No. Give a tip if you WANT to. If you choose not too, or give what some may think is too little, you shouldn't be made to feel that you shouldn't go out and eat, or at least not go to that place. I know that if I went out to eat and left a tip that I deemed enough and learned that I was being talked about by staff and the owner looked my name up in the phone book, I'd be pissed. This guy spent $80 at the establishment!
sure you should be made to feel your a cheap bastard for going out to eat and CHOOSING not to tip. thats the definition of a cheap bastard! i'm not talking about being broke, we've all been there, but just choosing to be cheap is pathetic. its not rocket science. figure out what a good tip is and leave it. people shouldnt whine because they are too dumb to figure out whats 20% of a bill.
but it IS a choice... if the service is shit why should you HAVE to tip? I don't get that.
And another thing about prices shooting up, the prices in restaurants here are just the same as prices in restaurants in the US... but here waitresses get the same minimum wage...
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No. Give a tip if you WANT to. If you choose not too, or give what some may think is too little, you shouldn't be made to feel that you shouldn't go out and eat, or at least not go to that place. I know that if I went out to eat and left a tip that I deemed enough and learned that I was being talked about by staff and the owner looked my name up in the phone book, I'd be pissed. This guy spent $80 at the establishment!
sure you should be made to feel your a cheap bastard for going out to eat and CHOOSING not to tip. thats the definition of a cheap bastard! i'm not talking about being broke, we've all been there, but just choosing to be cheap is pathetic. its not rocket science. figure out what a good tip is and leave it. people shouldnt whine because they are too dumb to figure out whats 20% of a bill.
but it IS a choice... if the service is shit why should you HAVE to tip? I don't get that.
And another thing about prices shooting up, the prices in restaurants here are just the same as prices in restaurants in the US... but here waitresses get the same minimum wage...
if they are paid the same, why would the prices be any different? the argument was if you pay the wait staff more, the restaurant will logically have to raise their prices to offset the higher cost of their staff.
Redrock can go work for crappy tips is the UK so she can never afford to screw over waiters in the US because of her crazy crusade against the government.
How nice. Well... I don't wait on tables and I get a very decent salary so don't rely on people's generosity to make up for my boss' greed in paying next to nothing. Also, I may currently live in the UK, but am not English.
You may call it a crazy crusade, but as long as people like you find it normal to be screwed over by their boss and don't stand up to it, we'll get threads like this where certain category of workers get pissed off because charity is not given to them.
so just so im sure, you are for not giving any tip for good service? only amazing service (whatever that its)?
There are MANY ways a skilled waiter/waitress can provide a service 'beyond the call of duty'. Many of them are little things that don't require much from the waiting staff but have an impact on the dining experience of the customer. Those skilled and experienced waiters/waitresses will know what I'm talking about....
When will people understand that all of us lucky enough to have a job, have a standard to work with - this is what we get paid for. It's no different with the catering industry. If one chooses to accept a job where management decides not to pay their staff a fair wage, they know what they are getting into (and please don't start with the 'some people don't have a choice' - I know, times are tough and a job is a job).
Oh for fucks sake. Some people tip NO MATTER what. Others have their own way of doing it or not. Does everyone GET THAT? Let this thing die already.
as long as there are cheap bastards in the world screwing over servers i will never let it die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ummmm.... the cheap bastards will be the employer, not the customer. Good on you not to let it die then... insist on a fair wage - stop depending on people's goodwill.
This Sounds like ANOTHER! one of those "ONLY IN AMERICA" Stories.....PMSL :P :P :P :P :P
I think the fact that a couple were arrested for not paying the tip... yes... 'only in America'.
The fact that the catering/hotel/restaurant industry rips their employees off, unfortunately not, though it would seem that it is so much more flagrant in the US. The UK has problems with that too, but there is legislation in place to protect the worker.
americans seems to be obsessed by being labelled 'cheap'? whats with that... obnoxious, loud, bolshy, rude, egotistical you all seem fine with.... but call an american 'cheap' and its worse than if you had just told them that you had sex with their mother AND father at the same time... and he loved it more...
tipping is moronic...
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
americans seems to be obsessed by being labelled 'cheap'? whats with that... obnoxious, loud, bolshy, rude, egotistical you all seem fine with.... but call an american 'cheap' and its worse than if you had just told them that you had sex with their mother AND father at the same time... and he loved it more...
tipping is moronic...
There he is! This redundant thread wouldn't be complete with you. Now, if we can only get Helen in here... :roll:
americans seems to be obsessed by being labelled 'cheap'? whats with that... obnoxious, loud, bolshy, rude, egotistical you all seem fine with.... but call an american 'cheap' and its worse than if you had just told them that you had sex with their mother AND father at the same time... and he loved it more...
tipping is moronic...
There he is! This redundant thread wouldn't be complete with you. Now, if we can only get Helen in here... :roll:
i posted in it ages ago... :thumbup:
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
This Sounds like ANOTHER! one of those "ONLY IN AMERICA" Stories.....PMSL :P :P :P :P :P
I think the fact that a couple were arrested for not paying the tip... yes... 'only in America'.
The fact that the catering/hotel/restaurant industry rips their employees off, unfortunately not, though it would seem that it is so much more flagrant in the US. The UK has problems with that too, but there is legislation in place to protect the worker.
mrs smith made $50 for an hours worth of work on a table next to the dopes who left her 7 bucks.
...that poor girl getting ripped off by her bosses. the horror! :roll:
This Sounds like ANOTHER! one of those "ONLY IN AMERICA" Stories.....PMSL :P :P :P :P :P
I think the fact that a couple were arrested for not paying the tip... yes... 'only in America'.
The fact that the catering/hotel/restaurant industry rips their employees off, unfortunately not, though it would seem that it is so much more flagrant in the US. The UK has problems with that too, but there is legislation in place to protect the worker.
mrs smith made $50 for an hours worth of work on a table next to the dopes who left her 7 bucks.
...that poor girl getting ripped off by her bosses. the horror! :roll:
the person who left a $50 tip for an hours work is a flash moron who probably deserves to be the victim of a Nigerian banking scam... :thumbup:
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
I think the fact that a couple were arrested for not paying the tip... yes... 'only in America'.
The fact that the catering/hotel/restaurant industry rips their employees off, unfortunately not, though it would seem that it is so much more flagrant in the US. The UK has problems with that too, but there is legislation in place to protect the worker.
mrs smith made $50 for an hours worth of work on a table next to the dopes who left her 7 bucks.
...that poor girl getting ripped off by her bosses. the horror! :roll:
the person who left a $50 tip for an hours work is a flash moron who probably deserves to be the victim of a Nigerian banking scam... :thumbup:
the person who left a $50 tip for an hours work is a flash moron who probably deserves to be the victim of a Nigerian banking scam... :thumbup:
good one.
:thumbup:
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
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i remember when the standard tip was 10%
then 15, then 17 now 20. how long until it's 25? 30? 50? when does it end?
americans seems to be obsessed by being labelled 'cheap'? whats with that... obnoxious, loud, bolshy, rude, egotistical you all seem fine with.... but call an american 'cheap' and its worse than if you had just told them that you had sex with their mother AND father at the same time... and he loved it more...
tipping is moronic...
i call it classless, since you are screwing over people that work very hard for your money.
but then again, who would expect a European to understand that with choice comes responsibility. no wonder they have to pay minimum wage there, the CHEAP (ie low-class) customer base won't pay a fair amount unless they are forced too.
we're a little more generous and giving we think "whats throwing a 5 spot on 20 if it will make the cute waitress smile a little." when you guys say "they should have launched a rebellion against the government if they want something for waiting on my fatass like a slave!"
Whether the money comes from tipping or from the boss paying more, it still shoots the cost up the same for the customer. Why are people saying it would shoot the cost up too high if the wait staff got paid correctly? Don't they get that to the customer, they are still paying the same?? Also, just why did tipping go from 10% to 20%. Its a PERCENT! It automatically adjusts when food goes up! I have no idea why it went up.
if they are paid the same, why would the prices be any different? the argument was if you pay the wait staff more, the restaurant will logically have to raise their prices to offset the higher cost of their staff.
ah sorry, ok i was really tired when i wrote whatever i wrote so i'm not even going to read what i wrote
i guess what i meant was, in BC (where the min wage is the lowest in the country! :evil: ) waitresses get the same minimum wage as anyone else... the wages here are higher but the food prices seem about the same (as the USA), its not like food is disastrously higher here because our waitresses make a higher min. wage.
but now that i think about it, it probably depends on the employer... and if they've been getting away with paying 4 dollars an hour and are made to raise it to 6 (or wahtever it is) then they probably will raise their prices.
i call it classless, since you are screwing over people that work very hard for your money.
I don't think many people will screw the person who's working 'very hard' for their money. I think the original article was cos nobody WAS working very hard. If they're not working, they don't deserve the money.
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There is a restaurant in town that I have a trade account with; they get my organic chicken eggs, my family eats there. The other day, my husband took his mom & our two little girls to eat there. The bill was $40 (that came out of our trade account, so we didn't pay any money), and since my husband treated, his mom paid for the tip. Ok, so she tipped $6. My husband told her she should tip more, but she just said, "I'm not going to tip more than my actual meal!" She gets a free meal & still leaves only 15%! I'm embarrassed and feel like I need to go in to the restaurant specifically to give the waiter an extra $5. I mean seriously, doesn't this woman know that tips are what pay for her grandchildren to live?! sheesh!
There is a restaurant in town that I have a trade account with; they get my organic chicken eggs, my family eats there. The other day, my husband took his mom & our two little girls to eat there. The bill was $40 (that came out of our trade account, so we didn't pay any money), and since my husband treated, his mom paid for the tip. Ok, so she tipped $6. My husband told her she should tip more, but she just said, "I'm not going to tip more than my actual meal!" She gets a free meal & still leaves only 15%! I'm embarrassed and feel like I need to go in to the restaurant specifically to give the waiter an extra $5. I mean seriously, doesn't this woman know that tips are what pay for her grandchildren to live?! sheesh!
ok............
granted, i tip more when i get discount meals at my brother's restaurant... but... come on...
next you're going to complain about someone only leaving 20%...
There is a restaurant in town that I have a trade account with; they get my organic chicken eggs, my family eats there. The other day, my husband took his mom & our two little girls to eat there. The bill was $40 (that came out of our trade account, so we didn't pay any money), and since my husband treated, his mom paid for the tip. Ok, so she tipped $6. My husband told her she should tip more, but she just said, "I'm not going to tip more than my actual meal!" She gets a free meal & still leaves only 15%! I'm embarrassed and feel like I need to go in to the restaurant specifically to give the waiter an extra $5. I mean seriously, doesn't this woman know that tips are what pay for her grandchildren to live?! sheesh!
ok............
granted, i tip more when i get discount meals at my brother's restaurant... but... come on...
next you're going to complain about someone only leaving 20%...
There is a restaurant in town that I have a trade account with; they get my organic chicken eggs, my family eats there. The other day, my husband took his mom & our two little girls to eat there. The bill was $40 (that came out of our trade account, so we didn't pay any money), and since my husband treated, his mom paid for the tip. Ok, so she tipped $6. My husband told her she should tip more, but she just said, "I'm not going to tip more than my actual meal!" She gets a free meal & still leaves only 15%! I'm embarrassed and feel like I need to go in to the restaurant specifically to give the waiter an extra $5. I mean seriously, doesn't this woman know that tips are what pay for her grandchildren to live?! sheesh!
ok............
granted, i tip more when i get discount meals at my brother's restaurant... but... come on...
next you're going to complain about someone only leaving 20%...
HALF A JAPPA!
I'D HAVE TIPPA YA A FULL JAPPA! :x
lol... well come onnn... first lets complain that you only get 10% tip, ok, fair enough, they tipped you what you think shitty. well now someone is only tipping 15%, how cheap of them :roll:
so logically if the trend continues someone will only tip 20% and then look out america!
granted, i tip more when i get discount meals at my brother's restaurant... but... come on...
next you're going to complain about someone only leaving 20%...
HALF A JAPPA!
I'D HAVE TIPPA YA A FULL JAPPA! :x
lol... well come onnn... first lets complain that you only get 10% tip, ok, fair enough, they tipped you what you think shitty. well now someone is only tipping 15%, how cheap of them :roll:
so logically if the trend continues someone will only tip 20% and then look out america!
i actually don't have a huge issue with that scenario. its only a couple bucks. just saying what i'd do there...
lol... well come onnn... first lets complain that you only get 10% tip, ok, fair enough, they tipped you what you think shitty. well now someone is only tipping 15%, how cheap of them :roll:
so logically if the trend continues someone will only tip 20% and then look out america!
i actually don't have a huge issue with that scenario. its only a couple bucks. just saying what i'd do there...
lol... i'd wait on you all night.
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And another thing about prices shooting up, the prices in restaurants here are just the same as prices in restaurants in the US... but here waitresses get the same minimum wage...
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
if they are paid the same, why would the prices be any different? the argument was if you pay the wait staff more, the restaurant will logically have to raise their prices to offset the higher cost of their staff.
How nice. Well... I don't wait on tables and I get a very decent salary so don't rely on people's generosity to make up for my boss' greed in paying next to nothing. Also, I may currently live in the UK, but am not English.
You may call it a crazy crusade, but as long as people like you find it normal to be screwed over by their boss and don't stand up to it, we'll get threads like this where certain category of workers get pissed off because charity is not given to them.
Again... you sow what you reap.
There are MANY ways a skilled waiter/waitress can provide a service 'beyond the call of duty'. Many of them are little things that don't require much from the waiting staff but have an impact on the dining experience of the customer. Those skilled and experienced waiters/waitresses will know what I'm talking about....
When will people understand that all of us lucky enough to have a job, have a standard to work with - this is what we get paid for. It's no different with the catering industry. If one chooses to accept a job where management decides not to pay their staff a fair wage, they know what they are getting into (and please don't start with the 'some people don't have a choice' - I know, times are tough and a job is a job).
Ummmm.... the cheap bastards will be the employer, not the customer. Good on you not to let it die then... insist on a fair wage - stop depending on people's goodwill.
I think the fact that a couple were arrested for not paying the tip... yes... 'only in America'.
The fact that the catering/hotel/restaurant industry rips their employees off, unfortunately not, though it would seem that it is so much more flagrant in the US. The UK has problems with that too, but there is legislation in place to protect the worker.
Your RIGHT about That!
tipping is moronic...
There he is! This redundant thread wouldn't be complete with you. Now, if we can only get Helen in here... :roll:
i posted in it ages ago... :thumbup:
mrs smith made $50 for an hours worth of work on a table next to the dopes who left her 7 bucks.
...that poor girl getting ripped off by her bosses. the horror! :roll:
the person who left a $50 tip for an hours work is a flash moron who probably deserves to be the victim of a Nigerian banking scam... :thumbup:
good one.
:thumbup:
then 15, then 17 now 20. how long until it's 25? 30? 50? when does it end?
I'm so sick of tipping scam.
but then again, who would expect a European to understand that with choice comes responsibility. no wonder they have to pay minimum wage there, the CHEAP (ie low-class) customer base won't pay a fair amount unless they are forced too.
we're a little more generous and giving
ah sorry, ok i was really tired when i wrote whatever i wrote so i'm not even going to read what i wrote
i guess what i meant was, in BC (where the min wage is the lowest in the country! :evil: ) waitresses get the same minimum wage as anyone else... the wages here are higher but the food prices seem about the same (as the USA), its not like food is disastrously higher here because our waitresses make a higher min. wage.
but now that i think about it, it probably depends on the employer... and if they've been getting away with paying 4 dollars an hour and are made to raise it to 6 (or wahtever it is) then they probably will raise their prices.
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granted, i tip more when i get discount meals at my brother's restaurant... but... come on...
next you're going to complain about someone only leaving 20%...
HALF A JAPPA!
I'D HAVE TIPPA YA A FULL JAPPA!
so logically if the trend continues someone will only tip 20% and then look out america!
i actually don't have a huge issue with that scenario. its only a couple bucks. just saying what i'd do there...
how are your ice cubes sir? are they cold enough for your liking?