for the fraud-callerouters i've been wondering...are you as faithful to a partner as you are to your team? by your logic shouldn't you marry the first person you date and if you don't you're a fraud?
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oh well you haven't seen juggler's "special" eagles jersey have you? it's worn by a ron jaworski mannequin and that's all i will say.
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good read. this one should have a caveat or two associated with it:
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“I’m a fan of the school I grew up down the street from.”
Sigh. Growing up near a university isn’t a good reason to root for them beyond high school. For instance, I grew up in Fort Worth near TCU. In 2010, when TCU won the Rose Bowl, I could have played the “I grew up there” card as a sneaky route to backdoor double-fandom. But that wouldn’t have worked for two reasons. One, I would have been cheating on Texas (which was 5-7, but that’s life). Two, the hometown rule would benefit people who grew up in Columbus, Tuscaloosa, Boise, etc. This kind of fandom is both prohibited and despicable.
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if you went to another big time school, then yeah, your allegiance will obviously have to change. but if you went to a small, non d1 school, then i think it's fine to be able to continue to root for your hometown, big time, school. i don't see anything fraudulent with this...so long as you did not go to another big time sports school. seems like a lot of people who post in here fit into this category.
good read. this one should have a caveat or two associated with it:
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“I’m a fan of the school I grew up down the street from.”
Sigh. Growing up near a university isn’t a good reason to root for them beyond high school. For instance, I grew up in Fort Worth near TCU. In 2010, when TCU won the Rose Bowl, I could have played the “I grew up there” card as a sneaky route to backdoor double-fandom. But that wouldn’t have worked for two reasons. One, I would have been cheating on Texas (which was 5-7, but that’s life). Two, the hometown rule would benefit people who grew up in Columbus, Tuscaloosa, Boise, etc. This kind of fandom is both prohibited and despicable.
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if you went to another big time school, then yeah, your allegiance will obviously have to change. but if you went to a small, non d1 school, then i think it's fine to be able to continue to root for your hometown, big time, school. i don't see anything fraudulent with this...so long as you did not go to another big time sports school. seems like a lot of people who post in here fit into this category.
Coincidentally, the first thing I thought of when reading the title of the article was this thread....
I think your scenario is covered in the 1AA exception. People that go/went to schools that don't have d1 football are free agents, so long as you don't switch like bandwagoners.
What if you've grown up a fan of UConn your whole life but didn't go to UConn for college? Are you a fraud? Two of my cousins went to school where the basketball team was D3 I believe.
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What if you've grown up a fan of UConn your whole life but didn't go to UConn for college? Are you a fraud? Two of my cousins went to school where the basketball team was D3 I believe.
Sounds like the 1AA exception to me. If your school doesn't have football or isn't D1 (FBS division), you're a free agent and can root for whoever you choose.
Not sure how this will translate to basketball since there wouldn't be a 1AA exception. If it's a D1 basketball school, I would think that their alma mater would trump the adopted school. For your cousins, I don't think there's any fraudulence going on since they are D3, as long as they still pull for their school in D3 competition.
good read. this one should have a caveat or two associated with it:
--
“I’m a fan of the school I grew up down the street from.”
Sigh. Growing up near a university isn’t a good reason to root for them beyond high school. For instance, I grew up in Fort Worth near TCU. In 2010, when TCU won the Rose Bowl, I could have played the “I grew up there” card as a sneaky route to backdoor double-fandom. But that wouldn’t have worked for two reasons. One, I would have been cheating on Texas (which was 5-7, but that’s life). Two, the hometown rule would benefit people who grew up in Columbus, Tuscaloosa, Boise, etc. This kind of fandom is both prohibited and despicable.
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if you went to another big time school, then yeah, your allegiance will obviously have to change. but if you went to a small, non d1 school, then i think it's fine to be able to continue to root for your hometown, big time, school. i don't see anything fraudulent with this...so long as you did not go to another big time sports school. seems like a lot of people who post in here fit into this category.
Coincidentally, the first thing I thought of when reading the title of the article was this thread....
I went to a DIII School, so I pull for Buffalo. Dont think thats cheating as they have had like 1 winning season.
My rooting interest with the big schools adjusts... but I never get emotionally involved or boast, etc... I have always liked Boise St though, way before they were good. In college, my friend had Gamebreaker 1997 for Playstation and I would always be Boise State because their field was cool.
I never had a baseball team near me growing up but have lived in lots of baseball cities. When I was a kid the parents would take me to Brewers games back in the Yount / Cooper era. I went to a few Cubs games and used to watch them in college (mainly to hear Harry Carry and figure out how many Buds he was up to) but would never consider myself a Cubs fan because ... their fans are dicks.
I've lived in the following BB towns:
Seattle
Oakland
SF
San Diego
The most I enjoyed going to games was in Seattle. Great stadium and I was there at their when they won a record 116 games and every game was a sellout. I grew up liking the Oakland super team of the late 80's. I went to SF games, but never bonded with the team. I like the Padres logo, but the team sucked and I never bonded with them.
That leaves me with three teams: Brewers, Mariners, and A's. And really two since I favor the M's over the A's.
Am I allowed to root for two teams? (pending they ever have another winning seasons again)
I never had a baseball team near me growing up but have lived in lots of baseball cities. When I was a kid the parents would take me to Brewers games back in the Yount / Cooper era. I went to a few Cubs games and used to watch them in college (mainly to hear Harry Carry and figure out how many Buds he was up to) but would never consider myself a Cubs fan because ... their fans are dicks.
I've lived in the following BB towns:
Seattle
Oakland
SF
San Diego
The most I enjoyed going to games was in Seattle. Great stadium and I was there at their when they won a record 116 games and every game was a sellout. I grew up liking the Oakland super team of the late 80's. I went to SF games, but never bonded with the team. I like the Padres logo, but the team sucked and I never bonded with them.
That leaves me with three teams: Brewers, Mariners, and A's. And really two since I favor the M's over the A's.
Am I allowed to root for two teams? (pending they ever have another winning seasons again)
yes welcome aboard the Brew Crew train! They both have cash, some good players, and are due for a good season every few years. Brewers are likely your best bet in the near term since the NL Central sucks compared to the Ranger-Angel powerhouses.
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What if you've grown up a fan of UConn your whole life but didn't go to UConn for college? Are you a fraud? Two of my cousins went to school where the basketball team was D3 I believe.
Sounds like the 1AA exception to me. If your school doesn't have football or isn't D1 (FBS division), you're a free agent and can root for whoever you choose.
Not sure how this will translate to basketball since there wouldn't be a 1AA exception. If it's a D1 basketball school, I would think that their alma mater would trump the adopted school. For your cousins, I don't think there's any fraudulence going on since they are D3, as long as they still pull for their school in D3 competition.
agreed. that is my scenario. however, if you did not go to a non d1 school, i think you'd probably have to root for whatever your hometown college was. the school you've been a fan of your whole life.
my school was d3 (i think...nobody really gave a shit about the sport teams unless one of your buddies was on one of the teams). it's like the minor leagues if you did not go to a d1 school.
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I never had a baseball team near me growing up but have lived in lots of baseball cities. When I was a kid the parents would take me to Brewers games back in the Yount / Cooper era. I went to a few Cubs games and used to watch them in college (mainly to hear Harry Carry and figure out how many Buds he was up to) but would never consider myself a Cubs fan because ... their fans are dicks.
I've lived in the following BB towns:
Seattle
Oakland
SF
San Diego
The most I enjoyed going to games was in Seattle. Great stadium and I was there at their when they won a record 116 games and every game was a sellout. I grew up liking the Oakland super team of the late 80's. I went to SF games, but never bonded with the team. I like the Padres logo, but the team sucked and I never bonded with them.
That leaves me with three teams: Brewers, Mariners, and A's. And really two since I favor the M's over the A's.
Am I allowed to root for two teams? (pending they ever have another winning seasons again)
yes welcome aboard the Brew Crew train! They both have cash, some good players, and are due for a good season every few years. Brewers are likely your best bet in the near term since the NL Central sucks compared to the Ranger-Angel powerhouses.
What if you've grown up a fan of UConn your whole life but didn't go to UConn for college? Are you a fraud? Two of my cousins went to school where the basketball team was D3 I believe.
Sounds like the 1AA exception to me. If your school doesn't have football or isn't D1 (FBS division), you're a free agent and can root for whoever you choose.
Not sure how this will translate to basketball since there wouldn't be a 1AA exception. If it's a D1 basketball school, I would think that their alma mater would trump the adopted school. For your cousins, I don't think there's any fraudulence going on since they are D3, as long as they still pull for their school in D3 competition.
agreed. that is my scenario. however, if you did not go to a non d1 school, i think you'd probably have to root for whatever your hometown college was. the school you've been a fan of your whole life.
my school was d3 (i think...nobody really gave a shit about the sport teams unless one of your buddies was on one of the teams). it's like the minor leagues if you did not go to a d1 school.
Yeah, they've been UConn fans probably since they were born. Thanks for the clarification Juggler and Mark.
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an un-named dude I met in Missoula said the Pats were his team and the Broncos were his backup :nono:
If I had known then what I know now...
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an un-named dude I met in Missoula said the Pats were his team and the Broncos were his backup :nono:
:fp:
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an un-named dude I met in Missoula said the Pats were his team and the Broncos were his backup :nono:
:fp:
My wife's a giants fan but said she also likes the pats. :fp: :fp:
at least those two are in different conferences.
If I had known then what I know now...
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Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
its hilarious and I agree with alot of its sentiments.
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an un-named dude I met in Missoula said the Pats were his team and the Broncos were his backup :nono:
the right thing to do in that situation is to punch him in the face and then kick him in the nuts. you would have been in the right.
I considered it. :think:
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Philly I & II, 16
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Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
How about this one. What if your team(s) really suck, but your unfraudulent friends' team(s) do not, and they are nearing a title run. Are you supposed to sit by idly and watch your friends run around dorm rooms or bars or their houses doing stupid touchdown celebrations, homerun chants, goal screams, etc. or can you pick up and root hard for the team that would bring them the most miserable defeat? I'm not talking about that team being backup or anything just the team of the moment, a one-week stand as it were. I'm a proud fraud, and have found myself rooting for the likes of Rex Grossman, Dirk Nowitzki, Reggie Miller, the Vancouver Canucks, anyone the Patriots ever come across, and so on based on this behavioral choice. Thoughts?
How about this one. What if your team(s) really suck, but your unfraudulent friends' team(s) do not, and they are nearing a title run. Are you supposed to sit by idly and watch your friends run around dorm rooms or bars or their houses doing stupid touchdown celebrations, homerun chants, goal screams, etc. or can you pick up and root hard for the team that would bring them the most miserable defeat? I'm not talking about that team being backup or anything just the team of the moment, a one-week stand as it were. I'm a proud fraud, and have found myself rooting for the likes of Rex Grossman, Dirk Nowitzki, Reggie Miller, the Vancouver Canucks, anyone the Patriots ever come across, and so on based on this behavioral choice. Thoughts?
You can root for anyone to win, but you can't buy their jerseys and gear and claim you are a fan. That's what makes the NCAA tourney so great. There is always a team to root for ... especially if gambling is involved.
I did the same fist pump that Peyton Manning did when Eli hit Plax for a TD in the Super Bowl.
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rifle, polish.
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“I’m a fan of the school I grew up down the street from.”
Sigh. Growing up near a university isn’t a good reason to root for them beyond high school. For instance, I grew up in Fort Worth near TCU. In 2010, when TCU won the Rose Bowl, I could have played the “I grew up there” card as a sneaky route to backdoor double-fandom. But that wouldn’t have worked for two reasons. One, I would have been cheating on Texas (which was 5-7, but that’s life). Two, the hometown rule would benefit people who grew up in Columbus, Tuscaloosa, Boise, etc. This kind of fandom is both prohibited and despicable.
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if you went to another big time school, then yeah, your allegiance will obviously have to change. but if you went to a small, non d1 school, then i think it's fine to be able to continue to root for your hometown, big time, school. i don't see anything fraudulent with this...so long as you did not go to another big time sports school. seems like a lot of people who post in here fit into this category.
thoughts?
He did have a part 2 that further covers other scenarios:
http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-trian ... m-part-2-2
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
Not sure how this will translate to basketball since there wouldn't be a 1AA exception. If it's a D1 basketball school, I would think that their alma mater would trump the adopted school. For your cousins, I don't think there's any fraudulence going on since they are D3, as long as they still pull for their school in D3 competition.
http://community.pearljam.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=194349#p4576706
nice job on the circle linking. :thumbup:
I went to a DIII School, so I pull for Buffalo. Dont think thats cheating as they have had like 1 winning season.
My rooting interest with the big schools adjusts... but I never get emotionally involved or boast, etc... I have always liked Boise St though, way before they were good. In college, my friend had Gamebreaker 1997 for Playstation and I would always be Boise State because their field was cool.
I never had a baseball team near me growing up but have lived in lots of baseball cities. When I was a kid the parents would take me to Brewers games back in the Yount / Cooper era. I went to a few Cubs games and used to watch them in college (mainly to hear Harry Carry and figure out how many Buds he was up to) but would never consider myself a Cubs fan because ... their fans are dicks.
I've lived in the following BB towns:
Seattle
Oakland
SF
San Diego
The most I enjoyed going to games was in Seattle. Great stadium and I was there at their when they won a record 116 games and every game was a sellout. I grew up liking the Oakland super team of the late 80's. I went to SF games, but never bonded with the team. I like the Padres logo, but the team sucked and I never bonded with them.
That leaves me with three teams: Brewers, Mariners, and A's. And really two since I favor the M's over the A's.
Am I allowed to root for two teams? (pending they ever have another winning seasons again)
agreed. that is my scenario. however, if you did not go to a non d1 school, i think you'd probably have to root for whatever your hometown college was. the school you've been a fan of your whole life.
my school was d3 (i think...nobody really gave a shit about the sport teams unless one of your buddies was on one of the teams). it's like the minor leagues if you did not go to a d1 school.
do not listen to this advice jason p.
Anyone else want to jump on this bandwagon?
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VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
at least those two are in different conferences.
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
the right thing to do in that situation is to punch him in the face and then kick him in the nuts. you would have been in the right.
its hilarious and I agree with alot of its sentiments.
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I considered it. :think:
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VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
there is nothing to consider. you hear something like that--BOOM. DONE. then walk away with your head held high.
IT IS YOUR GOD GIVEN RIGHT.
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VIC 07
EV LA1 08
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Columbus 10
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Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
I did the same fist pump that Peyton Manning did when Eli hit Plax for a TD in the Super Bowl.