I can't think of anything worse than an a-rod/michael kay simulcast of SNB.
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
I think he gets in the HoF (maybe not first ballot, but eventually)
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
I think he gets in the HoF (maybe not first ballot, but eventually)
Lester
I look at the over all numbers, the 3 World Series championship teams, his post season record, and I have to agree with you. In my eyes Lester is a Hall Of Famer.
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
I think he gets in the HoF (maybe not first ballot, but eventually)
Lester
I look at the over all numbers, the 3 World Series championship teams, his post season record, and I have to agree with you. In my eyes Lester is a Hall Of Famer.
I could see him getting in eventually, perhaps at the end of his eligibility or by the veteran's committee. There are currently six pitchers in the Hall of Fame with between 200 and 210 wins and with the recent devaluing of wins, you could make the case for 200 being the new 300.
Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016 Fenway 2, 2018 MSG 2022 St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023 MSG 2024, MSG 2024 Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
I think he gets in the HoF (maybe not first ballot, but eventually)
Lester
I look at the over all numbers, the 3 World Series championship teams, his post season record, and I have to agree with you. In my eyes Lester is a Hall Of Famer.
I could see him getting in eventually, perhaps at the end of his eligibility or by the veteran's committee. There are currently six pitchers in the Hall of Fame with between 200 and 210 wins and with the recent devaluing of wins, you could make the case for 200 being the new 300.
How many lefties with 200 wins, and part of 3 championships?
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
I think he gets in the HoF (maybe not first ballot, but eventually)
Lester
I look at the over all numbers, the 3 World Series championship teams, his post season record, and I have to agree with you. In my eyes Lester is a Hall Of Famer.
If David Cone is not a HOF Lester should not get in
I think he gets in the HoF (maybe not first ballot, but eventually)
Lester
I look at the over all numbers, the 3 World Series championship teams, his post season record, and I have to agree with you. In my eyes Lester is a Hall Of Famer.
If David Cone is not a HOF Lester should not get in
let's put in everyone who has ever been a yankees!!!! good god.
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
I think he gets in the HoF (maybe not first ballot, but eventually)
Lester
I look at the over all numbers, the 3 World Series championship teams, his post season record, and I have to agree with you. In my eyes Lester is a Hall Of Famer.
If David Cone is not a HOF Lester should not get in
let's put in everyone who has ever been a yankees!!!! good god.
Mel Hall?
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
I think he gets in the HoF (maybe not first ballot, but eventually)
Lester
I look at the over all numbers, the 3 World Series championship teams, his post season record, and I have to agree with you. In my eyes Lester is a Hall Of Famer.
If David Cone is not a HOF Lester should not get in
let's put in everyone who has ever been a yankees!!!! good god.
Mel Hall?
Damn, for some reason Mel Hall was the 1st obviously non deserving ex yankee who came to mind. I have no idea why he entered my mind. And now I just did some research on him. 45 years prison for sexual assault.
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Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
I think he gets in the HoF (maybe not first ballot, but eventually)
Lester
I look at the over all numbers, the 3 World Series championship teams, his post season record, and I have to agree with you. In my eyes Lester is a Hall Of Famer.
If David Cone is not a HOF Lester should not get in
let's put in everyone who has ever been a yankees!!!! good god.
Mel Hall?
Damn, for some reason Mel Hall was the 1st obviously non deserving ex yankee who came to mind. I have no idea why he entered my mind. And now I just did some research on him. 45 years prison for sexual assault.
Mel Hall's two most notable Yankee moments are hitting the walkoff off Jeff Reardon on Memorial Day 1991 when the Yankees spent about a month flirting with .500 before losing 91 games and in 1992 calling Bernie Williams "Mr. Zero", which obviously convinced the Yankees to get rid of him heading into the 1993 season.
Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016 Fenway 2, 2018 MSG 2022 St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023 MSG 2024, MSG 2024 Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
I think he gets in the HoF (maybe not first ballot, but eventually)
Lester
I look at the over all numbers, the 3 World Series championship teams, his post season record, and I have to agree with you. In my eyes Lester is a Hall Of Famer.
If David Cone is not a HOF Lester should not get in
let's put in everyone who has ever been a yankees!!!! good god.
He has 5 words series rings. His WAR which is a thing now is higher than Lester's. Cone didn't even make it past the first year on the ballot.
I think a reasonable comp for Lester is Curt Schilling.
Schilling was 216-146 with a 3.46 ERA, 3116 Ks. Lester 200-1117 with a 3.66, 2488Ks
Both have 3 rings; however, Schilling is one of the greatest post season pitchers of the last quarter century. Schilling postseason was 11-2 with a 2,23 ERA and a WS MVP Lester postseason was 9-7 with a 2.51 ERA
Schilling is not in. Came close last year with 71.1% of votes. Early indications are he is taking a step back this year. His politics are likely playing a role in his exclusion (which is unfortunate but reality), so were he a nice, soft-spoken individual who kept his political leanings to himself he might have made it in just barely.
To me, Schilling has a slightly better resume than Lester, therefore I don't see Lester as HOF worthy.
Baseball is the last sport to put you in the hall for championships won. Lester was consistently very good, and probably very much indeed the best FA signing of the Cubs. But is no way a hall of famer.
Starting Pitcher (149th): 44.2 career WAR | 34.6 7yr-peak WAR | 39.4 JAWS | 39.4 S-JAWS | 3.3 WAR/162 Average HOF P (out of 66): 73.0 career WAR | 49.8 7yr-peak WAR | 61.4 JAWS | 56.8 S-JAWS | 4.5 WAR/162
kershaw (dammit!), verlander, scherzer and, I guess, greinke. maybe sabbathia. without looking at the numbers, I don't think sale.
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
I think MadBum’s postseason performance gives him the edge over most other borderline guys. Elevated numbers and probably the best of this generation. Win total could drag him down.
I think Bumgarner and Lester are both on the outside looking in, but MadBum is closer than Lester imo because he has the next 6, 7, 8 years to change that.
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Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
kershaw should follow his lead
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
I think he gets in the HoF (maybe not first ballot, but eventually)
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
I look at the over all numbers, the 3 World Series championship teams, his post season record, and I have to agree with you.
In my eyes Lester is a Hall Of Famer.
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
let's put in everyone who has ever been a yankees!!!! good god.
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
The Cubs considered losing only 91 games? A step in the right direction!
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Numbers a lot like Wainwright and I think both are just on the outside looking in.
Schilling was 216-146 with a 3.46 ERA, 3116 Ks.
Lester 200-1117 with a 3.66, 2488Ks
Both have 3 rings; however, Schilling is one of the greatest post season pitchers of the last quarter century.
Schilling postseason was 11-2 with a 2,23 ERA and a WS MVP
Lester postseason was 9-7 with a 2.51 ERA
Schilling is not in. Came close last year with 71.1% of votes. Early indications are he is taking a step back this year.
His politics are likely playing a role in his exclusion (which is unfortunate but reality), so were he a nice, soft-spoken individual who kept his political leanings to himself he might have made it in just barely.
To me, Schilling has a slightly better resume than Lester, therefore I don't see Lester as HOF worthy.
Mediocre at best.
Wow, lester had 1117 losses
BA's JAWS score is my go-to:
Hall of Fame Statistics
44.2 career WAR | 34.6 7yr-peak WAR | 39.4 JAWS | 39.4 S-JAWS | 3.3 WAR/162
Average HOF P (out of 66):
73.0 career WAR | 49.8 7yr-peak WAR | 61.4 JAWS | 56.8 S-JAWS | 4.5 WAR/162
Kershaw
Mad Bum
Verlander
Scherzer
Greinke? Kluber? Sabathia? Sale? Then what?
They are going to have to induct somebody
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kershaw (dammit!), verlander, scherzer and, I guess, greinke. maybe sabbathia. without looking at the numbers, I don't think sale.
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14