The thing is, while it will not be in the record books, you know he pitched a perfect game, Galarraga knows he pitched a perfect game, Joyce knows he pitched a perfect game, both teams know he pitched a perfect game and everyone watching knows he pitched a perfect game. I consider it a perfect game, even though Selig is jackass and it won't be on record.
Yeah- it's just one of those rare times where it sucks to be a sports fan. Detroit has never had a perfect game, and people here live for the Tigers. It seems like no matter who you root for, everyone knows Galarraga got hosed.
Btw- look at the face of the kid who hit the botched ball. He runs across first, puts his hands on his head as if to say, "Oh well, good job." Then he sees that he was called safe, and the look on his face was like he knew he was out, and didn't even want anything to do with being on that ball field.
I hear you, man. I doubt Tigers fans have ever been so upset about a win. It's bullshit but the dude pitched a perfect game.
I noticed that. I am pretty sure he put his hands on his head when he called him safe.
Should be reversed and why not? Wouldn't have changed the score or anything.
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Absolutley inexcusable. How in the world if you are that ump do you call him safe on a close play (it wasn't even close though, he was clearly out) with a perfect game on the line, how? Would be nice to have it overturned, but really what good would it do, this dumbass ump completely killed the moment, and more than likely his career.
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Seriously, someone has to investigate if this Jim Joyce has a record of being a racist of some kind. He is a thief!
He appologized to Galarraga after the game and Armando just gave him a hug.
Joyce: "I just cost that kid a perfect game," Joyce said. "I thought he beat the throw. I was convinced he beat the throw, until I saw the replay. It was the biggest call of my career."
Galarraga: "He really feels bad," Galarraga said. "He probably feels more bad than me. Nobody is perfect. I give a lot of credit to that guy. That (an apology) doesn't happen. He apologized. He feels really bad. Nobody is perfect. What am I gonna do? His body language said more than a lot of words. His eyes were watery, he didn't have too say much. His body language said a lot."
I have really never been so upset about any sporting event in my life. Through all the Pistons games, to the Wings, Fuck, the Lions, MSU, U-M, All of It... I am trembling still!! I really hate Jim Joyce!!!
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Seriously, someone has to investigate if this Jim Joyce has a record of being a racist of some kind. He is a thief!
C'mon now... the guy has been a respected ump for 22 years.
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That might be the single most heartbreaking (non injury) event I've seen on a sports field...
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Jim Joyce's recognition of his miss - and the degree to which he missed it ("from here to the wall") is another reason for the Commissioner to intervene. Who would be hurt by him doing so? The Indians? The Tigers? The integrity of the game? The Umpires, or this Umpire? Listen to this and tell me "this umpire".
And if you say no safe or out call has ever been appealed, or overturned, that's patently false. There were rules interpretations involved that do not apply here, but in both the 1908 Merkle Game and the 1983 Pine Tar Game, game-ending "out" calls by prominent, gifted umpires were reviewed in agonizing detail by League Presidents. And in the case of the Pine Tar Game, the "out" call that ended the game was reversed and the game replayed from the point of the umpire's mistake.
Jim Joyce's recognition of his miss - and the degree to which he missed it ("from here to the wall") is another reason for the Commissioner to intervene. Who would be hurt by him doing so? The Indians? The Tigers? The integrity of the game? The Umpires, or this Umpire? Listen to this and tell me "this umpire".
And if you say no safe or out call has ever been appealed, or overturned, that's patently false. There were rules interpretations involved that do not apply here, but in both the 1908 Merkle Game and the 1983 Pine Tar Game, game-ending "out" calls by prominent, gifted umpires were reviewed in agonizing detail by League Presidents. And in the case of the Pine Tar Game, the "out" call that ended the game was reversed and the game replayed from the point of the umpire's mistake.
I do not have faith in Bud Selig making a right decision... Ever...
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Just saw the replay, it wasn't even close. The umpire really blew that call. If if they did fix it and change the call it won't be the same as celebrating a perfect game with your teammates and your fans in your home ballpark. Joyce is scheduled to behind home plate tomorrow.
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It's so damn sad. My husband kept watching it over and over on TV and I finally said - stop, you're making yourself crazy. Joyce has got to quit, right? I mean, I feel sort of sorry for him - but how can he go out there again? Aren't people gonna throw shit at him, probably REAL shit.
It's so damn sad. My husband kept watching it over and over on TV and I finally said - stop, you're making yourself crazy. Joyce has got to quit, right? I mean, I feel sort of sorry for him - but how can he go out there again? Aren't people gonna throw shit at him, probably REAL shit.
I am thinking....Within the next 24 hours, baseball HAS to over-rule this call.....right????
Wouldnt that be the best thing for baseball to do?????
Holy fuck....I cant believe that ump made that call....
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It's so damn sad. My husband kept watching it over and over on TV and I finally said - stop, you're making yourself crazy. Joyce has got to quit, right? I mean, I feel sort of sorry for him - but how can he go out there again? Aren't people gonna throw shit at him, probably REAL shit.
I am thinking....Within the next 24 hours, baseball HAS to over-rule this call.....right????
Wouldnt that be the best thing for baseball to do?????
Holy fuck....I cant believe that ump made that call....
its the thing to do,but it won't happen
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It's so damn sad. My husband kept watching it over and over on TV and I finally said - stop, you're making yourself crazy. Joyce has got to quit, right? I mean, I feel sort of sorry for him - but how can he go out there again? Aren't people gonna throw shit at him, probably REAL shit.
I am thinking....Within the next 24 hours, baseball HAS to over-rule this call.....right????
Wouldnt that be the best thing for baseball to do?????
Holy fuck....I cant believe that ump made that call....
I think what makes it worse are that it was a routine play that gets called correctly almost 99% of the time, even when it is a close play. And it was not even close. Joyce needs to be sat out for a while, or he needs to retire. If he can not make the correct call, he should not be an umpire. Most likely Gallaraga will never have another chance at a perfect game.
Too bad the union will not allow anything to happen to him and baseball can not overturn the call. Sad.
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I think what makes it worse are that it was a routine play that gets called correctly almost 99% of the time, even when it is a close play. And it was not even close. Joyce needs to be sat out for a while, or he needs to retire. If he can not make the correct call, he should not be an umpire. Most likely Gallaraga will have another chance at a perfect game.
Too bad the union will not allow anything to happen to him and baseball can not overturn the call. Sad.
I disagree... if the guy has a pattern of missed calls, then yes, he should retire... but if he blew one call, then as terrible as this one was, you can't end a guy's career over it. I just think that we hold umpires/referees to an impossible standard of perfection. Think how many times in a day/week that you make a mistake at work, rand either you correct yourself right away, or no one even notices. EVERY mistake these guys make (even if it's one a month) gets seen by thousands of people and shown over and over again.
That is what is so frustrating... we have the technology in instant replay to get them right damn near 100% of the time, but MLB refuses to implement it.
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I think what makes it worse are that it was a routine play that gets called correctly almost 99% of the time, even when it is a close play. And it was not even close. Joyce needs to be sat out for a while, or he needs to retire. If he can not make the correct call, he should not be an umpire. Most likely Gallaraga will have another chance at a perfect game.
Too bad the union will not allow anything to happen to him and baseball can not overturn the call. Sad.
I disagree... if the guy has a pattern of missed calls, then yes, he should retire... but if he blew one call, then as terrible as this one was, you can't end a guy's career over it. I just think that we hold umpires/referees to an impossible standard of perfection. Think how many times in a day/week that you make a mistake at work, rand either you correct yourself right away, or no one even notices. EVERY mistake these guys make (even if it's one a month) gets seen by thousands of people and shown over and over again.
That is what is so frustrating... we have the technology in instant replay to get them right damn near 100% of the time, but MLB refuses to implement it.
I agree, he should not be forced out of the game, but he should be held accountable. Sat down for a while- banned from being an offical in any postseason games for a while. But the Union will never allow that. And everyone makes mistakes, but that was a HUGE one that took away a once in a lifetime chance. That does not happen often, and most likely will not be corrected.
I agree, baseball needs to wake up and have some kind of replay.
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I think I'd respect baseball more if they would overrule the call. The kid threw a perfect game and deserves to have it on his resume. There's only been 20 perfect games ever thrown. They are more rare than being struck by lightning.
Replay shows the runner was clearly out. I don't think the hitter would mind if it was reversed. He looked sick when he realized he was called safe after that weak shit he hit.
Why is it so hard for people to do the right thing anymore? Oh, and Pete Rose has suffered enough. He needs to be in the Hall of Fame too.
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I hear you, man. I doubt Tigers fans have ever been so upset about a win. It's bullshit but the dude pitched a perfect game.
I noticed that. I am pretty sure he put his hands on his head when he called him safe.
Should be reversed and why not? Wouldn't have changed the score or anything.
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He appologized to Galarraga after the game and Armando just gave him a hug.
Joyce: "I just cost that kid a perfect game," Joyce said. "I thought he beat the throw. I was convinced he beat the throw, until I saw the replay. It was the biggest call of my career."
Galarraga: "He really feels bad," Galarraga said. "He probably feels more bad than me. Nobody is perfect. I give a lot of credit to that guy. That (an apology) doesn't happen. He apologized. He feels really bad. Nobody is perfect. What am I gonna do? His body language said more than a lot of words. His eyes were watery, he didn't have too say much. His body language said a lot."
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C'mon now... the guy has been a respected ump for 22 years.
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I think there will be boos until the crowd gets horse.
Yeah, but one still wonders. Nobody is perfect. I know.
And if you say no safe or out call has ever been appealed, or overturned, that's patently false. There were rules interpretations involved that do not apply here, but in both the 1908 Merkle Game and the 1983 Pine Tar Game, game-ending "out" calls by prominent, gifted umpires were reviewed in agonizing detail by League Presidents. And in the case of the Pine Tar Game, the "out" call that ended the game was reversed and the game replayed from the point of the umpire's mistake.
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Horrible!
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At any point in any game...That is a RIDICULOUS call...right????
This asshole makes this call in the 9th inning of a perfect game???
HOW THE FUCK CAN HE MAKE THAT CALL?????
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Wouldnt that be the best thing for baseball to do?????
Holy fuck....I cant believe that ump made that call....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
its the thing to do,but it won't happen
I think what makes it worse are that it was a routine play that gets called correctly almost 99% of the time, even when it is a close play. And it was not even close. Joyce needs to be sat out for a while, or he needs to retire. If he can not make the correct call, he should not be an umpire. Most likely Gallaraga will never have another chance at a perfect game.
Too bad the union will not allow anything to happen to him and baseball can not overturn the call. Sad.
Everyone should use replay like the ATP(Tennis) tour. That thing is fast and is instant and everyone can see the result.
I disagree... if the guy has a pattern of missed calls, then yes, he should retire... but if he blew one call, then as terrible as this one was, you can't end a guy's career over it. I just think that we hold umpires/referees to an impossible standard of perfection. Think how many times in a day/week that you make a mistake at work, rand either you correct yourself right away, or no one even notices. EVERY mistake these guys make (even if it's one a month) gets seen by thousands of people and shown over and over again.
That is what is so frustrating... we have the technology in instant replay to get them right damn near 100% of the time, but MLB refuses to implement it.
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of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
I agree, he should not be forced out of the game, but he should be held accountable. Sat down for a while- banned from being an offical in any postseason games for a while. But the Union will never allow that. And everyone makes mistakes, but that was a HUGE one that took away a once in a lifetime chance. That does not happen often, and most likely will not be corrected.
I agree, baseball needs to wake up and have some kind of replay.
Replay shows the runner was clearly out. I don't think the hitter would mind if it was reversed. He looked sick when he realized he was called safe after that weak shit he hit.
Why is it so hard for people to do the right thing anymore? Oh, and Pete Rose has suffered enough. He needs to be in the Hall of Fame too.