The Grammys

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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    pjhawks said:
    igotid88 said:
    Pearl Jam lose to The Beatles for Rock Performance
    The Beatles winning a Grammy in 2025 is pretty ridiculous.  Just goes to show you people get stupid when that band is brought up.  Not to mention should be in the pop category not rock..
    It would be ridiculous if they won it in 2025 for a song that was released in 1966. This song was released last year. People like it. People are not stupid for liking the Beatles. The Beatles are, objectively speaking, the greatest band in the history of rock. All of the musicians they beat, including the members of Pearl Jam, revere them and love their music.
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  • BF25394
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    vedpunk said:
    The Grammys are a joke. 
    There is some truth to this, but not because Pearl Jam didn't win.

    On a separate note, some of the nominating process is a function of what a label pushes for, and some of it is just laziness by the nominating committee, but "Dark Matter" was not the best song to put forward for consideration. "Wreckage" would have had a broader appeal to more members of the Recording Academy (and it was more widely played). And all of this is stated with the caveat that a lot of voters are not putting a lot of thought into their votes, especially in the genre categories, although this is somewhat mitigated by the byzantine voting process which tries to ensure that people are not voting in categories that they're not familiar with or for artists who are not their peers.
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  • vedpunk
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    We can’t really determine how much effort and resources were actually put into promoting and politicking Dark Matter to the Grammy Voting Committee.  As an outsider though, the voters just seem lazy and go with same old Stones and Beatles.  I think it’s safe to say that Pearl Jam is one of the few bands that actually put out a phenomenal “rock” album that was universally loved by most of the “rock” audience.  
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,761
    Maybe they didn't thank god enough 
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,044
    BF25394 said:
    pjhawks said:
    igotid88 said:
    Pearl Jam lose to The Beatles for Rock Performance
    The Beatles winning a Grammy in 2025 is pretty ridiculous.  Just goes to show you people get stupid when that band is brought up.  Not to mention should be in the pop category not rock..
    It would be ridiculous if they won it in 2025 for a song that was released in 1966. This song was released last year. People like it. People are not stupid for liking the Beatles. The Beatles are, objectively speaking, the greatest band in the history of rock. All of the musicians they beat, including the members of Pearl Jam, revere them and love their music.
    If the song they released last year was by a band not named the Beatles it would never see the light of day let get a Grammy nomination and win.  Thats my point that people get out of whack when it’s the Beatles.  They are the most important band in the history of rock without question,  but not everything they’ve ever put out is great or should be celebrated.  But if they found tapes of those four yodeling people would say it’s great
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,761
    edited February 3
    Well Annie used one of Mike's guitars on one of her songs on the album. So by osmosis. (I don't think that's the right word but you know what I mean)Pearl Jam have a little part of that win
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,761
    When the announcer said a performance you thought you would never see. Were you wishing it was Pearl Jam? It was The Weeknd
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,185
    Never thought PJ for a second. The Weeknd was a great surprise. Great performance too
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,761
    Tim Simmons said:
    Never thought PJ for a second. The Weeknd was a great surprise. Great performance too
    I wouldn't call it a surprise even though he had that beef when he didn't get any nominations. Same year Pearl Jam also didn't get any. 
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  • RatherStarved
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    Personally I liked the Bruno Mars/Lady Gaga version of California Dreaming the best of anything I’ve seen tonight.  Other than that I’m feeling really old! 
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,761
    Chappell Roan
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    Tuned in for about five minutes and actually saw Khruangbin playing! Then found out they were nominated for best new artist? They've been around for quite some time....uh
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  • danlee1095
    danlee1095 Posts: 1,316
    Besides Jeff anyone know if the rest of the band was in attendance?
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  • kramer73
    kramer73 Posts: 2,636
    vedpunk said:
    The Grammys are a joke. 
    Always the go-to response for when your band doesn’t win an award.  
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,185
    Everyone stream Doechii today.
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 3,278
    My favorite is, "Who is that? / Never heard of them..." like it's a dig against the artist(s) because those people don't keep up with music past a certain point in time. 😄
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  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 965
    kramer73 said:
    vedpunk said:
    The Grammys are a joke. 
    Always the go-to response for when your band doesn’t win an award.  
    Still a joke.
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,526
    Beatles & Rolling Stones win the "rock" awards. Ok, you do you Grammys.
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  • RS65573
    RS65573 Posts: 2,500
    It might be even cooler to lose to the Beatles and Stones than to win. Pretty epic.
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,526
    RS65573 said:
    It might be even cooler to lose to the Beatles and Stones than to win. Pretty epic.
    Stones' album is a joke (sorry that's how I feel - yeah I listened to it).

    Beatles song is, what, by AI?

    I just can't imagine what idiots they have voting on this.
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