Walked out of the DC show

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  • bobasfeetbobasfeet Posts: 1,168
    I wish he had insulted everyone whose 10Club number is lower than mine so they'd leave and I could finally be close to the stage.

    :lol:
  • TR42797TR42797 Posts: 11
    The respect for personal opinion around here is astounding. I can't say I would have left the show over that statement but it's interesting how pissed people are getting over the fact that someone didn't like something and left, then dared to speak about it. It's not like mulva8 started a riot in the stands.

    Can we all just give a collective, "meh" and move on?
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  • TangerineTangerine Posts: 880
    Quite frankly people should mind their own business when it comes to religous, political, cohabitational beleifs, etc. We'd be a better world for it. I don't put too much into what Ed says, some of it I agree with...and other times...eh, not so much.

    However, and this is a BIG however (regarding the financial meltdown of the world), I choose to listen to a band I associate with on a lot of levels especially this one. I don't consider myself a pure liberal, I'm probably best described as a liberal conservative. While I don't want to get caught up in the logistics of it all Ed has a right to say whatever he wants. And honestly people like Bernie Madoff deserve to get the shit kicked out of them, people that worked for these companies knowing they were stealing millions from people that had saved for decades (my parents among them!) without a second thought about it...well, I can't say I wish them well. Most of us lost money in the past couple of years, it sucks,but most of us are fairly young and can recover but to take everything from people that were relying on that to get them through til they died?? How do you justify that?

    And for those who compare music to sports, you are way off...personally I think artists have a little bit more leway (and intellect) when it comes to speaking out on hot topics than our sports stars do. But thats just my opinion!
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  • starmap3333starmap3333 Posts: 3,925
    TR42797 wrote:
    The respect for personal opinion around here is astounding. I can't say I would have left the show over that statement but it's interesting how pissed people are getting over the fact that someone didn't like something and left, then dared to speak about it. It's not like mulva8 started a riot in the stands.

    Can we all just give a collective, "meh" and move on?

    Nope. Know why? Your opinion is to "give a collective meh and move on" and some of ours is to laugh our asses off at mr. sensitive. :lol: That's the great thing here... everyone has an opinion and we can share our opinions. Even if some days I'm the and other days I'm the yuck it upper.
  • To Gern; I too saw a lot of opinions on Obama last week. The fact is that there are "Obamaphobes" out there that do not take the time to research the outlandish claims that are going around about him. They pass them off as truths. But where is the bands critisism of Obama? It's not lik things are any different than they were with Bush. I personally distrust all politicians so what are we to do?
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  • vedderfan10vedderfan10 Posts: 2,497
    As a Canadian, I'd like to say:
    Your financial system is fucked.
    Your health care system is beyond all comprehension.

    Oh, and I can't believe you believe in "free speech" and then act all offended at one person's opinion. Free speech my ass...

    PS. You chose to react the way you did by leaving the show. Nothing Ed said made you leave the show. That was all up to you... Be proactive, not reactive...like others have said, write Ed a letter and let him know what you think.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,381
    To Gern; I too saw a lot of opinions on Obama last week. The fact is that there are "Obamaphobes" out there that do not take the time to research the outlandish claims that are going around about him. They pass them off as truths. But where is the bands critisism of Obama? It's not lik things are any different than they were with Bush. I personally distrust all politicians so what are we to do?

    he has been in office for less than 17 mos...I'm sure they will be something
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,318
    I am not left or right.
    this is pretty much a bullshit statement right here. peaple say this every day in the moving train and the people that say it are either to the right every time they say it on these forums, or they have no clue and no opinion as to what is going on in america these days....
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,318
    I agree with Honest Abe Ed is lucky to be in the position that he is in and takes advantage of his stage powers far to often. For example his comments in Columbus last week regarding the national day of prayer. Sometimes he should do his job and save the opinions for another time.
    he has been doing it since 1991...he is not going to change now....funny how you spout off your opinion here yet chastise ed for doing the exact same thing you are doing.... :roll:
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,235
    Lukinz wrote:
    Abe Froman wrote:
    As much as I love this band and the talent of Eddie Vedder, i still realize that Ed is one if the biggest Tools and dipshits on earth. Shut up and sing.

    This is one of the most ignorant comments i've ever seen.

    I agree with the Sausage King
    No , really, shut the FUCK up and sing. Make us aware of a cause for good, but I don't give a shit about your politics. It's not the lobbyists , its the dickwads (congress) who listen to them.
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  • starmap3333starmap3333 Posts: 3,925
    No , really, shut the FUCK up and sing. Make us aware of a cause for good, but I don't give a shit about your politics. It's not the lobbyists , its the dickwads (congress) who listen to them.

    Well, I'll speak for myself and many others... I personally LOVE his banter whether it offends people or not. There's more to performing than singing and playing your instrument. Vedder happens to have charisma that is unrivaled these days. He says what he fucking wants and doesn't give a fuck what people think or want him to do. That's what many of us (fans) love. That's part of it anyway... at least that's what I gather.

    I hope he reads some of this shit on here. Imagine his thoughts of somebody saying, "Hey SHUT THE FUCK UP AND SING!". :lol: You're right fucko, I take the cake... I eat it too.
  • IC188161IC188161 Posts: 53
    Corey Lynn wrote:
    @IC188161



    I never said that I was on a first name basis with him. I do not believe that I implied it. I wrote "I think" many times, which was meant to show that it is my opinion. I do not see people writing "Mr. Vedder" on here. By writing "Ed" , it is not to show ownership or any fucked up thing like that..it is because it is a "Pearl Jam site" and that is the name of their singer. Regardless of that..I stand by what I said. I am a nurse and I am caring to my patients, I try to give them a good experience and make them comfortable" Of course I do it for the money, too. But, if they are appreciative of what I do and feel a connection with me, then I am doing a good job...I am staying true to myself. I am not going to say "Oh, give me less money, because I do not want people to think that I really don"t care" That would be ridiculous.
    This is the same with Mr. Vedder..I believe that he is true to himself..I am sure of it. After 18 years of Pearl Jam being my favorite band..I do feel that I know him to an extent...not in a personal sense....don"t get me wrong, but you can get a feeling about a person from their words, and from the shows, and from the interviews and from hearing their lyrics and their poetry. I do not think that a person could put so much emotion and truth into their work as he does and not feel passionate about it. It is NOT all about the money.

    Now I'm a bit confused...you're beginning to come off a little bi-polar(no offense i guess). I mean, all of your previous posts on the topic, you come off quite narrow minded and sound as though you would take your own life if Mr. Vedder(haha) told you to. Then, all of a sudden you go and write something completely normal and down to earth like this.

    With that said, I actually don't really care about what was said at the concert. I know that I'm going to be subjected to a certain amount of political opinion/bs when attending a PJ show. Especially one taking place in the DC area, as I have been to 5 of them now. I very rarely, if ever, agree with EV's political opinions. However, i'm able to look past it because I have such a love of the band's musical product.

    What makes me want to contribute to these boards, and as you can see is not very often, is when members launch a full blown attack on a fellow member for expressing their opinion, and possibly looking for someone who maybe feels the same way. It is very hypocritical of people to tell the OP, and people like her, to simply stop going to the shows or to stop listening to the music if they don't like the "message." Can't the same be said for all of you? If you don't agree with the OP, DON'T contribute to the thread! Why do some members feel it's necessary to berate the OP with insulting comments. It simply makes for an unpleasant/rude environment.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,381
    I think it's fine that she expressed her opinion...more power to her.

    I just think her opinion is really fucking stupid.
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  • I love Ed's rants. His FUCK speech in OKC 2003, I will never forget.

    That was a great fucking speech in an unbelievably fucking great show!
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  • starmap3333starmap3333 Posts: 3,925
    I think it's fine that she expressed her opinion...more power to her.

    I just think her opinion is really fucking stupid.

    i agree :P but, hey, that's my opinion. :P
  • rb115565rb115565 Posts: 222
    Ed has views that upset people, But so do i and most other people i know
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  • CJMST3K wrote:
    His comment went something like this (and I'm paraphrasing):


    Is there anyone here who's a lobbyist? (a couple of hands go up - crowd boos in general)
    Now, now... there are lobbyists who work for good things like (insert something good here).
    And there are lobbyists who work for Goldman Sachs. If you're a lobbyist for Goldman Sachs, please kill yourself. You'll save the life of others... instead of taxpayers bailing out Goldman Sachs.... yada yada...

    I don't really mean "kill yourself", but please change, and work for good.


    (again, I'm paraphrasing)

    Hmmm....that doesn't sound that bad and he did correct it. I'm just sure he was on a role and didn't think before he spoke. Besides, we all know Pearl Jam/Ed is very political, are we really that surprised? Also, I would like to comment that I've heard Ed address suicide in a past interview, he very much spoke against it, so I think he was just being dramatic. I very seriously doubt he meant it literally. I hope you will attend future PJ shows, don't stop now!

    (On a side note, this reminded me of a time I was at church and we had this back woods revival preacher say that if you voted democratically you would go to hell. I almost walked out, but I stayed, although I haven't been back to church sense. Sad thing is though, I'm quite sure this guy meant it. I must have skipped over that verse in the bible,lol). My point is, if i stayed through the rest of that, you can still love PJ,lol!
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  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    'Michael Jackson was innocent"

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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,945
    Besides, we all know Pearl Jam/Ed is very political, are we really that surprised?

    How is he political? He comments on stories that are in the news. He's as "political" as Jay Leno or David Letterman is. "George Bush is a bad president", "Goldman-Sachs fucked up". Well the clerk behind the counter at the 7/11 could tell ya that stuff.
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  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    didn't the VFC tour donate funds to help elect some guy? That's pretty political. :?
  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,527
    mulva8 wrote:
    I guess I left before I heard him take his comment back, but good to know he did. And I hope he didn't mean it literally (I don't think he did) but it was still shocking that he was so flip about it.

    Crikey....of course he didn't
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  • McNairnMcNairn Posts: 284
    Eddie is not under any obligation to provide a nice neat package of hit songs for your evening out.
    It is the people that create something new and challenge the norm that make the world interesting.
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    This is not the Jonas Brothers.
    Things may at times be uncomfortable.
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  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    i love you

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  • Besides, we all know Pearl Jam/Ed is very political, are we really that surprised?

    How is he political? He comments on stories that are in the news. He's as "political" as Jay Leno or David Letterman is. "George Bush is a bad president", "Goldman-Sachs fucked up". Well the clerk behind the counter at the 7/11 could tell ya that stuff.


    Let me rephrase, "he is very opinionated and active." Although I have to disagree with you in saying that he just comments. He's not an idiot, I'm sure he does more than read the front page and start saying crap. He and the rest of the band do try to bring attention to political issues, as well as social.

    **Thanks, usamamasan1, I've always had an understanding of PJ to be a very active band when it comes to this topic, for Christ sake, listen to their lyrics.
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,527
    kinda cracks me up.

    Every tour this comes up.....

    Like re-electing Bush, the uber sensitive tea baggers just never learn.
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Smellyman wrote:
    tea baggers just never learn.
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  • number1PJfannumber1PJfan Posts: 3,748
    grizaham wrote:
    As much as I love this band and the talent of Eddie Vedder, i still realize that Ed is one if the biggest Tools and dipshits on earth. Shut up and sing.

    See, when i read this kinda a comment I take a deep breath, and move on... :roll:

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    say it again, brother.
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  • MD53409MD53409 Posts: 83
    wah wah wah boo hoo hoo. its a political band who tends to be against idiots. If you are one maybe go kill yourself. We've got plenty of fans here. RJD "If you listen to fools, the Mob Rules!!!!!!"
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