The Chicago Cubs..Please Just Go Away!!!

mca47

NoCode416 wrote:

that said, i was hoping the cubs would sign him this past offseason and put him at first base.

if prince and pujols cost too much, i would be a proponent for the cubs buying low -- very low -- on dunn this offseason... maybe the sox would be willing to eat a shit ton of his contract.

While Pena is certainly not the answer at first for the Cubs, after this year, I'm sure they could sign him for a much, much smaller 1-2 yr contract. While he is hitting the ball better of late, he's also old and will likely never hit higher than .260 ever again or have more than 30 HRs. That and it doesn't hurt having a gold glover playing first with a guy like Castro at short. He's single-handedly saved 15-20 throwing errors this year from Castro alone...that doesn't even include Aramis' wild arm this year either.

mfc2006

The Cubs may not be worth the time of day....

but what the fuck is going on with my beloved Astros? :?

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mfc2006 wrote:

The Cubs may not be worth the time of day....

but what the fuck is going on with my beloved Astros? :?

somebody forgot to tell them spring training is over.

mca47

Oh, and for as much as I'd like to see a guy like Fielder or Poo-holes playing first next year, I really don't see it happening. Either one is going to require a HUGE contract, and the Cub's hands are really tied for the next 2 years.

If they Cubs can't start stringing together some wins, they really need to get rid of Zambrano (should have 3-4 years ago IMO). Does anyone know how much longer Aram has left on his contract? I like Aram, but his numbers are down and he could still fetch some talent.

mfc2006

The 81 wrote:

mfc2006 wrote:

The Cubs may not be worth the time of day....

but what the fuck is going on with my beloved Astros? :?

somebody forgot to tell them spring training is over.

sad...but oh-so-true. they have some good young talent, though. maybe they'll actually compete in 2-3 years. i miss the Killer B's.

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mca47 wrote:

Oh, and for as much as I'd like to see a guy like Fielder or Poo-holes playing first next year, I really don't see it happening. Either one is going to require a HUGE contract, and the Cub's hands are really tied for the next 2 years.

If they Cubs can't start stringing together some wins, they really need to get rid of Zambrano (should have 3-4 years ago IMO). Does anyone know how much longer Aram has left on his contract? I like Aram, but his numbers are down and he could still fetch some talent.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key ... utput=html

looks like aram and the cubs have a mutal option for next season....

Indifference71

The 81 wrote:

mca47 wrote:

Oh, and for as much as I'd like to see a guy like Fielder or Poo-holes playing first next year, I really don't see it happening. Either one is going to require a HUGE contract, and the Cub's hands are really tied for the next 2 years.

If they Cubs can't start stringing together some wins, they really need to get rid of Zambrano (should have 3-4 years ago IMO). Does anyone know how much longer Aram has left on his contract? I like Aram, but his numbers are down and he could still fetch some talent.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key ... utput=html

looks like aram and the cubs have a mutal option for next season....

I thought that it was just a club option for Ramirez. Could be wrong.....and since I'm a Sox fan, I really don't give a shit. Although I'm sure Cubs fans are sick of his lazy ass. Is it possible for his effort to be any lower?

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Ramirez, 32, is in the final year of a five-year, $75MM deal. The Cubs hold an option on Ramirez in 2012 for $16MM, though roughly two weeks ago SI's Jon Heyman wrote that the club doesn't plan on exercising it. If the club doesn't exercise the option they will instead pay Ramirez a $2MM buyout.

here it is...cubs have the option

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E16

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E4

davidtrios

pena is looking good...will they resign him?

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Davidtrios wrote:

pena is looking good...will they resign him?

They should have never signed him.10m for a one year deal on a team everyone knew was going to stink

pureoc

Davidtrios wrote:

pena is looking good...will they resign him?

Hopefully they can trade him and get some prospects. If not, no way in hell should they resign him.

davidtrios

i cant believe im saying this, but i wanna go to the cubs game this thurs

not only is it cain/zambrano but ed will be singing...

http://www.wgntv.com/blogs/lenandbob/wg ... 8296.story

anyone know which seats are best to get a close up view of the booth?

http://www.stubhub.com/chicago-cubs-tic ... 1-1005105/

mca47

The 81 wrote:

Davidtrios wrote:

pena is looking good...will they resign him?

They should have never signed him.10m for a one year deal on a team everyone knew was going to stink

Agreed. While I think Pena is a decent player (his best years are waaaay behind him), there is no way he's worth $10 mil/year. At this point, if he's willing to play for say $2.5...then I would have no problem keeping him around. I really hope they don't go after Fielder or Poo-holes either.
With the same team plus Fielder or Poo-holes, they may win a couple more games in a year. A couple games doesn't amount to much if you are 12 games under .500.

As far as I'm concerned, the only player on the Cubs that is "un-touchable" at this point is Castro. The team is too heavily relied on old, overpayed, and underperforming vets.
Soriano - old, terrible defender, under performing, and one of the most expensive contracts in baseball.
Rammy - older, ok-at-best fielder, waaaay under performing, expensive!
Pena - old as shit, will never hit .260 again, good fielder, but is making almost 10x what he should.
Zambrano - should have been traded years ago. Expensive.

Other guys who aren't necessarily "un-touchable" but are solid players for the money:
Byrd
Wood
Johnson


And while Fukudome is having a solid season, I wouldn't have a problem with them using him as trade bait for some younger talent.

he still stands

Pena is AWESOME!!! (as long as he's facing a right-hand pitcher)

G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
vs. Left 35 60 8 6 1 0 2 5 10 27 0 0 .100 .225 .217 .442
vs. Right 70 174 27 47 6 0 14 37 33 47 0 2 .270 .389 .546 .935

a guy that simply CANNOT hit a lefty isn't worth much in MLB.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

ughhhhh..............

FenwayFaithful

This thread is so much fun. I feel for you guys. I really do.

And I'm the idiot that took Marmol in my fantasy draft to get saves for a team that never has save opportunities.

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Cubs would lose to the seals

SPEEDY MCCREADY

This team is going to lose 100 games.....

Wow...