noone leaves his external policy to 22 years old soldiers to act of how they think in a sutuation..
soldiers take ORDERS....who give those orders???GOVERMENTS...
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Dimitri, we've been over this, soldiers are not expected to wait for orders while their lives are in immediate danger. They are expected to defend themselves. These guys were sent out with orders to take over these six ships and steer them to port. They took over five of the ships peacefully, but on the sixth ship they were violently attacked, at which point they defended themselves. I don't see how any of this is logically inconsistent.
By the way, I just spoke with my cousin, who is in an elite Israeli special forces unit (not the one involved in this ship thing). Apparently the Israeli naval commandos are furious at the government because they feel that they were put into an impossible situation without the proper intelligence or equipment, and they are pushing hard for an investigation to determine who should shoulder the consequences.
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane
Dimitri, we've been over this, soldiers are not expected to wait for orders while their lives are in immediate danger. They are expected to defend themselves. These guys were sent out with orders to take over these six ships and steer them to port. They took over five of the ships peacefully, but on the sixth ship they were violently attacked, at which point they defended themselves. I don't see how any of this is logically inconsistent.
By the way, I just spoke with my cousin, who is in an elite Israeli special forces unit (not the one involved in this ship thing). Apparently the Israeli naval commandos are furious at the government because they feel that they were put into an impossible situation without the proper intelligence or equipment, and they are pushing hard for an investigation to determine who should shoulder the consequences.
and always soldiers are the ones to blame after this types of mission and politics get away..i know from imia islands at 1996 with greek and turkish ships and helicopters...same old story...
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Dimitri, we've been over this, soldiers are not expected to wait for orders while their lives are in immediate danger. .
In this 'ship thing' case, if their lives are in immediate danger (which is debatable), of course they don't wait for orders, but they know what orders are - they are trained elite force soldiers. Usually the soldiers would abide by the rules of engagement. Doesn't seem they think these rules of engagement apply to them.
Sorry, but I can not take seriously a video that in the details links to videos that blame 9/11 on the Mossad....
that's convenient for you isn't it ... so, i can show a video of someone assaulting an elderly lady but if i flash something like 9/11 was orchestrated by mossad - you will ignore it completely?
Sorry, but I can not take seriously a video that in the details links to videos that blame 9/11 on the Mossad....
It would be funny if not so sad. Bury your head in the sand, ignore what the rest of the world sees. Concentrate on the video, not comments by individuals.
Out of 100 U.S senators, 87 of them signed a petition supporting Israel in the Flotilla incident.
this is hardly a big surprise. these are the same senators who voted to condemn Goldstone's UN investigation on Israels war crimes and violations of international law. this just makes Americans look like fools once again to the rest of the world.
Netanyahu will be laughing his ass off. the senate is full of such dumb asses. seriously. all this letter proves, is that the US Congress is another Israeli occupied territory. what's the deal America? when did you become so afraid?
Out of 100 U.S senators, 87 of them signed a petition supporting Israel in the Flotilla incident.
i find it mildly ironic that our government always talks about "freedom" and will go to great lengths such as war in countries like iraq and afghanistan to "deliver" such freedom, while there are 1.5 million people crying our for this freedom yet our lawmakers vote overwhelmingly in favor of the oppressors.... i guess the crime of murder is not so black and white. i never knew there were conditions on state sanctioned murder and crimes on the high seas..
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
I figured that official Israeli video was fake the first time I saw it.
Now I know it was fake. Thanks for posting.
Still, the multi-million $$ Israeli spin machine succeeded at doing it's job of distorting the facts and casting doubt in the public mind about the nature of this latest massacre.
I mean, how many of the mainstream media sources will analyse footage such as the above and take issue with the fact that most of the footage shot by the flotilla activists is still being held and kept hidden by the Israeli's?
All we got was a one-sided view of what happened with a bunch of scrappy, dubious, and self-serving videos released by the Israeli's.
Israeli multi-million $$ spin machine - 1
Truth and justice - 0
I figured that official Israeli video was fake the first time I saw it.
Now I know it was fake. Thanks for posting.
Still, the multi-million $$ Israeli spin machine succeeded at doing it's job of distorting the facts and casting doubt in the public mind about the nature of this latest massacre.
I mean, how many of the mainstream media sources will analyse footage such as the above and take issue with the fact that most of the footage shot by the flotilla activists is still being held and kept hidden by the Israeli's?
All we got was a one-sided view of what happened with a bunch of scrappy, dubious, and self-serving videos released by the Israeli's.
Israeli multi-million $$ spin machine - 1
Truth and justice - 0
pepe originally posted it but none of our israelis wanted to comment so i reposted for them ...
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soldiers take ORDERS....who give those orders???GOVERMENTS...
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
By the way, I just spoke with my cousin, who is in an elite Israeli special forces unit (not the one involved in this ship thing). Apparently the Israeli naval commandos are furious at the government because they feel that they were put into an impossible situation without the proper intelligence or equipment, and they are pushing hard for an investigation to determine who should shoulder the consequences.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
In this 'ship thing' case, if their lives are in immediate danger (which is debatable), of course they don't wait for orders, but they know what orders are - they are trained elite force soldiers. Usually the soldiers would abide by the rules of engagement. Doesn't seem they think these rules of engagement apply to them.
Sorry, but I can not take seriously a video that in the details links to videos that blame 9/11 on the Mossad....
2010: 9/7/10 - Bilbao
2012: 26-27/6/12 - Amsterdam ~~ 29/6/12 - Werchter ~~ 4-5/7/12 - Berlin
2014: 25/6/14 - Vienna ~~ 26/6/14 - Berlin
that's convenient for you isn't it ... so, i can show a video of someone assaulting an elderly lady but if i flash something like 9/11 was orchestrated by mossad - you will ignore it completely?
It would be funny if not so sad. Bury your head in the sand, ignore what the rest of the world sees. Concentrate on the video, not comments by individuals.
Netanyahu will be laughing his ass off. the senate is full of such dumb asses. seriously. all this letter proves, is that the US Congress is another Israeli occupied territory. what's the deal America? when did you become so afraid?
I applaud the 13 who did not sign.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I figured that official Israeli video was fake the first time I saw it.
Now I know it was fake. Thanks for posting.
Still, the multi-million $$ Israeli spin machine succeeded at doing it's job of distorting the facts and casting doubt in the public mind about the nature of this latest massacre.
I mean, how many of the mainstream media sources will analyse footage such as the above and take issue with the fact that most of the footage shot by the flotilla activists is still being held and kept hidden by the Israeli's?
All we got was a one-sided view of what happened with a bunch of scrappy, dubious, and self-serving videos released by the Israeli's.
Israeli multi-million $$ spin machine - 1
Truth and justice - 0
pepe originally posted it but none of our israelis wanted to comment so i reposted for them ...