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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    pretty cool article. nice slideshow of top big east moments at the bottom too...

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc ... 7/1965187/

    Syracuse's Boeheim is bullish on 'Catholic 7' basketball

    Eric Prisbell, USA TODAY Sports3:40p.m. EST March 5, 2013
    Orange's longtime coach says Big East breakup was 'inevitable'


    Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim said that the new Big East conference will be among the nation's best
    The basketball schools are also expected to announce a television deal with the new Fox Sports 1 channel
    Xavier and Butler are also expected to join the league from the Atlantic-10

    Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim, who has been in the Big East since its inception in 1979, said that the new Big East basketball conference, when it begins competition in the fall, will be among the nation's preeminent basketball conferences.


    "I think it will be as good as any league," Boeheim told USA TODAY Sports on Tuesday. "I think it can be a top basketball league, I really do. They have the TV deal. Their fear, which is not going to happen, is that (football) schools break away from the NCAA and form some big deal. But I don't see that happening."

    The new league, which will keep the Big East name, will consist of the Catholic 7: Georgetown, Seton Hall, Marquette, Providence, DePaul, St. John's and Villanova. Xavier and Butler are also expected to join the league from the Atlantic-10. And the league could expand further, perhaps to include Creighton and/or Saint Louis, among other candidates.

    VIDEO: Boeheim's best moments with the media

    The basketball schools are also expected to announce a television deal with the new Fox Sports 1 channel today, USA TODAY Sports reported.

    "They will end up with a really good league," Boeheim said. "They'll have some money coming in, and looks like they have a TV contract. And they don't ever have to worry about football juggling them around again. That was always going to happen.

    "It was a miracle the Big East stayed together for so long. And football-basketball schools need to be together. And basketball-only schools need to be together. It [the breakup] was inevitable. It just took a long time because of Dave Gavitt and Mike Tranghese holding it together all those years."
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... ant-league

    1. How good is this league going to be?

    We tend to judge leagues by the quality of the brands at the top, and this league will have respected and established brands at the top. Georgetown, Marquette, Villanova, Butler and Creighton are all projected to make this month's Field of 68. Xavier has made the past seven NCAA tournaments, including four Sweet 16s in the past five seasons. Providence seems to be headed in the right direction under Ed Cooley. St. John's, DePaul and Seton Hall have some tradition. So there's no reason to think this league can't be one of the nation's best basketball leagues right from the start.

    2. Will it play other sports, too? Like soccer and baseball and stuff?

    Yes, which is worth mentioning because these schools are routinely called "basketball-only" schools, but this will not be a basketball-only league, and it shouldn't be called that, either. If anything, it should be called a "nonfootball" league because it's going to hold championships in most sports except football. So, yes, the conference will have soccer and baseball and stuff. But I don't really know anything about soccer and baseball and stuff at the collegiate level. So let's move on.

    3. Why isn't VCU considered a likely addition?

    The fact that VCU isn't a Catholic institution isn't a deal-breaker, but it is a disadvantage. Beyond that, it's clear the decision-makers are skeptical if VCU has true national appeal and staying power, meaning they probably think what's currently happening in Richmond has more to do with Shaka Smart than anything else. In other words, what happens if Smart leaves? Would VCU slip and then look like a bad addition? A string of successful coaching hires -- Jeff Capel and Anthony Grant preceded Smart and did well, you know? -- suggests VCU would probably find a new coach and be OK (even if former athletic director Norwood Teague is now at Minnesota). But I probably believe that more than the powers-that-be believe that. So VCU will likely remain on the outside looking in.

    4. So who are the so-called powers-that-be?

    Georgetown president John DeGioia has taken a lead role in recent months, but the league does plan to hire a commissioner. Former NCAA senior vice president Greg Shaheen makes a lot of sense for a lot of reasons, but his consulting work with other conferences could interfere. Other names to keep in mind include current NCAA vice president of men's basketball Dan Gavitt and West Coast Conference commissioner Jamie Zaninovich, the latter of whom has some East Coast ties from, among other things, his days as a senior associate athletic director at Princeton.

    5. And what about the leftovers? How bad of a spot are they in?

    The losers in all of this are the current Big East schools that play FBS football and care about basketball (like Connecticut and Cincinnati), the schools set to join them (Memphis, Temple, SMU, etc.), the Atlantic 10 and Missouri Valley Conference. Connecticut has lost everything it has ever known, Cincinnati has lost everything it has known recently, Memphis and Temple won't get to play in a league with Georgetown and Villanova, the A-10 will lose at least two and probably more key members, and the MVC will likely lose at least one and maybe more key members, too. Conference USA is basically irrelevant going forward. The A-10 and MVC will be discounted. But a yet-to-be-named league headlined by Connecticut, Cincinnati, Memphis and Temple should still be interesting. So I'm hesitant to dismiss that league completely, and I won't be surprised if it's actually better in men's basketball in some years than some of the so-called power leagues.
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  • The Ray Allen shot is epic and he really likes talking about it when I wrote this story in 2007:

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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    http://www.bigeast.org/News/tabid/435/A ... Teams.aspx

    PROVIDENCE, R.I. – Georgetown forward Otto Porter, Jr. was named unanimously to the All-BIG EAST First Team, the league announced. The conference’s head coaches choose the all-conference teams. The coaches are not permitted to vote for their own players. The league announced the All-BIG EAST First, Second and Third Teams in addition to the BIG EAST All-Rookie Team.

    The BIG EAST Player of the Year will come from the All-BIG EAST First Team. The conference will announce Player of the Year, BIG EAST Coach of the Year, BIG EAST Rookie of the Year and American Eagle Outfitters BIG EAST Scholar-Athlete of the Year on Tuesday, March 12. The announcement will be made on the first day of The BIG EAST Championship Presented by American Eagle Outfitters at Madison Square Garden. The other league individual awards will be announced Monday, March 11.

    In addition to Porter, Louisville placed two players on the first team, guard Russ Smith and center Gorgui Dieng. The other first team selections were Connecticut guard Shabazz Napier, Notre Dame forward Jack Cooley and Providence guard Bryce Cotton.

    Porter, a 6-8 sophomore, led the Hoyas to the BIG EAST regular-season crown and was the only unanimous selection. In league games, he was second in the BIG EAST in scoring with an 18.1 average, fifth in rebounding with a 7.3 mark and tied for third in steals with a 1.8 average. He made 44.1 percent from 3-point range, which ranked second in the league.

    Smith, a 6-0 junior, was second in the BIG EAST in overall scoring, averaging 17.9 points. He was third in steals with a 2.0 mark. Dieng, a 6-11 junior, averaged 10.3 points and 10.1 rebounds in all games. In BIG EAST play, he was the league rebounding champion with a 10.8 average and was second in blocked shots with an average of 2.8.

    Napier led Connecticut with a 17.1 points per game scoring average and was tied for fourth in the BIG EAST in steals at 2.0 and seventh in assists at 4.6. The 6-1 junior was third in the league with 68 3-point baskets made.

    Cooley averaged a double-double for Notre Dame. The 6-9 senior averaged 13.6 points and a league-leading 10.6 rebounds in all games. He was second in the BIG EAST in field goal percentage, making 58.2 percent.

    Cotton, a 6-1 junior, was the BIG EAST scoring champion in league games, averaging 18.3 points. The Providence guard edged Porter for the scoring title by four points. In all games, Cotton also was first in scoring with a 19.6 mark. His 88 baskets from beyond the arc also led the league.

    For the BIG EAST All-Rookie Team, the coaches included two players from St. John’s, forward JaKarr Sampson and center Chris Obekpa. Sampson was the league’s top freshman scorer, averaging 14.9 points per game in all games. Obekpa led the league in blocks with a 4.1 average. The others named to the team are: Omar Calhoun of Connecticut, D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera of Georgetown, Steven Adams of Pittsburgh and Ryan Arcidiacono of Villanova. Sampson and Arcidiacono were unanimous picks. The BIG EAST Rookie of the Year will come from the All-Rookie Team.


    ALL-BIG EAST FIRST TEAM
    Shabazz Napier, Connecticut, G, Jr., 6-1, 171, Roxbury, Mass.
    * Otto Porter, Jr., Georgetown, F, So., 6-8, 205, Sikeston, Mo.
    Gorgui Dieng, Louisville, C, Jr., 6-11, 245, Kebemer, Senegal
    Russ Smith, Louisville, G, Jr., 6-0, 165, Briarwood, N.Y.
    Jack Cooley, Notre Dame, F, Sr., 6-9, 246, Glenview, Ill.
    Bryce Cotton, Providence, G, Jr., 6-1, 165, Tucson, Ariz.

    ALL-BIG EAST SECOND TEAM
    Sean Kilpatrick, Cincinnati, G, Jr., 6-4, 221, White Plains, N.Y.
    Vander Blue, Marquette, G, Sr., 6-4, 200, Madison, Wisc.
    Jerian Grant, Notre Dame, G, Jr., 6-5, 202, Bowie, Md.
    Michael Carter-Williams, Syracuse, G, So., 6-6, 185, Hamilton, Mass.
    C.J. Fair, Syracuse, F, Jr., 6-8, 215, Baltimore, Md.

    ALL-BIG EAST THIRD TEAM
    Markel Starks, Georgetown, G, Jr., 6-2, 175, Accokeek, Md.
    Peyton Siva, Louisville, G, Sr., 6-0, 185, Seattle, Wash.
    Tray Woodall, Pittsburgh, G, Sr., 6-0, 190, Brooklyn, N.Y.
    Brandon Triche, Syracuse, G, Sr., 6-4,210, Jamesville, N.Y.
    JayVaughn Pinkston, Villanova, F, So., 6-6, 240, Brooklyn, N.Y.

    BIG EAST HONORABLE MENTION
    Davonte Gardner, Marquette, F, Jr., 6-8, 290, Suffolk, Va.
    Kadeem Batts, Providence, F, Jr., 6-9, 245, Powder Springs, Ga.
    JaKarr Sampson, St. John’s, F, Fr., 6-8, 204, Barberton, Ohio
    Fuquan Edwin, Seton Hall, F, Jr., G-F, 6-6, 205, Paterson, N.J.

    BIG EAST ALL-ROOKIE TEAM ^
    Omar Calhoun, Connecticut, G, Fr., 6-5, 195, Brooklyn, N.Y.
    D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera, Georgetown, G, Fr., 6-3, 227, Indianapolis, Ind.
    Steven Adams, Pittsburgh, C, Fr., 7-0, 250, Roturua, New Zealand
    Chris Obekpa, St. John’s, C, Fr., 6-9, 223, Makurdi, Nigeria
    * JaKarr Sampson, St. John’s, F, Fr., 6-8, 204, Barberton, Ohio
    * Ryan Arcidiacono, Villanova, G, Fr., 6-3, 195, Langhorne, Pa.

    *Denotes unanimous selection.
    ^Due to a tie in the voting, an additional position was named.
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    The Ray Allen shot is epic and he really likes talking about it when I wrote this story in 2007:

    http://web.sny.tv/news/article.jsp?ymd= ... 573&vkey=1
    Great article, xavier. I've heard about the game and always see the shot when they show highlights of great moments during tournament week, but never saw the game. Thankfully, ESPN Classic is showing it tomorrow. DVR is set for it while I'm in school.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    Newch91 wrote:
    http://www.bigeast.org/News/tabid/435/Article/242672/Porter-s-Unanimous-Selection-Headlines-All-BIG-EAST-Teams.aspx

    PROVIDENCE, R.I. – Georgetown forward Otto Porter, Jr. was named unanimously to the All-BIG EAST First Team, the league announced. The conference’s head coaches choose the all-conference teams. The coaches are not permitted to vote for their own players. The league announced the All-BIG EAST First, Second and Third Teams in addition to the BIG EAST All-Rookie Team.

    The BIG EAST Player of the Year will come from the All-BIG EAST First Team. The conference will announce Player of the Year, BIG EAST Coach of the Year, BIG EAST Rookie of the Year and American Eagle Outfitters BIG EAST Scholar-Athlete of the Year on Tuesday, March 12. The announcement will be made on the first day of The BIG EAST Championship Presented by American Eagle Outfitters at Madison Square Garden. The other league individual awards will be announced Monday, March 11.

    In addition to Porter, Louisville placed two players on the first team, guard Russ Smith and center Gorgui Dieng. The other first team selections were Connecticut guard Shabazz Napier, Notre Dame forward Jack Cooley and Providence guard Bryce Cotton.

    Porter, a 6-8 sophomore, led the Hoyas to the BIG EAST regular-season crown and was the only unanimous selection. In league games, he was second in the BIG EAST in scoring with an 18.1 average, fifth in rebounding with a 7.3 mark and tied for third in steals with a 1.8 average. He made 44.1 percent from 3-point range, which ranked second in the league.

    Smith, a 6-0 junior, was second in the BIG EAST in overall scoring, averaging 17.9 points. He was third in steals with a 2.0 mark. Dieng, a 6-11 junior, averaged 10.3 points and 10.1 rebounds in all games. In BIG EAST play, he was the league rebounding champion with a 10.8 average and was second in blocked shots with an average of 2.8.

    Napier led Connecticut with a 17.1 points per game scoring average and was tied for fourth in the BIG EAST in steals at 2.0 and seventh in assists at 4.6. The 6-1 junior was third in the league with 68 3-point baskets made.

    Cooley averaged a double-double for Notre Dame. The 6-9 senior averaged 13.6 points and a league-leading 10.6 rebounds in all games. He was second in the BIG EAST in field goal percentage, making 58.2 percent.

    Cotton, a 6-1 junior, was the BIG EAST scoring champion in league games, averaging 18.3 points. The Providence guard edged Porter for the scoring title by four points. In all games, Cotton also was first in scoring with a 19.6 mark. His 88 baskets from beyond the arc also led the league.

    For the BIG EAST All-Rookie Team, the coaches included two players from St. John’s, forward JaKarr Sampson and center Chris Obekpa. Sampson was the league’s top freshman scorer, averaging 14.9 points per game in all games. Obekpa led the league in blocks with a 4.1 average. The others named to the team are: Omar Calhoun of Connecticut, D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera of Georgetown, Steven Adams of Pittsburgh and Ryan Arcidiacono of Villanova. Sampson and Arcidiacono were unanimous picks. The BIG EAST Rookie of the Year will come from the All-Rookie Team.


    ALL-BIG EAST FIRST TEAM
    Shabazz Napier, Connecticut, G, Jr., 6-1, 171, Roxbury, Mass.
    * Otto Porter, Jr., Georgetown, F, So., 6-8, 205, Sikeston, Mo.
    Gorgui Dieng, Louisville, C, Jr., 6-11, 245, Kebemer, Senegal
    Russ Smith, Louisville, G, Jr., 6-0, 165, Briarwood, N.Y.
    Jack Cooley, Notre Dame, F, Sr., 6-9, 246, Glenview, Ill.
    Bryce Cotton, Providence, G, Jr., 6-1, 165, Tucson, Ariz.

    ALL-BIG EAST SECOND TEAM
    Sean Kilpatrick, Cincinnati, G, Jr., 6-4, 221, White Plains, N.Y.
    Vander Blue, Marquette, G, Sr., 6-4, 200, Madison, Wisc.
    Jerian Grant, Notre Dame, G, Jr., 6-5, 202, Bowie, Md.
    Michael Carter-Williams, Syracuse, G, So., 6-6, 185, Hamilton, Mass.
    C.J. Fair, Syracuse, F, Jr., 6-8, 215, Baltimore, Md.

    ALL-BIG EAST THIRD TEAM
    Markel Starks, Georgetown, G, Jr., 6-2, 175, Accokeek, Md.
    Peyton Siva, Louisville, G, Sr., 6-0, 185, Seattle, Wash.
    Tray Woodall, Pittsburgh, G, Sr., 6-0, 190, Brooklyn, N.Y.
    Brandon Triche, Syracuse, G, Sr., 6-4,210, Jamesville, N.Y.
    JayVaughn Pinkston, Villanova, F, So., 6-6, 240, Brooklyn, N.Y.

    BIG EAST HONORABLE MENTION
    Davonte Gardner, Marquette, F, Jr., 6-8, 290, Suffolk, Va.
    Kadeem Batts, Providence, F, Jr., 6-9, 245, Powder Springs, Ga.
    JaKarr Sampson, St. John’s, F, Fr., 6-8, 204, Barberton, Ohio
    Fuquan Edwin, Seton Hall, F, Jr., G-F, 6-6, 205, Paterson, N.J.

    BIG EAST ALL-ROOKIE TEAM ^
    Omar Calhoun, Connecticut, G, Fr., 6-5, 195, Brooklyn, N.Y.
    D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera, Georgetown, G, Fr., 6-3, 227, Indianapolis, Ind.
    Steven Adams, Pittsburgh, C, Fr., 7-0, 250, Roturua, New Zealand
    Chris Obekpa, St. John’s, C, Fr., 6-9, 223, Makurdi, Nigeria
    * JaKarr Sampson, St. John’s, F, Fr., 6-8, 204, Barberton, Ohio
    * Ryan Arcidiacono, Villanova, G, Fr., 6-3, 195, Langhorne, Pa.

    *Denotes unanimous selection.
    ^Due to a tie in the voting, an additional position was named.

    gotta think arch and sampson share big east rookie of the year honors since they were the only unanimous choices there...
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    I know I'm bias in saying this but I think Kevin Ollie is BE Coach of the Year. What he accomplished this season with everything he had to go through: no postseason, new recruits, a short contract at the beginning of the season, and still getting 20 wins this season. Would have been a fun team to watch in the tourney. He is going to bring us a lot of memories in the years to come. I have a good feeling about UConn next season.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    not a fan of that stupid fake sign under the basket. why put it there in the first place?
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  • pureocpureoc Posts: 2,383
    not a fan of that stupid fake sign under the basket. why put it there in the first place?

    Yeah, it's just weird.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,417
    the south florida game last night set college hoops back about 35 years. good god how is it possible for 2 teams to score under 40 each in regulation. and the south florida uniforms looked like pajamas.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    pjhawks wrote:
    the south florida game last night set college hoops back about 35 years. good god how is it possible for 2 teams to score under 40 each in regulation. and the south florida uniforms looked like pajamas.

    i will never understand the need for teams to constantly change their uniforms. well i do--money...but who's buying those god awful unis? i wish everything would just remain old school.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    thank god villanova didn't switch to these stupid ass uniforms.

    neon green for notre damn? pink and black for cinci? :shock:


    thank god these teams are leaving this conference :lol:
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  • pureocpureoc Posts: 2,383
    pjhawks wrote:
    the south florida game last night set college hoops back about 35 years. good god how is it possible for 2 teams to score under 40 each in regulation. and the south florida uniforms looked like pajamas.

    i will never understand the need for teams to constantly change their uniforms. well i do--money...but who's buying those god awful unis? i wish everything would just remain old school.

    I blame Nike and Oregon for the travesty that is these "new" school uniforms in college athletics. This garbage has no business in college sports.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    pureoc wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    the south florida game last night set college hoops back about 35 years. good god how is it possible for 2 teams to score under 40 each in regulation. and the south florida uniforms looked like pajamas.

    i will never understand the need for teams to constantly change their uniforms. well i do--money...but who's buying those god awful unis? i wish everything would just remain old school.

    I blame Nike and Oregon for the travesty that is these "new" school uniforms in college athletics. This garbage has no business in college sports.

    remember the vomit inducing uniforms of the mid to late 90's? it seems we're inching our way back towards that
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Those Cincinnati jerseys were awful.
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  • pureocpureoc Posts: 2,383
    Some great rivalries coming to an end today, syracuse pitt, nd marquette, would be fitting to get a final four of cuse gtown and nd louisville as those rivalries sadly are ending too.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,710
    Final fucking four bitches.

    Enjoy you shitty conference

    I'm lying, not having the big east is gonna blow.
  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,759
    Did i just see on ESPN's bottom-line, that Tulsa is gonna join the NEW Big East? Man, i HOPE NOT!!

    Oh yea................... it's nice that one REAL Big East team made the Final-4. Way to go 'Cuse.
  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    cutz wrote:
    Did i just see on ESPN's bottom-line, that Tulsa is gonna join the NEW Big East? Man, i HOPE NOT!!

    Oh yea................... it's nice that one REAL Big East team made the Final-4. Way to go 'Cuse.

    Nice of Marquette to show up! Jesus titty fucking christ! :evil:
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    cutz wrote:
    Did i just see on ESPN's bottom-line, that Tulsa is gonna join the NEW Big East? Man, i HOPE NOT!!

    Oh yea................... it's nice that one REAL Big East team made the Final-4. Way to go 'Cuse.
    It's not the Big East anymore. I don't know what they're going to call the new conference that isn't catholic schools.
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  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,759
    Newch91 wrote:
    cutz wrote:
    Did i just see on ESPN's bottom-line, that Tulsa is gonna join the NEW Big East? Man, i HOPE NOT!!

    Oh yea................... it's nice that one REAL Big East team made the Final-4. Way to go 'Cuse.
    It's not the Big East anymore. I don't know what they're going to call the new conference that isn't catholic schools.


    From what i heard on TV, they are still calling it The Big East. I think they payed the other schools to keep the rights to the name. I also think ther playing ther conference Tourney at MSG?
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    villanova vs georgetown tonight.

    so far so good for this new big east, i think. couple really good teams. a few disappointments. should have about 4 teams in the tourney. scoring is way up. not a bad start.



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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,417

    villanova vs georgetown tonight.

    so far so good for this new big east, i think. couple really good teams. a few disappointments. should have about 4 teams in the tourney. scoring is way up. not a bad start.



    Nova and Creighton and really good, the rest is fairly pedestrian. This league absolutely needs St. John's to make a huge leap in the next few years. Brad Stevens leaving was a disaster for the league.

    oh overall the A10 might be better this year and will be interesting to see which league ends up with more team in the tourney. Both will get at least 4 I think but 1 or both could get a 5th.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    pjhawks said:

    villanova vs georgetown tonight.

    so far so good for this new big east, i think. couple really good teams. a few disappointments. should have about 4 teams in the tourney. scoring is way up. not a bad start.



    Nova and Creighton and really good, the rest is fairly pedestrian. This league absolutely needs St. John's to make a huge leap in the next few years. Brad Stevens leaving was a disaster for the league.

    oh overall the A10 might be better this year and will be interesting to see which league ends up with more team in the tourney. Both will get at least 4 I think but 1 or both could get a 5th.
    well nova's a top 10 team. xavier and providence are pretty good. gtown's missing 2 of their best players. marquette and st johns are disappointing. i don't think butler has the talent right now, even if stevens was there.

    going in, we figured around 4 teams would be dancing. that's not bad for the new league, especially considering there's only 10 teams right now.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,417

    pjhawks said:

    villanova vs georgetown tonight.

    so far so good for this new big east, i think. couple really good teams. a few disappointments. should have about 4 teams in the tourney. scoring is way up. not a bad start.



    Nova and Creighton and really good, the rest is fairly pedestrian. This league absolutely needs St. John's to make a huge leap in the next few years. Brad Stevens leaving was a disaster for the league.

    oh overall the A10 might be better this year and will be interesting to see which league ends up with more team in the tourney. Both will get at least 4 I think but 1 or both could get a 5th.
    well nova's a top 10 team. xavier and providence are pretty good. gtown's missing 2 of their best players. marquette and st johns are disappointing. i don't think butler has the talent right now, even if stevens was there.

    going in, we figured around 4 teams would be dancing. that's not bad for the new league, especially considering there's only 10 teams right now.
    I think Nova and Creighton are probably better than anyone in the A10 although I think St. Louis is close. they are a bit underrated right now. Umass is ranked like 13th but I think they are actually overrated.

    RPI Numbers:
    By Conference Big East is currently 4th and A10 is currently 6th in the country.

    By Teams: Big East
    Nova - 4
    Creighton - 11
    Xavier - 37
    Providence - 42
    Georgetown - 72
    St. John's - 76
    Marquette - 86

    4 out 10 in Top 50, 7 out of 10 in Top 100

    Atlantic 10:
    Umass - 8
    St. Louis - 25
    George Washington - 31
    VCU - 32
    Richmond - 47
    Dayton - 64
    St. Joseph's - 69
    St. Bonaventure - 80
    La Salle - 82

    5 out of 13 in Top 50, 9 out of 13 in Top 100
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    edited January 2014
    Yeah when the Big East expands in a few years, definitely gotta poach St Louis and VCU. 10 teams is nice and cozy but they will need to add a couple better schools. But to have a team in the top 10 and 40% in top 50 rpi, that's not a bad start. as long as they're fairing better than the american conference, i'm relatively happy. haha


    http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/conference
    Non-Conference Overall
    Rank Conference W L Pct RPI Rank RPI
    1 Big 12 Conference 98 26 0.7903 0.5875 1 0.5982
    2 Big Ten Conference 120 31 0.7947 0.5823 2 0.5946
    3 Pacific 12 Conference 115 32 0.7823 0.5675 4 0.5812
    4 Big East Conference 92 31 0.7480 0.5709 3 0.5805
    5 Atlantic Coast Conference 136 53 0.7196 0.5619 5 0.5738
    6 Atlantic 10 Conference 123 54 0.7000 0.5531 6 0.5620
    7 Southeastern Conference 123 52 0.7029 0.5486 7 0.5601
    8 American Athletic Conference 87 34 0.7190 0.5379 8 0.5521
    9 West Coast Conference 71 40 0.6396 0.5306 9 0.5404
    10 Mountain West Conference 76 46 0.6230 0.5298 10 0.5350


    This game is a little too close for comfort right now...
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  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,759
    edited January 2014
    I'm not sure i want more teams added. I like that they play each other twice(home & away).

    They are playing each other twice?
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    cutz said:

    I'm not sure i want more teams added. I like that they play each other twice(home & away).

    They are playing each other twice?

    yeah i like that you play teams twice. can't wait till nova gets creighton again. but i think 12 would be the perfect number, if the next couple teams are good basketball schools. you'd still get to play most teams twice, and you improve the overall quality of the league. this way, when you get a couple disappointing teams, you don't have to sweat still getting 4-5 bids....


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  • cutz said:

    I'm not sure i want more teams added. I like that they play each other twice(home & away).

    They are playing each other twice?

    yeah i like that you play teams twice. can't wait till nova gets creighton again. but i think 12 would be the perfect number, if the next couple teams are good basketball schools. you'd still get to play most teams twice, and you improve the overall quality of the league. this way, when you get a couple disappointing teams, you don't have to sweat still getting 4-5 bids....




    Even though I'm a DePaul alum (we are fucking awful once again...no clue how Purnell still has a job), I am enjoying the new league. It was the right move for all of these non-football schools to form their own league.

    Is it official that they are adding 2 more teams next year? Wasn't it supposed to be Dayton and St. Louis?
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    No nothing is official. Just speculation for what might happen a few years down the road.
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