Leno going back to Tonight Show

The Juggler

norm wrote:

blackredyellow wrote:

I don't get the people thinking that Leno is doing this to screw over Conan... it's a pure ratings move by the network. It's not like Leno is saying "hey, I like 11:30 better, give me my show back".

Both Leno's and Conan's shows aren't working now (ratings-wise), so NBC is trying to fix it's fuckup and move Leno back to the slot that worked for so many years.

If Conan's show was kicking ass in the ratings, he wouldn't be moved for Leno, simple as that.

leno does not have to have this show...he has more than enough money and if he still wants a late night show, he can go elsewhere...he announced his 'retirement' from the tonight show 3 years ago and had conan on his show to announce conan as the new host of the tonight show


nbc deserves a lot of blame for this mess...especially their former coke head president of the network, ben silverman but in the end, this whole mess can be solved by leno simply walking away which apparently he won't do

i think russell dalripple shares some blame too....

mca47

The Jeagler wrote:

i think russell dalripple shares some blame too....

I hear he has a hot daughter with giant boobs.

rhcpjam1029

i feel really bad for conan. but most of all for jimmy fallon. i mean his show might not be fantastic, but hey, when conan first started out it took him some 6 years to get to the point where he is today.

and how can you say no to jimmy fallon? the guy looks like one of the most fun, down-to-earth guys there is on television today.

dcfaithful

The Jeagler wrote:

norm wrote:

blackredyellow wrote:

I don't get the people thinking that Leno is doing this to screw over Conan... it's a pure ratings move by the network. It's not like Leno is saying "hey, I like 11:30 better, give me my show back".

Both Leno's and Conan's shows aren't working now (ratings-wise), so NBC is trying to fix it's fuckup and move Leno back to the slot that worked for so many years.

If Conan's show was kicking ass in the ratings, he wouldn't be moved for Leno, simple as that.

leno does not have to have this show...he has more than enough money and if he still wants a late night show, he can go elsewhere...he announced his 'retirement' from the tonight show 3 years ago and had conan on his show to announce conan as the new host of the tonight show


nbc deserves a lot of blame for this mess...especially their former coke head president of the network, ben silverman but in the end, this whole mess can be solved by leno simply walking away which apparently he won't do

i think russell dalripple shares some blame too....

Not possible, he's been in the bathroom vomiting profusely.

norm

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chadwick

david letterman slaps the shit out of dorky jay leno and that doorknob conan o'brien.
letterman's funnier than both those clowns put together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJs2id-NfU4 4:00 on
howard stern... "i didn't like jay, i never liked jay, i can't stand jay"

funny shit

mca47

chadwick wrote:

david letterman slaps the shit out of dorky jay leno and that doorknob conan o'brien.
letterman's funnier than both those clowns put together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJs2id-NfU4 4:00 on
howard stern... "i didn't like jay, i never liked jay, i can't stand jay"

funny shit

Conan > Letterman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Leno

bootleg

Why is NBC so in love with Leno? They made the wrong choice years ago when they picked him over Letterman and they are making the wrong choice again keeping him. His comedy has always been lame and his new show was cringe worthy. The affiliates local news ratings are down because leno is such a bad lead in and I think this also affects conans ratings as well. I think he would have had much better ratings if leno never ruined the 10pm slot.

chadwick

remember when it was Leno who would stand in for Jonhy Carson when Carson was out for whatever reason he was out? Leno goes way back with the tonight show.

horrible, just horrible.

The Juggler

mca47 wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

i think russell dalripple shares some blame too....

I hear he has a hot daughter with giant boobs.

THANK YOU! THANK YOU!

Kilgore_Trout

NBC IS FUCKING STUPID IF THIS IS TRUE

CONAN DID MORE FOR THAT SHOW THAN LENO COULD EVER HOPE TO

on the brightside... falon and/or daily might lose their job(s)

fife

i am so sorry as i started another thread about this today without looking 1st. i think the end result is that when Dave retires late night is dead.

i hope that when Leno comes back NBC loses more viewers. i just would find it funny is Conan goes on Letterman the 1st night that Leno is back at 11:30. that would be great

Kilgore_Trout

conan should take the fox gig... dunno what it'll look like but he would probably have alot more freedom with material... theyd be willing to pump alot of money into it to get the show started... maybe PJ can play the premiere again?

sadly i could see him being like some 3rd party candidate when it comes to the ratings though... it'll probably only take away from daves audience... the tards that enjoy leno will keep following that ass clown

as a former simpsons and SNL writer the guys got plenty of street cred to get some talented people on board

i wanna see how this plays out

fife

Kilgore_Trout wrote:

conan should take the fox gig... dunno what it'll look like but he would probably have alot more freedom with material... theyd be willing to pump alot of money into it to get the show started... maybe PJ can play the premiere again?

sadly i could see him being like some 3rd party candidate when it comes to the ratings though... it'll probably only take away from daves audience... the tards that enjoy leno will keep following that ass clown

as a former simpsons and SNL writer the guys got plenty of street cred to get some talented people on board

i wanna see how this plays out

I think Conan will move to fox but i don't know if he will take Dave's viewers. i personally think that Dave likes Conan. i heard him say that he thought Conan was very funny. Dave a still still is the funniest person on late night with Conan being second and then john stewart 3rd. John will take Letterman place when Dave is gone.

i just don't know why Leno would want back to 11:30 considering that NBC didn't want him before and basically told Leno to retire what liek 5 years ago.

81

i'm suprised there is so much love for Conan. He's been brutal since moving to the tonight show. It's painful to watch him interview A list celebs. Leno does a nice job and is more personable and not a complete dork.

And if you look at the history, Leno was beating Letterman in the 11:30 time slot, where as Letterman is destroying Conan. NBC is smart to move Leno back into the tonight show slot and either move conan back to 12:30 or let him go to Fox.

mca47

So what the heck is Leno going to do in that 30 minute timeslot?

His incredibly non-funny monologue takes 30 mins itself. Would he still have guests/celebs?



This whole thing is retarded.

I think Conan should leave the network and do exactly what he wants elsewhere, though I think Conan would have too much class to give them the finger and leave.

We'll see.

Enkidu

All this makes me want to reread the Bill Carter book THE LATE SHIFT about the Letterman/Leno who will replace J. Carson. As I remember, it was really fucked up back then, too.

Who Princess

81 wrote:

i'm suprised there is so much love for Conan. He's been brutal since moving to the tonight show. It's painful to watch him interview A list celebs. Leno does a nice job and is more personable and not a complete dork.

And if you look at the history, Leno was beating Letterman in the 11:30 time slot, where as Letterman is destroying Conan. NBC is smart to move Leno back into the tonight show slot and either move conan back to 12:30 or let him go to Fox.

I remember reading an interview with Letterman right after Leno left the Tonight Show, saying he thought NBC should have kept Leno where he was since the show was a ratings success, something NBC didn't have too much of.

It's all about ratings. One of the big problems with the Tonight Show now isn't just that a lot of people don't get Conan's humor. It's that he has essentially been doing the show the same way as Leno did it and it doesn't work. He needs to stick with what worked for him on his previous show or somehow find his own groove. I'm not much for late night tv but when I've watched Conan lately it's been painful.

norm

Enkidu wrote:

All this makes me want to reread the Bill Carter book THE LATE SHIFT about the Letterman/Leno who will replace J. Carson. As I remember, it was really fucked up back then, too.

that book put a lot of the blame on helen kushnik leno's agent...she was made out to be the bad guy in the whole affair but looking back, it looks to me like jay knew more and instructed helen to get jay the tonight show and in the process fuck over his "friend" dave


nbc had canceled jay's 10 o'clock show...he should leave gracefully and let conan continue...but it looks like jay wants to fuck over another "friend" :roll:

blackredyellow

mca47 wrote:

So what the heck is Leno going to do in that 30 minute timeslot?

His incredibly non-funny monologue takes 30 mins itself. Would he still have guests/celebs?

Yeah, I don't get it either... I don't like Leno's show, but from the little that I saw, he was a better interviewer than a monologue guy.

Dave's a natural at it too, but Conan's interviews sometimes have an awkward feel to them.