People wouldn't resist police orders if the police did it in a way that was: non-harassing, did not display aggressive behavior or tone, and police were decent people who actually know how to communicate with other people. In other words, rational people who don't get off on a power trip of being a police officer.
it's just a viscious cycle though. I think some officers get that way because they start of rational and communicate with decency, but encounter too many criminals and law-breakers who just have a problem with authority. I've seen it a million times. People will always resist the police, even if the police act perfectly. There are just those types of people out there unfortunately.
There are a few who are on a power trip, but that is not the majority. Sadly, it's that minority of power-trip officers who give them a bad name and do cause fear in people. I have personally even encountered a very awful, powertrip jerk of an officer, and it turned out to be no problem. You just have to know how to deal with them.
exactly...
i've been flat busted doing different illegal shit.
set free everytime with fines to pay.
why?
because i never squirreled around wrestling with the cops.
I have no problem with what this officer did...as others have mentioned, get your ticket, move on, and perhaps fight it in court...
The girl who got punched pushed the officer...I hope she was arrested, too...
And the I hope the soon-to-farmer never needs to call those fn cops, cuz you know, they all suck, fo reals...
I'm not trying to stir anything up..... but if your daughter or sister was getting in my face and pushing me....would it be ok for me to punch her? Knock her ass out?
Or what it have been cool for the police officer to shoot her?
I can see that I am a bit late to the table….I think the officer over stepped yes the girl did give him a half-hearted one hand push, but it appeared to me that he could have gotten control with out that punch to the face. I would also note how quick he was to switch suspects as soon as that girl cave him that little shove he was after her with a vengeance. Now I actually thing the girl should be charged with something cause you just don’t put your hands on a cop and she certainly needs to learn that lesson. After watching the video I just can’t seem to reconcile punching this girl in the face, I do wonder if I would have felt differently if he punched her in the stomach or disabled her in some other way.
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I can't believe this is even a discussion, they broke the law (no matter how small, its still the law) and resisted arrest and struck the officer. I am not a fan of police officers becuase I do think the abuse their power sometimes, But the man has the right to take full force if he is getting assulted while engaged with another person resisting. Quit making excuses for stupid people. they deserve what they got.
I can't believe this is even a discussion, they broke the law (no matter how small, its still the law) and resisted arrest and struck the officer. I am not a fan of police officers becuase I do think the abuse their power sometimes, But the man has the right to take full force if he is getting assulted while engaged with another person resisting. Quit making excuses for stupid people. they deserve what they got.
I don't think anyone is defending the girls....
If the police officer shot the girl would that still have been ok? Could he have handled this better?
Is that how you would have handled it? Would you knock a teenage girl out that got in your face?
Would you knock a teenage girl out that got in your face?
If being physically assaulted by them, when they have nothing to do with what I'm doing? Yes, and I'd be unapologetic about it.
And you keep mentioning "teenage", "teenage"... I don't think he was in the position to ask the girl her age while she was assaulting him. And you're suggesting from using "teenage" so often that age of the person assaulting him should play a role in his action, so I'll put you in the same position your putting him in.
Which one of these girls is a teenager, if any of them, just by looking at their photo?
Would you knock a teenage girl out that got in your face?
If being physically assaulted by them, when they have nothing to do with what I'm doing? Yes, and I'd be unapologetic about it.
And you keep mentioning "teenage", "teenage"... I don't think he was in the position to ask the girl her age while she was assaulting him. And you're suggesting from using "teenage" so often that age of the person assaulting him should play a role in his action, so I'll put you in the same position your putting him in.
Which one of these girls is a teenager, if any of them, just by looking at their photo?
Sorry man, but I just wouldn't punch a women in the face not even if she was attacking my mother..... That's just disgusting .... I wouldn't punch a women period... I was raised to never put my hands on a women ... no matter what... and I have seen some extreme situations......
And you're ignoring my question.... the main point.... Couldn't the officer just have called for back up? Or have just pushed the girls off of him and maced them? Would it have been ok for him to shoot her? Because as you say, he was acting in self-defense.
As for your images ..... none of those girls/women look threatening .... and unlike you I would never put my hands on a woman ....if I did I would be apologetic..... I would rather run, then hit a women....
I'd hit you for punching a woman.....and I wouldn't be apologetic..... but that's just me...
Would you knock a teenage girl out that got in your face?
If being physically assaulted by them, when they have nothing to do with what I'm doing? Yes, and I'd be unapologetic about it.
And you keep mentioning "teenage", "teenage"... I don't think he was in the position to ask the girl her age while she was assaulting him. And you're suggesting from using "teenage" so often that age of the person assaulting him should play a role in his action, so I'll put you in the same position your putting him in.
Which one of these girls is a teenager, if any of them, just by looking at their photo?
exactly...
all i've read here is teenage girl, teenage girl...
she doesn't look like a teenager anyway.
next time hopefully she leaves her hands to herself, stands there and keeps quiet.
Would you knock a teenage girl out that got in your face?
If being physically assaulted by them, when they have nothing to do with what I'm doing? Yes, and I'd be unapologetic about it.
And you keep mentioning "teenage", "teenage"... I don't think he was in the position to ask the girl her age while she was assaulting him. And you're suggesting from using "teenage" so often that age of the person assaulting him should play a role in his action, so I'll put you in the same position your putting him in.
Which one of these girls is a teenager, if any of them, just by looking at their photo?
exactly...
all i've read here is teenage girl, teenage girl...
she doesn't look like a teenager anyway.
next time hopefully she leaves her hands to herself, stands there and keeps quiet.
I think the majority of people here believe the girls over reacted and deserve to be punished by the law.... But punching a woman/ teenage girl wasn't the smartest thing to do.... you might be ok with hitting women, but the majority of society is against Men hitting women.... especially with with a fist to the face....
The officer could have backed away and maced them or could have called for back up.... now he put the seattle police department in a bad position....and makes the girls appear like the victims....
He is a professional and is paid/trained to be that.... If you are ok with the officer punching the girls then you're ok with the officer shooting them down like dogs.... right?
I think the majority of people here believe the girls over reacted and deserve to be punished by the law.... But punching a woman/ teenage girl wasn't the smartest thing to do.... you might be ok with hitting women, but the majority of society is against Men hitting women.... especially with with a fist to the face....
The officer could have backed away and maced them or could have called for back up.... now he put the seattle police department in a bad position....and makes the girls appear like the victims....
He is a professional and is paid/trained to be that.... If you are ok with the officer punching the girls then you're ok with the officer shooting them down like dogs.... right?
hitting a woman is bullshit.
and no i am not ok with it.
this is not a domestic abuse call.
them two chics are fulla shit.
I think the majority of people here believe the girls over reacted and deserve to be punished by the law.... But punching a woman/ teenage girl wasn't the smartest thing to do.... you might be ok with hitting women, but the majority of society is against Men hitting women.... especially with with a fist to the face....
The officer could have backed away and maced them or could have called for back up.... now he put the seattle police department in a bad position....and makes the girls appear like the victims....
He is a professional and is paid/trained to be that.... If you are ok with the officer punching the girls then you're ok with the officer shooting them down like dogs.... right?
But the reason had nothing, zero, ziltch to do with punishment.
He was trying to complete an arrest, and she jumped in and started assaulting him. ...so he ignored the first time, and she did it again. So he resolved it in a decisive, non-lethal way.
...and I'm totally ok with the officer shooting them down like dogs. :roll:
Backup would have been best. I'm 100% positive the officer would have preferred to have backup when that girl was assaulting him. But that girl was pushing him and pushing him, escalating things very fast, and backup doesn't show up in a 30 second time frame, let alone that it's hard to complete and arrest from a struggling person and handle a radio to call for backup.
And be it man or woman, if you start assaulting a police officer, I have no sympathy if they take a punch to stop the assault. Period.
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I think the majority of people here believe the girls over reacted and deserve to be punished by the law.... But punching a woman/ teenage girl wasn't the smartest thing to do.... you might be ok with hitting women, but the majority of society is against Men hitting women.... especially with with a fist to the face....
The officer could have backed away and maced them or could have called for back up.... now he put the seattle police department in a bad position....and makes the girls appear like the victims....
He is a professional and is paid/trained to be that.... If you are ok with the officer punching the girls then you're ok with the officer shooting them down like dogs.... right?
hitting a woman is bullshit.
and no i am not ok with it.
this is not a domestic abuse call.
them two chics are fulla shit.
Your ok with the way the officer handled this situation .... striking a women with a fist to the face....
Your on both sides of the argument. I don't believe a women should be struck by a fist to the face by any man under any circumstance.... PERIOD!
If you are ok with the officer defending himself (based on this video) then you are ok with him shooting these "chicks", because if he claims his life was threaten ...then he could have defended his life by shooting.... and based on the video he didn't care who was around him because his focus were these women.... If his life was being threaten he should have called for back up... or pointed his gun.....
I am not making excuses for these women..... they are clearly in the wrong....
Your ok with the way the officer handled this situation .... striking a women with a fist to the face....
Your on both sides of the argument. I don't believe a women should be struck by a fist to the face by any man under any circumstance.... PERIOD!
If you are ok with the officer defending himself (based on this video) then you are ok with him shooting these "chicks", because if he claims his life was threaten ...then he could have defended his life by shooting.... and based on the video he didn't care who was around him because his focus were these women.... If his life was being threaten he should have called for back up... or pointed his gun.....
I am not making excuses for these women..... they are clearly in the wrong....
i watched the video once.
i saw him on his police radio.
do we know what happened prior to the recording of this incident? no we do not.
you're blowing it out of proportion.
i have never harmed a woman in my life.
women and me are wonderful friends.
i see these two young women as idiotic overbearing little shits.
I think the majority of people here believe the girls over reacted and deserve to be punished by the law.... But punching a woman/ teenage girl wasn't the smartest thing to do.... you might be ok with hitting women, but the majority of society is against Men hitting women.... especially with with a fist to the face....
The officer could have backed away and maced them or could have called for back up.... now he put the seattle police department in a bad position....and makes the girls appear like the victims....
He is a professional and is paid/trained to be that.... If you are ok with the officer punching the girls then you're ok with the officer shooting them down like dogs.... right?
But the reason had nothing, zero, ziltch to do with punishment.
He was trying to complete an arrest, and she jumped in and started assaulting him. ...so he ignored the first time, and she did it again. So he resolved it in a decisive, non-lethal way.
...and I'm totally ok with the officer shooting them down like dogs. :roll:
Backup would have been best. I'm 100% positive the officer would have preferred to have backup when that girl was assaulting him. But that girl was pushing him and pushing him, escalating things very fast, and backup doesn't show up in a 30 second time frame, let alone that it's hard to complete and arrest from a struggling person and handle a radio to call for backup.
And be it man or woman, if you start assaulting a police officer, I have no sympathy if they take a punch to stop the assault. Period.
The video shows an officer trying to make an arrest... the minute he felt threaten...he should have taken a step back and pulled out his mace...at that point calling for back up... but the women were only pushing him off of them...so when the officer pressed, they pushed back...its not like the officer stepped back and they pressed him...... they were more defending themselves from the officer..... even though I believe they were in the wrong..... I just don't believe the officer should have punched a girl in the face.....If i were the chief of police I would suspend this officer and possibly fire him.....because I would only want professionals in my department.......also would only want real men in my department.... Real Men Don't Hit Women!
You and I see the world in different ways... and clearly see this video in a very different way.....
Your ok with the way the officer handled this situation .... striking a women with a fist to the face....
Your on both sides of the argument. I don't believe a women should be struck by a fist to the face by any man under any circumstance.... PERIOD!
If you are ok with the officer defending himself (based on this video) then you are ok with him shooting these "chicks", because if he claims his life was threaten ...then he could have defended his life by shooting.... and based on the video he didn't care who was around him because his focus were these women.... If his life was being threaten he should have called for back up... or pointed his gun.....
I am not making excuses for these women..... they are clearly in the wrong....
i watched the video once.
i saw him on his police radio.
do we know what happened prior to the recording of this incident? no we do not.
you're blowing it out of proportion.
i have never harmed a woman in my life.
woman and me are wonderful friends.
i see these two young women as idiotic overbearing little shits.
Watch it again....with an open mind.... Yes the women are wrong....but think how this could have been handled better.... we want progress in the world.....
look around you....there are a lot of people who could potentially be threatening (to officer) ...but he had another priority ....he wanted to arrest these women regardless of his surroundings .....someone could have shot the officer from behind...but he wasn't thinking...which makes me think...he wasn't thinking, when he punched the girl....
I guess as a man, Punching a woman would never be an option .... which wouldn't be a reaction for me....
I would rather mace her and her friend..... keep them entertained with that till my back up shows up.
I don't believe a women should be struck by a fist to the face by any man under any circumstance.... PERIOD!
...you have a huge hangup about this being a "man punching a woman" and how that is not right under any circumstance known to man. Ok... fine.
Hypothetical for you, based strictly on your statements.
Lets say the officer was female...
Punching someone in the face is pretty serious.... if it had been a women officer in this situation ...I would have felt the same... You are a professional and you need to handle it like a professional .... you don't strike someone in the face....
Just a few weeks ago... a kid punched another kid in the face...knocked him out....and the kid died... kid was 14 years old.....
You are a professional ...trained .... act like one..
Yes it bothers me more that this was a kid and yes it bothers me more that it was a man striking a woman....
Watch it again....with an open mind.... Yes the women are wrong....but think how this could have been handled better.... we want progress in the world.....
look around you....there are a lot of people who could potentially be threatening (to officer) ...but he had another priority ....he wanted to arrest these women regardless of his surroundings .....someone could have shot the officer from behind...but he wasn't thinking...which makes me think...he wasn't thinking, when he punched the girl....
I guess as a man, Punching a woman would never be an option .... which wouldn't be a reaction for me....
I would rather mace her and her friend..... keep them entertained with that till my back up shows up.
let's see...
pretend you're a cop in seattle.
seattle's a decent sized city.
let's say some crazy chic attacks you with a butcher knife.
she is stabbing you as fast and as hard as she can with a butcher knife.
all this because she was having a drunken fueled domestic abuse situation with her boy friend and you were called to deal with them so she decides to attack you with a 10 inch blade.
good times...
punch her lights out or shoot her or mace her or club the fuckin maniac?
btw, im sure this happens pretty much all the time.
I don't believe a women should be struck by a fist to the face by any man under any circumstance.... PERIOD!
...you have a huge hangup about this being a "man punching a woman" and how that is not right under any circumstance known to man. Ok... fine.
Hypothetical for you, based strictly on your statements.
Lets say the officer was female...
Punching someone in the face is pretty serious.... if it had been a women officer in this situation ...I would have felt the same... You are a professional and you need to handle it like a professional .... you don't strike someone in the face....
Just a few weeks ago... a kid punched another kid in the face...knocked him out....and the kid died... kid was 14 years old.....
You are a professional ...trained .... act like one..
Yes it bothers me more that this was a kid and yes it bothers me more that it was a man striking a woman....
Ok... so let's say female officer and male person assaulting the female officer.
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Watch it again....with an open mind.... Yes the women are wrong....but think how this could have been handled better.... we want progress in the world.....
look around you....there are a lot of people who could potentially be threatening (to officer) ...but he had another priority ....he wanted to arrest these women regardless of his surroundings .....someone could have shot the officer from behind...but he wasn't thinking...which makes me think...he wasn't thinking, when he punched the girl....
I guess as a man, Punching a woman would never be an option .... which wouldn't be a reaction for me....
I would rather mace her and her friend..... keep them entertained with that till my back up shows up.
let's see...
pretend you're a cop in seattle.
seattle's a decent sized city.
let's say some crazy chic attacks you with a butcher knife.
she is stabbing you as fast and as hard as she can with a butcher knife.
all this because she was having a drunken fueled domestic abuse situation with her boy friend and you were called to deal with them so she decides to attack you with a 10 inch blade.
good times...
punch her lights out or shoot her or mace her or club the fuckin maniac?
btw, im sure this happens pretty much all the time.
That's a pretty serious situation... I am not a professional.... but I'll try... I would mace her, tase her(dont know the law), push her down, wrestle her down, flip her with a karate move, club her (body), or run!
I mean I just don't punch women .... that's just me... and this situation didn't appear to be life threatening, at least in the video.... the girls weren't attacking the officer (he must have felt differently about that), they were removing his hands from them.... no weapons were involved.... He could have pushed them off and then pulled out the mace.....
punching a woman who is assaulting you and may have a weapon = bad
inducing 50,000 volts or spraying poison at a woman who is assaulting you and may have a weapon = good
glad that's all sorted out :?
That's what I've been thinking. Honestly, I'll take the punch to the face over being tazed or maced any time. Getting punched usually just wakes you up a bit. The other two will fuckin' make your day pretty goddamn miserable.
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also would only want real men in my department....
So you are against women on the police force? Wow, that's just sad and sexist.
I am not sexist... don't try and change this... I was directly speaking about men...
Dude... you see the video one way I see it another way....
My point ... MY POINT is that it could have been handled a different way...and based on the video the officer clearly didn't feel threaten, because their was plenty of people around him who could have easily gotten involved ...and he had no regard for them... he wanted to make the arrest and couldn't.... because he was to busy going back and forth with these women..... he should have just maced the two of them .....and contained them....... That's my point.... handle it like a professional.... look at the video carefully and see how you would have handled it....
You are ok with men punching woman ... I am not... You said it yourself... regardless of the situation.... I wont punch a woman ...
we'll see how this plays out in court....
punching a woman who is assaulting you and may have a weapon = bad
inducing 50,000 volts or spraying poison at a woman who is assaulting you and may have a weapon = good
glad that's all sorted out :?
That's what I've been thinking. Honestly, I'll take the punch to the face over being tazed or maced any time. Getting punched usually just wakes you up a bit. The other two will fuckin' make your day pretty goddamn miserable.
yes but you're a man (supposedly)...now if you're a woman, you can beat the shit out of any man you want and that man must sit there and take it...i love learning on the MT!
That's a pretty serious situation... I am not a professional.... but I'll try... I would mace her, tase her(dont know the law), push her down, wrestle her down, flip her with a karate move, club her (body), or run!
I mean I just don't punch women .... that's just me... and this situation didn't appear to be life threatening, at least in the video.... the girls weren't attacking the officer (he must have felt differently about that), they were removing his hands from them.... no weapons were involved.... He could have pushed them off and then pulled out the mace.....
you come across like some of us hit women.
i can't speak for anyone here except myself, i have not ever harmed a female.
i may have broke some hearts but i've not ever abused a woman,,, ever.
women know they're safe with me.
punching a woman who is assaulting you and may have a weapon = bad
inducing 50,000 volts or spraying poison at a woman who is assaulting you and may have a weapon = good
glad that's all sorted out :?
That's what I've been thinking. Honestly, I'll take the punch to the face over being tazed or maced any time. Getting punched usually just wakes you up a bit. The other two will fuckin' make your day pretty goddamn miserable.
mr. eyed, sir...
i've read on here where some ppl have never punched anyone in the mug ever before in the history of the galaxy...
That's a pretty serious situation... I am not a professional.... but I'll try... I would mace her, tase her(dont know the law), push her down, wrestle her down, flip her with a karate move, club her (body), or run!
I mean I just don't punch women .... that's just me... and this situation didn't appear to be life threatening, at least in the video.... the girls weren't attacking the officer (he must have felt differently about that), they were removing his hands from them.... no weapons were involved.... He could have pushed them off and then pulled out the mace.....
you come across like some of us hit women.
i can't speak for anyone here except myself, i have not ever harmed a female.
i may have broke some hearts but i've not ever abused a woman,,, ever.
women know they're safe with me.
Now children on the other hand... :twisted:
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punching a woman who is assaulting you and may have a weapon = bad
inducing 50,000 volts or spraying poison at a woman who is assaulting you and may have a weapon = good
glad that's all sorted out :?
the officer clearly wasn't to concerned about a weapon because he kept going back and forth with the two of them... first with one girl ..then with the other.... moving them around all over the place...people directly behind you, who knows what their intentions are.... yet your only concern is taking these girls down... no regard for the safety of yourself or others.... get on the radio call for back up and contain them..... mace the girls...and keep them under control...obviously this wasn't under control
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exactly...
i've been flat busted doing different illegal shit.
set free everytime with fines to pay.
why?
because i never squirreled around wrestling with the cops.
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The girl who got punched pushed the officer...I hope she was arrested, too...
And the I hope the soon-to-farmer never needs to call those fn cops, cuz you know, they all suck, fo reals...
I'm not trying to stir anything up..... but if your daughter or sister was getting in my face and pushing me....would it be ok for me to punch her? Knock her ass out?
Or what it have been cool for the police officer to shoot her?
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I don't think anyone is defending the girls....
If the police officer shot the girl would that still have been ok? Could he have handled this better?
Is that how you would have handled it? Would you knock a teenage girl out that got in your face?
If being physically assaulted by them, when they have nothing to do with what I'm doing? Yes, and I'd be unapologetic about it.
And you keep mentioning "teenage", "teenage"... I don't think he was in the position to ask the girl her age while she was assaulting him. And you're suggesting from using "teenage" so often that age of the person assaulting him should play a role in his action, so I'll put you in the same position your putting him in.
Which one of these girls is a teenager, if any of them, just by looking at their photo?
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Sorry man, but I just wouldn't punch a women in the face not even if she was attacking my mother..... That's just disgusting .... I wouldn't punch a women period... I was raised to never put my hands on a women ... no matter what... and I have seen some extreme situations......
And you're ignoring my question.... the main point.... Couldn't the officer just have called for back up? Or have just pushed the girls off of him and maced them? Would it have been ok for him to shoot her? Because as you say, he was acting in self-defense.
As for your images ..... none of those girls/women look threatening .... and unlike you I would never put my hands on a woman ....if I did I would be apologetic..... I would rather run, then hit a women....
I'd hit you for punching a woman.....and I wouldn't be apologetic..... but that's just me...
exactly...
all i've read here is teenage girl, teenage girl...
she doesn't look like a teenager anyway.
next time hopefully she leaves her hands to herself, stands there and keeps quiet.
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I think the majority of people here believe the girls over reacted and deserve to be punished by the law.... But punching a woman/ teenage girl wasn't the smartest thing to do.... you might be ok with hitting women, but the majority of society is against Men hitting women.... especially with with a fist to the face....
The officer could have backed away and maced them or could have called for back up.... now he put the seattle police department in a bad position....and makes the girls appear like the victims....
He is a professional and is paid/trained to be that.... If you are ok with the officer punching the girls then you're ok with the officer shooting them down like dogs.... right?
hitting a woman is bullshit.
and no i am not ok with it.
this is not a domestic abuse call.
them two chics are fulla shit.
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But the reason had nothing, zero, ziltch to do with punishment.
He was trying to complete an arrest, and she jumped in and started assaulting him. ...so he ignored the first time, and she did it again. So he resolved it in a decisive, non-lethal way.
...and I'm totally ok with the officer shooting them down like dogs. :roll:
Backup would have been best. I'm 100% positive the officer would have preferred to have backup when that girl was assaulting him. But that girl was pushing him and pushing him, escalating things very fast, and backup doesn't show up in a 30 second time frame, let alone that it's hard to complete and arrest from a struggling person and handle a radio to call for backup.
And be it man or woman, if you start assaulting a police officer, I have no sympathy if they take a punch to stop the assault. Period.
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Your ok with the way the officer handled this situation .... striking a women with a fist to the face....
Your on both sides of the argument. I don't believe a women should be struck by a fist to the face by any man under any circumstance.... PERIOD!
If you are ok with the officer defending himself (based on this video) then you are ok with him shooting these "chicks", because if he claims his life was threaten ...then he could have defended his life by shooting.... and based on the video he didn't care who was around him because his focus were these women.... If his life was being threaten he should have called for back up... or pointed his gun.....
I am not making excuses for these women..... they are clearly in the wrong....
i watched the video once.
i saw him on his police radio.
do we know what happened prior to the recording of this incident? no we do not.
you're blowing it out of proportion.
i have never harmed a woman in my life.
women and me are wonderful friends.
i see these two young women as idiotic overbearing little shits.
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I am tired; my heart is
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Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
...you have a huge hangup about this being a "man punching a woman" and how that is not right under any circumstance known to man. Ok... fine.
Hypothetical for you, based strictly on your statements.
Lets say the officer was female...
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The video shows an officer trying to make an arrest... the minute he felt threaten...he should have taken a step back and pulled out his mace...at that point calling for back up... but the women were only pushing him off of them...so when the officer pressed, they pushed back...its not like the officer stepped back and they pressed him...... they were more defending themselves from the officer..... even though I believe they were in the wrong..... I just don't believe the officer should have punched a girl in the face.....If i were the chief of police I would suspend this officer and possibly fire him.....because I would only want professionals in my department.......also would only want real men in my department.... Real Men Don't Hit Women!
You and I see the world in different ways... and clearly see this video in a very different way.....
Watch it again....with an open mind.... Yes the women are wrong....but think how this could have been handled better.... we want progress in the world.....
look around you....there are a lot of people who could potentially be threatening (to officer) ...but he had another priority ....he wanted to arrest these women regardless of his surroundings .....someone could have shot the officer from behind...but he wasn't thinking...which makes me think...he wasn't thinking, when he punched the girl....
I guess as a man, Punching a woman would never be an option .... which wouldn't be a reaction for me....
I would rather mace her and her friend..... keep them entertained with that till my back up shows up.
Punching someone in the face is pretty serious.... if it had been a women officer in this situation ...I would have felt the same... You are a professional and you need to handle it like a professional .... you don't strike someone in the face....
Just a few weeks ago... a kid punched another kid in the face...knocked him out....and the kid died... kid was 14 years old.....
You are a professional ...trained .... act like one..
Yes it bothers me more that this was a kid and yes it bothers me more that it was a man striking a woman....
let's see...
pretend you're a cop in seattle.
seattle's a decent sized city.
let's say some crazy chic attacks you with a butcher knife.
she is stabbing you as fast and as hard as she can with a butcher knife.
all this because she was having a drunken fueled domestic abuse situation with her boy friend and you were called to deal with them so she decides to attack you with a 10 inch blade.
good times...
punch her lights out or shoot her or mace her or club the fuckin maniac?
btw, im sure this happens pretty much all the time.
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Ok... so let's say female officer and male person assaulting the female officer.
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That is called resisting arrest.
The woman (one woman) who he was attempting to arrest was not cooperating. Did he punch her? Nope.
Incorrect. The woman in pink was not physically involved in this.
Then she pushed the officer about 4 times.
She jumped in and physically assaulted her with her hands. He stopped her, with his hands.
So you are against women on the police force? Wow, that's just sad and sexist.
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That's a pretty serious situation... I am not a professional.... but I'll try... I would mace her, tase her(dont know the law), push her down, wrestle her down, flip her with a karate move, club her (body), or run!
I mean I just don't punch women .... that's just me... and this situation didn't appear to be life threatening, at least in the video.... the girls weren't attacking the officer (he must have felt differently about that), they were removing his hands from them.... no weapons were involved.... He could have pushed them off and then pulled out the mace.....
inducing 50,000 volts or spraying poison at a woman who is assaulting you and may have a weapon = good
glad that's all sorted out :?
That's what I've been thinking. Honestly, I'll take the punch to the face over being tazed or maced any time. Getting punched usually just wakes you up a bit. The other two will fuckin' make your day pretty goddamn miserable.
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I am not sexist... don't try and change this... I was directly speaking about men...
Dude... you see the video one way I see it another way....
My point ... MY POINT is that it could have been handled a different way...and based on the video the officer clearly didn't feel threaten, because their was plenty of people around him who could have easily gotten involved ...and he had no regard for them... he wanted to make the arrest and couldn't.... because he was to busy going back and forth with these women..... he should have just maced the two of them .....and contained them....... That's my point.... handle it like a professional.... look at the video carefully and see how you would have handled it....
You are ok with men punching woman ... I am not... You said it yourself... regardless of the situation.... I wont punch a woman ...
we'll see how this plays out in court....
yes but you're a man (supposedly)...now if you're a woman, you can beat the shit out of any man you want and that man must sit there and take it...i love learning on the MT!
you come across like some of us hit women.
i can't speak for anyone here except myself, i have not ever harmed a female.
i may have broke some hearts but i've not ever abused a woman,,, ever.
women know they're safe with me.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
i've read on here where some ppl have never punched anyone in the mug ever before in the history of the galaxy...
i personally find that odd.
what do you think?
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Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Now children on the other hand... :twisted:
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the officer clearly wasn't to concerned about a weapon because he kept going back and forth with the two of them... first with one girl ..then with the other.... moving them around all over the place...people directly behind you, who knows what their intentions are.... yet your only concern is taking these girls down... no regard for the safety of yourself or others.... get on the radio call for back up and contain them..... mace the girls...and keep them under control...obviously this wasn't under control