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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    the problem for me with the open is it's on pretty much in the middle of the night...yeah i do record but it isn't the same...i realize this is a poor excuse but sue me! and get off my lawn!! :twisted: :lol:


    anyway, judging by what i've read about the rough, i'd say the golfer that keeps it's in the fairway the most should win
  • FenwayFaithful
    FenwayFaithful Posts: 8,626
    norm wrote:
    anyway, judging by what i've read about the rough, i'd say the golfer that keeps it's in the fairway the most should win
    Oh yeah. Usually the case for the Open, but it seems more so this time at Royal Lytham.

    And I forgot about the 2am wakeup for ya norm. Not good for the Open, not good for the Olympics. I'll be catching some action from 5-7am before work Thursday and Fri.
    "FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
  • Bronx Bombers
    Bronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    I love the British but I rather play than watch golf any day of the week so its DVR time for the weekend.
  • RoughMix
    RoughMix back of a lorry Posts: 385
    The key to Lytham will be to avoid the bunkers.There are lots of them and they are nasty.
    Can't wait for Thursday!
    Pulling for Westwood to finally get it done.
    Looks like some British weather will be a factor also.
    "They don't give a shit Keith Moon is dead,
    is that exactly what I thought I read."
  • musicismylife78
    musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    heres a question i wanted to ask all you golfers, do you ever forget what shot you are taking? Meaning, I often see like at press conferences, the press asking the players "what happened on 15", "wasnt that a great shot on 7". And it sort of seems to me, like it would be hard to remember what hole was what. That the 15th would blend in with the 4th, which would blend into the 12th. Or do you ever, get confused and think you are hitting your 3rd shot on a hole but its really your 4th?

    Im not really competitive at all, i am with myself, but in a sporting event i never really considered it my mission to beat everyone and win. I just enjoyed playing the game. Thats ultimately why I really dont follow or play sports, the whole lets kill them, or win, mentality really is alien to me.
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    professional golfers will remember nearly every shot (including club, yardage etc) they've ever taken...serious amateurs will remember most of their shots and on down a sliding scale to you're average hacker that only remember the good shots since they're rare

    it has nothing to do with competition...it's how one plays the game...every hole is unique and a good golfer has to know how each hole plays in order to determine what type of shot to play...this is made easier if you play the same course(s) over and over...it's how one gets better at the game
  • Bronx Bombers
    Bronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    norm wrote:
    professional golfers will remember nearly every shot (including club, yardage etc) they've ever taken...serious amateurs will remember most of their shots and on down a sliding scale to you're average hacker that only remember the good shots since they're rare

    it has nothing to do with competition...it's how one plays the game...every hole is unique and a good golfer has to know how each hole plays in order to determine what type of shot to play...this is made easier if you play the same course(s) over and over...it's how one gets better at the game

    So true that's a great answer.
  • musicismylife78
    musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    norm wrote:
    professional golfers will remember nearly every shot (including club, yardage etc) they've ever taken...serious amateurs will remember most of their shots and on down a sliding scale to you're average hacker that only remember the good shots since they're rare

    it has nothing to do with competition...it's how one plays the game...every hole is unique and a good golfer has to know how each hole plays in order to determine what type of shot to play...this is made easier if you play the same course(s) over and over...it's how one gets better at the game


    i would think it was the complete opposite myself. But im interested in zen so maybe thats it. i would think especially in golf, each hole is unique, and would be approached as such. if you had a horrible run at the 4th, you would need to forget about it, and focus on hole 5, with mind clear. Same with each individual shot, or put. Each one is unique and would need to be approached this was. if you hit a horrible shot into a bunker, you would need to put that behind you and have a clear head when you got in the bunker and attempted to hit out of it.

    Thats what i mean when I talk about forgetting what shot you are taking or what hole you did what. I would think you wouldnt or shouldnt be thinking "this is shot 4 on this hole", but rather this is a single shot on this hole, nothing more, nothing less.

    but sure, i agree, people like tiger, who has been playing for 30 plus years, obviously is going to be better at knowing and keeping track of their score, and also knowing that on the 12th for instance he had an awful run for an example
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    So true that's a great answer.

    thanks! so it made sense? honestly, it's tough for me to explain to someone who doesn't play...or play seriously
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    i would think it was the complete opposite myself. But im interested in zen so maybe thats it. i would think especially in golf, each hole is unique, and would be approached as such. if you had a horrible run at the 4th, you would need to forget about it, and focus on hole 5, with mind clear. Same with each individual shot, or put. Each one is unique and would need to be approached this was. if you hit a horrible shot into a bunker, you would need to put that behind you and have a clear head when you got in the bunker and attempted to hit out of it.

    Thats what i mean when I talk about forgetting what shot you are taking or what hole you did what. I would think you wouldnt or shouldnt be thinking "this is shot 4 on this hole", but rather this is a single shot on this hole, nothing more, nothing less.

    but sure, i agree, people like tiger, who has been playing for 30 plus years, obviously is going to be better at knowing and keeping track of their score, and also knowing that on the 12th for instance he had an awful run for an example

    yeah you've got it more or less...with golf, you're always learning

    i understand what you mean about forgetting what shot you're on while you're playing...happens to me too when i'm playing shitty and taking way too many strokes...that falls in the 'hacker only remembers the good shots' category ;)

    arnold palmer is like 79 years old...you could ask him right now what club he hit on his second shot, on the 12th in the 1962 us open and he'll tell ya...to be that good you have to play like that
  • Horos
    Horos Posts: 4,518
    At least for myself the competition is primarily with myself. Of course we have a few bets rolling out there but I'm always trying to play better than I did the last time.

    Players are in the moment and forgetting those bad shots are key to staying mentally in the game, but they are being filed in the memory banks. I've always been good at remembering everyone in the groups stroke count, they look to me when in question of a particular score. After the round if I try I could recall every shot I took. But unlike the Arnie example I don't remember them for long.
    #FHP
  • FrankieG
    FrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,100
    I love how i was watching live golf while making/eating breakfast before work this morning! :mrgreen:
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    you rarely talk about shots that aren't memorable but i can remember pretty much every shot i made after a round ... it's not that hard ...
  • Horos
    Horos Posts: 4,518
    All those spotters and Phil is still having a hell of a time.
    #FHP
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    Horos wrote:
    All those spotters and Phil is still having a hell of a time.

    earlier i saw phil ask a marshal if he could move the grass so he could see the ball :shock:

    should be an interesting tourney...and tiger getting in the 67 could be huge if the weather comes up in later rounds
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,816
    Go Bubba?
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • Horos
    Horos Posts: 4,518
    norm wrote:
    Horos wrote:
    All those spotters and Phil is still having a hell of a time.

    earlier i saw phil ask a marshal if he could move the grass so he could see the ball :shock:

    should be an interesting tourney...and tiger getting in the 67 could be huge if the weather comes up in later rounds
    Saw that too. Guess he was hoping for some local rule or something. ;)
    #FHP
  • FenwayFaithful
    FenwayFaithful Posts: 8,626
    norm wrote:
    professional golfers will remember nearly every shot (including club, yardage etc) they've ever taken...serious amateurs will remember most of their shots and on down a sliding scale to you're average hacker that only remember the good shots since they're rare

    it has nothing to do with competition...it's how one plays the game...every hole is unique and a good golfer has to know how each hole plays in order to determine what type of shot to play...this is made easier if you play the same course(s) over and over...it's how one gets better at the game
    Well said. Right on norm.

    These guys on tour are afforded ample time to play practice rounds and walk the course while the caddy makes notes. Everyone in this field understands the correct way to play each hole after several rounds.

    As for amateurs, you make an excellent point. All too often, we are affected by outside forces. Our playing partners, other thoughts. Its between you and the course that determines a score. Whether you shoot 67, 80 or 105.
    "FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    -10....damn
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    -10....damn

    brent went all snedeker today :lol::lol: