THE PHILADELPHIA EAGLES...

The Fixer

pjhawks wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

THIS. Yes, yes, and yes. And yes again.

hey guys how is that albert haynesworth signing working out so far for the pats? i know you guys were so gung ho on him. can't see him on any charts so far. can you let me know if he has actually suited up for a practice or two yet? was just wondering since i know how smart you guys are and all and i haven't really paid attention to the pats yet.

If you watched the game you would have seen miami shied away from running the ball (their strength) inside the 5 because they couldn't run between the tackles with wilfork and haynesworth in the game. the Pats tackles dominated that game and took miami's strength away.

The sad part is that you probably did watch the game and you still failed to realize all of this. Some things never change.

BTW, the Pats were a lock. Nice start to the gambling season for this guy

The Juggler

pjhawks wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

can you name one "unstoppable" passing offense in the history of the nfl that threw the ball consistently over 80% of the time through an entire season? (and please don't reference one of your madden seasons from back in the day )

i jut want to know what you are basing this number on.

thanks.

nope not off hand but again you are twisting my words a bit. i said in a perfect situation i want to throw it 80% of the time. .

oh okay. sorry for catching you off guard then. take as much time as you need. is the weekend enough? utilize the world wide web. there is a lot of information out there.

good luck. :thumbup:

pjhawks wrote:

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absolutely 80% i want to call pass plays and honestly that's me being conservative

The Juggler

The Fixer wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

THIS. Yes, yes, and yes. And yes again.

hey guys how is that albert haynesworth signing working out so far for the pats? i know you guys were so gung ho on him. can't see him on any charts so far. can you let me know if he has actually suited up for a practice or two yet? was just wondering since i know how smart you guys are and all and i haven't really paid attention to the pats yet.

If you watched the game you would have seen miami shied away from running the ball (their strength) inside the 5 because they couldn't run between the tackles with wilfork and haynesworth in the game. the Pats tackles dominated that game and took miami's strength away.

The sad part is that you probably did watch the game and you still failed to realize all of this. Some things never change.

BTW, the Pats were a lock. Nice start to the gambling season for this guy

me too welcome back

by the way, it's pretty obvious from his post that he did not watch the game. he's looking for him on "charts" or something....

pjhawks

The Juggler wrote:

by the way, it's pretty obvious from his post that he did not watch the game. he's looking for him on "charts" or something....

i did not watch the pats-miami game. the pats throw the ball too much and it's not real football if you dont run the ball up the middle 50% of the time.

The Juggler

pjhawks wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

by the way, it's pretty obvious from his post that he did not watch the game. he's looking for him on "charts" or something....

i did not watch the pats-miami game. the pats throw the ball too much and it's not real football if you dont run the ball up the middle 50% of the time.

actually they only threw the ball 52% of the time last year.


your posts are hillarious. do your best to get back to me on that one team in nfl history who had success throwing over 80% of the time though.

pjhawks

The Juggler wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

by the way, it's pretty obvious from his post that he did not watch the game. he's looking for him on "charts" or something....

i did not watch the pats-miami game. the pats throw the ball too much and it's not real football if you dont run the ball up the middle 50% of the time.

well, they threw the ball 52% of the time last year.


your posts are hillarious. do your best to get back to me on that one team in nfl history who had success throwing over 80% of the time though.

like mark mcgwire i don't look back. innovation juggler it's a good thing. without innovation you'd be using a typewriter and reading newspapers today.

and in all seriousness if you bought the PJ20 book check out my 'am i crazy thread' on the porch.

The Juggler

pjhawks wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

i did not watch the pats-miami game. the pats throw the ball too much and it's not real football if you dont run the ball up the middle 50% of the time.

well, they threw the ball 52% of the time last year.


your posts are hillarious. do your best to get back to me on that one team in nfl history who had success throwing over 80% of the time though.

like mark mcgwire i don't look back. innovation juggler it's a good thing. without innovation you'd be using a typewriter and reading newspapers today.

and in all seriousness if you bought the PJ20 book check out my 'am i crazy thread' on the porch.

i honestly think my mom knows more about sports than you do.

haven't bought the book yet.

pjhawks

The Juggler wrote:

i honestly think my mom knows more about sports than you do.

haven't bought the book yet.

you are an amazing man juggler. you somehow profess to know things about me by a few hundred posts on a message board. but maybe open your mind to new and innovative ways of doing things. you've never been able to dispute to me that taken as individual non-related plays a pass play is almost always a better option than a running play. i just don't believe in the notion that a play in the 1st quarter has any influence on a play later in the game. i'm a gambler jugger and in craps and poker the previous rolls and hands have 0% influence on how the dice and cards are going to come out on the next or any other hand. other than down and distance i believe the same to be true about football plays.

The Juggler

pjhawks wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

i honestly think my mom knows more about sports than you do.

haven't bought the book yet.

you are an amazing man juggler. you somehow profess to know things about me by a few hundred posts on a message board. but maybe open your mind to new and innovative ways of doing things. you've never been able to dispute to me that taken as individual non-related plays a pass play is almost always a better option than a running play. i just don't believe in the notion that a play in the 1st quarter has any influence on a play later in the game. i'm a gambler jugger and in craps and poker the previous rolls and hands have 0% influence on how the dice and cards are going to come out on the next or any other hand. other than down and distance i believe the same to be true about football plays.

a pass play will almost certainly gain a few more yards on average than a running play. it's not by as wide a margin as you might expect though. the better option point solely decides on the game situation. case in point: the cowboys opting to pass when they should have ran the ball late in the game against the jets. romo fumbled. jets recovered. jet's won a game they surely should have lost.

so a pass play is a lot more dangerous and risky than a run play. here is why it's stupid to want to pass a ball over 80% of the time (posted for the 2nd time since you clearly did not read or understand the first time):
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=482

now you're comparing football to craps. :?

the difference between you and me in this argument is i can give you multitudes of reasons and facts and examples of why throwing the ball 80% of the time is ridiculous. you just say things like how you're an "innovator" and a "gambler" and other nonsense like referencing one quarter of one game featuring 2 of the best qb's in the world. most of you're examples are even wrong too, as we saw with your patriots comment this morning. :roll:

take 2 of the most prolific passing offenses in the history of the game (see-i've done your homework for you): the run and shoot oilers threw the ball 67% of the time. the "air coryell" chargers threw the ball less than 65% of the time. both of those teams never won anything....both offenses were considered "innovative" at the time too.

bottom line: it's a passing league. that much is obvious to the most casual of fans.
but 80% passing is for video games.

The Juggler

a win today will be huge even if it's just week 2.....would mean 2-0 in conference and a win against a team we could be tied with at the end.

tough one though. falcons were embarrased last week. they're better than that.

they will probably blitz less than the rams did so vick may have more time. that could free up celek for some big catches.

concerned about our run defense. turner's a beast. young mathews will have his hands full.

i wanna see how chaney does against tony gonzalez. big test for him.


a loss isn't the end of the world. but starting 2-0 with the soft part of the schedule on tap before the bye would be fucking great.


GO. BIRDS.

eeriepadave

The Juggler wrote:

a win today will be huge even if it's just week 2.....would mean 2-0 in conference and a win against a team we could be tied with at the end.

tough one though. falcons were embarrased last week. they're better than that.

they will probably blitz less than the rams did so vick may have more time. that could free up celek for some big catches.

concerned about our run defense. turner's a beast. young mathews will have his hands full.

i wanna see how chaney does against tony gonzalez. big test for him.


a loss isn't the end of the world. but starting 2-0 with the soft part of the schedule on tap before the bye would be fucking great.


GO. BIRDS.

gonna be a close game. hope they win, but have my worries. I say 27-24 eagles.

81

i'm taking the birds in this one

The Juggler

81 wrote:

i'm taking the birds in this one

i see what you did there.

The Juggler

let's do this.

The Juggler

dunta robinson can go directly to hell. jesus christ...

cowboypjfan

That was dreamy...

The Juggler

loved the approach of the offense tonight. i think shady is the best player on this team. at least offensively. turnovers will kill you every time though.

vick...neck injury. fingers are crossed. kafka looked good...that happens a lot with backups when the d didn't prepare for them though.

i was concerend about the run defense and interested in how chaney looked against gonzalez. yeah, still concerned. lb's got pushed all over the place for the 2nd game in a row.....defense was bad in the redzone too.

this game is a perfect example of my beef with andy reid. guy's a good coach, no doubt. but he always has problems thinking on his feet, especially in tight situations. not sure why you don't throw the challenge flag on that interception that really wasn't in the 3rd. cost us 7 points. then at the end you blow a timeout when he should have known what he was going to call if 3rd down didn't pan out. those extra 10 seconds sure would have come in handy at the end there. you'd think in 13 years he would improve in these areas...

like i said this morning, 1-1 is not the end of the world (i had them 0-2 at this point). but blowing a big lead in the 4th quarter is distressing. really hope vick is okay.

entertaining game though.....soft part of the schedule heading into the bye is on deck.

also--offensive line is better than i expected.

lukin2006

81 wrote:

i'm taking the birds in this one

Great call :thumbup:

The Juggler

concussion for vick. fuck.

RW81233

and here comes september...we're 1-1 but we suck. honestly my personal favorite though is the fans for the team from Washington (insert your fave al pic here) who text me about how much everyone in the East sucks and that they are going to the Super Bowl. The best part with them is when they quit next week after they lose to the Cowboys on the road.