Obesity only here in the USA ?

josevolution

Spent 10 days in in Italy and i did not see any obese people at all in fact the only one i would call obese was an American that was part of the tour i was on .. :oops:

neilybabes86

its weird because us italians love to eat :problem: :eh:

know1

I can't speak about other countries, but just looking around here I would say that it's gotten to the point where about 2/3 of the population over 22 is fat.

Brisk.

Yes.. when i went to the states a year back i couldn't believe 5 bucks for a footlong at subway and unlimited drink and this was in the heart of NY. Here that costs roughly 10 bucks.

But our nation has a growing problem though.

neilybabes86

this is why new york is looking to pass the soda tax

Jo

Australia has been named number 1, per ratio of people, for the worst Obesity :oops:
YES! Aussies lead the way when it comes to Obesity per capita.

But no wonder......
because of our couch festering, channel surfing, ipad socialising lazy parents AND the local community who do the same stuff, our kids are kept indoors immitating Mum and Dad. Sitting around eating because thier bored, getting fat and lazy like thier parents......It's too hard for the parents to take the kids down the park on thier bikes....too cold, too hot, to0 dark, too dangerous, too bothersome.......and the Mum or Dad/community want to stay home incase they get a note on Faceache. :oops:

I just read in yesterdays news paper, that OUR schools are going to employ " Wii FIT " as part of the physical education program......
..........HELLO :wave: Whatever happened to REAL tenis and REAL baseball?? :crazy:

Lucky for me I'm Techno Stupid and have no choice but to join my family outside running-a-muck!

Jo

neilybabes86 wrote:

its weird because us italians love to eat :problem: :eh:

Your food is home cooked with natural ingredience and tastes friggin AWESOME!
And then you go outside and play bocci and drink red wine.....so it's all good.

Rygar

Brisk. wrote:

But our nation has a growing problem though.

Pun intended!

josevolution

I was in Rome, Florence,Venice and other small towns and i did not see any obese folks at all the foods were awesome the wines great , as soon as i got back to NY Airport i saw like 5 people i would classify as obese .....

Claireack

The North of England has the same problem as anywhere else, we're all getting fuller figured.

polaris_x

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_o ... th-obesity

josevolution

polaris_x wrote:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_obe-health-obesity

Yeah i figured as much USA numero 1 ..

Brisk.

Rygar wrote:

Brisk. wrote:

But our nation has a growing problem though.

Pun intended!

No lol, didnt realise.

Gossard_Is_God

Scotland is now officially the most obese nation in Europe

decides2dream

funny, i recently read an article about obesity in the world, and of course, the USA was # 1 with the highest rates - no surprise there. however, following the US, and i am not remembering in order but......was also the UK, canada and australia. maybe there's just something with speaking english?

dcfaithful

neilybabes86 wrote:

this is why new york is looking to pass the soda tax

Yet, it's sad that that might be what it takes. :roll:

Starfall

You can thank the multinational megacorporations who get government subsidies to pump obscenely high amounts of processed foods, GMOs, high fructose corn syrup, soy, and other stuff into our diet.
Ubiquitous, and dirt cheap.
When it's cheaper to buy a McDonald's meal for $3 than a real, honest healthy meal...you know you have a problem.

polaris_x

Starfall wrote:

You can thank the multinational megacorporations who get government subsidies to pump obscenely high amounts of processed foods, GMOs, high fructose corn syrup, soy, and other stuff into our diet.
Ubiquitous, and dirt cheap.
When it's cheaper to buy a McDonald's meal for $3 than a real, honest healthy meal...you know you have a problem.

don't tell this to the corn growers ... they believe they are feeding the planet!

know1

Starfall wrote:

You can thank the multinational megacorporations who get government subsidies to pump obscenely high amounts of processed foods, GMOs, high fructose corn syrup, soy, and other stuff into our diet.
Ubiquitous, and dirt cheap.
When it's cheaper to buy a McDonald's meal for $3 than a real, honest healthy meal...you know you have a problem.

Ahh yes...it's THE MAN'S fault we're all fat.

Nothing is ever anyone's fault anymore, huh?

There are a lot of people who are just plain lazy and over eat. That's the problem.

Brisk.

know1 wrote:

Starfall wrote:

You can thank the multinational megacorporations who get government subsidies to pump obscenely high amounts of processed foods, GMOs, high fructose corn syrup, soy, and other stuff into our diet.
Ubiquitous, and dirt cheap.
When it's cheaper to buy a McDonald's meal for $3 than a real, honest healthy meal...you know you have a problem.

Ahh yes...it's THE MAN'S fault we're all fat.

Nothing is ever anyone's fault anymore, huh?

There are a lot of people who are just plain lazy and over eat. That's the problem.

I think its about 75% us and maybe 15% us but yeah i dont get how people get obese... seriously makes no fuckin sense to me, do people not think oh look im getting pretty fat i better stop, it doesn't cease to amaze me how some people let themselves get so big (excluding the very very small % who are mentally ill).

If they made fatty sugary foods more expensive that would definitaly solve the problem, but then again its all good in moderation.

RW81233

First of all American Samoa has the highest rate of obesity per person. Second, all late-capitalist, first world nations are experiencing an overall rise in the average size of the human body. Third of all obesity isn't the "epidemic" our President and his wife would lead us to believe that it is. For instance did you know that being 5 pounds underweight is as bad for you healthwise as being 75 pounds overweight! Or that being "overweight" (25-31 BMI I believe) actually gives an individual a longer life expectency, and that goes up as you age. That focusing on losing weight and keeping it off has never been demonstrated to have any positive health outcomes (mostly because there's a 95 percent fail rate in dieting and that indicates yo-yo dieting fat/thin/fat/thin...etc which is worse for you than just being fat).

There are multiple things that are contributing to our fear of "fat". One is that being REALLY overweight IS detrimental to your health, so there's an element of truth in pushing the obesity myth. Two, in the U.S. we live in a society that now privileges thinness (because it is a marker of social class and has become the norm in regard to attractiveness), this is different from 1800s and 1900s when being fat meant you were rich enough to consume a lot of food (therefore no social stigmatism). Three there's a SHIT TON of money to be made in the diet industry, the snack food industry, the grocery industry, the corn industry, the soda industry, and so on which infiltrate the minds of youngsters so much so that by the age of 5 we know virtually every snack food available for consumption. This means that YES it is the Man's fault when they create the very desires that make us "fat" then encourage us to get "thin", Know1 you're suggesting that our "desires" for bad foods just come from personal "failings" but that would suggest that we disregard the omnipresent commercialization of junk food (try as we might it's pretty fucking difficult).

What happens then is a perfect self-perpetuating capitalist platform where we purchase food and soda that gets us fat, then purchase more shit (like weight watchers, gym memberships, stomache stapling, and so on) to try to get thin. And yes the Man is extremely fearful that this gets found out, which is why they buy off researchers to create findings that support corn syrup, and stupid shit like that which means that the common person is confused as to which way is up. A perfect example of this was on Jaime Oliver's show last week where a girl said her dad died because he was obese, when no peer reviewed study has found anything more than a 9 percent corrolation between obesity and mortality. Yet we think this is true, b/c the Man makes money off of our belief that it is.

Got a hard hard head

I've just made a post in another thread about how fewer and fewer people, especially children, are spending so much time with video games, pc's, macs etc. and aren't partipating in as many outdoor activities and they would have been before the birth of the microchip.

I wonder if there is any correlation between the increase in child obesity and the advance of technology in the home? When I was between 8 and 14 years old, I spent the vast majority of my recreational time outdoors.

know1

RW81233 wrote:

First of all American Samoa has the highest rate of obesity per person. Second, all late-capitalist, first world nations are experiencing an overall rise in the average size of the human body. Third of all obesity isn't the "epidemic" our President and his wife would lead us to believe that it is. For instance did you know that being 5 pounds underweight is as bad for you healthwise as being 75 pounds overweight! Or that being "overweight" (25-31 BMI I believe) actually gives an individual a longer life expectency, and that goes up as you age. That focusing on losing weight and keeping it off has never been demonstrated to have any positive health outcomes (mostly because there's a 95 percent fail rate in dieting and that indicates yo-yo dieting fat/thin/fat/thin...etc which is worse for you than just being fat).

There are multiple things that are contributing to our fear of "fat". One is that being REALLY overweight IS detrimental to your health, so there's an element of truth in pushing the obesity myth. Two, in the U.S. we live in a society that now privileges thinness (because it is a marker of social class and has become the norm in regard to attractiveness), this is different from 1800s and 1900s when being fat meant you were rich enough to consume a lot of food (therefore no social stigmatism). Three there's a SHIT TON of money to be made in the diet industry, the snack food industry, the grocery industry, the corn industry, the soda industry, and so on which infiltrate the minds of youngsters so much so that by the age of 5 we know virtually every snack food available for consumption. This means that YES it is the Man's fault when they create the very desires that make us "fat" then encourage us to get "thin", Know1 you're suggesting that our "desires" for bad foods just come from personal "failings" but that would suggest that we disregard the omnipresent commercialization of junk food (try as we might it's pretty fucking difficult).

What happens then is a perfect self-perpetuating capitalist platform where we purchase food and soda that gets us fat, then purchase more shit (like weight watchers, gym memberships, stomache stapling, and so on) to try to get thin. And yes the Man is extremely fearful that this gets found out, which is why they buy off researchers to create findings that support corn syrup, and stupid shit like that which means that the common person is confused as to which way is up. A perfect example of this was on Jaime Oliver's show last week where a girl said her dad died because he was obese, when no peer reviewed study has found anything more than a 9 percent corrolation between obesity and mortality. Yet we think this is true, b/c the Man makes money off of our belief that it is.

I just get a laugh whenever the lines "we live in a society that teaches us ______" are used as an excuse for anything. Contrary to what a lot of people seem to believe, people can think for themselves and have the freedom to make their own choices. If they decided to just blindly follow "society" (and what does that mean, anyway - society is different for each of us), then they are likely doomed to begin with.

morello

Problem here in New Zealand as well. I know I've put on too much weight in the last few years too!! ;-)

Kel Varnsen

Got a hard hard head wrote:

I've just made a post in another thread about how fewer and fewer people, especially children, are spending so much time with video games, pc's, macs etc. and aren't partipating in as many outdoor activities and they would have been before the birth of the microchip.

I wonder if there is any correlation between the increase in child obesity and the advance of technology in the home? When I was between 8 and 14 years old, I spent the vast majority of my recreational time outdoors.

I do know that, at least in North America where there is so much available land, a big part of the problem is that the goal for a lot of people is to live in a big house in the suburbs with a big yard and all of that. The problem with living in these suburbs is that instead of being able to walk to the store, or to a friends house, or to school, people have to drive everywhere.

MayDay10

I dont know. Looking out my window at work in South Jersey, there is a very large percentage of FAT people outside walking by all day long. They dont look healthy at all. A lot of them walk slow, heads down, some limping, etc... a lot of times smoking cigarettes and stumbling into one of the many local subshops or pizzarias.

Also, kids are so sedentary nowadays it is unbelievable and sad. When I was growing up in the 80's and early-mid 90's, a day didnt go by that we werent playing baseball, soccer, football, street hockey, etc... Driving by the same fields, 99% of the time they are empty. When kids are actually playing there are usually about 3-6 kids as opposed to the 15-20 we would have on a daily basis. So many kids are obese now, thats not good.

Judging from what I see first hand and know from my background and training in Exercise Physiology... Obesity is a large problem which is rapidly getting worse.

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polaris_x wrote:

Starfall wrote:

You can thank the multinational megacorporations who get government subsidies to pump obscenely high amounts of processed foods, GMOs, high fructose corn syrup, soy, and other stuff into our diet.
Ubiquitous, and dirt cheap.
When it's cheaper to buy a McDonald's meal for $3 than a real, honest healthy meal...you know you have a problem.

don't tell this to the corn growers ... they believe they are feeding the planet!

Have you seen the documentary King Corn? I recommend it.

mikalina

Plain and simple, our portions are just HUGE compared to other countries. We also eat way too much.

polaris_x

scb wrote:

Have you seen the documentary King Corn? I recommend it.

thanks ... i'll look for it ...

people have to understand nutrition when they look at the role of processed foods ... when you get pumped full of this artificial stuff ... some of the crap creates these defencicies where you are essentially craving more of it ... hence people over eating ...

facepollution

The main problem is the fact that most people don't have the first clue how and why their body stores fat. Whilst governments focus on demonizing saturated fat and promote a high carb diet, they completely circumnavigate the fact that high carbs > insulin release > fat storage.

Get_Right

1. processed foods-of all types
2. sedentary lifestyle
really thats all there is to it

Hope you had a good trip Jose!