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hedavehedave Posts: 201
edited February 2010 in The Porch
I'm curious! By what process are the bands and artists nominated? Last night, U2, Green Day and AC/DC were nominated. AC/DC? really? WTF! Janis Joplin, Neil Young, Led Zeppelin, The Doors, The Who, just to name a few, have never been nominated, but Taylor Swift gets one. What the hell! What about The Decemberists, Wilco, The Killers and "Backspacer"?
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  • -decodified--decodified- mobile device Posts: 2,688
    The Grammys... suck!!!
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  • DeetroitBaasketballDeetroitBaasketball Posts: 379
    I believe there is a panel of sorts - and likely that they receive many gifts from record labels. So bands on smaller labels will never get mentioned. I suppose Pearl Jam isn't on a label - but you get the picture. You'll never see the Decemberists, Grizzly Bear, Animal Collective, etc. at the Grammy's until the become "mainstream".

    It has nothing to do with the music itself. Everyone (over 17-18) knows that the Grammy's are a sham.
  • YetAnotherFiascoYetAnotherFiasco Posts: 158
    You're not correct about Neil Young never being nominated. He was nominated in 1989 for "This Note's For You," 2007 for "Prairie Wind" 2008 for "Looking for a Leader" and last year for "Chrome Dreams II."

    And he won last night for his box set.
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,044
    hedave wrote:
    I'm curious! By what process are the bands and artists nominated? Last night, U2, Green Day and AC/DC were nominated. AC/DC? really? WTF! Janis Joplin, Neil Young, Led Zeppelin, The Doors, The Who, just to name a few, have never been nominated, but Taylor Swift gets one. What the hell! What about The Decemberists, Wilco, The Killers and "Backspacer"?

    Backspacer wasn't eligible for this years Grammy's.
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,247
    all I know is that pink's ass stole the show

    the grammys are about pop music-which is dominated by R&B, rap, pop rock, and nowadays, country.

    its quantity over quality, for the most part
  • FenwayFaithfulFenwayFaithful Posts: 8,626
    Get_Right wrote:
    all I know is that pink's ass stole the show
    +1
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,627
    hedave wrote:
    I'm curious! By what process are the bands and artists nominated? Last night, U2, Green Day and AC/DC were nominated. AC/DC? really? WTF! Janis Joplin, Neil Young, Led Zeppelin, The Doors, The Who, just to name a few, have never been nominated, but Taylor Swift gets one. What the hell! What about The Decemberists, Wilco, The Killers and "Backspacer"?

    "Backspacer" was not eligible for this year's Grammys. Released too late.

    Wilco has been nominated multiple times, and won.

    Voting is by members of the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences.
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  • dreamweaverdreamweaver New York Posts: 720
    You gotta take it with a grain of salt.. I actually don't hate on the grammy's. If it weren't for the grammy's, well there probably wouldnt be a Pearl Jam we all know. If you can understand that. There is some great big cheesyness that goes along with it, but its all in a good time and for tv ratings and SALES. and Taylor Swift sells. She's an all around talent. If you can't admit that, your just wasting your time.
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    Ya, don't hate the grammys, just most of the music on them. I do not think any music that appeals to adults will be on the Grammys for most part, I was surprised PJ's Fixer even got nominated. My daughter 12 and wife watched them, I told them come get me when somebody plays some music and not some elaborate stage show with lipcinking! Can not believe some moron's compared Elton John to Lady Gagme! Enough said on this non-issue for real music fans!
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  • lockedlocked Boston Posts: 4,039
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHEYs0CM ... L&index=68

    watch and listen..

    Eddie is 100% correct..

    Not to bash other awards... Just the Grammy's... IMO
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  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,931
    NARAS votes, there's no bribes/payola. Even if there was bribery, there's too many members of NARAS to flip the majority. All it takes is to have a job in the audio industry and to pay your dues (i think there's one tiered fee to become a member and another (more expensive) tiered fee to be a voting member.

    The voting is based on majority rule rather than a judgement panel, use some common sense and you would be able to tell that indie artists don't stand a chance versus popular artists since the majority of the people aren't going to know the indie artist.

    One problem with the voting process is that you have to vote on every section of the ballot whether you're knowledgable of the person's body of work or not, so when people come across a portion that isn't of interest to them they just vote for whoever they've heard of which is usually the biggest name on the ballot.
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    Eddie is 100% correct..

    Not to bash other awards... Just the Grammy's... IMO[/quote]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHEYs0CM ... L&index=68

    again , watch listen and learn..
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,044
    Nominations are announced tomorrow morning. Do our guys get shutout again? They deserve more than one or 2. Also hoping they get one of the main categories. But that's a long shot
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,044
    Nominated for Best Rock Album so far. Hopefully more to come
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  • spankyMPspankyMP NY to NC to NH Posts: 1,957
    igotid88 said:
    Nominated for Best Rock Album so far. Hopefully more to come
    Nice, well deserved!
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  • RiotAct10RiotAct10 Ohio Posts: 1,632
    Best Rock Performance
    The Beatles - Now and Then
    The Black Keys - Beautiful People (Stay High)
    Green Day - The American Dream Is Killing Me
    Idles - Gift Horse
    Pearl Jam - Dark Matter
    St. Vincent - Broken Man

    Best Rock Song
    The Black Keys - Beautiful People (Stay High)
    Green Day - Dilemma
    Idles - Gift Horse
    Pearl Jam - Dark Matter
    St. Vincent - Broken Man

    Best Rock Album
    The Black Crowes - Happiness Bastards
    Fontaines D.C. - Romance
    Green Day - Saviors
    Idles - Tangk
    Jack White - No Name
    Pearl Jam - Dark Matter
    The Rolling Stones - Hackney Diamonds

    words seem so out of place.

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    RiotAct10 said:
    Best Rock Performance
    The Beatles - Now and Then
    The Black Keys - Beautiful People (Stay High)
    Green Day - The American Dream Is Killing Me
    Idles - Gift Horse
    Pearl Jam - Dark Matter
    St. Vincent - Broken Man

    Best Rock Song
    The Black Keys - Beautiful People (Stay High)
    Green Day - Dilemma
    Idles - Gift Horse
    Pearl Jam - Dark Matter
    St. Vincent - Broken Man

    Best Rock Album
    The Black Crowes - Happiness Bastards
    Fontaines D.C. - Romance
    Green Day - Saviors
    Idles - Tangk
    Jack White - No Name
    Pearl Jam - Dark Matter
    The Rolling Stones - Hackney Diamonds

    Great but I was hoping they would get into the main categories 
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,044
    Wreckage not getting a nomination is criminal 
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,627
    edited November 8
    And Earl Jam by Tony Trischka was nominated for Best Bluegrass Album.

    I agree with igotid about "Wreckage," but I suspect the label pushed "Dark Matter." Grammy nominations are generally pretty lazy. I dig the "new" Beatles song, but Record of the Year? And I love Taylor Swift, but "Fortnight" as the song from Tortured Poets that gets Record and Song nominations? It's like, this was the lead single from the year's biggest album and it hit number one, so let's mail in the nominations for it.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,044
    BF25394 said:
    And Earl Jam by Tony Trischka was nominated for Best Bluegrass Album.

    I agree with igotid about "Wreckage," but I suspect the label pushed "Dark Matter."
    Earl Jam will probably win and the losing streak will probably continue. I'm not counting the Album packaging grammy
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  • bobasfeetbobasfeet Posts: 1,149
    The album deserves to be nominated. Good to see The Crowes on there as well. That may be the best Jack White solo record ever too.
  • mr bunglemr bungle Posts: 1,358
    I haven't watched the Grammys in a long time.  Do they show the Rock categories on the telecast?
  • kaw753kaw753 Posts: 865
    Do they still automatically give the Best Rap grammy to Will Smith every year?

    Big year for Fontaines D.C.. That new song on alt-nation Favourite is excellent.
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,044
    mr bungle said:
    I haven't watched the Grammys in a long time.  Do they show the Rock categories on the telecast?
    No. The pre-show 
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  • mr bunglemr bungle Posts: 1,358
    igotid88 said:
    mr bungle said:
    I haven't watched the Grammys in a long time.  Do they show the Rock categories on the telecast?
    No. The pre-show 
    Thanks!  Hopefully there will be a live stream or something.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    Earl Jam?

    Is that a joke?
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    igotid88 said:
    mr bungle said:
    I haven't watched the Grammys in a long time.  Do they show the Rock categories on the telecast?
    No. The pre-show 
    What a fucking joke. 

    Be cool to win....but who fucking cares? 
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,044
    edited November 8
    mr bungle said:
    igotid88 said:
    mr bungle said:
    I haven't watched the Grammys in a long time.  Do they show the Rock categories on the telecast?
    No. The pre-show 
    Thanks!  Hopefully there will be a live stream or something.
    Yea they always stream it on YouTube 

    https://youtu.be/BXjoYHQqBlA?si=YkX7LB5wAOBjAlzC
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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,580
    I used to be a member of the Recording Academy.  I was able to submit one of my former clients for nomination consideration.  The artist ended up winning a Grammy that year! (Due to an NDA, I can't name the client, but it is not a rock act).

    A few years ago, the academy started purging members who did not handle enough music clients, so I wasn't allowed to renew my membership.

    The Grammy show used to have some great performances, so it was fun to attend.

    Now, it is very different, with very few / almost no rock acts performing.
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