eagles fan hate andy's negative pass-run ratio and no championships...and the top candidate is a guy in college who runs a spread offense and whose team has choked two years in a row just shy of getting to the title game :fp:
david shaw is interesting due to having NFL assistant experience.
i'd rather have Tom O'Brien than any of those other college coaches.
I'm sorry but that's a ridiculous response to that post. Andy Reid is probably better than most of those guys but sometimes change is good.
of course Andy should be fired. not disputing that. just commenting on some of those names. any of those get you excited? love to hear your thoughts than just taking a shot at me.
what are your thoughts? who would you like? i think so far you have only said jon gruden and now, tom obrien apparently....did you mean bill? or are you really referring to nc state's recently fired coach?
Bryce looked good. Boykin fumbles his longest return of the year. Babin and Dunlap still suck. Vick looked like a dwarf next to Newton at the end of the game. Mike Patterson a DT in his second game back from brain surgery is the only guy that could sack Newton? Good for him but what the fuck. Cam Newton is one of the worst QB's I've ever seen. He kind of reminds me of a guy that played for the Falcons before he got in some trouble with dogs.
Did anyone notice a play in which Newton ran for a couple yards and dove head first to the ground with Coleman very close. When Vick does it a defender drives his helmet into his back. When the opposing QB does it, we tap his shoulder. What the fuck?
Our climb to the bottom is working. What team do we have to pass next for a better pick?
we got the jags and chiefs in our sights now...don't think we can do much better than the 3rd pick at this point though.
so I am thinking that firing the defensive coordinator a few weeks back didn't really help at all. actually I don't think it would be a stretch to say it has made things worse.
what are your thoughts? who would you like? i think so far you have only said jon gruden and now, tom obrien apparently....did you mean bill? or are you really referring to nc state's recently fired coach?
oh duh, yes I meant Bill O'Brien. I think he did a great job at Penn State this year and with experience in the NFL I think if he leaves Penn State (and i think he should) he is going to be a real good NFL coach. Was very impressed with him this year as a leader and he even made McGloin look like a decent QB. If he goes to the NFL someone will get a steal there.
As you said earlier it's pretty hard to predict what nfl assistants can do so hard for me to comment on any of those guys. i am not a big fan of hiring a guy with no head coaching experience at any level.
of the college guys that were listed i'm not all that impressed other than maybe Shaw at Stanford and that's because he has NFL assistant experience.
i don't understand why the NFL would be attracted to Chip Kelly at Oregon. Does what he do at Oregon translate into the NFL? I really don't see it. And i also see a guy that is head of a program that is, let's just say, using some advantages, is in an average league, and has coughed up national title aspirations two years in a row. in my opinion there are better coaches available than Chip Kelly. Hell even Saban is a better candidate in my mind although he would probably implode with the media and fans in Philly.
i don't understand why the NFL would be attracted to Chip Kelly at Oregon. Does what he do at Oregon translate into the NFL? I really don't see it. And i also see a guy that is head of a program that is, let's just say, using some advantages, is in an average league, and has coughed up national title aspirations two years in a row. in my opinion there are better coaches available than Chip Kelly. Hell even Saban is a better candidate in my mind although he would probably implode with the media and fans in Philly.
I don't necessarily agree, but they say he does a lot with less than 5-Star talent like the talent that routinely goes to alabama, usc, etc. oregon doesn't send a lot of guys to the NFL, but lately they are always in the BCS mix....
If I had known then what I know now...
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what are your thoughts? who would you like? i think so far you have only said jon gruden and now, tom obrien apparently....did you mean bill? or are you really referring to nc state's recently fired coach?
oh duh, yes I meant Bill O'Brien. I think he did a great job at Penn State this year and with experience in the NFL I think if he leaves Penn State (and i think he should) he is going to be a real good NFL coach. Was very impressed with him this year as a leader and he even made McGloin look like a decent QB. If he goes to the NFL someone will get a steal there.
As you said earlier it's pretty hard to predict what nfl assistants can do so hard for me to comment on any of those guys. i am not a big fan of hiring a guy with no head coaching experience at any level.
of the college guys that were listed i'm not all that impressed other than maybe Shaw at Stanford and that's because he has NFL assistant experience.
i don't understand why the NFL would be attracted to Chip Kelly at Oregon. Does what he do at Oregon translate into the NFL? I really don't see it. And i also see a guy that is head of a program that is, let's just say, using some advantages, is in an average league, and has coughed up national title aspirations two years in a row. in my opinion there are better coaches available than Chip Kelly. Hell even Saban is a better candidate in my mind although he would probably implode with the media and fans in Philly.
but you did comment on those guys though. you dismissed pretty much the entire list just because you don't know who they are. like i said, the league is full of success stories of ilttle known assistants with no head coaching experience. andy reid is one of them. both of lurie's hires have been of this variety so you might want to research them a little bit.
i'm not exactly sold on chip kelly either. not sure a college coach is the way to go. saban failed miserably alredy in the nfl. but i am keeping an open mind to every candidate.
but you did comment on those guys though. you dismissed pretty much the entire list just because you don't know who they are. like i said, the league is full of success stories of ilttle known assistants with no head coaching experience. andy reid is one of them. both of lurie's hires have been of this variety so you might want to research them a little bit.
i'm not exactly sold on chip kelly either. not sure a college coach is the way to go. saban failed miserably alredy in the nfl. but i am keeping an open mind to every candidate.
please god don't tell me you don't consider ray rhodes a successful hire as a little known assistant. he was under .500 as a coach. for a guy who has ripped andy reid unmercifully and even called him an idiot today how the f can you consider ray rhodes a successful hire? you are fn all over the place man.
I haven't kept up with this thread - couple things...
Has anyone wondered where Namdi ranks amongst the worst Philly free agent signings?
Is the national media gonna give up telling us what a great coach Andy Reid is and how we are all ungrateful idiots? It's the McNabb ending all over again.
I don't know much about Chip Kelly or Oregon, but when I watch them they always seem to be doing things their own way and keeping the other team way off balance. So what if they can't get past some cheating SEC team in the last game. Everyone plays by the same rules in the NFL. Hopefully he wouldn't have us wearing crazy uniforms that change every game. Otherwise that pick wouldn't bother me at all.
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but you did comment on those guys though. you dismissed pretty much the entire list just because you don't know who they are. like i said, the league is full of success stories of ilttle known assistants with no head coaching experience. andy reid is one of them. both of lurie's hires have been of this variety so you might want to research them a little bit.
i'm not exactly sold on chip kelly either. not sure a college coach is the way to go. saban failed miserably alredy in the nfl. but i am keeping an open mind to every candidate.
please god don't tell me you don't consider ray rhodes a successful hire as a little known assistant. he was under .500 as a coach. for a guy who has ripped andy reid unmercifully and even called him an idiot today how the f can you consider ray rhodes a successful hire? you are fn all over the place man.
nope. you're not paying attention. i just said lurie's only 2 hire's were relatively unknown assistants so you might want to educate yourself on all the available candidtes and not dismiss them because you don't know who they are.
the league is filled with those kinds of hires having success. andy reid is a perfect example.
and it is idiotic to wait until your star running back is out with an injury to run the ball more.
but you did comment on those guys though. you dismissed pretty much the entire list just because you don't know who they are. like i said, the league is full of success stories of ilttle known assistants with no head coaching experience. andy reid is one of them. both of lurie's hires have been of this variety so you might want to research them a little bit.
i'm not exactly sold on chip kelly either. not sure a college coach is the way to go. saban failed miserably alredy in the nfl. but i am keeping an open mind to every candidate.
please god don't tell me you don't consider ray rhodes a successful hire as a little known assistant. he was under .500 as a coach. for a guy who has ripped andy reid unmercifully and even called him an idiot today how the f can you consider ray rhodes a successful hire? you are fn all over the place man.
nope. you're not paying attention. i just said lurie's only 2 hire's were relatively unknown assistants so you might want to educate yourself on all the available candidtes and not dismiss them because you don't know who they are.
the league is filled with those kinds of hires having success. andy reid is a perfect example.
and it is idiotic to wait until your star running back is out with an injury to run the ball more.
the percentage of assisants who fail is much higher than those who succeed. for every andy reid there are 5 like steve spagnuolo, todd haley, ron rivera, brad childress, and every coach the raiders have trotted out for the past 8 years. hell even your hero bellicheck failed miserably in his 1st attempt.
wait i thought andy wasn't successful because he hasn't won a champhionship and has been mediocre for 8 years? now you consider mediocrity successful? again you all over the place.
can you also explain to me how running the ball sucessfully last night helped the passing game? that has been your argument for years...that running the ball would somehow help the passing game.
was bryz a free agent signing? if so he will make the list someday if the NHL ever comes back. love reading how he his 3rd string for his team in russia these days.
was bryz a free agent signing? if so he will make the list someday if the NHL ever comes back. love reading how he his 3rd string for his team in russia these days.
Let's not forget Danny Tartabull.
I think officially we traded for Gratton???
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
please god don't tell me you don't consider ray rhodes a successful hire as a little known assistant. he was under .500 as a coach. for a guy who has ripped andy reid unmercifully and even called him an idiot today how the f can you consider ray rhodes a successful hire? you are fn all over the place man.
nope. you're not paying attention. i just said lurie's only 2 hire's were relatively unknown assistants so you might want to educate yourself on all the available candidtes and not dismiss them because you don't know who they are.
the league is filled with those kinds of hires having success. andy reid is a perfect example.
and it is idiotic to wait until your star running back is out with an injury to run the ball more.
the percentage of assisants who fail is much higher than those who succeed. for every andy reid there are 5 like steve spagnuolo, todd haley, ron rivera, brad childress, and every coach the raiders have trotted out for the past 8 years. hell even your hero bellicheck failed miserably in his 1st attempt.
wait i thought andy wasn't successful because he hasn't won a champhionship and has been mediocre for 8 years? now you consider mediocrity successful? again you all over the place.
can you also explain to me how running the ball sucessfully last night helped the passing game? that has been your argument for years...that running the ball would somehow help the passing game.
i don't even know what you're talking about now. you can say the same thing about coaches with experience and coaches out of college...are you under the assumption that there is one magic formula for hiring a coach or something? :? again--you're only dismissing that list becuase you don't know who they are (which isn't surprising given how little you know about the sport in general).
andy reid had a very succesful run for the first half of his tenure. the 2nd half has been mediocre. he stayed too long. i've been saying this for years now. at this point it's pretty much common knowledge. what is different today? you are not making sense again.
did you notice how the game was close last night instead of the eagles getting crushed like the previous 4 games while passing way too much? it's not surprising that foles played better (still not good obviously) than his previous 2 outings. just idiotic that andy reid waited until after his star running back gets injured to run more.
You know, I'm pretty sure I slept through the whole 4th quarter, even though the game had huge implications for my FFL team. This is one of the worst Phila sports teams I can remember.
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10/22/13- Philly, PA
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5/2/16- NYC
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9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
We gather here to pay our last respects to the worst idea in Philadelphia sports history since Gene Mauch pitched Jim Bunning and Chris Short on two days' rest.
The wide nine, in theory and even occasionally in execution, can be an effective way to stop an NFL offense. But Andy Reid's decision to base his entire defense on Jim Washburn's defensive line scheme and then expect an unqualified coordinator to run it with the wrong personnel was a failure of epic proportions.
There are many reasons the Eagles are 3-8 and Reid is a five-game slog from being fired. But the team's unraveling over the last two seasons can be traced back to his decision to hire Washburn away from the Titans and then prop up offensive line coach Juan Castillo as the coordinator responsible for making the dang thing look like an NFL defense.
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what are your thoughts? who would you like? i think so far you have only said jon gruden and now, tom obrien apparently....did you mean bill? or are you really referring to nc state's recently fired coach?
we got the jags and chiefs in our sights now...don't think we can do much better than the 3rd pick at this point though.
the jets are just as bad, if not worse.
you should stick to the national hockey league...if they ever play again.
can't be much worse
you've pretty much hit rock bottom when your "super fan" quits
the jets
i think they have been blown out in 6 games this year. tebow time!
oh duh, yes I meant Bill O'Brien. I think he did a great job at Penn State this year and with experience in the NFL I think if he leaves Penn State (and i think he should) he is going to be a real good NFL coach. Was very impressed with him this year as a leader and he even made McGloin look like a decent QB. If he goes to the NFL someone will get a steal there.
As you said earlier it's pretty hard to predict what nfl assistants can do so hard for me to comment on any of those guys. i am not a big fan of hiring a guy with no head coaching experience at any level.
of the college guys that were listed i'm not all that impressed other than maybe Shaw at Stanford and that's because he has NFL assistant experience.
i don't understand why the NFL would be attracted to Chip Kelly at Oregon. Does what he do at Oregon translate into the NFL? I really don't see it. And i also see a guy that is head of a program that is, let's just say, using some advantages, is in an average league, and has coughed up national title aspirations two years in a row. in my opinion there are better coaches available than Chip Kelly. Hell even Saban is a better candidate in my mind although he would probably implode with the media and fans in Philly.
I don't necessarily agree, but they say he does a lot with less than 5-Star talent like the talent that routinely goes to alabama, usc, etc. oregon doesn't send a lot of guys to the NFL, but lately they are always in the BCS mix....
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Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
but you did comment on those guys though. you dismissed pretty much the entire list just because you don't know who they are.
i'm not exactly sold on chip kelly either. not sure a college coach is the way to go. saban failed miserably alredy in the nfl. but i am keeping an open mind to every candidate.
please god don't tell me you don't consider ray rhodes a successful hire as a little known assistant. he was under .500 as a coach. for a guy who has ripped andy reid unmercifully and even called him an idiot today how the f can you consider ray rhodes a successful hire? you are fn all over the place man.
Has anyone wondered where Namdi ranks amongst the worst Philly free agent signings?
Is the national media gonna give up telling us what a great coach Andy Reid is and how we are all ungrateful idiots? It's the McNabb ending all over again.
I don't know much about Chip Kelly or Oregon, but when I watch them they always seem to be doing things their own way and keeping the other team way off balance. So what if they can't get past some cheating SEC team in the last game. Everyone plays by the same rules in the NFL. Hopefully he wouldn't have us wearing crazy uniforms that change every game. Otherwise that pick wouldn't bother me at all.
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
nope. you're not paying attention. i just said lurie's only 2 hire's were relatively unknown assistants so you might want to educate yourself on all the available candidtes and not dismiss them because you don't know who they are.
the league is filled with those kinds of hires having success. andy reid is a perfect example.
and it is idiotic to wait until your star running back is out with an injury to run the ball more.
the percentage of assisants who fail is much higher than those who succeed. for every andy reid there are 5 like steve spagnuolo, todd haley, ron rivera, brad childress, and every coach the raiders have trotted out for the past 8 years. hell even your hero bellicheck failed miserably in his 1st attempt.
wait i thought andy wasn't successful because he hasn't won a champhionship and has been mediocre for 8 years? now you consider mediocrity successful? again you all over the place.
can you also explain to me how running the ball sucessfully last night helped the passing game? that has been your argument for years...that running the ball would somehow help the passing game.
off the top of my head my picks would be:
worst - lance parrish
2nd worst - nnamdi
3rd - chris gratton
was bryz a free agent signing? if so he will make the list someday if the NHL ever comes back. love reading how he his 3rd string for his team in russia these days.
Let's not forget Danny Tartabull.
I think officially we traded for Gratton???
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Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
i don't even know what you're talking about now. you can say the same thing about coaches with experience and coaches out of college...are you under the assumption that there is one magic formula for hiring a coach or something? :? again--you're only dismissing that list becuase you don't know who they are (which isn't surprising given how little you know about the sport in general).
andy reid had a very succesful run for the first half of his tenure. the 2nd half has been mediocre. he stayed too long. i've been saying this for years now. at this point it's pretty much common knowledge. what is different today? you are not making sense again.
did you notice how the game was close last night instead of the eagles getting crushed like the previous 4 games while passing way too much? it's not surprising that foles played better (still not good obviously) than his previous 2 outings. just idiotic that andy reid waited until after his star running back gets injured to run more.
http://www.phillymag.com/eagles/
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you guys are going into full on melt down mode.
a few articles below that one: Desean Jackson out for the year.
wow, maybe I culd go down there and try out
yeah i saw that. they should just keep mccoy and vick out all year too...
happy to see babin get cut. never liked him.
one trick pony who about 1.5 good years. seemed like kind of a dick to. never was a fan of his.
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
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just start from scratch
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5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eag ... _door.html
We gather here to pay our last respects to the worst idea in Philadelphia sports history since Gene Mauch pitched Jim Bunning and Chris Short on two days' rest.
The wide nine, in theory and even occasionally in execution, can be an effective way to stop an NFL offense. But Andy Reid's decision to base his entire defense on Jim Washburn's defensive line scheme and then expect an unqualified coordinator to run it with the wrong personnel was a failure of epic proportions.
There are many reasons the Eagles are 3-8 and Reid is a five-game slog from being fired. But the team's unraveling over the last two seasons can be traced back to his decision to hire Washburn away from the Titans and then prop up offensive line coach Juan Castillo as the coordinator responsible for making the dang thing look like an NFL defense.