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LOST- 6th and Final Season (NO SPOILERS)

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    Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    hmmm, i might be debunking myself here...locke's dad was the real sawyer, right? and the sawyer on the island went to australia to try and find the real sawyer...so if locke's dad didn't do that i wonder why he'd go to australia?
    Locke's dad was the real Sawyer. Before Sawyer (James) killed him, he told Sawyer that as a con man he used many names, including Tom Sawyer, because the ladies loved that one.
    In S1, Sawyer went to Australia to kill the man he thought was Sawyer. It turned out he'd been tricked and the man he killed was somebody else.

    BTW, in the Sideways universe Sawyer seems pretty easygoing although he still goes for the nicknames (called the flight attendant Earhart, I think). I know we're all expecting him to try scamming Hurley but I've been wondering if maybe he's not a con artist anymore.
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    Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Wow, somebody has been translating what Dogen says in each episode:

    http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2010/02/wha ... n-say.html

    I am way too obsessed with this show. :oops:
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    Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    edited February 2010
    hmmm, i might be debunking myself here...locke's dad was the real sawyer, right? and the sawyer on the island went to australia to try and find the real sawyer...so if locke's dad didn't do that i wonder why he'd go to australia?
    Locke's dad was the real Sawyer. Before Sawyer (James) killed him, he told Sawyer that as a con man he used many names, including Tom Sawyer, because the ladies loved that one.
    In S1, Sawyer went to Australia to kill the man he thought was Sawyer. It turned out he'd been tricked and the man he killed was somebody else.

    BTW, in the Sideways universe Sawyer seems pretty easygoing although he still goes for the nicknames (called the flight attendant Earhart, I think). I know we're all expecting him to try scamming Hurley but I've been wondering if maybe he's not a con artist anymore.


    yeah, so if locke's dad was never a con artist obviously he wouldn't have scammed james' mom which would change the reason he went to australia, though others like locke, jin, sun, jack, claire, obviously kate were the same.

    another difference between the 2 universes is in the alternate 1 hurley is 'the luckiest man alive'. i liked when locke got fired and tried to put the ramp down on hurley's hummer but it stopped just short

    did they ever explain locke's dads relationship to the island?
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    Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    Wow, somebody has been translating what Dogen says in each episode:

    http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2010/02/wha ... n-say.html

    I am way too obsessed with this show. :oops:


    nice, thanks! i didn't notice mac in the episode from an earlier season but laughed when i heard his voice in episode 3 :lol:
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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    ok got my eyes closed...im on season 1 ep 13....


    but the theme tune to lost at the end of it and the end of not for you is the same note for note..or am i drunk


    can someone pm me the answer as im not coming in to read to find out and sod up my viewing of lost


    thanks you can go back to season 6 now
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    hmmm, i might be debunking myself here...locke's dad was the real sawyer, right? and the sawyer on the island went to australia to try and find the real sawyer...so if locke's dad didn't do that i wonder why he'd go to australia?
    Locke's dad was the real Sawyer. Before Sawyer (James) killed him, he told Sawyer that as a con man he used many names, including Tom Sawyer, because the ladies loved that one.
    In S1, Sawyer went to Australia to kill the man he thought was Sawyer. It turned out he'd been tricked and the man he killed was somebody else.

    BTW, in the Sideways universe Sawyer seems pretty easygoing although he still goes for the nicknames (called the flight attendant Earhart, I think). I know we're all expecting him to try scamming Hurley but I've been wondering if maybe he's not a con artist anymore.


    yeah, so if locke's dad was never a con artist obviously he wouldn't have scammed james' mom which would change the reason he went to australia, though others like locke, jin, sun, jack, claire, obviously kate were the same.

    another difference between the 2 universes is in the alternate 1 hurley is 'the luckiest man alive'. i liked when locke got fired and tried to put the ramp down on hurley's hummer but it stopped just short

    did they ever explain locke's dads relationship to the island?
    He was kidnapped by the others so Locke could kill him. I honestly believe that to be his only connection.
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    The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    Not enough Kate in last night's episode :thumbdown: .....and I'm totally against that lame ass Jacob now...I hope Claire's friend and Sawyer form an ultimate badass duo and pistol whip all of these little panty wastes..maybe even resurrect that prick Michael just to knock about a bit for good measure..
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    Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    edited February 2010
    so, who do you think the boy fake locke and james/sawyer sees in the jungle in 'the substitute'? maybe an older aaron?
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    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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    Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    did they ever explain locke's dads relationship to the island?
    He was kidnapped by the others so Locke could kill him. I honestly believe that to be his only connection.[/quote]


    maybe but what else would've changed to make locke and his dad get along and like each other? or maybe the flash sideways we are seeing is before he conned him out of the kidney when they were getting along but that was supposed to happen before australia, obviously...i wonder when they will show how locke ended up in a wheelchair if it wasn't from his dad?

    what if that isn't even his real dad? i'm kinda fuzzy on his birth scene now at the hospital
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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    Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    2 things i didn't catch until watching the enhanced version of the substitute
    locke's boss was hurley's boss at mr clucks (should've gotten that, though)

    it was already established Rose lived with Bernard in NY but in the flash sideways she was in LA working at Hurley's temp agency

    it also said common themes are destiny vs free will and good vs evil represented by the white and black stones and backgammon
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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    jervin007jervin007 Posts: 3,181
    Its interesting that Claire is now the new Rousseau (spelling?). All alone, going crazy, and claiming the others took her baby.
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    rriversrrivers Posts: 3,692
    So is it going to end with one of the candidates taking over Jacob's role on the island?
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    Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    does anyone remember what episode had locke's birth? was it 'lockdown'? it's been so long since i saw it but just the vibe i got from his father when he went to the hospital seems more than just a con man so what if the guy that conned locke out of his kidney and pushed him out the window wasn't even his dad? what if he was just a con man exploiting and conning him to get his kidney?
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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    Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    does anyone remember what episode had locke's birth? was it 'lockdown'? it's been so long since i saw it but just the vibe i got from his father when he went to the hospital seems more than just a con man so what if the guy that conned locke out of his kidney and pushed him out the window wasn't even his dad? what if he was just a con man exploiting and conning him to get his kidney?
    I don't remember which episode but a quick check of Lostpedia reveals it to be Cabin Fever from S4.
    "The stars are all connected to the brain."
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    by the way i was crackin up when i first saw mac from sunny in lost!! :lol::lol: (the translation vid reminded me, thanks for that!)

    why arent we talkin about this?
    and fuck me if I say somethin you dont wanna hear, fuck me!
    and fuck me if you only hear what you wanna hear
    fuck me...if I care...but im not leavin here
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    Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Talkin about what? :?
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    Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    does anyone remember what episode had locke's birth? was it 'lockdown'? it's been so long since i saw it but just the vibe i got from his father when he went to the hospital seems more than just a con man so what if the guy that conned locke out of his kidney and pushed him out the window wasn't even his dad? what if he was just a con man exploiting and conning him to get his kidney?
    I don't remember which episode but a quick check of Lostpedia reveals it to be Cabin Fever from S4.


    thanks, yer the best!
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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    Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    does anyone remember what episode had locke's birth? was it 'lockdown'? it's been so long since i saw it but just the vibe i got from his father when he went to the hospital seems more than just a con man so what if the guy that conned locke out of his kidney and pushed him out the window wasn't even his dad? what if he was just a con man exploiting and conning him to get his kidney?
    I don't remember which episode but a quick check of Lostpedia reveals it to be Cabin Fever from S4.


    thanks, yer the best!


    hmm maybe that wasn't his dad at the hospital

    Later, Emily and her mother are standing over John, now in an incubator. The nurse enters and is overjoyed at the fact that John is the youngest premature baby to survive at the hospital. Emily's mother, Mrs. Locke, seems less than thrilled at this information. At the prospect of holding him for the first time, Emily becomes upset. She runs out of the room crying, saying that she cannot do it. Mrs. Locke then casually asks whom she should speak to about adoption. Before getting an answer, she is surprised to see a man at the viewing window. The nurse asks if he is the father of the baby, and she responds by saying that she doesn't know who he is. The man is Richard Alpert, who looks the same age as he does on the Island in the present day.
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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    Talkin about what? :?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN5OXzOUBKs&feature=related

    its always sunny...where ever the hell that island is at any given place and time...except for when its raining, and the spooky voices whisper to everyone. and dead people show up. and then it just stops raining
    and fuck me if I say somethin you dont wanna hear, fuck me!
    and fuck me if you only hear what you wanna hear
    fuck me...if I care...but im not leavin here
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    by the way i was crackin up when i first saw mac from sunny in lost!! :lol::lol: (the translation vid reminded me, thanks for that!)

    why arent we talkin about this?

    That was hilarious. Not his first appearance either. Remember back to season 3 when Kate and Sawyer are attempting to escape the Hydra Island, they confront Mac when he sitting outside a compound, reading. Kate knocks him out, and I think he makes a comment to her about that in the S6 episode.

    I would die if Charlie Kelly were to pop-up somewhere, that would be amazing. :lol:
    He floated back down 'cause he wanted to share, his key to the locks on the chains he saw everywhere.
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    Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    "The stars are all connected to the brain."
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    igotid_8igotid_8 Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 498
    Locke's dad was the real Sawyer. Before Sawyer (James) killed him, he told Sawyer that as a con man he used many names, including Tom Sawyer, because the ladies loved that one.
    In S1, Sawyer went to Australia to kill the man he thought was Sawyer. It turned out he'd been tricked and the man he killed was somebody else.

    BTW, in the Sideways universe Sawyer seems pretty easygoing although he still goes for the nicknames (called the flight attendant Earhart, I think). I know we're all expecting him to try scamming Hurley but I've been wondering if maybe he's not a con artist anymore.[/quote]

    This IS an interesting question. I'm sure they will get to Sawyer's sideways story at some point. But yes, he has a totally different dispostion from the pilot episode. I too wonder if he's even a con man at all. Maybe his parents are still alive, and he has no reason to be bitter and angry.

    I don't think Anthony Cooper (Locke's father) had anything to do with the island back in the day. I think the Others just brought him to the island (Man From Tallahasee) as part of the test of Locke - if Locke was truly leader-worthy. In the sideways word, it appears Anthony Cooper isn't a con man either. Thus, he probably didn't kill Sawyer's parents (see above!)

    In the end - the blowing up with Jughead changed EVERYTHING in ways we do not understand yet. But I think we will at some point. But we can safely assume these characters were going to be involved in each others' lives no matter if they were on the island or off.
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    igotid_8igotid_8 Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 498
    IwasBit10 wrote:
    by the way i was crackin up when i first saw mac from sunny in lost!! :lol::lol: (the translation vid reminded me, thanks for that!)

    why arent we talkin about this?

    That was hilarious. Not his first appearance either. Remember back to season 3 when Kate and Sawyer are attempting to escape the Hydra Island, they confront Mac when he sitting outside a compound, reading. Kate knocks him out, and I think he makes a comment to her about that in the S6 episode.

    I would die if Charlie Kelly were to pop-up somewhere, that would be amazing. :lol:


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    Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    igotid_8 wrote:
    IwasBit10 wrote:
    by the way i was crackin up when i first saw mac from sunny in lost!! :lol::lol: (the translation vid reminded me, thanks for that!)

    why arent we talkin about this?

    That was hilarious. Not his first appearance either. Remember back to season 3 when Kate and Sawyer are attempting to escape the Hydra Island, they confront Mac when he sitting outside a compound, reading. Kate knocks him out, and I think he makes a comment to her about that in the S6 episode.

    I would die if Charlie Kelly were to pop-up somewhere, that would be amazing. :lol:


    I'm calling my shot - Sweet Dee is David's mother!

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    ya never know, it says 1 of em is a fan

    i saw mac's mom on something recently and it made me laugh but i forgot what it was
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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    mrs.....mac

    haha :lol:
    and fuck me if I say somethin you dont wanna hear, fuck me!
    and fuck me if you only hear what you wanna hear
    fuck me...if I care...but im not leavin here
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    Black DiamondBlack Diamond Posts: 25,107
    TONIGHT!!!!!
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    cdp1223cdp1223 Posts: 1,131
    TOOOOOONIIIIIIIIGHHTTTT!!!!! :lol:
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    Black DiamondBlack Diamond Posts: 25,107
    cdp1223 wrote:
    TOOOOOONIIIIIIIIGHHTTTT!!!!! :lol:
    LOL, Thanks Maria ;)
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    cdp1223cdp1223 Posts: 1,131
    cdp1223 wrote:
    TOOOOOONIIIIIIIIGHHTTTT!!!!! :lol:
    LOL, Thanks Maria ;)

    Who's Maria? :?
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    Black DiamondBlack Diamond Posts: 25,107
    :shock:

    I thought you were doing the Tonight, Tonight song from West Side Story :oops:

    I have now officially gotten old...
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