What is proper fence etiquette with your neighbor?

Wobbie

steaks or stakes? :wtf:

mickeyrat

The Jeagler wrote:

yeah i dont know those people. they are not really my neighbors just people who live in the development. if i see 'em out walking the dog tomorrow i will ask though.

and that's not the real "garden" part of the garden. i just have that kind of 4 feet deep barrier around my house with bushes and small flowers and shit...

Ohhhh, more is revealed. I think they refer to that kind of thing as "landscaping"!!!

Wobbie

The Jeagler wrote:

and that's not the real "garden" part of the garden. i just have that kind of 4 feet deep barrier around my house with bushes and small flowers and shit...

literal "shit"? :wtf:

mickeyrat

imalive wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

and that's not the real "garden" part of the garden. i just have that kind of 4 feet deep barrier around my house with bushes and small flowers and shit...

literal "shit"? :wtf:

he does have a dog!!!!

The Juggler

imalive wrote:

steaks or stakes? :wtf:

cheese steaks. the guy left actual cheese steaks.

he was not very professional.

Byrnzie

Neighbours + loud rock 'N Roll music + wild 24 hour parties = complaints and uptight individuals. Therefore, neighbours suck elephants!

End of discussion.

Jo

Byrnzie wrote:

Neighbours + loud rock 'N Roll music + wild 24 hour parties = complaints and uptight individuals. Therefore, neighbours suck elephants!

End of discussion.

What if the above is the norm, but you have 3 hectares with stock proof fenching on your behalf? but you own NO stock, but let your neighbors horses in to keep the grass down.......HEY!?? what then? Who is responsible for putting on a BBQ fully cattered??? HEY?..... Who supplies the Food and Wine?.........stupid fences.

Thats why I have installed a gate between all my neighbors, my BBQ is thiers, but only if thier starving

The Juggler

i don't have the actual survey report yet. i haven't even paid for this thing as of now. i am just going by the stakes in the yard. comparing my appraisal from a few years ago (property lines have not changed since then) to me walking off the distance between the stakes i think i'm getting jipped by about 6 square feet or so. it was kind of dark when i was walking it off but i think i was fairly accurate. i am going to whip out the ol' tape measure tomorrow to get my actual measurement though.

hey cory--with appraisals, you guys just go off what the county courthouse has for the property's dimensions right? how could a surveyor have different info?

The Juggler

okay...so i measured everything with my tape measure and...........it looks like the surveyor was right on point. a few of my neighbors were out there looking at it with me and they all assumed our properties all went at least another 5 feet out. that's where the landscapers cut the common grass to...

which leads me to this: do you think a fence guy would be willing to go out an extra few feet from where the survey is? keep in mind it is not infringing on anyone's land other than, technically the hoa. the hoa just needs a copy of the survey to okay the fence. i do not believe they are going to come out and measure or get their own survey done to make sure everything lines up unless, maybe someone complains--which they wont because it seems everyone in this general area assumed the property extended out a few more feet. wost case scenario is the hoa will force me to take it down or impose fines if it is over the property line...but if i provide proof that i got the survey done and everything, i don't see them even thinking about this further...

what say you?

mickeyrat

The Jeagler wrote:

okay...so i measured everything with my tape measure and...........it looks like the surveyor was right on point. a few of my neighbors were out there looking at it with me and they all assumed our properties all went at least another 5 feet out. that's where the landscapers cut the common grass to...

which leads me to this: do you think a fence guy would be willing to go out an extra few feet from where the survey is? keep in mind it is not infringing on anyone's land other than, technically the hoa. the hoa just needs a copy of the survey to okay the fence. i do not believe they are going to come out and measure or get their own survey done to make sure everything lines up unless, maybe someone complains--which they wont because it seems everyone in this general area assumed the property extended out a few more feet. wost case scenario is the hoa will force me to take it down or impose fines if it is over the property line...but if i provide proof that i got the survey done and everything, i don't see them even thinking about this further...

what say you?

seems you know the risks. in addition , I take it you have been taking care of the grass that doesn't "belong" to you? Any of the other neighbors with fences in place outside of the property line already have any issues with the hoa? If they didn't , I'd say go for it. But it is your wallet.

The Juggler

mickeyrat wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

okay...so i measured everything with my tape measure and...........it looks like the surveyor was right on point. a few of my neighbors were out there looking at it with me and they all assumed our properties all went at least another 5 feet out. that's where the landscapers cut the common grass to...

which leads me to this: do you think a fence guy would be willing to go out an extra few feet from where the survey is? keep in mind it is not infringing on anyone's land other than, technically the hoa. the hoa just needs a copy of the survey to okay the fence. i do not believe they are going to come out and measure or get their own survey done to make sure everything lines up unless, maybe someone complains--which they wont because it seems everyone in this general area assumed the property extended out a few more feet. wost case scenario is the hoa will force me to take it down or impose fines if it is over the property line...but if i provide proof that i got the survey done and everything, i don't see them even thinking about this further...

what say you?

seems you know the risks. in addition , I take it you have been taking care of the grass that doesn't "belong" to you? Any of the other neighbors with fences in place outside of the property line already have any issues with the hoa? If they didn't , I'd say go for it. But it is your wallet.

yes and i'll continue to cut outside of my area. not sure if others have had issues though...

where is the hammerdonkey when you need him? come on dude--chime in! i need an appraiser's opinion on all this.

Franny

Jo wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

Neighbours + loud rock 'N Roll music + wild 24 hour parties = complaints and uptight individuals. Therefore, neighbours suck elephants!

End of discussion.

What if the above is the norm, but you have 3 hectares with stock proof fenching on your behalf? but you own NO stock, but let your neighbors horses in to keep the grass down.......HEY!?? what then? Who is responsible for putting on a BBQ fully cattered??? HEY?..... Who supplies the Food and Wine?.........stupid fences.

Thats why I have installed a gate between all my neighbors, my BBQ is thiers, but only if thier starving

I think I must live in the worlds most perfect street. Seriously it is no through road with only 19 blocks all between 3/4 - 2 acres, and everyone gets along. We all know who each other are, but don't live in each others pockets. And we also have a gate between our place and the neighbours. It is like a mini utopia.....and especially after other places where I had the nieghbours from hell. I had neighbours once who were on a first name basis with the cops. We had to call the cops at least twice a week and when you'd give the cops the address the response was" Not them again!!!!" OH yeah....I wouldn't trade this street for anything.

Wobbie

this is turning into a cluster.....maybe the jeagler should just move. :?

The Juggler

spoke to the surveryor. he said, in his research, that most people with fences in my development didn't even get a survey done. apparently he can tell because they would all have to have the metal stakes in the ground.

so i'm just gonna check with the fence dude to see if he will go over the line for me.

acoustic guy

Depends if they are gypsies or not :wave:

catefrances

The Jeagler wrote:

spoke to the surveryor. he said, in his research, that most people with fences in my development didn't even get a survey done. apparently he can tell because they would all have to have the metal stakes in the ground.

so i'm just gonna check with the fence dude to see if he will go over the line for me.

ok... but when youre asked to pull your fence down cause its over the boundary, dont be starting a thread whingeing at the authorites. :P

mickeyrat

catefrances wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

spoke to the surveryor. he said, in his research, that most people with fences in my development didn't even get a survey done. apparently he can tell because they would all have to have the metal stakes in the ground.

so i'm just gonna check with the fence dude to see if he will go over the line for me.

ok... but when youre asked to pull your fence down cause its over the boundary, dont be starting a thread whingeing at the authorites. :P

I'm getting the popcorn ready for that one!!!!

The Juggler

mickeyrat wrote:

catefrances wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

spoke to the surveryor. he said, in his research, that most people with fences in my development didn't even get a survey done. apparently he can tell because they would all have to have the metal stakes in the ground.

so i'm just gonna check with the fence dude to see if he will go over the line for me.

ok... but when youre asked to pull your fence down cause its over the boundary, dont be starting a thread whingeing at the authorites. :P

I'm getting the popcorn ready for that one!!!!

i know the risks young catherine. i know the risks.

by the way...i never met the surveyor in person. just phone and email. the fiance met him and said he "looks like a rapist." she gathered up the dog and left the house for a couple hours while he was doing his work. my dog walker said he looked odd too. i didn't think too much of it until last night. he told me he would drop the survey off on my front door yesterday if we were not home. i get back from work around 10pm--no survey. so an hour later i am watching tv and the dog starts barking. i ignore her and tell her to shut up. at 11:30 i let her out to pee and there is the survey sitting right in front of my door. the guy dropped it off at 11pm at night. odd, huh?

Hammerdonkey

Jeags, your property dimensions are public info. For example, if you own a rectangular shaped lot, your tax records will clearly show the length and width and it may be something like 100x150 or 75x125. The more irregular the shape, the more difficult it is to determine where those lines begin and end.

An appraiser would use courthouse info for your lot data.

A surveyor would use title work. The legal description on the title is far more detailed. In some cases, a page long of boring writing that start with the northeast corner going southwest for a distance of 75 feet blah blah blah.

An easy thing to do would be call a realtor and ask what homeowners typically do when building a fence. How close do they get to the property line? How do they determine the property line? Make sure it's a relatively decent agent that has been in the business for several years. This isn't something a newb would know.

JaneNY

Hammerdonkey wrote:

Jeags, your property dimensions are public info. For example, if you own a rectangular shaped lot, your tax records will clearly show the length and width and it may be something like 100x150 or 75x125. The more irregular the shape, the more difficult it is to determine where those lines begin and end.

Yes that is true - you can just go to the tax records which is what we did and we're a simple rectangular property. One thing we discovered was the property dimension depth-wise was measured from the center of the road we are on. I don't know if that's the case everywhere though.