Is Obama the Worst President Ever?

Flagg

Oil Pollution Act of 1990 places responsibility for oil spill cleanup on the oil company rather than the public. Obama is prohibited by law from ordering the federal government to take over the cleanup. Not sure why this act isn't mentioned more but that is the reason he is "sitting around not doing anything". According to that law BP is the sole entity responsible for cleanup.

I am not sure if he can issue an executive order or something to get around that law, but if he can then he should because obviously BP can't stop the leak.

mca47

Terrible, terrible thread....

I mean, really terrible.

patrickredeyes

Flagg wrote:

Oil Pollution Act of 1990 places responsibility for oil spill cleanup on the oil company rather than the public. Obama is prohibited by law from ordering the federal government to take over the cleanup. Not sure why this act isn't mentioned more but that is the reason he is "sitting around not doing anything". According to that law BP is the sole entity responsible for cleanup.

I am not sure if he can issue an executive order or something to get around that law, but if he can then he should because obviously BP can't stop the leak.

No shit obviously they can't fix it. lol

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

haha Sawyer you are such a punk.

Gary Carter

patrickredeyes wrote:

metsfan wrote:

patrickredeyes wrote:

Time will only tell I guess.

This oil leaking into the gulf is not a good thing for Obama that's for sure.

I put blame for the oil leak squarely on BP. They created this mess and now they need to fix it and not walk away from it saying we don't know how to fix it. Wtf is a lawyer from chicago gonna do to fix it.

Of course they are to blame but they aren't fixing the problem are they? Time for the goverment/Obama aka the man who seems to walk on water to many of you to get involved. The gulf isn't owned by BP it's owned by the USA. We need to fix this fast and soon.

3 things

1. Don't assume things k there buddy. I've been very critical of obama and don't think he's a man that walks on water
2. BP CAUSED THE OIL LEAK. SO YEA IT IS THEIR PROBLEM. That's just flat out dumb to think its not BP'S problem
3. Its not bout owning land or shit. Whata weak point if I've ever seen one.

g under p

patrickredeyes wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

patrickredeyes wrote:

Time will only tell I guess.

This oil leaking into the gulf is not a good thing for Obama that's for sure.

Except you can't compare it to Hurricane Katrina in terms of major fuck-ups - totally different ball park.

The oil spill is getting worse by the min and is becoming Obama's fuck up. Your right different ballpark but still a HUGE FUCK UP.

He hasn't done jackshit about it except getting mad at a press conference once. Where is the outrage from the American people and all of his supporters? Watching the news nite after nite and seeing the damage that is going on in the gulf makes me sick and sad.

Since Obama hasn't done squat why don't we bring in the hero oil expert guy like....

Harry S. Stamper till you can come up with some other oil rig expert to save the Gulf.

Seriously do you think the US government has better expert oil people that can solve this problem better than BP and I'm by NO means defending this retched oil company.

Peace

patrickredeyes

metsfan wrote:

patrickredeyes wrote:

metsfan wrote:

1. Don't assume things k there buddy. I've been very critical of obama and don't think he's a man that walks on water
2. BP CAUSED THE OIL LEAK. SO YEA IT IS THEIR PROBLEM. That's just flat out dumb to think its not BP'S problem
3. Its not bout owning land or shit. Whata weak point if I've ever seen one.

Now that I've had time to smoke a jay and relax a bit lets get back to this. Sucks it was only shawag stuff tonight not my favorite or personal choice but hey it gets the job done right. lol
Anyway:

1. Mets I know you don't think he walks on water chill there bud.

2. Yes BP caused the oil leak and it's their problem but it's now a problem for the coastline way up the coast and maybe further and who knows. Point is it's getting out of hand and it's time for others to step in. Other ideas and people and companies and whoever to help fix and solve this. It's never gonna be the same for the wildlife and the people down there. But if we can stop this SOON then finally it can start to go the other way and slowly start getting somewhat better.

3. You missed my whole fucking point on what I was saying or maybe I didn't say it right. lol
This is happening in the waters right off the coasts and beaches and small towns of America. It's affecting all of that and they are gonna need help soon.

And 2morrow I'm taking a broom to Miller Park.

Peace.

UpSideDown

markin ball wrote:

What has Obama done to earn this dubious distinction? Please name real events that have actually taken place. Answers like "He's a socialist!" or "You'll see!" do not qualify. I think a lot of people that voted for him might feel he is so far one of the most disappointing presidents ever, but c'mon...the worst? No way.

A lot of people are dissapointed......but honestly...what did people expect? The magnitude/quantity of problems facing this country (and the world in general) is completely overwhelming and things will not be solved in a year.......or two.......or even four......

Gary Carter

patrickredeyes wrote:

1. Mets I know you don't think he walks on water chill there bud.

2. Yes BP caused the oil leak and it's their problem but it's now a problem for the coastline way up the coast and maybe further and who knows. Point is it's getting out of hand and it's time for others to step in. Other ideas and people and companies and whoever to help fix and solve this. It's never gonna be the same for the wildlife and the people down there. But if we can stop this SOON then finally it can start to go the other way and slowly start getting somewhat better.

3. You missed my whole fucking point on what I was saying or maybe I didn't say it right. lol
This is happening in the waters right off the coasts and beaches and small towns of America. It's affecting all of that and they are gonna need help soon.

And 2morrow I'm taking a broom to Miller Park.

Peace.

1. Bp and the gov't and other oil companies need to figure out to fix this. I'd hope all these smart people can find a way to do that or else this may go on for years

2. Yes you didn't say it right

3. I fucking hate cory hart

Peace

Byrnzie

patrickredeyes wrote:

The oil spill is getting worse by the min and is becoming Obama's fuck up. Your right different ballpark but still a HUGE FUCK UP.

He hasn't done jackshit about it except getting mad at a press conference once. Where is the outrage from the American people and all of his supporters? Watching the news nite after nite and seeing the damage that is going on in the gulf makes me sick and sad.

So because BP caused an oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico Obama can now be regarded as the worst President of all time? Sorry, but I'm not buying that. There's something called 'history' stopping me from agreeing with you.

DewieCox

Hasn't done what he said about the war and allthis other stuff keeps comin up. Sounds pretty similar to Bush's terms. Gotta keep your public diversion options open.

And yes, the government needs to get ahold if the Gulf cleanup. It's affecting other Americans. Their scientists are surely as good as those dummys at Bo.

I thought Bush said all the right things after 9/11, but not much ever got done

Byrnzie

DewieCox wrote:

I thought Bush said all the right things after 9/11

Like what? :?

youngster

I can't believe Richard Nixon's name hasn't come up in this thread. Everyones arguing about our last 2 presidents. We've had presidents for over 200 years and a lot of shit has gone down in this country in that time. Sure, a lot of issues are facing this country now and we all want them to be over (war, oil spill, bailouts, unemployment, etc) but, and I wasn't alive during his presidency, but I believe Nixon to be the worst president we ever had. Besides the Watergate scandal, it was his idea to create HMO's which is what our healthcare system is run on now. Making insurance companys rich at the cost of the patients health. His refusal to leave Vietnam was another one. Many more things to list I'm sure but not gonna get into it. Nixon gets my vote for worst president ever.

Pepe Silvia

Flagg wrote:

Sawyer wrote:

Flagg wrote:

Um, W might have something to say about that.

i disagree wholeheartedly and respect him for having to deal with 9/11

By invading a country that had nothing to do with it?

Oh well, to each their own I guess.

invading TWO countries that had nothing to do with it!

and don't forget he took the country from a record surplus to record deficit

i never understood the people who say things like 'thank god gore wasn't president on 9/11!!' what are they afraid he would've done that would've been worse?

Pepe Silvia

Flagg wrote:

Oil Pollution Act of 1990 places responsibility for oil spill cleanup on the oil company rather than the public. Obama is prohibited by law from ordering the federal government to take over the cleanup. Not sure why this act isn't mentioned more but that is the reason he is "sitting around not doing anything". According to that law BP is the sole entity responsible for cleanup.

I am not sure if he can issue an executive order or something to get around that law, but if he can then he should because obviously BP can't stop the leak.

yeah, but it sure didn't help that last year BP was granted exemptions on this oil rig, including environmental impact studies and permits....or the fact that they've issued at least 27 such waivers SINCE THE RIG SANK.

as bad as i think obama is at this point i think it's laughable to say he's the worst president ever.

also, i think a lot of his anger he shows over things is fake. take his and biden's 'anger' over israel illegally expanding their illegal settlements....both he and biden acted like they were so mad and all this fuss was made about it yet what went very unreported was right after obama got 'mad' and told israel to stop the expansions he told them they could continue to expand but just don't make it such a public thing. what went under reported when biden went to israel right after that and was 'mad' is while he was over there he was finalizing a major arms deal with israel.... :roll:

he's just another corporate whore (just look at his supreme court pick, elena kagan!!) but i still don't think he's been worse than dubya or even some others

81

i'd take obama over G. Bush anyday.

stuckinline

imalive wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

Boy, that was a waste of tax dollars.

"is," not "was."

and what a waste of lives. :(

The Juggler

"CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN"


MY ASS.

this administration is just as inept as the previous one.

our country needs a viable third option...right now.

chadwick

Byrnzie wrote:

Sawyer wrote:

i respect him for having to deal with 9/11

He had to deal with it, but he didn't deal with it. He sat in a primary school classroom reading a childrens book upside down, looking bewildered and pathetic. The remainder of his term in office was then spent looking, and acting bewildered and pathetic.

Did he catch the perpetrators of 9/11? No. He just made Americans feel good about themselves by bombing the shit out of Afghanistan, and then killing over a million Iraqi's who had nothing to do with 9/11 and who posed no threat to anyone.

Bush and his criminal buddies should be sent to the Hague and punished accordingly as war criminals.

Obama, on the other hand, is an intelligent man, erudite, principled, and a great public speaker. He's only been in office two years and has had to deal with the effects of 8 years of the Bush Administration.

This discussion isn't even worth having.

well said & intelligent.

chadwick

oil drilling in water should be outlawed.
only the very arrogant would construct such a thing.

think about it...