are YOU a sports fan fraud?

Jearlpam0925

Man, I missed out on all of this? God damnit. I feel like this convo's gone too far for me to even get involved now. :(

And, yes, the Cowboy did not sell out their building when they blew ass. That's a fact.

Fuck that fuckin star.

Cliffy6745

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Man, I missed out on all of this? God damnit. I feel like this convo's gone too far for me to even get involved now. :(

And, yes, the Cowboy did not sell out their building when they blew ass. That's a fact.

Fuck that fuckin star.

Haha, we got started on it pretty late last night.

Cliffy6745

jimed14 wrote:

I was like 3 lines into this and thinking "shit, I know this" ... fuckin' aye right, the BOSTON Sports Guy. I was reading him long before he hit ESPN.

For the record, I wish, for every single one of you that when your team finally wins a championship after many many long years of suffering, you have a cool, funny wirter like Simmons to put it all together like this ...



Yeah, I know, Yankee fans probably won't ever have something like this ... but, as a Sox fan ... this book is sheer fucking heaven.

I like Simmons, I don't always agree with him but he is a great writer and he does not drink the ESPN Kool-Aid.

I am looking forward to reading his new book, just need to get the motivation to pick up a 700 page book.

Jearlpam0925

Cliffy6745 wrote:

I like Simmons, I don't always agree with him but he is a great writer and he does not drink the ESPN Kool-Aid.

I am looking forward to reading his new book, just need to get the motivation to pick up a 700 page book.

Yeah, I don't have the interest to read 700 pages on basketball, but that's just me. And I'm sorry, love the Sports Guy, but because of him there's a TON of copycat sites just ripping off his humor. And he writes WAY too much about New England sports in his NATIONAL ESPN columns. I don't need a 5,000 word column written about your theory on how Manny left Boston followed up by some lame article about the Pats. Love Simmons mostly for his Vegas articles - they're timeless.

And one more thing, because I'm an asshole, I'll never understand this feeling of lovable losers with Boston with the Sox up till 2004. I'll admit, I liked them up until then because they always went against the Yankees and I'll always despise the Yankees more. But for anyone in that city to feel like, "FINALLY we did it." Fuck that. Before then, you saw the Pat win 2 Super Bowls and the Celts win a shit load. The Sox are religion apparently up there, I get it. But don't gimme this shit that you've been living in torture for years because of it. I went 26 years on this Earth without seeing ANY of my teams win it. That's when you start to truly feel, "is it ever going to happen?" Other than being from Cleveland, who's got it wayyyy worse, no one could ever sympathize with our situation.

Boston's kitchey, apparently their accent has a charm, and all chicks want to go to school there. It's 'Good Will Hunting' in their heads(girls) at all times. Cliffy, THAT is why people became bandwagons of this team. And then when they won, I found out they were more condescending and obnoxious than any Yankee fan I ever came across. It's all bullshit tied together to seem like some kind of dream. This is where my distain for the Boston fan, for me, has come from. Whenever a Philly fan boasted for the last year like a pompous fucking ass, I supported it. Ya know why? We deserved to. We had NOTHING - absolutely nothing.

Oh, and Cliffy, those bandwagon fans in this area were the ones that couldn't stick it out. They still come to games when the Sawx are in town too. They come all the way down from .....Bucks County, and Gloucestah.....New Jersey. And it's all because of the reasons I described above. And I can't wait to go up to Fenway this year and be a total dick. No violence of course.

Breath in...breath out....ahhhh, much better.

The Juggler

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Man, I missed out on all of this? God damnit. I feel like this convo's gone too far for me to even get involved now. :(

And, yes, the Cowboy did not sell out their building when they blew ass. That's a fact.

Fuck that fuckin star.

welcome aboard my friend. have at it

Jearlpam0925

The Jeagler wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Man, I missed out on all of this? God damnit. I feel like this convo's gone too far for me to even get involved now. :(

And, yes, the Cowboy did not sell out their building when they blew ass. That's a fact.

Fuck that fuckin star.

welcome aboard my friend. have at it

.....I think I just did.

cowboypjfan

(Note: It's also OK to wager against your team, if they're hopelessly out of the playoff race. But only then. And only if you don't make it a habit.)

As a bettin' man, I cannot agree with this one even if it would be only 1 bet.

Wait, but my relatives from Tx are 2.5 hours away from the stadium. I must be fraudulent then :roll:

Gettin' pumped for Sat. night Jeags!!

Flagg

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Man, I missed out on all of this? God damnit. I feel like this convo's gone too far for me to even get involved now. :(

And, yes, the Cowboy did not sell out their building when they blew ass. That's a fact.

Fuck that fuckin star.

This is true. During the 80s I had to travel to my grandparent's house 75 miles outside of Dallas to watch the games. I hate the blackout rule.

Jearlpam0925

Flagg wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Man, I missed out on all of this? God damnit. I feel like this convo's gone too far for me to even get involved now. :(

And, yes, the Cowboy did not sell out their building when they blew ass. That's a fact.

Fuck that fuckin star.

This is true. During the 80s I had to travel to my grandparent's house 75 miles outside of Dallas to watch the games. I hate the blackout rule.

I admire your loyalty. But fuck Dallas.

Flagg

mr.pink wrote:

As far as this guy's guidelines go:

If you ever root for your "fantasy" over your team... I can't even talk to you. I don't do fantasy, but I could see rooting for a player if my team was out of the picture. Like, I've rooted for old man Favre when the game had absolutely no implications on the Cowboys.

Wearing jerseys.... I can't do it. I think its ok for kids, and sometimes girls look cute in them, but come on... to each their own, but a baseball cap is as far as I can go with it, may be a jacket if its looks cool to me.

Saying "we" doesn't bother me, I do it sometimes myself... unintentionally. From what I can see, the fans are the most important part of the team, they're the whole reason the thing exsists.

If you ever switch teams after age.... let's say 12, thats fucking weak. If you do it as an adult, I can't respect that at all.

If I went to game in Dallas, I might wear my D or Star hat, probably depending on my hair that day. If I went to a game somewhere else, you better believe I'm going to wear a Cowboys cap. If I ever see a game in Philly, I'll go back on my jersey thing and buy one just for the occasion.

I don't get fantasy football either. I guess it is fun but I have never showed interest in it. I just can't root for Eli Manning just because he is on my fantasy team. I can't watch the Vikings play the Cowboys and hope Peterson has a great day because I have him. Sorry, can't do it.

I say "we' a lot too. Just a habit. I know I am not on the team, but I have followed them my whole life, I go to games sometimes and buy all their shit so I feel like I own a piece anyway.

I don't wear Cowboys jerseys to games. I haven't had one since an Irvin jersey from back in the day. My kid has a Barber jersey though and breaks that out at school every Friday on "jersey day". I do wear my Stars sweater to Stars games though. I don't know why. I certainly wouldn't wear either one outside of watching a game.

Flagg

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Flagg wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Man, I missed out on all of this? God damnit. I feel like this convo's gone too far for me to even get involved now. :(

And, yes, the Cowboy did not sell out their building when they blew ass. That's a fact.

Fuck that fuckin star.

This is true. During the 80s I had to travel to my grandparent's house 75 miles outside of Dallas to watch the games. I hate the blackout rule.

I admire your loyalty. But fuck Dallas.

Phuck Philly!

God this game needs to be played.

I think next year, we should just have an NFC East thread. Or a Cowboys/Philly thread since we spend so much time jumping in each other's threads anyway.

Cliffy6745

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Yeah, I don't have the interest to read 700 pages on basketball, but that's just me. And I'm sorry, love the Sports Guy, but because of him there's a TON of copycat sites just ripping off his humor. And he writes WAY too much about New England sports in his NATIONAL ESPN columns. I don't need a 5,000 word column written about your theory on how Manny left Boston followed up by some lame article about the Pats. Love Simmons mostly for his Vegas articles - they're timeless.

And one more thing, because I'm an asshole, I'll never understand this feeling of lovable losers with Boston with the Sox up till 2004. I'll admit, I liked them up until then because they always went against the Yankees and I'll always despise the Yankees more. But for anyone in that city to feel like, "FINALLY we did it." Fuck that. Before then, you saw the Pat win 2 Super Bowls and the Celts win a shit load. The Sox are religion apparently up there, I get it. But don't gimme this shit that you've been living in torture for years because of it. I went 26 years on this Earth without seeing ANY of my teams win it. That's when you start to truly feel, "is it ever going to happen?" Other than being from Cleveland, who's got it wayyyy worse, no one could ever sympathize with our situation.

Boston's kitchey, apparently their accent has a charm, and all chicks want to go to school there. It's 'Good Will Hunting' in their heads(girls) at all times. Cliffy, THAT is why people became bandwagons of this team. And then when they won, I found out they were more condescending and obnoxious than any Yankee fan I ever came across. It's all bullshit tied together to seem like some kind of dream. This is where my distain for the Boston fan, for me, has come from. Whenever a Philly fan boasted for the last year like a pompous fucking ass, I supported it. Ya know why? We deserved to. We had NOTHING - absolutely nothing.

Oh, and Cliffy, those bandwagon fans in this area were the ones that couldn't stick it out. They still come to games when the Sawx are in town too. They come all the way down from .....Bucks County, and Gloucestah.....New Jersey. And it's all because of the reasons I described above. And I can't wait to go up to Fenway this year and be a total dick. No violence of course.

Breath in...breath out....ahhhh, much better.

Yeah, I have read and heard some good things about the book and I will probably read it eventually but I hear you. I also hear it is pretty brutal how much he pushes his belief that Russell is better than Chamberlin. He does write about all things New England and I don't read most of them but I do like the guy.

Where to start on the rest of this. I hear you on all of it. You would have thought that Boston had never won a championship in any sport the way they acted after 2004 and yes, "Red Sox Nation" has exploded since then and is quite possibly the most annoying group of people in the world. Especially the chicks with their pink hats and shit. I do get that the Red Sox winning was bigger than anything they had experienced (the Giants winning the SuperBowl is not as big for me as the Yanks winning the World Series) but yeah, they won plenty so to act like Cleveland or Philly is absurd.

And I agree on the Philly stuff as well. People my age in this city had never seen their team win a championship and I was happy for a lot of people I got to know here. Might want to practice that whole celebration thing though, no need to destroy shit. I am sure you are correct on the bandwagon fans in this town, just saw a whole lot of it when I moved here.

Edit: Oh, and there is nothing chamring about that accent! TWAMMY BRADY!!!!

tcaporale

A good example: My father, disgusted with the way the Giants played this past year, now considers himself a Colts fan.

Sorry, it doesn't work like that.

Cliffy6745

crazypjfan wrote:

(Note: It's also OK to wager against your team, if they're hopelessly out of the playoff race. But only then. And only if you don't make it a habit.)

As a bettin' man, I cannot agree with this one even if it would be only 1 bet.

Wait, but my relatives from Tx are 2.5 hours away from the stadium. I must be fraudulent then :roll:

Gettin' pumped for Sat. night Jeags!!

It is not okay to bet against your team. EVER!

Jearlpam0925

Cliffy6745 wrote:

And I agree on the Philly stuff as well. People my age in this city had never seen their team win a championship and I was happy for a lot of people I got to know here. Might want to practice that whole celebration thing though, no need to destroy shit. I am sure you are correct on the bandwagon fans in this town, just saw a whole lot of it when I moved here.

Ya see, that I don't get it either. In all relativity, compared to friends of mine from other parts of the country thought this city was going to burn down and someone was going to hump the Liberty Bell. So all things told, I don't think it was that bad. I was down there where all this shit happened, I really do think it gets blown out of proportion. And at the parade absolutely nothing happened. The parade is what I think Heaven would be like - if there actually was such a thing. The cops were the only assholes. After all the floats(what have you) went by - were you down there by any chance? - everyone just followed the cavalry down to the sports complex, and I was high fiving everyone on the side of the street, even the cops. This one cop doesn't have any of it and slaps the beer out of my hand. Gay.

Cliffy6745

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

And I agree on the Philly stuff as well. People my age in this city had never seen their team win a championship and I was happy for a lot of people I got to know here. Might want to practice that whole celebration thing though, no need to destroy shit. I am sure you are correct on the bandwagon fans in this town, just saw a whole lot of it when I moved here.

Ya see, that I don't get it either. In all relativity, compared to friends of mine from other parts of the country thought this city was going to burn down and someone was going to hump the Liberty Bell. So all things told, I don't think it was that bad. I was down there where all this shit happened, I really do think it gets blown out of proportion. And at the parade absolutely nothing happened. The parade is what I think Heaven would be like - if there actually was such a thing. The cops were the only assholes. After all the floats(what have you) went by - were you down there by any chance? - everyone just followed the cavalry down to the sports complex, and I was high fiving everyone on the side of the street, even the cops. This one cop doesn't have any of it and slaps the beer out of my hand. Gay.

It may not have been THAT bad but it was pretty bad, there is no need to flip cars, light shit on fire or break into and trash a luggage store. I get that a select few were responsible for the problems but I just dont get that. It's a celebration, be happy, get drunk, high five every person you see, yell at the top of your lungs but dont ruin someone else's shit, especially a store.

I was not at the parade, I was actually the only person in the office that day. I heard it was a great time. It looked like a good time on tv, couldn't have asked for a better day weather wise. And a cop being a dick during the parade is uncalled for, the guy is getting paid overtime and the team just won a championship.

Cliffy6745

Anyone remember this map Nike created? It is dead on.

Jearlpam0925

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

And I agree on the Philly stuff as well. People my age in this city had never seen their team win a championship and I was happy for a lot of people I got to know here. Might want to practice that whole celebration thing though, no need to destroy shit. I am sure you are correct on the bandwagon fans in this town, just saw a whole lot of it when I moved here.

Ya see, that I don't get it either. In all relativity, compared to friends of mine from other parts of the country thought this city was going to burn down and someone was going to hump the Liberty Bell. So all things told, I don't think it was that bad. I was down there where all this shit happened, I really do think it gets blown out of proportion. And at the parade absolutely nothing happened. The parade is what I think Heaven would be like - if there actually was such a thing. The cops were the only assholes. After all the floats(what have you) went by - were you down there by any chance? - everyone just followed the cavalry down to the sports complex, and I was high fiving everyone on the side of the street, even the cops. This one cop doesn't have any of it and slaps the beer out of my hand. Gay.

It may not have been THAT bad but it was pretty bad, there is no need to flip cars, light shit on fire or break into and trash a luggage store. I get that a select few were responsible for the problems but I just dont get that. It's a celebration, be happy, get drunk, high five every person you see, yell at the top of your lungs but dont ruin someone else's shit, especially a store.

I was not at the parade, I was actually the only person in the office that day. I heard it was a great time. It looked like a good time on tv, couldn't have asked for a better day weather wise. And a cop being a dick during the parade is uncalled for, the guy is getting paid overtime and the team just won a championship.

Let's put it this way. There was a lot of........people, at the parade that didn't even know who the Phillies were. I saw them with my own eyes. These weren't Phillies fans. There was a couple cars flipped, a fire in a dumpster, Robinson's broke open. This all happened in a 4 city block radius. I can't impugn an entire city for that. But, hey, what can ya do? Seeing riot police coming right at me was bizarre.

Then there was this gem too, which is awesome and just shows that all the douchery gets exposed and not the good stuff - ie the parade.

http://phillyfixmycar.blogspot.com/

Oh, and the lighting of fireworks right in the middle of Broad & Locust was awesome.

Cliffy6745

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Let's put it this way. There was a lot of........people, at the parade that didn't even know who the Phillies were. I saw them with my own eyes. These weren't Phillies fans. There was a couple cars flipped, a fire in a dumpster, Robinson's broke open. This all happened in a 4 city block radius. I can't impugn an entire city for that. But, hey, what can ya do? Seeing riot police coming right at me was bizarre.

Then there was this gem too, which is awesome and just shows that all the douchery gets exposed and not the good stuff - ie the parade.

http://phillyfixmycar.blogspot.com/

Like I said, I know it was a select few that were responsible but that shit shouldn't happen period. I walked down towards the parade at lunch and there were so many kids that were not Phillies fans, college kids from everywhere.

That is very cool.

Jearlpam0925

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Let's put it this way. There was a lot of........people, at the parade that didn't even know who the Phillies were. I saw them with my own eyes. These weren't Phillies fans. There was a couple cars flipped, a fire in a dumpster, Robinson's broke open. This all happened in a 4 city block radius. I can't impugn an entire city for that. But, hey, what can ya do? Seeing riot police coming right at me was bizarre.

Then there was this gem too, which is awesome and just shows that all the douchery gets exposed and not the good stuff - ie the parade.

http://phillyfixmycar.blogspot.com/

Like I said, I know it was a select few that were responsible but that shit shouldn't happen period. I walked down towards the parade at lunch and there were so many kids that were not Phillies fans, college kids from everywhere.

That is very cool.

Well, all I can say is - and I think you know from living here for enough time - no one in this area could give two shit's what those outside of the area think of those living here. I'm just sayin' because no one ever brings it up when they talk about when they won, only those not from here do. So, as it stands now, that's the last memory I think of. What digusts me more was when I was walking down Broad after getting back from the game to meet up with my friends and some drunk dude is yelling like a complete drunk psycho at a security guard wearing a Cowboys knit hat. That really let me down. I was like, "Yo, dude, the Phillies JUST WON THE FUCKING WORLD SERIES. Fuck this guy, no need to do that shit right now. Live it up!" I think it sorta got through to him because he left the guy alone, and the guard had a look of ease on him that said "Thank you."

Oh, and you said we might want to work on that celebration thing? Ya know how they say, "act like ya been there before"? Well, guess what, we never have been. So act like ya never have been. I have no regrets on how anything went down around here.

EDIT: EDIT: The drunk retards around here are like the black sheep alcoholic uncles of our family. WE can make fun of them, but we'll stick up for them against those not from here any day. Sorry, but that's just how it works around here. The word rationality doesn't go over well here. And I include myself in that.