What is proper fence etiquette with your neighbor?

The Juggler

Hammerdonkey wrote:

Jeags, your property dimensions are public info. For example, if you own a rectangular shaped lot, your tax records will clearly show the length and width and it may be something like 100x150 or 75x125. The more irregular the shape, the more difficult it is to determine where those lines begin and end.

An appraiser would use courthouse info for your lot data.

A surveyor would use title work. The legal description on the title is far more detailed. In some cases, a page long of boring writing that start with the northeast corner going southwest for a distance of 75 feet blah blah blah.

An easy thing to do would be call a realtor and ask what homeowners typically do when building a fence. How close do they get to the property line? How do they determine the property line? Make sure it's a relatively decent agent that has been in the business for several years. This isn't something a newb would know.

thanks dude. i think i am about all set. just waiting on the hoa to approve everything.

by the way, on average, in a townhouse development that primarily consists of younger couples and married people with young kids...how much value can i expect to get back from the fence? i'm thinking about 50% of the cost. to me, its not about the investment so much as it is the privacy and stuff. but i was just curious what you thought. and i realize every area is different...

Hammerdonkey

In this area, wood privacy fences have a little more appeal than chain link but I believe that's typical for anywhere.

The value it adds is relative to the size and amount of seclusion it may add. We generally don't give a lot of value to homes with wood privacy fences vs. Homes without fences at all. It's too difficult to show on paper if the adjustment is too high. Then we have to go through matched pair analysis with the underwriter and fuck all that.

So, in this area, $1000-$1500 would be a pretty safe adjustment without having to jump through hoops on an appraisal to prove it.

eyedclaar

Hammerdonkey wrote:

In this area, wood privacy fences have a little more appeal than chain link but I believe that's typical for anywhere.

The value it adds is relative to the size and amount of seclusion it may add. We generally don't give a lot of value to homes with wood privacy fences vs. Homes without fences at all. It's too difficult to show on paper if the adjustment is too high. Then we have to go through matched pair analysis with the underwriter and fuck all that.

So, in this area, $1000-$1500 would be a pretty safe adjustment without having to jump through hoops on an appraisal to prove it.

What the hell? No update on your balls? People need to be kept informed!

Dissidentman

Hammerdonkey wrote:

In this area, wood privacy fences have a little more appeal than chain link but I believe that's typical for anywhere.

The value it adds is relative to the size and amount of seclusion it may add. We generally don't give a lot of value to homes with wood privacy fences vs. Homes without fences at all. It's too difficult to show on paper if the adjustment is too high. Then we have to go through matched pair analysis with the underwriter and fuck all that.

So, in this area, $1000-$1500 would be a pretty safe adjustment without having to jump through hoops on an appraisal to prove it.

I don't know if I agree. My girlfriend says wood adds tremendous value. I believe she has gone so far as to say I'd be worth little without it. bunch of hoo-ey if you ask me.

81

weird, i got a copy of the survey when i bought the house.

Hammerdonkey

81 wrote:

weird, i got a copy of the survey when i bought the house.

That's not typical unless you paid an additional fee when you bought your house. People don't just pull surveys from their ass. Somebody has to produce that info since it's not publically accesible

And eyed, my balls are great. They are smooth and ovular in a gigantic sort of fashion.

The Juggler

81 wrote:

weird, i got a copy of the survey when i bought the house.

certain states require them. pa does not.

The Juggler

Hammerdonkey wrote:

In this area, wood privacy fences have a little more appeal than chain link but I believe that's typical for anywhere.

The value it adds is relative to the size and amount of seclusion it may add. We generally don't give a lot of value to homes with wood privacy fences vs. Homes without fences at all. It's too difficult to show on paper if the adjustment is too high. Then we have to go through matched pair analysis with the underwriter and fuck all that.

So, in this area, $1000-$1500 would be a pretty safe adjustment without having to jump through hoops on an appraisal to prove it.

good info. the hoa requires wooden ones.

thanks man!

chadwick

i personally believe that the jeagles needs razor wire fencing.
he is quite possibly a menance.

Franny

Fuck I hope this fence is friggin gold plated! I want phots of the bloody thing when it's done too!

The Juggler

well i got a bunch of posts setting in my backyard right now.

the dog will be able to roam free come tomorrow afternoon.

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

chadwick

Sagittarius Crux wrote:

Fuck I hope this fence is friggin gold plated! I want phots of the bloody thing when it's done too!

that aint no shit.
as much effort and time that has gone into the jeagler's fence thread, i feel we deserve pictures, blue print schematics, flow charts, and the laser read tripod surveying numbers.
i am looking forward to the jeagler's dog roaming free and shitting in the jeagler's yard.

Wobbie

chadwick wrote:

as much effort and time that has gone into the jeagler's fence thread, i feel we deserve pictures, blue print schematics, flow charts, and the laser read tripod surveying numbers.
i am looking forward to the jeagler's dog roaming free and shitting in the jeagler's yard.

I concur.

The Juggler

chadwick wrote:

Sagittarius Crux wrote:

Fuck I hope this fence is friggin gold plated! I want phots of the bloody thing when it's done too!

that aint no shit.
as much effort and time that has gone into the jeagler's fence thread, i feel we deserve pictures, blue print schematics, flow charts, and the laser read tripod surveying numbers.
i am looking forward to the jeagler's dog roaming free and shitting in the jeagler's yard.

it's up...cant wait to get home to see it :thumbup:

eyedclaar

The Jeagler wrote:

chadwick wrote:

Sagittarius Crux wrote:

Fuck I hope this fence is friggin gold plated! I want phots of the bloody thing when it's done too!

that aint no shit.
as much effort and time that has gone into the jeagler's fence thread, i feel we deserve pictures, blue print schematics, flow charts, and the laser read tripod surveying numbers.
i am looking forward to the jeagler's dog roaming free and shitting in the jeagler's yard.

it's up...cant wait to get home to see it :thumbup:

Wait, after all this, you didn't even erect the damn thing? tee-hee, I said erect.

chadwick

The Jeagler wrote:

chadwick wrote:

Sagittarius Crux wrote:

Fuck I hope this fence is friggin gold plated! I want phots of the bloody thing when it's done too!

that aint no shit.
as much effort and time that has gone into the jeagler's fence thread, i feel we deserve pictures, blue print schematics, flow charts, and the laser read tripod surveying numbers.
i am looking forward to the jeagler's dog roaming free and shitting in the jeagler's yard.

it's up...cant wait to get home to see it :thumbup:

good job, Sir.
now listen here little mister.
we all have been learning a great deal on proper fencing etiquette with neighbors.
many of us feel we deserve pictures, laser read measurements, and blue print work.
it's rumored some people on here want your fence installer guy's number.
good luck, mr. the jeagler.
watch out for the dog shit.

norm

i was watching this show where this guy was building an addition onto his house and was doing it by himself...so after hand digging the footings, the building inspector came to sign off...upon measuring, he found that the footings were too close to the property line...mind you, the existing, 50 year old house is also too close to the property line but neither the inspector nor the city cared...either he would have had to wait 6+ months to possibly get a variance or re-dig the footings...show ended with the guy digging new footings

moral of the story, make sure your shit is legal before you do it...or do what my parents have always done and not get permits for anything

chadwick

norm wrote:

i was watching this show where this guy was building an addition onto his house and was doing it by himself...so after hand digging the footings, the building inspector came to sign off...upon measuring, he found that the footings were too close to the property line...mind you, the existing, 50 year old house is also too close to the property line but neither the inspector nor the city cared...either he would have had to wait 6+ months to possibly get a variance or re-dig the footings...show ended with the guy digging new footings

moral of the story, make sure your shit is legal before you do it...or do what my parents have always done and not get permits for anything

excellent point, norm.
they don't know shit if you don't tell 'em.
fence/garage permits? not in this lifetime.

just last year i installed a runway for my jets.
my pilots smuggling stuff from south america gotta land somewhere.
i told my neighbors to kiss my ass.

The Juggler

adropinthepark

chadwick wrote:

norm wrote:

i was watching this show where this guy was building an addition onto his house and was doing it by himself...so after hand digging the footings, the building inspector came to sign off...upon measuring, he found that the footings were too close to the property line...mind you, the existing, 50 year old house is also too close to the property line but neither the inspector nor the city cared...either he would have had to wait 6+ months to possibly get a variance or re-dig the footings...show ended with the guy digging new footings

moral of the story, make sure your shit is legal before you do it...or do what my parents have always done and not get permits for anything

excellent point, norm.
they don't know shit if you don't tell 'em.
fence/garage permits? not in this lifetime.

just last year i installed a runway for my jets.
my pilots smuggling stuff from south america gotta land somewhere.
i told my neighbors to kiss my ass.

I'm looking at my mom's neighbor's house. I can tell he didn't get permits for his carport, because it extends right to the property line - well over the building setback.

If anyone in that house ever causes my mom any grief, I will have fun watching them tear down their carport down after I report their asses. :twisted:

Signed,
Your friendly neighborhood Permit Specialist