you quoted me out of context I finished it saying how I presume it's the smae in the uk... judging by the earlier posts
you should probably amend that post.. you know.. to save confusing a lot a people with your assumptions and presumptions
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
HI!! On behalf of the 21st century I would like to welcome you to the year 2008. People no longer trade sticks and bread for goods and services. We now buy items through electronic means; such as a check card backed by mastercard or visa. And do you plan on traveling to the shows by horse and carriage? Because a machine called a "car" has been invented and it is a wonderful piece of machinery. Almost as wonderful as this check card that I spoke of earlier.
But if you really are set on using the barter system I'm sure there are plenty of people on this board who would trade you an official bootleg for your sister. Or your brother. They're not picky around these parts.
Nobody's denying that's how it IS... I just think it's a nasty way of doing business. If I could find the words to articulate the many reasons it's sick, I would.
why is it nasty or sick to require the use of credit or debit cards for purchases online? seriously? how else would one go about securing funds quickly/easily for sales and purchases? it has been covered a few times already that 10c WILL accept debit cards, they just need the visa or MC logo, both of which are EASILY available in the UK - can't say for ireland - and i would be for MOST of the world. if one wants to make online purchases, this is what they need to do. the merchant does not have to accept EVERY single credit/debit card out there. if there is merchandise YOU want, then it's best to get a credit or debit card that is accepted READILY in MOST countries/merchants. i find nothing wrong with that at all.
as to the OP, i see many have chimed in since with the same story - one CAN get a DEBIT CARD with a visa or MC logo in the UK, problem solved. if the OP and/or anyone else doesn't want to do that, fair enough, but don't make it like the 10c is leaving you with 'no options' :rolleyes:...more like one is willingly choosing to limit their own options.
why is it nasty or sick to require the use of credit or debit cards for purchases online? seriously? how else would one go about securing funds quickly/easily for sales and purchases? it has been covered a few times already that 10c WILL accept debit cards, they just need the visa or MC logo, both of which are EASILY available in the UK - can't say for ireland - and i would be for MOST of the world. if one wants to make online purchases, this is what they need to do. the merchant does not have to accept EVERY single credit/debit card out there. if there is merchandise YOU want, then it's best to get a credit or debit card that is accepted READILY in MOST countries/merchants. i find nothing wrong with that at all.
as to the OP, i see many have chimed in since with the same story - one CAN get a DEBIT CARD with a visa or MC logo in the UK, problem solved. if the OP and/or anyone else doesn't want to do that, fair enough, but don't make it like the 10c is leaving you with 'no options' :rolleyes:...more like one is willingly choosing to limit their own options.
well I can't get a debit card HERE with the Visa or MC logo... and I guess it's a nice choice to have alright. Either give up on the merch I want or allow the banks to buy them for me and have access to whatever it is that I want to buy and then owe the banks a percentage of that. Mmmm... no thanks.
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well I can't get a debit card HERE with the Visa or MC logo... and I guess it's a nice choice to have alright. Either give up on the merch I want or allow the banks to buy them for me and have access to whatever it is that I want to buy and then owe the banks a percentage of that. Mmmm... no thanks.
and knowing this, you have a couple of options:
1. get a credit card
2. give a friend or family member cash and use their card for these rare purchases
3. do without whatever merchandise it is you desire.
it's all a CHOICE. if one does not 'believe' in credit, fair enough....but that is YOUR decision, not the merchants. they are protecting themselves and their ease in processing orders by sticking with credit/debit cards with visa and MS logo b/c they ARe the most widely used and accepted, worldwide. i don't think 10c or any merchant for that matter, 'owe' it to me to offer every possible option of creidt/debit cards, i realize how things work, and honestly...i find it 100% acceptible/understandable. if i were a merchant, i'd probably be the same way, especially for worldwide online purchases.
why is it nasty or sick to require the use of credit or debit cards for purchases online? seriously? how else would one go about securing funds quickly/easily for sales and purchases? it has been covered a few times already that 10c WILL accept debit cards, they just need the visa or MC logo, both of which are EASILY available in the UK - can't say for ireland - and i would be for MOST of the world. if one wants to make online purchases, this is what they need to do. the merchant does not have to accept EVERY single credit/debit card out there. if there is merchandise YOU want, then it's best to get a credit or debit card that is accepted READILY in MOST countries/merchants. i find nothing wrong with that at all.
as to the OP, i see many have chimed in since with the same story - one CAN get a DEBIT CARD with a visa or MC logo in the UK, problem solved. if the OP and/or anyone else doesn't want to do that, fair enough, but don't make it like the 10c is leaving you with 'no options' :rolleyes:...more like one is willingly choosing to limit their own options.
couldn't have said it any better than that myself!
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1. get a credit card
2. give a friend or family member cash and use their card for these rare purchases
3. do without whatever merchandise it is you desire.
it's all a CHOICE. if one does not 'believe' in credit, fair enough....but that is YOUR decision, not the merchants. they are protecting themselves and their ease in processing orders by sticking with credit/debit cards with visa and MS logo b/c they ARe the most widely used and accepted, worldwide. i don't think 10c or any merchant for that matter, 'owe' it to me to offer every possible option of creidt/debit cards, i realize how things work, and honestly...i find it 100% acceptible/understandable. if i were a merchant, i'd probably be the same way, especially for worldwide online purchases.
I never said they owe it to me... I did say I have the choice, to either not get the merch or get a credit card, which goes agains a LOT of my principles... luckily I'm not overly big into merch but it can be a pain when booking flights! It's just a discussion... I'm not saying 10c or PJ owe it to me... but I would have thought a socially conscious band like that might consider at some stage that some of their fans might be socially aware also. Most fun things these days, you need a credit card to purchase... not even CLOSE to everybody has a credit card... so really the sellers are losing out on another untapped market by not trying to come up with solutions.
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well I can't get a debit card HERE with the Visa or MC logo....
yes you can
edit: scottish people know about money... if in doubt ask dunk
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
In the U.S they sell prepaid Visa and Mastercards. People give them as gifts here. If they have that overseas that could solve your problem. They sell them at grocery stores and gas stations.
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well I can't get a debit card HERE with the Visa or MC logo... and I guess it's a nice choice to have alright. Either give up on the merch I want or allow the banks to buy them for me and have access to whatever it is that I want to buy and then owe the banks a percentage of that. Mmmm... no thanks.
You dont have to owe anything on the merchandise that you buy.
I just bought 2 tickets to fly to Boston for the Mansfield show and I don't want to pay any interest on that purchase so what I did was buy it on my credit card and then I paid my credit card the next day, credit cards don't charge interest if you pay them before the specified time (usually before the end of the billing cycle) ... I can't even imagine walking around with cash and check as my only option...
"Without the album covers, where do you clean your pot?" - EV
edit: scottish people know about money... if in doubt ask dunk
Actually... yeh I can with Hibernian.. it's the only bank that does it.
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Verona??? it's all surmountable
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Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I never said they owe it to me... I did say I have the choice, to either not get the merch or get a credit card, which goes agains a LOT of my principles... luckily I'm not overly big into merch but it can be a pain when booking flights! It's just a discussion... I'm not saying 10c or PJ owe it to me... but I would have thought a socially conscious band like that might consider at some stage that some of their fans might be socially aware also. Most fun things these days, you need a credit card to purchase... not even CLOSE to everybody has a credit card... so really the sellers are losing out on another untapped market by not trying to come up with solutions.
I'm not bashing on you, I'm just really intrigued as to what are those principles that having a credit card go against, again I'm not being sarcastic I just want to know... I have credit cards and I use them responsibly, I pay them all of at the end of the month and have no balances on them, in my case its an investment because to get a good interest rate when my husband and I decide to buy a home you have to have good credit and having credit cards and using them responsibly helps me build good credit...
But you mention the socially aware fans that don't have credit card, does it mean I'm not socially aware because I do?
I'm just confused I guess as to why you dislike credit card so much
"Without the album covers, where do you clean your pot?" - EV
You dont have to owe anything on the merchandise that you buy.
I just bought 2 tickets to fly to Boston for the Mansfield show and I don't want to pay any interest on that purchase so what I did was buy it on my credit card and then I paid my credit card the next day, credit cards don't charge interest if you pay them before the specified time (usually before the end of the billing cycle) ... I can't even imagine walking around with cash and check as my only option...
I like cash... and I don't like the fact that they're trying to get rid of it... all transactions will be automated and nobody'll have any money... nor will they have any use for it :( it's sad.
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Verona??? it's all surmountable
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Actually... yeh I can with Hibernian.. it's the only bank that does it.
no its not.
not doing to well today are we Hells..
1st you say no-one in UK has them - wrong
then you say you DONT get them in Ireland - wrong
then you say its only one bank - wrong
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
I'm not bashing on you, I'm just really intrigued as to what are those principles that having a credit card go against, again I'm not being sarcastic I just want to know... I have credit cards and I use them responsibly, I pay them all of at the end of the month and have no balances on them, in my case its an investment because to get a good interest rate when my husband and I decide to buy a home you have to have good credit and having credit cards and using them responsibly helps me build good credit...
But you mention the socially aware fans that don't have credit card, does it mean I'm not socially aware because I do?
I'm just confused I guess as to why you dislike credit card so much
I just think it's ridiculous that many people are advocating getting a credit card simply cos it'll help you if you want to buy a house in the future :eek: so having bought things on credit your whole life makes you a good customer and a good candidate to give lots of money to? just none of it makes sense to me. I'm not trying to patronise anyone... but I've had dunk and others patronise me before for this line of thought and he seems to think he's somehow better than me cos he has a mortgage and a credit card and yet every penny I have and everything I own is actually mine
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Verona??? it's all surmountable
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Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I never said they owe it to me... I did say I have the choice, to either not get the merch or get a credit card, which goes agains a LOT of my principles... luckily I'm not overly big into merch but it can be a pain when booking flights! It's just a discussion... I'm not saying 10c or PJ owe it to me... but I would have thought a socially conscious band like that might consider at some stage that some of their fans might be socially aware also. Most fun things these days, you need a credit card to purchase... not even CLOSE to everybody has a credit card... so really the sellers are losing out on another untapped market by not trying to come up with solutions.
i never suggested you did.
seems the OP might tho.
as i've said, i personally do not understand not 'believing' in credit, etc...but that's me. i also don't see why a 'socially conscious' band should be against credit either. credit can be a VERY good thing. the fact that many abuse and overextend themselves has nothing to do with the fact that credit is a very good financial tool. probably most of the homeowners in the world would not own homes without credit. i don't know many people at all without mortgages on their home, or car loans, or student loans, or a credit card.....at least one of those things. credit is VERY helpful. you or others don't want it....a-ok...but i see NO correlation between a socially conscious band and being anti-credit.
again, MOST things require a credit OR debit card with a MC or visa logo, not just a credit card. and IF sellers thought they were losing out, i am sure they'd alter their ways. apparently they think they are just fine, as i imagine them to be, so they don't. especially for worldwide/online sales....it makes total SENSE to have a secured line of credit, whether through a credit card or a debit card....otherwise it would be far too easy for payment NOT to be made....thus why online business is set up as it is. i personally do not see being anti-creidt a matter of principle at all, but that's merely my opinion. obviously, if YOU do...then you don't use it. it may be a pain to do without, but again, that is your personal choice to make.
1st you say no-one in UK has them - wrong
then you say you DONT get them in Ireland - wrong
then you say its only one bank - wrong
so who has them then? :rolleyes:
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Verona??? it's all surmountable
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oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
i never suggested you did.
seems the OP might tho.
as i've said, i personally do not understand not 'believing' in credit, etc...but that's me. i also don't see why a 'socially conscious' band should be against credit either. credit can be a VERY good thing. the fact that many abuse and overextend themselves has nothing to do with the fact that credit is a very good financial tool. probably most of the homeowners in the world would not own homes without credit. i don't know many people at all without mortgages on their home, or car loans, or student loans, or a credit card.....at least one of those things. credit is VERY helpful. you or others don't want it....a-ok...but i see NO correlation between a socially conscious band and being anti-credit.
:eek: this post alone makes me want to scream. You think credits a very good thing and you don't see why I think it might not be??????????? Have you SEEN the state of the world recently???
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
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Wembley? We all believe!
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oops sorry, I meant halifax. Hibernians insurance I think.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I never said they owe it to me... I did say I have the choice, to either not get the merch or get a credit card, which goes agains a LOT of my principles...
I do have to admire you for sticking to your principles. The powers that be certainly make it a lot more convenient for us to give in.
I'm like the only Pearl Jam fan who hates this Verizon partnership, and even I have a credit card.
I do have to admire you for sticking to your principles. The powers that be certainly make it a lot more convenient for us to give in.
I'm like the only Pearl Jam fan who hates this Verizon partnership, and even I have a credit card.
all the OP and Helen need to do is get a fucking debit card with the VISA logo on it.
case dismissed
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oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
I do have to admire you for sticking to your principles. The powers that be certainly make it a lot more convenient for us to give in.
I'm like the only Pearl Jam fan who hates this Verizon partnership, and even I have a credit card.
Oh I don't always stick to them. I'm in the 10club (prepaid vouchers) and I buy flights with prepaid vouchers. They really make it impossible. Sure you can LIVE without a credit card no problem... but if you wanna do stuff, it's IMPOSSIBLE! I can go to a travel agent and pay them 30euro to book my flight for me :rolleyes: but can't afford to do that every time.
SINCE WHEN DID CASH CEASE BEING LEGAL TENDER?
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
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Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
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oops sorry, I meant halifax. Hibernians insurance I think.
[smugness] i knew what you meant [/smugness]
all these wrong postings.. i'm doubting your integrity these days
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
well if you're a fan w/o a credit card, then that also implies that u don't have VISA/MC, which also means u're not part of the 10C which also makes me believe you're not as big a fan as everyone else and would stoop to the level to get the boots for free rather than pay the band for the service they provide that bring you so much pleasure
DAMN...that chicken issss goooood
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:eek: this post alone makes me want to scream. You think credits a very good thing and you don't see why I think it might not be??????????? Have you SEEN the state of the world recently???
There is nothing wrong with credit... the problem is people abusing it and overextending themselves by buying things that they cannot afford. You can easily get a CC, buy let's say monthly groceries on it, and then easily pay the FULL AMOUNT every month on the card, no problems right?? But when you start buying things you cannot afford, then credit (a line of credit at a store) and credit cards can become a heavy burden.
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well in the UK the Scottish Bank note isnt legal tender in England... but the English money is legal up here... so i cant give an exact date... but it was around 1975
weird huh?
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
My take on it is that Pearl Jam is a band based in the US in a society that does overall believe in credit and where virtually anyone with enough disposable income to purchase live Pearl Jam bootlegs has a credit card/debit card with a visa/mc logo/ability to buy a visa gift card/etc. That being said, fans from other countries need to adapt to the USA market to enjoy goods/services purchased from a US based company.
My company buys a lot of product from countries all over the world, and unless financial compensation is involved, it is my responsibility to make any changes to the products to make them conform to the US market (IE products purchased from Mexico typically have instructions/literature in Spanish).
There are far too many options out there for fans who do not have credit cards:
Paypal, visa gift cards, friends with cards, debit cards with MC logo, etc for this to be a problem worthy for Pearl Jam to designate time/money/effort to change.
There's Pearl Jam, The Rolling Stones, Chuck Berry, Robert Johnson......and then everybody else.
There is nothing wrong with credit... the problem is people abusing it and overextending themselves by buying things that they cannot afford. You can easily get a CC, buy let's say monthly groceries on it, and then easily pay the FULL AMOUNT every month on the card, no problems right?? But when you start buying things you cannot afford, then credit (a line of credit at a store) and credit cards can become a heavy burden.
Oh I can easily get a credit cart... I'm offered loads of them... I've had one... they kept putting the limit up without my authorisation. It's MUCH EASIER to spend money you don't have when you're allowed credit. It's much easier to give into a moment of pure weakness when you have access to the money. Now I've no cc... I've cancelled my overdraft, paid back my loans, my savings can only be touched with a 7 day notice... and it's MUCH better. I KNOW everything I have is mine and it feels great.
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Verona??? it's all surmountable
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you should probably amend that post.. you know.. to save confusing a lot a people with your assumptions and presumptions
But if you really are set on using the barter system I'm sure there are plenty of people on this board who would trade you an official bootleg for your sister. Or your brother. They're not picky around these parts.
why is it nasty or sick to require the use of credit or debit cards for purchases online? seriously? how else would one go about securing funds quickly/easily for sales and purchases? it has been covered a few times already that 10c WILL accept debit cards, they just need the visa or MC logo, both of which are EASILY available in the UK - can't say for ireland - and i would be for MOST of the world. if one wants to make online purchases, this is what they need to do. the merchant does not have to accept EVERY single credit/debit card out there. if there is merchandise YOU want, then it's best to get a credit or debit card that is accepted READILY in MOST countries/merchants. i find nothing wrong with that at all.
as to the OP, i see many have chimed in since with the same story - one CAN get a DEBIT CARD with a visa or MC logo in the UK, problem solved. if the OP and/or anyone else doesn't want to do that, fair enough, but don't make it like the 10c is leaving you with 'no options' :rolleyes:...more like one is willingly choosing to limit their own options.
Let's just breathe...
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Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
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and knowing this, you have a couple of options:
1. get a credit card
2. give a friend or family member cash and use their card for these rare purchases
3. do without whatever merchandise it is you desire.
it's all a CHOICE. if one does not 'believe' in credit, fair enough....but that is YOUR decision, not the merchants. they are protecting themselves and their ease in processing orders by sticking with credit/debit cards with visa and MS logo b/c they ARe the most widely used and accepted, worldwide. i don't think 10c or any merchant for that matter, 'owe' it to me to offer every possible option of creidt/debit cards, i realize how things work, and honestly...i find it 100% acceptible/understandable. if i were a merchant, i'd probably be the same way, especially for worldwide online purchases.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
couldn't have said it any better than that myself!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
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Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
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yes you can
edit: scottish people know about money... if in doubt ask dunk
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You dont have to owe anything on the merchandise that you buy.
I just bought 2 tickets to fly to Boston for the Mansfield show and I don't want to pay any interest on that purchase so what I did was buy it on my credit card and then I paid my credit card the next day, credit cards don't charge interest if you pay them before the specified time (usually before the end of the billing cycle) ... I can't even imagine walking around with cash and check as my only option...
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I'm not bashing on you, I'm just really intrigued as to what are those principles that having a credit card go against, again I'm not being sarcastic I just want to know... I have credit cards and I use them responsibly, I pay them all of at the end of the month and have no balances on them, in my case its an investment because to get a good interest rate when my husband and I decide to buy a home you have to have good credit and having credit cards and using them responsibly helps me build good credit...
But you mention the socially aware fans that don't have credit card, does it mean I'm not socially aware because I do?
I'm just confused I guess as to why you dislike credit card so much
Verona??? it's all surmountable
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Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
no its not.
not doing to well today are we Hells..
1st you say no-one in UK has them - wrong
then you say you DONT get them in Ireland - wrong
then you say its only one bank - wrong
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
i never suggested you did.
seems the OP might tho.
as i've said, i personally do not understand not 'believing' in credit, etc...but that's me. i also don't see why a 'socially conscious' band should be against credit either. credit can be a VERY good thing. the fact that many abuse and overextend themselves has nothing to do with the fact that credit is a very good financial tool. probably most of the homeowners in the world would not own homes without credit. i don't know many people at all without mortgages on their home, or car loans, or student loans, or a credit card.....at least one of those things. credit is VERY helpful. you or others don't want it....a-ok...but i see NO correlation between a socially conscious band and being anti-credit.
again, MOST things require a credit OR debit card with a MC or visa logo, not just a credit card. and IF sellers thought they were losing out, i am sure they'd alter their ways. apparently they think they are just fine, as i imagine them to be, so they don't. especially for worldwide/online sales....it makes total SENSE to have a secured line of credit, whether through a credit card or a debit card....otherwise it would be far too easy for payment NOT to be made....thus why online business is set up as it is. i personally do not see being anti-creidt a matter of principle at all, but that's merely my opinion. obviously, if YOU do...then you don't use it. it may be a pain to do without, but again, that is your personal choice to make.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
you are in Ireland you should tell me.
hint: halifax
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I do have to admire you for sticking to your principles. The powers that be certainly make it a lot more convenient for us to give in.
I'm like the only Pearl Jam fan who hates this Verizon partnership, and even I have a credit card.
all the OP and Helen need to do is get a fucking debit card with the VISA logo on it.
case dismissed
Dunkman awarded freedom of Argentina
SINCE WHEN DID CASH CEASE BEING LEGAL TENDER?
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
[smugness] i knew what you meant [/smugness]
all these wrong postings.. i'm doubting your integrity these days
DAMN...that chicken issss goooood
2006: Camden 1&2, East Ruth 1&2
2008: BONNAROO, MSG1, MSG2, Hartford
2009: Philly 1, 2, 4
2010: Hartford, MSG1, MSG2
2012: Made in America
2013: BK1, BK2, Hartford
2015: Global Citizens
2016: MSG 2 (ISO MSG1)
EV Solo: NJPAC 2008; Tower Theatre, PA 2009; Hartford 2011
There is nothing wrong with credit... the problem is people abusing it and overextending themselves by buying things that they cannot afford. You can easily get a CC, buy let's say monthly groceries on it, and then easily pay the FULL AMOUNT every month on the card, no problems right?? But when you start buying things you cannot afford, then credit (a line of credit at a store) and credit cards can become a heavy burden.
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Social awareness does not equal political activism!
5/23/2011- An utter embarrassment... ticketing failures too many to list.
well in the UK the Scottish Bank note isnt legal tender in England... but the English money is legal up here... so i cant give an exact date... but it was around 1975
weird huh?
My company buys a lot of product from countries all over the world, and unless financial compensation is involved, it is my responsibility to make any changes to the products to make them conform to the US market (IE products purchased from Mexico typically have instructions/literature in Spanish).
There are far too many options out there for fans who do not have credit cards:
Paypal, visa gift cards, friends with cards, debit cards with MC logo, etc for this to be a problem worthy for Pearl Jam to designate time/money/effort to change.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you