answer it.
drunk driving is an all together different ball game.
drunk driving and harming ppl is not breaking into their home and torturing the innocent for 3 or 4 days then skinning them alive then eating them.
nar chadwick. that's where you are wrong. losing someone you love because they were killed by a drunk driver still makes them dead. gone forever. their families feel the same pain.
drunk driving is an all together different ball game.
drunk driving and harming ppl is not breaking into their home and torturing the innocent for 3 or 4 days then skinning them alive then eating them.
nar chadwick. that's where you are wrong. losing someone you love because they were killed by a drunk driver still makes them dead. gone forever. their families feel the same pain.
true as hell.
i cant dispute your words.
but are the drunk drivers serial killers, serial rapists, and serial child molesters?
fuck no they are not.
drunk drivers killing ppl with their cars are dumb as hell and should be punished.
i find it extremely odd that decent kind ppl would defend the life of a maniac or a thing.
to me that is straight up weird as fuck.
i am completely against the death penalty under any circumstances. that's my point. you said you have never been a victim yet you have so much anger directed at a selective murderers only. to me, that's hypocritical.
the death penalty doesn't bring peace or healing to the victims families no matter how the person died. you can't spend the rest of your life focussing on that anger otherwise it poisons you and you become a victim all over again. it destroys you, messes with you and it just never stops. you spend more time thinking of revenge and less time on honoring your loved ones memory and remembering the happy times. you have to somehow let go and have faith that the judical system will imprison the person once they are found guilty so that they can't hurt anyone else.
i find it extremely odd that decent kind ppl would defend the life of a maniac or a thing.
to me that is straight up weird as fuck.
i am completely against the death penalty under any circumstances. that's my point. you said you have never been a victim yet you have so much anger directed at a selective murderers only. to me, that's hypocritical.
the death penalty doesn't bring peace or healing to the victims families no matter how the person died. you can't spend the rest of your life focussing on that anger otherwise it poisons you and you become a victim all over again. it destroys you, messes with you and it just never stops. you spend more time thinking of revenge and less time on honoring your loved ones memory and remembering the happy times. you have to somehow let go and have faith that the judical system will imprison the person once they are found guilty so that they can't hurt anyone else.
i have almost zero anger in my entire being.
i am pretty god damn thrilled to be honest with you.
why in the world would i be angry?
i haven't an angry bone in my body.
what i do have is zero tolerance for cruelty.
it makes me happy when cruelty loses.
it's that simple.
anger?
it's not anger at all.
it's happiness.
it is a frickin carnival.
i kid you not.
you should try it sometime.
it is a hoot.
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as eyed stated......i would wash myself clean, i never truly knew the person anyway.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
a little bit more than 6 years ago.
Neil deGrasse Tyson
Why not (V) (°,,,,°) (V) ?
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ok, but washing your hands clean of the person is quite a bit different from sending them to their death. what if this was your child that was convicted of this crime? would you want them sentenced to death? if so, I'd have a hard time distinguishing one monster from the other.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
then the answer would reveal itself......my child became an adult and made a decision that is totally unacceptable.
there you go......now you can label me however you would like.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
So if there was another way to stop them, would you support that method instead?
What if it was someone you really did know to be a good person - like your mom or child or something - and they just had a psychotic break?
Plus, it's not even about just accepting it. Would he actually feel the same way, where he supported and encouraged it and wanted it, if it were his child? That's my question.
"get a grip on yourself" is what i would say.
rape, torture, murder...
mega prison terms.
keep fuckin around when free and the next maniac offense will bring on a swift bullet.
i am all for imprisonment but when they keep destroying lives... wham kaboom crack goes the .357 behind the ear.
simplistic and understandable.
very easy.
very much needed.
we have always needed this and we always will.
some "things" can never be helped and cured.
why keep the revolving door open?
serial child molesters, serial rapists, serial killers... they swing swiftly when their necks are strung tightly in a noose.
believe it or not, its a true story.
btw, i love my sanctuary and meditation garden with the enlightened Buddha.
it's butterflies, wild horses, cool mountain streams and fresh air.
hummingbirds landing in my hair
a flower?
no.
just a warm feeling of peace.
do not make me spank you.
:twisted:
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
I agree with this. If it could be done, it would still be the hardest thing to come to terms with.
But than again, no parent would ever convict their child and send them to prison for life either I wouldn't think.
oh and btw,
depending on how heinous the crime, "the thing" will be executed after first offense against humanity.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
and again...
simple shit.
lights out.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
they are no longer my child....they are their own adult that has made a grave decision.
it's like you have tunnel vision on those crimes only? do you still advocate the death penalty for people who murder in other ways?
what about someone who drink drives and kills someone? death penalty? or someone that is talking on their phone while driving, not paying attention and kills someone? death penalty?
its not justice, its vengeance.
an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
are you out of your skull?
some of the comments in here are very much out of control and struggling.
unreal.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
1. My understanding of the positions I've heard is that anyone who murders, rapes, or molests should be sentenced to death. Murder by drunk driving should warrant a death sentence if the person has ever driven drunk before. In all cases, it doesn't matter whether the person is mentally ill (even if just for a moment) or whether he is likely to do it again. Do I have all that right? Is that how you all feel?
2. What about minors?
3. Only one of you has answered the question about whether or not you have experienced the murder of a loved one. Have you or not?
Maybe I'm just blind, but I didn't see where you answered her question.
bepending on how heinous the crime.
serial killers, serial rapists, serial child molesters... these kinds of beasts are done in my book.
drunk driving is an all together different ball game.
drunk driving and harming ppl is not breaking into their home and torturing the innocent for 3 or 4 days then skinning them alive then eating them.
btw, some of you slay me...
minors are minors.
they are generally stupid as hell.
my loved ones have never been murdered.
have my loved ones murdered? yes... WWII & vietnam.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
i cant dispute your words.
but are the drunk drivers serial killers, serial rapists, and serial child molesters?
fuck no they are not.
drunk drivers killing ppl with their cars are dumb as hell and should be punished.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
to me that is straight up weird as fuck.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
the death penalty doesn't bring peace or healing to the victims families no matter how the person died. you can't spend the rest of your life focussing on that anger otherwise it poisons you and you become a victim all over again. it destroys you, messes with you and it just never stops. you spend more time thinking of revenge and less time on honoring your loved ones memory and remembering the happy times. you have to somehow let go and have faith that the judical system will imprison the person once they are found guilty so that they can't hurt anyone else.
i am pretty god damn thrilled to be honest with you.
why in the world would i be angry?
i haven't an angry bone in my body.
what i do have is zero tolerance for cruelty.
it makes me happy when cruelty loses.
it's that simple.
anger?
it's not anger at all.
it's happiness.
it is a frickin carnival.
i kid you not.
you should try it sometime.
it is a hoot.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce