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    Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Newch91 wrote:

    a school in idaho in the big east...f the bcs.

    anwyay, the higher exit fee is key like i mentioned a few days ago. if schools like yours and wvu and louisville and rutgers sign off on it, the conference may survive. albeit, a bit weaker.
    Yeah, I remember you mentioning that.

    Dunk contest from UConn's First Night last night.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyjUe-GW ... ture=share
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,357
    from media day:

    Pre-season Media Poll
    1. Syracuse (6 first place votes)
    2. UConn (8)
    3. Louisville (2)
    4. Pittsburgh
    5. Marquette
    6. Cincinnati
    7. West Virginia
    8. Villanova
    9. Notre Dame
    10. Georgetown
    11. Rutgers
    12. St. John’s
    13. Seton Hall
    14. South Florida
    15. DePaul
    16. Providence


    2011-12 Preseason Coaches’ Poll
    1. UConn (7)
    1. Syracuse (5)
    3. Louisville (3)
    4. Pittsburgh
    5. Cincy
    6. Marquette
    7. WVU
    8. Villanova
    9. Notre Dame
    10. Georgetown
    11. Rutgers
    12. St. Johns
    13. Seton Hall
    14. USF
    15. Providence
    16. DePaul
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    Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    from media day:

    Pre-season Media Poll
    1. Syracuse (6 first place votes)
    2. UConn (8)
    3. Louisville (2)
    4. Pittsburgh
    5. Marquette
    6. Cincinnati
    7. West Virginia
    8. Villanova
    9. Notre Dame
    10. Georgetown
    11. Rutgers
    12. St. John’s
    13. Seton Hall
    14. South Florida
    15. DePaul
    16. Providence


    2011-12 Preseason Coaches’ Poll
    1. UConn (7)
    1. Syracuse (5)
    3. Louisville (3)
    4. Pittsburgh
    5. Cincy
    6. Marquette
    7. WVU
    8. Villanova
    9. Notre Dame
    10. Georgetown
    11. Rutgers
    12. St. Johns
    13. Seton Hall
    14. USF
    15. Providence
    16. DePaul
    The bottom 4 are always the same teams every year.
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    Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Looks like West Virginia might be headed out.
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    AyedavanitaAyedavanita Posts: 1,443
    Wait a min guys.... I love Duke and I didn't go there. Does that make me a fraud??? :(
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,357
    Newch91 wrote:
    Looks like West Virginia might be headed out.

    puke.

    go after memphis and temple now.
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    Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    So it looks like WVU and Louisville are Big 12 candidates.

    Fuck college football and the BCS.
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    Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    And West Virginia has gone to the Big 12.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,357
    Newch91 wrote:
    And West Virginia has gone to the Big 12.

    looks like louisville is staying. that is good at least.

    now houston, ucf, and boise state might be close with houston and ucf coming in for basketball too.


    i really think it makes a lot of sense to go after memphis and temple for all sports (if tu comes for all sports, nova would insist they move up to football if they expand to 14 teams). you'd have a built in rivalry with memphis and l'ville and temple/nova....that makes too much sense. it probably won't happen. :lol:

    presidents meetings in philly on tuesday...
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    Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Newch91 wrote:
    And West Virginia has gone to the Big 12.

    looks like louisville is staying. that is good at least.

    now houston, ucf, and boise state might be close with houston and ucf coming in for basketball too.


    i really think it makes a lot of sense to go after memphis and temple for all sports (if tu comes for all sports, nova would insist they move up to football if they expand to 14 teams). you'd have a built in rivalry with memphis and l'ville and temple/nova....that makes too much sense. it probably won't happen. :lol:

    presidents meetings in philly on tuesday...
    :lol::lol: I can't stop laughing at the thought of Houston and Boise State in the Big East...kind of like Dallas in the NFC East and Indy in the AFC South.

    Anything that makes too much sense won't happen. It's too easy not to happen.

    In Big East related news: Andre Drummond breaks nose and suffers mild concussion in practice today.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,357
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    xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,102
    regarding West Virginia, in recent years especially with the basketball team, they had a lot of guys from the NY-NJ area, mostly because of the lure of playing in MSG a few times a year. I'm curious if that still has that appeal when they're playing games in places like Lincoln, Nebraska, Ames, Iowa or Stillwater, Oklahoma.
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    cowboypjfancowboypjfan Posts: 2,453
    Oh boy....


    West Virginia files lawsuit against Big East claiming they should not be held to 27-month waiting period to exit for the Big 12

    West Virginia filed a civil lawsuit against the Big East on Monday in an attempt to exit the conference in 2012 to join the Big 12, squarely blaming commissioner John Marinatto for the instability of the conference.

    In the 14-page suit filed in Monongalia County Circuit Court in West Virginia, the university claims it should not be held to the 27-month waiting period required of all departing teams. West Virginia alleges, "The Big East Conference and its commissioner, through their actions, breached their contract to WVU and nullified and voided the bylaws."

    West Virginia West Virginia filed a civil lawsuit against the Big East in an attempt to exit the conference in 2012 and join the Big 12. In the suit, West Virginia places the blame on Big East commissioner John Marinatto for the instability of the conference. PDF

    The reason the Big East breached its contract? West Virginia alleges that nothing was done to protect the remaining six football playing schools once Pitt, Syracuse and TCU left. That created such instability, that the lawsuit alleges Cincinnati, Rutgers and UConn engaged in discussions with the ACC, SEC, Big 12 and Big Ten.

    West Virginia alleges Marinatto failed to take proactive measures to "maintain, let alone enhance the quality of competition in the league" and the school had no choice but to accept an invitation to the Big 12.

    "We are disappointed that West Virginia has adopted this strategy and cannot imagine why it believes it does not have to respect and honor the bylaws it agreed to as a member of the Big East," Marinatto said in a statement Monday. "Based on an initial review of the lawsuit, it is clear that the allegations and claims in it are false and inaccurate.

    "Certainly there is nothing in it that would justify WVU's not fulfilling its obligations. To put it simply, a contract is a contract."

    West Virginia also believes the Big East will lose its position as an automatic BCS-qualifying conference.

    West Virginia also alleges, "The denigration of the Big East Conference is a direct and proximate result of ineffective leadership and breach of fiduciary duties to the football schools by the Big East Conference and its commissioner."

    The school is asking for a court injunction to declare the current 27-month waiting period void or count the $2.5 million payment the conference already received from the school as a way to waive the waiting period. West Virginia also is seeking damages for the breach of contract.

    Marinatto has said West Virginia is not eligible to join the Big 12 until July 1, 2014.

    "Once we have reviewed the filing, we will explore all our legal options and will act vigorously to ensure that WVU lives up to all its obligations to our conference," Marinatto said. "In the meantime, this lawsuit will not interfere in any way with our ongoing efforts to strengthen and expand the Big East."

    WVU spokesman John Bolt declined to elaborate, saying "the lawsuit speaks for itself."

    The league has been adamant about holding Pitt, Syracuse and West Virginia to the waiting period.

    When the Big 12 announced it had accepted West Virginia as a member last week, both the conference and school said the Mountaineers would be full members in 2012.

    The lawsuit is the latest development in a flurry of conference realignment activity this fall. Syracuse and Pittsburgh withdrew from the Big East in September to join the Atlantic Coast Conference.

    TCU accepted an invitation to join the Big East in September but switched to the Big 12 in October and was not required to honor the 27-month notice requirement.

    "That's basically because they never started with the Big East," Big East spokesman Chuck Sullivan said of the Horned Frogs. "Because they had not formally joined the conference, which would have been July 1, 2012, they were subject only to the financial component."
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    Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Saw this on Facebook, from the Big East Conference's page:

    "BIG EAST men's basketball teams now a combined 19-0 this season with Cincinnati leading by 21 at halftime against Alabama State. St. John's, Louisville and Pittsburgh picked up wins earlier Sunday."
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    xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,102
    Newch91 wrote:
    Saw this on Facebook, from the Big East Conference's page:

    "BIG EAST men's basketball teams now a combined 19-0 this season with Cincinnati leading by 21 at halftime against Alabama State. St. John's, Louisville and Pittsburgh picked up wins earlier Sunday."

    I figure they remain that way through Monday. I see the following games as possible Big East losses:

    11-15 - Rutgers @ Miami (FL)
    11-17 - Arizona @ St. John's
    11-21 - Notre Dame @ Missouri
    11-21 - Georgetown vs. Kansas
    11-24 - Minnesota vs. DePaul
    11-30 - Notre Dame @ Gonzaga

    Plus there could be losses by Big East teams in the Maui and the preseason NIT.
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    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
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    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
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    Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Newch91 wrote:
    Saw this on Facebook, from the Big East Conference's page:

    "BIG EAST men's basketball teams now a combined 19-0 this season with Cincinnati leading by 21 at halftime against Alabama State. St. John's, Louisville and Pittsburgh picked up wins earlier Sunday."

    I figure they remain that way through Monday. I see the following games as possible Big East losses:

    11-15 - Rutgers @ Miami (FL)
    11-17 - Arizona @ St. John's
    11-21 - Notre Dame @ Missouri
    11-21 - Georgetown vs. Kansas
    11-24 - Minnesota vs. DePaul
    11-30 - Notre Dame @ Gonzaga

    Plus there could be losses by Big East teams in the Maui and the preseason NIT.
    Could points. I wonder if that Arizona/St. John's game will be on ESPN. Or the Georgetown/Kansas game.
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    xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,102
    Newch91 wrote:
    Newch91 wrote:
    Saw this on Facebook, from the Big East Conference's page:

    "BIG EAST men's basketball teams now a combined 19-0 this season with Cincinnati leading by 21 at halftime against Alabama State. St. John's, Louisville and Pittsburgh picked up wins earlier Sunday."

    I figure they remain that way through Monday. I see the following games as possible Big East losses:

    11-15 - Rutgers @ Miami (FL)
    11-17 - Arizona @ St. John's
    11-21 - Notre Dame @ Missouri
    11-21 - Georgetown vs. Kansas
    11-24 - Minnesota vs. DePaul
    11-30 - Notre Dame @ Gonzaga

    Plus there could be losses by Big East teams in the Maui and the preseason NIT.
    Could points. I wonder if that Arizona/St. John's game will be on ESPN. Or the Georgetown/Kansas game.

    I think they both will be. I seem to remember that some form of ESPN shows them.
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    Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
    Chicago 2007
    Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
    Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
    Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
    Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
    MSG 2022
    St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
    "I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
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    Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Newch91 wrote:
    I figure they remain that way through Monday. I see the following games as possible Big East losses:

    11-15 - Rutgers @ Miami (FL)
    11-17 - Arizona @ St. John's
    11-21 - Notre Dame @ Missouri
    11-21 - Georgetown vs. Kansas
    11-24 - Minnesota vs. DePaul
    11-30 - Notre Dame @ Gonzaga

    Plus there could be losses by Big East teams in the Maui and the preseason NIT.
    Could points. I wonder if that Arizona/St. John's game will be on ESPN. Or the Georgetown/Kansas game.

    I think they both will be. I seem to remember that some form of ESPN shows them.
    Oops. Made a typo. GOOD*. We can probably check on ESPN's site if they'll be on there.
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    Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Time for the Jeremy Lamb show.
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    Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Good bye Bernie Fine
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    xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,102
    a little bit of a rough week for the league. besides the Syracuse stuff, UCONN won then barely squeaked past Florida State, Villanova lost twice to St. Louis and Santa Clara, St. John's lost to Northeastern, Notre Dame loses its best player in Abromaitis, Marshall beating Cincinnati

    At least DePaul beat Arizona State and Texas Tech and there was that overtime thriller for Georgetown against Memphis.

    Since Nov. 13 when the Big East was unbeaten, here's what teams have done:

    Nov. 14 - 8-0 (27-0)
    Nov. 15 - 3-2 (30-2) Kent State beats W. Virginia, Miami beats Rutgers
    Nov. 16 - 2-1 (32-3) Long Beach State wins in Pittsburgh
    Nov. 17 - 4-1 (36-4) Arizona beats St. John's
    Nov. 18 - 4-1 (40-5) Texas A and M beats St. John's
    Nov. 19 - 3-2 (43-7) Presbyterian beats Cincinnati, Old Dominion beats South Florida
    Nov. 20 - 3-2 (46-9) Northwestern beats Seton Hall, Penn State beats South Florida
    Nov. 21 - 2-2 (48-11) Missouri routs Notre Dame, Kansas beats Georgetown
    Nov. 22 - 7-2 (56-13) Illinois State beats Rutgers, Georgia beats Notre Dame
    Nov. 23 - 3-1 (59-14) Richmond beats Rutgers
    Nov. 24 - 2-1 (61-15) Minnesota beats DePaul
    Nov. 25 - 4-4 (65-19) Central Florida beats UCONN, Marshall beats Cincinnati, St. Louis beats Villanova, Iowa
    State beats Providence
    Nov. 26 - 3-2 (68-21) Northeastern beats St. John's, Northern Iowa beats Providence
    Nov. 27 - 3-1 (71-22) Santa Clara beats Villanova
    Reading 2004
    Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
    Chicago 2007
    Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
    Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
    Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
    Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
    MSG 2022
    St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
    "I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
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    Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    My cousin describes Andre Drummond as a "unique one of a kind specimen who dominates more and more". The kid is an absolute beast and is fun to watch. Him and Ryan Boatright are exciting freshman to watch this year. Can't wait for Big East play to begin.
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,616
    Cuse! This could be a fun year. 2003 I was in Albany and that shit was bonkers when they won. I'm expecting much of the same this year. This team is good
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    Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Cuse! This could be a fun year. 2003 I was in Albany and that shit was bonkers when they won. I'm expecting much of the same this year. This team is good
    Going to be a fun team to watch. I might head up to the main UConn campus in Storrs for the College Gameday game on February 25th. Campus is going to be nuts that day. I hope the UConn-Syracuse rivalry continues when Syracuse leaves.
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    Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Who else is pumped for conference play??? :D

    This is when college ball gets great.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,357
    i got nova/marquette tix for xmas.

    hopefully these young cats show some improvement between now and then.
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    Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    That should be a fun game.

    Notre Dame beat Pitt tonight. Just another typical game in the Big East.

    I'm looking forward to seeing how UConn does against Big East teams. Thursday's game against Fairfield was getting ready to give me a heart attack. Had pretty good seats for that game.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,357
    i love seeing pitt lose
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    Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,756
    Newch91 wrote:
    Who else is pumped for conference play??? :D

    This is when college ball gets great.


    Watch out for my DePaul Blue Demons. 9-3.....we already have more wins than all of last season! We couldn't get any worse....we'll see how conference play goes.
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    Hoyas.
    Alright, alright, alright!
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