I used to be a member of the Recording Academy. I was able to submit one of my former clients for nomination consideration. The artist ended up winning a Grammy that year! (Due to an NDA, I can't name the client, but it is not a rock act).
A few years ago, the academy started purging members who did not handle enough music clients, so I wasn't allowed to renew my membership.
The Grammy show used to have some great performances, so it was fun to attend.
Now, it is very different, with very few / almost no rock acts performing.
There's usually at least one rock performance, often combining a newer artist with a legacy artist. Last year, you had U2 doing "Atomic City" from Sphere, Joni Mitchell and friends doing "Both Sides Now," and Billy Joel doing two songs, his new one and "You May Be Right." Olivia Rodrigo also performed. She is a pop artist but most of her songs are basically alt-rock. And they had the Tracy Chapman/Luke Combs duet on "Fast Car."
The Grammys have had a lot of great performances in recent years, albeit fewer of them are rock performances. For several years now, the show has deemphasized the awards in favor of performance.
Whether the rock album award gets handed out on the telecast varies from year to year. It likely depends on who's performing on the show.
What does ‘best rock performance’ mean? What performance is that for?
For the song "Dark Matter" as it appears on the album.
How does this work? How is it different to the song category? e.g. you could have a bad song that is a good performance or vice versa? Just not sure how you judge a performance on an album
What does ‘best rock performance’ mean? What performance is that for?
For the song "Dark Matter" as it appears on the album.
How does this work? How is it different to the song category? e.g. you could have a bad song that is a good performance or vice versa? Just not sure how you judge a performance on an album
Grammy for best song is given to the songwriters.
Grammy for best performance goes to everyone involved with the song.
It gets blurry when entire bands collaborate towards their own songs, but if Dark Matter was nominated and won best song, Andrew Watt would win in addition to all the band.
Or for example, if only Jeff Ament wrote the song Dark Matter, only he would win rather than Pearl Jam collectively.
What does ‘best rock performance’ mean? What performance is that for?
For the song "Dark Matter" as it appears on the album.
How does this work? How is it different to the song category? e.g. you could have a bad song that is a good performance or vice versa? Just not sure how you judge a performance on an album
Think of it as if it is "Rock Record of the Year."
Taking a step back, Song of the Year is an all-genre award for songwriting. It considers the song as it is composed, not as it is recorded. Record of the Year is an all-genre award for the overall production. It considers the recording itself. Best Rock Performance is a genre-specific award that you can think of as the equivalent of Rock Record of the Year-- an award for the overall production and recording as opposed to the songwriting. Best Rock Song is the genre-specific analog to Song of the Year.
To make matters more confusing, "Record" in all of these contexts is referring to a song, not an album, even though "record" is more commonly used today to refer to an album than a song.
What does ‘best rock performance’ mean? What performance is that for?
I believe 'best rock/fill in the blank genre performance' goes to the band or act literally performing the song.
'Record of the year' is for the songwriter/songwriters of the song. which in some cases and often in pop, is not necessarily the same as the performer.
I THINK that is the difference. mokeywrench covered this already, my bad
What does ‘best rock performance’ mean? What performance is that for?
I believe 'best rock/fill in the blank genre performance' goes to the band or act literally performing the song.
'Record of the year' is for the songwriter/songwriters of the song. which in some cases and often in pop, is not necessarily the same as the performer.
I THINK that is the difference. mokeywrench covered this already, my bad
Record of the year goes to the performers. Song of the year goes to the songwriter
Ya, don't hate the grammys, just most of the music on them. I do not think any music that appeals to adults will be on the Grammys for most part, I was surprised PJ's Fixer even got nominated. My daughter 12 and wife watched them, I told them come get me when somebody plays some music and not some elaborate stage show with lipcinking! Can not believe some moron's compared Elton John to Lady Gagme! Enough said on this non-issue for real music fans!
I don't think you are that familiar with who has actually been nominated for Grammys. I'm not sure what you mean by "music that appeals to adults," but Jon Batiste won Album of the Year three years ago and was nominated again last year. Tony Bennett was nominated a couple of years ago. These are not artists who are big with the teen set, and there are plenty of other examples. Brandi Carlile, Kendrick Lamar, Janelle Monae, Coldplay, Boygenius, SZA, ABBA (!)-- these are all recent Album of the Year nominees who are not relying on teen listeners.
The other point is that artists that you probably think of as "not appealing to adults"-- like Taylor Swift, Billie Eilish and others-- are actually very popular among adults. Don't fall into the trap of thinking that anything that is popular is only popular with young people. Taylor Swift has been putting out albums for almost 20 years. Any teen fans she had when she released her first blockbuster album in 2008 are well into adulthood now. I'm a 49-year-old dude who is a fan, and I know plenty of other folks in their 30s and 40s who are also fans of Swift, Eilish, etc. I have a 45-year-old female friend who is such a Chappell Roan fan that she dressed as her for Halloween last week.
"Dark Matter" is one hell of a rock album. I'd love to see PJ get recognized for their efforts in creating it. It'd be a nice follow-up to Matt Cameron's recognition this week, too.
"Dark Matter" is one hell of a rock album. I'd love to see PJ get recognized for their efforts in creating it. It'd be a nice follow-up to Matt Cameron's recognition this week, too.
"Dark Matter" is one hell of a rock album. I'd love to see PJ get recognized for their efforts in creating it. It'd be a nice follow-up to Matt Cameron's recognition this week, too.
Pearl Jam lose to The Beatles for Rock Performance
The Beatles winning a Grammy in 2025 is pretty ridiculous. Just goes to show you people get stupid when that band is brought up. Not to mention should be in the pop category not rock..
Awards shows typically don’t interest me but it’s kind of cool they’re nominated at this stage of their career.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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The Grammys have had a lot of great performances in recent years, albeit fewer of them are rock performances. For several years now, the show has deemphasized the awards in favor of performance.
Whether the rock album award gets handed out on the telecast varies from year to year. It likely depends on who's performing on the show.
Grammy for best performance goes to everyone involved with the song.
It gets blurry when entire bands collaborate towards their own songs, but if Dark Matter was nominated and won best song, Andrew Watt would win in addition to all the band.
Or for example, if only Jeff Ament wrote the song Dark Matter, only he would win rather than Pearl Jam collectively.
Taking a step back, Song of the Year is an all-genre award for songwriting. It considers the song as it is composed, not as it is recorded. Record of the Year is an all-genre award for the overall production. It considers the recording itself. Best Rock Performance is a genre-specific award that you can think of as the equivalent of Rock Record of the Year-- an award for the overall production and recording as opposed to the songwriting. Best Rock Song is the genre-specific analog to Song of the Year.
To make matters more confusing, "Record" in all of these contexts is referring to a song, not an album, even though "record" is more commonly used today to refer to an album than a song.
'Record of the year' is for the songwriter/songwriters of the song. which in some cases and often in pop, is not necessarily the same as the performer.
I THINK that is the difference. mokeywrench covered this already, my bad
The other point is that artists that you probably think of as "not appealing to adults"-- like Taylor Swift, Billie Eilish and others-- are actually very popular among adults. Don't fall into the trap of thinking that anything that is popular is only popular with young people. Taylor Swift has been putting out albums for almost 20 years. Any teen fans she had when she released her first blockbuster album in 2008 are well into adulthood now. I'm a 49-year-old dude who is a fan, and I know plenty of other folks in their 30s and 40s who are also fans of Swift, Eilish, etc. I have a 45-year-old female friend who is such a Chappell Roan fan that she dressed as her for Halloween last week.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2024/11/22/pearl-jams-grammy-nominated-album-is-back-in-a-major-way/
Same.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023